Doomtree
Doomtree


3.5
great

Review

by Phantom USER (19 Reviews)
August 22nd, 2009 | 29 replies


Release Date: 2008 | Tracklist

Review Summary: Absolutely Fucking Nothing But Doomtree

There must be something about the cold, snowy winters of Minnesota that seems to have an inspiring, creative effect on its residents. This is because Minnesota is proving to be a breeding ground for promising upcoming, underground hip-hop talent. After his fantastic third album earlier this year, P.O.S. is definitely the most notable export; and some old school friends are coming along for the ride as well, in the form of the Doomtree collective, a group of emcees, DJs and beat makers.

The collective’s second collaborative release Doomtree consists of single and group performances by emcess P.O.S., Sims, Cecil Otter, Mike Mictlan and Dessa with the beats and scratches provided by Lazerbeak, Paper Tiger and Turbo Nemesis and MK Larada. The number of different members and their own unique styles and influences create a melting pot of variety as contrasting as the summer and winter Minnesota weather, producing an album that has something for fans of all types of hip-hop. There are the bangers (“Game Over”, “Kid Gloves”), the slower, more down beat (“The Wren”, “Sadie Hawkins”) and the more mainstream (“Drumsticks”).

The album's variety comes from both the emcees lyrics and delivery and the variety of beats provided by the four producers. Lazerbeak and MK Larada provide the more percussive and subdued beats for the album while Paper Tiger and Turbo Nemesis provide the big beats and samples and occasional scratching (leaving Dessa to handle the big breasts). As well as being accomplished at providing varied beats the four producers also succeed in mixing them well with the vocals, producing a balanced listening experience with an added bass end.

Whilst having a differing delivery style, the emcees all share a similar viewpoint lyrically. Themes run from love to lost friends, politics, personal issues and general restlessness with modern society and beliefs all the while shying away from the more gung ho west and east coast themes such as money, bling, women and guns. This lyrical may stem from the fact that a number of the collective were initially hesitant to pursue hip hop, having originally been in punk and rock bands before and tired of hearing the aforementioned east/west coast themes.

Those familiar with P.O.S.’ work will know what to expect from the other emcees but will, however, find something more to enjoy in the added variation of Mike Mictlan’s faster, upbeat delivery (most notable in “Game Over”), Cecil Otter’s weary observations or Dessa’s self deprecating, philosophical and often metaphorical content as well as the added bonus of her singing ability which brings an extra element to a number of the tracks. In fact, Dessa features on the highlight track of the album, “The Wren”. The subdued percussive and horns lead track, featuring performances from Dessa and Sims, centres on love and belief themes, is brought extra impact by the contrast between male and female rapping, both of which range from medium pace to double paced multi syllabic rhymes, as well as Dessa’s cryptic, sung chorus/vocal hook:

Quote:
“I found your pale faced, blue lipped god beneath the kitchen table. Starving and eating paper. Showed me what you wrote and what you’d asked. Love, nothing can live on prayers like that. Love.”
Those looking for a more mainstream track as an introduction to the group should investigate the lead single “Drumsticks”. The track features a strong beat and verses from P.O.S. (including a Simpsons reference) and displays another side to the collective and also works well as a transition for those who are used to hearing P.O.S.’ solo work .

The only possible downside to Doomtree for some would be its length. With twenty-one tracks the album does tend to lose its steam (and quite possibly the listener’s attention) during the second half. There are still some strong tracks to be found in “Kid Gloves” and “Pop Gun War”. On the other hand, the upside of the amount of tracks is that it provides listeners with a good introduction to the different styles of all the members of Doomtree and may lead them on to discover the individual works of the collective even if they don’t come back to the group album.

Ultimately, Doomtree works well as introduction the various members of Doomtree (all of whom belong to the Rhymesayers label) as well as providing similar music for fans of P.O.S. The album will also appeal to both fans of a slightly more cerebral hip-hop experience and those who just want music to party to. However, the album as a whole may be too long for some to sit through in one go and will work better as a dip in album or for shuffling at parties with something to please everyone, including the casual listener.

Recommended Tracks
Drumsticks
The Wren
Dots & Dashes
Sadie Hawkins
Game Over



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Comments:Add a Comment 
Phantom
August 22nd 2009


9010 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

this will probably go unnoticed which sucks cause its pretty solid =(

Roach
August 22nd 2009


2148 Comments


this is so hxc they should change the name to Doombrie!brie!brie!

Phantom
August 22nd 2009


9010 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

no u should

Phantom
August 22nd 2009


9010 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

The Doomtree False Hopes? They should stop naming all their releases False Hopes, it's confusing.



But ya, do eet. Veteran is sick.

Phantom
August 22nd 2009


9010 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Fair enough, but this isn't the False Hopes album. The tracks with Dessa on are probably the best ones though.



C'mon guys, even if you don't like hip hop gimme some feedback on the review.





illmitch
August 22nd 2009


5511 Comments


this was a good review. i hate hip hop like this though.

poopty
August 22nd 2009


319 Comments


ya man hip hop like this u kno dat shit gon be bad

illmitch
August 22nd 2009


5511 Comments


uh i don't like anything on rhymesayers

Phantom
August 22nd 2009


9010 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Not even P.O.S.? And why?

illmitch
August 22nd 2009


5511 Comments


especially not POS. it just comes across to me as hip hop for people who don't like hip hop, and is more of an opposition to mainstream hip hop than some new creative force. nothing about them really appeals to me.

Phantom
August 22nd 2009


9010 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Oh right, well it obviously appeals to me but I also like more mainstream Hip Hop as well, it just depends what mood I'm in. I can see where you're coming from but I don't think it's made specifically for people who don't like Hip Hop but due to its punk/rock influences it does appeal to some non fans. Kind of a double edged sword I suppose. But this could also serve as an introduction to other hip hop for some, which is a good thing.

scyther
August 22nd 2009


1606 Comments


I don't think this kind of rap is aggressive enough to be considered an opposition. A lot of people who listen to rap like this do obviously hate Lil Wayne but when you take ignorant fans out of the picture, music gets better.

illmitch
August 22nd 2009


5511 Comments


yeah definitely. i understand its appeal but it isn't really for me. i can be kinda picky with my tastes - i like older NY stuff, but not new east coast stuff, and i like a lot of southern rap. them serving as an introduction to hip hop is undoubtedly a good thing though.

Phantom
August 22nd 2009


9010 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Like Scyther said there will be some who hate mainstream Hip Hop ( I don't really like Lil Wayne though so that's a bad example for me to use) and will only listen to this because of it, but I think the group are just presenting an alternative option rather than an opposition. But no one's making you like them so it's all good.

Phantom
August 22nd 2009


9010 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

='(



I thought you got confuzzled

Blindsided
August 23rd 2009


1871 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Appreciate this review as well, well written and concise. pos.

Phantom
August 23rd 2009


9010 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

No probs. Good to see that some people are interested.

kingsoby1
Emeritus
August 23rd 2009


4970 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

i'm overall disappointed with the doomtree crew. POS blows them all out of the water, dessa is okay, and the production annoys me.



their shows are so overblown here in minneapolis... lots of pomp surrounding a pretty okay set.

jingledeath
August 23rd 2009


7100 Comments


I like P.O.S so I guess I'll give the recommended tracks a listen

Phantom
August 23rd 2009


9010 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Listen to Drumsticks and Dots and Dashes then because they have POS on them and also give The Wren a go.



I do agree that POS is better than the rest of Doomtree but I still find them enjoyable so



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