Like Moths to Flames   When We Don't Exist
2.9
good
Release Date: 2011
Tracklist

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3.0 goodThandall | March 20th 17

A fun, angry album. Most releases of the time and genre don't balance heaviness and accessibility
as well as LMTF do here. It drags at times, but should still be considered a staple release for
early 2010's metalcore. Fave tracks: No Hope, You Won't Be Missed

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2.5 averageRibwich | October 2nd 16

There's a couple decently hard-hitting breakdowns, a couple catchy choruses. But mostly it's pretty typical stuff.

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2.0 poorDrKok2Puss | February 28th 13

If you're looking for a 30 minute breakdown, you've found it. Everything here is as generic as generic can be, some catchy choruses are the only thing keeping this album from a 1.

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0.0 ChrisRoetter | July 11th 12

This wasn't the funnest thing to make, very difficult process indeed.

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0.0 | May 3rd 12

Forced cleans and repetitive song structures are abound in this disjointed release, which shows no signs of progression from the bands first EP. The drumming and harsh vocals are the main strengths of this album, with powerful screams and some uncommon fills here and there, but these are sadly drowned out in the monotony.

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3.0 goodotto1595 | March 27th 12

I think they deserve a little more rating because of their musical organization. I see a lot of potential on their music, they have some organization on their songs, that's what separates from shitty metalcore bands. They can grow bigger, for sure

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1.5 very poorchicagowillbeours | December 22nd 11

The epitome of everything that makes metalcore generic.

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2.5 averageDoABarrelRoll | December 13th 11

Admittedly they have a great vocalist, however they need to break away from the usual Rise-core problem. There's no real song structure that doesn't feel forced, every breakdown feels like it doesn't belong, every melodic chorus feels like it's only there because they wanted "something" to be catchy. All in all it's not the worst band on Rise, in fact some can say they have potential, good luck getting them to be creative with that though.

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2.0 poorMark James Irwin | December 1st 11

Most of the songs have the same tempo, and for a few seconds during some parts, I thought I was listening to Memphis May Fire. I guess the only thing they got going for them is that they're catchier than Emmure.

