Album Rating: 2.0

I've listened to it around eight or nine times over the course of a few days. I like The Crusade a bit more than this, so that would be probably be a 2.5 for me.

Album Rating: 3.0

Can't say i would like the Crusade more than this. Just a different taste i guess.

Album Rating: 2.0

I like The Crusade much better than this, from a musical standpoint it was more interesting (in a sole comparison to only this album of course) and the moments that were good rocked harder than the moments that are good here. Trivium were never really supposed to be this kind of band imo; they were always more ambitious than other metalcore groups like All That Remains and Killswitch, this kind of streamlined hook driven shit isn't for them at all.

Album Rating: 2.0

band just kind of sucks in general

Album Rating: 2.0

Nah they have some really great moments in between all their other either bland or just plain horrible shit

Album Rating: 3.0

Fair enough Spirit, at the time i guess i was rating on the catchiNess of the albums.

@ TheFantasticDangler

When I heard the drum parts of "Shattering The Skies Above", I had high hopes from Nick as their new drummer. However, the drum track of this album was not just predictable, it was too generic. A nasty drum track would've at least made the album a bit more wild. But then again, it's Pop Metallish. When you're thinking about making something that's Pop Metal, a nasty drum track may leave them even more clueless than they are now.

Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off

I totally disagree with you D4. Nick just has great musicality, and I love his style. I find he knows when to be subdued, and when to have fun. He throws in random surprises like at the end of Forsake Not the Dream, and I love the beat in the chorus of Caustic.

Caustic was the album's best drum track, I have to admit, if you consider "Shattering The Skies Above" to not be in the album, but it still didn't have that feel to it. Look, I'm not really saying that he's bad. It's just that the drum tracks were a letdown from their previous albums. Think about "Kirisute Gomen" or "Pull Harder On The Strings Of Your Martyr" or many other songs where the drum parts of the songs actually stand out on the same level as the guitar tracks. The guitar parts at the end of "Forsake Not The Dream" totally hogs all the attention from the listener rather than the drum parts. That's the problem. The drums are "just there". They don't stand out. Travis could make the drums stand out. That's why I mentioned earlier on that Nick was a letdown.

Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off

Ahh, ic what your saying. Yes, Travis did have more memorable moments like on Kirisute and Pull Harder, and Nick hasn't rly contributed anything like that on this album. But, I still like Nick's style better. Travis was too simple at times for me.

"Travis was too simple at times for me."

At Shogun? Ah, yes. Whereas some were really kickass, but after you hear Down from the Sky and the drum parts of some other songs, it was clearly audible why Matt and Corey decided to continue without Travis.

Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off

At Shogun? Ah, yes. Whereas some were really kickass, but after you hear Down from the Sky and the drum parts of some other songs, it was clearly audible why Matt and Corey decided to continue without Travis.