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204409
Emeritus
September 25th 2008


3998 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

See I love when they get thick and slow as in "I Was a Lover. " When they try to be upbeat, it's not that they are doing it because they feel it and are elevating the song, but it usually feels forced. For me the most important instrument(s) are the vocals. Listen to a song like "Young Liars." The arc of that song is made by the fact that the vocals are varied through. Their contours gradually ascend. They start off with little flatted blues note figures and ultimately open up into larger intervals and registers. It gives the song that x-factor. That is present on some songs on this album and woefully absent on others.



Also, I hope nobody takes this the wrong way, but I find this series of events highly ironic. Rock is the white man's take on blues is it not? And indie is a further whitening of the mix so to speak. It's practiced mostly by young white urbanites and makes a point of ironically invoking rock and roll of the past. Then a band that is mostly black, and stands out as being so completely beats these whiteys at their own game by writing not only more compelling forward-thinking versions of what they are doing, but by elevating it by using blues vocals tendencies, bringing us full circle to the original unjust thefting by whitey. It seems like unbelievable poetic justice. I also wouldn't attribute this to just TVotR as well. Look at Bad Brains. They were just so much better than all of the imitative hardcore bands of the early 80s and they did it by making the music a little "blacker" for lack of a better term (funk, reggae influences). Whitey is always messing up music.

Tyler
Emeritus
September 25th 2008


7927 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

still generic.


How? Name five bands that sound like them.



DFelon, I do agree that there aren't as many "whoa" moments with the harmonies and melodies but the album is consistently a lot better than anything they've ever done. I can always go back to "Mr. Grieves" if I want anyways. Man, that song rules. Shits and pisses and bleeds allover the original and it's a pretty good song originally.

Electric City
September 25th 2008


15756 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"Red Dress," "Dancing Choose," and even "Golden Age" are just not good songs.




add "halfway home" and you have my favorites off the album!

kmagnum1x
September 25th 2008


459 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

doesn't quite do it for me

204409
Emeritus
September 25th 2008


3998 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

EC, I just don't get you then. Or maybe you're the dude in this picture, a doucher and loving it: http://images.quickblogcast.com/95082-87795/amerapparel.jpg

IsItLuck?
Emeritus
September 25th 2008


4957 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Hey dfelon, you're in this flowchart:



http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3294/2888500826_cbd670c7ea_o.jpg

204409
Emeritus
September 25th 2008


3998 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

lol. im curious about the no, no route. if i haven't reviewed it, you referring to the

current album at hand, and not the previous album right?



also where do my morning jacket, alien ant farm, and xiu xiu fit into that flow chart?

i think it's needs a few more branches for "purposefully contrarian opinions to throw

people off of the obvious design off decision-tree"This

Message Edited On 09.25.08



last edit: yes, no, no, no how would rating me n/a if i reviewed it?This Message Edited On 09.25.08

IsItLuck?
Emeritus
September 25th 2008


4957 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Like when I reviewed Maps & Atlases 2nd album is a prime example



EDIT: i see what you mean. I'm saying that never happens. It usually falls under the mediocre column



My Morning Jacket, etc. fits into 'the is it mediocre?' This Message Edited On 09.25.08

204409
Emeritus
September 25th 2008


3998 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

I love My Morning Jacket.

IsItLuck?
Emeritus
September 25th 2008


4957 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

mediocre by my standards



edit: talk to me in the forums any further



DLZ is my favorite track on this album after further review even though Family Tree is pretty closeThis Message Edited On 09.25.08

Electric City
September 25th 2008


15756 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Hey dfelon, you're in this flowchart:



http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3294/2888500826_cbd670c7ea_o.jpg


beautiful. Dfel, I can somewhat understand your issues with "Red Dress" and "Dancing Choose." Those songs will probably be the ones I love the first couple times then get sick of. But I don't get your issue with "Golden Age." That song is gold.

204409
Emeritus
September 25th 2008


3998 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

It's a golden turd. Shiny and pretty but artificial. I don't like most of their overly upbeat tracks. They feel forced.

pixiesfanyo
September 25th 2008


1223 Comments


i'm glad i got name dropped in the flow chart.

this is a great album, but not as good as Cookie Mountain. better than Desperate Babes

cbmartinez
September 25th 2008


2525 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

flow chart is hilarious

cbmartinez
September 25th 2008


2525 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

no way, desperate youth is way better than this

Tyler
Emeritus
September 25th 2008


7927 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I think they're about equal for me.

pixiesfanyo
September 25th 2008


1223 Comments


Desperate Youth doesn't even sound like an album. It sounds like Young Lairs with a few extra tracks.

johnnyblaze
September 25th 2008


3405 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Nice review. I liked the comment on Return to Cookie Mtn., that album gets far more hate than it deserves. I can't wait for this.

Tyler
Emeritus
September 25th 2008


7927 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Well it kind of is but since Young Liars is awesome I don't mind.

P13
September 25th 2008


1327 Comments


I heard some of this today and it's pretty interesting.



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