"thy were also playing 500-1000 person venues max back then"
On that tour they were playing fairly large clubs. Still only like 2,000 - 3,000 but still...Scott Weiland and Bush can't sell out those same venues now. Hah after reading that I realize that isn't saying much.
"just because "most people" considered them screamo doesn't make them screamo"
Everyone calls trivium metalcore, despite not having any real attributes of metalcore. Breakdown =/= metalcore. But I guess your argument is that screaming and high pitched vocals =/= screamo, so whatever.

Album Rating: 4.0

"Now enter, Common Existence, an album deeply rooted into their hardcore/screamo roots "



Sounds like my older brothers thursday.

"you know I wasn't calling them screamo/hardcore necessarily, but rather what they grew up listening to"
Oh okay. Out of curiousity, what screamo bands were around 15-20 years ago? I can't say I'm a guru on the genre.

this album is awesome, I really like this guys voice.
good review by the way, really smooth and concise.This Message Edited On 02.22.09

Album Rating: 4.0

Out of curiousity, what screamo bands were around 15-20 years ago? I can't say I'm a guru on the genre.

"what does that have to do with anything (specifically the amount of years"
Because you said "what they grew up listening to", which would be roughly 15 or 20 years ago (beginning of their teenage years). You said it was deeply rooted in their hardcore/screamo roots. So that would mean that they "grew up listening to" screamo bands. I was just wondering what screamo bands they grew up on...and they grew up roughly 15 to 20 years ago. They are all about 30 years old.

Album Rating: 4.0

"what does that have to do with anything (specifically the amount of years"



Because you said "what they grew up listening to", which would be roughly 15 or 20 years ago (beginning of their teenage years). You said it was deeply rooted in their hardcore/screamo roots. So that would mean that they "grew up listening to" screamo bands. I was just wondering what screamo bands they grew up on...and they grew up roughly 15 to 20 years ago. They are all about 30 years old.

"If you really want to know, scour the internet for Thursday interviews, I'm not doing your dirty work just because you want to try to exploit what I said in my review."

I asked a pretty simple question dude...didn't know you were on your period. And yea, I wouldn't consider myself "growing up" during my 20's...and I said I was no expert on Screamo...just asked for some of the bands you were talking about.

And then you name Orchid, a band that formed same year as Thursday.

Now go get the sand out of your vag and don't get mad at me because you write statements that you can't factually back up in your own review.

So what screamo bands did they grow up listening to? Still haven't gotten the answer to that simple question. Gonna give me an answer or just more attitude? And why should I "scour the internet" when I'm asking YOU a question about YOUR review. Hack.
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Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

I've never actually heard 'screamo' used by anyone but people who don't listen to harsh vocals.

Album Rating: 4.0

Well if you don't consider that you are growing up in your 20s, you should probably have a reality check. As for Orchid, sure they started at the same time, but Orchid released "Chaos is Me" in 1999, two years before Thursday released their major release "Full Collapse."

[quote=http://www.altpress.com/features/206.htm]We both really loved what was going on on the West Coast in the early '90s, like Gravity Records stuff, really spazzy stuff. We also really loved the Ebullition style, mid-'90s, what they call the emo power-violence stuff. [/quote]

[quote=wikipedia]Gravity Records is an influential underground independent record label from San Diego. It was formed in 1991 by Matt Anderson, a member of the influential underground band Heroin. It has been central in developing and promoting the "San Diego sound" - an idiosyncratic form of emo and hardcore with very loose, chaotic musicianship and vocals. It is commonly associated with the first wave of screamo.[/quote]

here's the answer to the question you've been DYING to know

Album Rating: 4.0

I'm having a hard time getting into the rest of the cd besides tracks 1 and 2.

I do like the first song a lot. Haven't heard much else from the album yet though.

Album Rating: 4.0

I clearly just enjoy infuriating you guys.

Album Rating: 4.0

that was clever John. Do you at least like "Beyond the Visible Spectrum"?

Album Rating: 4.0

respectable answer

Album Rating: 4.5

Awesome review, I actually got this album after reading this, and it's growing on me pretty fast. All of the songs are pretty great, and at first I didn't like Love Has Led Us Astray, but that song has grown on me the most. Still, all the songs are pretty sweet in there own ways.

Ryan, out of interest are you going to be reviewing that Scott Pinkmountain album?

Album Rating: 4.0

yeah, but it's going to have to wait. next two weeks are the busiest weeks until finals, plus I am reviewing the 'Dark Was The Night' compilation, #12 Looks Like You (3/10), and this post-rock band. I'd say that's 4th on the chopping block, maybe 3rd.



Haste, I agree, Love Has Led Us Astray has grew on me too

Awesome, good luck with all that man :thumb:
Some of these songs have grown on me, others the exact opposite.

Album Rating: 3.5

album sucks, band is now dead