Lil Wayne Da Drought 3
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Phantom
February 5th 2009


9010 Comments


Best selling doesn't make him exempt from being overrated.

BroRape
February 5th 2009


803 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

tupac is definitely overrated. biggie is where it's at, dude.

gaslightanthem
February 5th 2009


5208 Comments


yeah tupac really isn't as good as he is made out to be but w/e

joshuatree
Emeritus
February 5th 2009


3744 Comments


yeah what these guys said

illmitch
February 5th 2009


5511 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

cosign, tupac is overrated as fuck, he had like 15 albums and biggie murked him after only releasing one album in his actual lifetime

joshuatree
Emeritus
February 6th 2009


3744 Comments


tupac has had some good shit but yeah biggie and lot of others are leagues better

Phantom
February 6th 2009


9010 Comments


CALIFORNIA LOOOOOVE

joshuatree
Emeritus
February 6th 2009


3744 Comments


thats right i said fuckin leagues

Phantom
February 6th 2009


9010 Comments


Leagues

scyther
February 6th 2009


1606 Comments


Biggie had better flow, Pac had better lyrics. Biggie's lyrics weren't bad at all but they're much less substantial than Tupac's.

illmitch
February 6th 2009


5511 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

what makes lyrics substantial?

scyther
February 6th 2009


1606 Comments


Societal insight in my opinion. Biggie told a lot of stories about the streets much like Tupac, though Biggie's interpretation of positive thinking wasn't as clear, frequent, or detailed. Around that time, the realistic and relevant connection hip-hop had with the streets was a prominent reason for even performing rap in the first place, and while it is tossed around in modern times it is hardly as necessary, to digress. Biggie taught about and acknowledged the social happenings in the society he stemmed from, but Tupac's lyrics were far more eager to outline solutions for that society, which has always been and still is a problem for humanity. This Message Edited On 02.06.09

illmitch
February 6th 2009


5511 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

i don't think you have to make relevant social positions to have substantial lyrics, i think that's a main problem with criticism of hip hop. shit, i don't even think you need to have "positive thinking" to have substantial lyrics. i'd rather hear a hot line, interesting metaphors, and clever rhyme schemes than someone who isn't necessarily a better rapper rap about stuff that i might personally agree with.

scyther
February 6th 2009


1606 Comments


Positivity isn't necessary but its literally unhealthy to constantly encourage its opposite. I don't doubt the effectiveness of Biggie's depressing murder tales and other things like that, and Biggie does have happy songs, but the bad outweighs the good (morally) and in my opinion, a balance is more necessary than raw talent in one area. Especially in rap, since the lyrics are a form of spoken poetry, and the relativity that has to its demographic is a strong judgment factor.

I prefer Biggie's rapping style to Tupac's because he's more rhythmic and can really jive. But Pac will always be the more intellectually inclined rapper in my book.

illmitch
February 6th 2009


5511 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

see i just don't think that having socially progressive lyrics makes you automatically more intellectual. there's a blog i read that made a post about this.



http://www.hiphopmusic.com/archives/000673.html

joshuatree
Emeritus
February 6th 2009


3744 Comments


oh so scythers that guy

gaslightanthem
February 6th 2009


5208 Comments


lol

Phantom
February 6th 2009


9010 Comments


I just watched the video for California Love and Dre's verse is actually pretty awesome.

Oh, and on topic; fuck Lil' Wayne.This Message Edited On 02.06.09

gaslightanthem
February 6th 2009


5208 Comments


he's not amazing but he's not that bad

Phantom
February 6th 2009


9010 Comments


I don't like him



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