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3.5 greatDirEnMotionless | May 7th 17
1.5 very poorLavaus | April 16th 17
4.0 excellentKevin Bastien | April 4th 17
3.0 goodTylerBlink | March 15th 17
3.0 goodAstroFanGreatComment | March 8th 17
2.5 averageSp00kyGr00ves | February 20th 17
3.0 goodcorycantrell | February 19th 17
2.5 averageGutteralworms | February 3rd 17
5.0 classicTheemoflamingo666 | January 4th 17
3.0 goodTim Hurst | December 6th 16
2.5 averagetellah | December 1st 16
3.5 greatluckdaboss | November 8th 16
2.0 poorcalmrose | October 25th 16
4.5 superbLoganVT | September 27th 16
1.5 very poorJordan Hageman | September 1st 16
3.5 greatMemecore | August 29th 16
2.5 averageShamus248 | August 7th 16
2.5 averageJacob Hollows | July 31st 16
1.0 awfulTheSleepys | June 28th 16
3.0 goodImaginaryMonster4699 | June 4th 16
3.5 greatDalton DuBois | May 14th 16
4.0 excellentBr00talon | May 12th 16
2.5 averageJacobMGreenia76 | April 17th 16
3.0 goodWordOfCarl | March 14th 16
3.0 goodsixsouls | March 11th 16
4.0 excellentMelaciour | March 5th 16
3.0 goodEOsta | February 29th 16
2.0 poorMythoBeanz69 | February 17th 16
2.0 poor8genre | January 5th 16
2.5 averageohtheurgency | December 9th 15
1.5 very poorleviathanbehemothxul | December 3rd 15
4.5 superbewawrzynski16 | November 13th 15
2.5 averageIchigoK | November 8th 15
1.0 awfulNext | November 8th 15
1.0 awfulitsallgood05 | October 31st 15
1.5 very poorWhy dont you check sodom or foad | October 31st 15
2.5 averageweltfremder | October 28th 15
3.0 goodolivercuster | October 27th 15
3.0 goodKyleAndrews12 | October 26th 15
3.0 goodBleedIntoTheAbyss | October 25th 15
5.0 classicXesalLestat | October 15th 15
1.5 very pooryuen | October 12th 15
2.0 poorfuccboi extraordinaire | October 12th 15
2.5 averageDalton DuBois | October 12th 15
4.0 excellentTheDjentyRanga | August 31st 15
1.5 very poorIn The Aeroplane Over The Sea was a mistake - Thom Yorke | August 28th 15
3.0 goodDatBeefPudding | August 22nd 15
3.0 goodHeavyMetal25 | August 20th 15
2.0 poorcompromisedreality | August 17th 15
2.0 poorHeroIsTea | June 3rd 15
3.5 greatweflyatnight | May 6th 15
3.0 goodelry2k | April 27th 15
2.5 averagestevedamanifest | April 9th 15
3.0 goodTomoyaSenpai | April 9th 15
3.5 greatPeterSch | March 27th 15
1.5 very poorSputnikSweetheart | March 13th 15
3.5 greatMelodicIntensity | February 19th 15
3.0 gooddjc208 | January 29th 15
2.5 averagedamn near spilled my semen | January 28th 15
3.5 greatInAndOfItSelf | November 6th 14
4.0 excellentupyard | October 24th 14
3.0 goodGSMC96 | October 4th 14
3.5 greatDeathbeds | September 3rd 14
3.0 goodBrandon Needles | September 2nd 14
4.0 excellentmikejulian222 | August 28th 14
3.0 goodRawwrrzz | August 19th 14
3.5 greatBDoms17 | July 27th 14
4.0 excellentAckimbro | July 17th 14
4.5 superbwwba | July 12th 14
3.0 goodbetray | July 1st 14
3.0 goodHavoren94 | June 17th 14
3.0 goodJerameAlive | May 26th 14
2.5 averagewowyouresohxc | May 22nd 14
3.0 goodENDHIMSLOW | May 13th 14
3.0 goodTJM1992 | May 7th 14
4.0 excellentYeeWassup | April 18th 14
3.5 greatthefallen66 | April 17th 14
3.5 greatusayinwat | April 6th 14
4.0 excellenteskimothunder | March 30th 14
2.0 poorqiminong | March 18th 14
3.0 goodTaylor Williams | March 17th 14
3.0 goodvMusicaLity | March 14th 14
3.0 goodsiruleus | March 11th 14
4.0 excellentWesCH1 | February 27th 14
4.0 excellentreversethefallen | February 26th 14
4.0 excellentTurdDonut | February 20th 14
3.5 greatAkagami | February 19th 14
3.5 greatlilsteve17 | January 23rd 14
3.0 goodJaywarwick | January 13th 14
2.5 averagefillawrant | January 11th 14
2.5 averageDevanicus | January 1st 14
2.0 poorMatthis | December 8th 13
4.0 excellentC0unterparts | December 1st 13
3.0 goodCaptainMunch | November 10th 13
3.5 greatwillzor | November 3rd 13
3.0 goodxMaLigNancy | October 26th 13
3.0 goodDischi | October 23rd 13
2.0 poorellagos | October 22nd 13
2.0 poorcollision35 | October 22nd 13
1.0 awfulbiffyspoink | September 18th 13
4.0 excellentTyler Cook | September 17th 13
2.0 poorbreadstick | September 13th 13
2.5 averageMayhemLord3148 | September 6th 13
2.0 pooradr | September 5th 13
2.5 averagetitanslayer | August 3rd 13
2.5 averageaugustburnsshred | July 26th 13
1.5 very poorTooLateToGoBack | July 18th 13
2.0 poorzmol | July 15th 13
2.5 averageBrett Tharp STAFF | July 13th 13
4.5 superbVictim20 | July 9th 13
2.5 averagepurezephyr | July 3rd 13
3.0 goodproukillqc | June 29th 13
3.0 goodclovewilliam | June 11th 13
3.5 greatdswhite85 | June 11th 13
3.0 goodGenesis1992 | May 28th 13
4.0 excellentloganswope | April 16th 13
3.0 goodmatty9014 | April 14th 13
2.5 averageRareBreedRoss | April 9th 13
2.0 poorrudeldenken | April 7th 13
3.5 greatPeriLTAA | April 5th 13
2.5 averageOmeggia | March 23rd 13
3.5 greatRavensfan9 | March 21st 13
2.5 averageelbaliem | March 21st 13
4.5 superbDerek521 | March 21st 13
2.5 averageAlexd93 | March 7th 13
2.0 poorAlejandro1993 | March 4th 13
3.0 good ^_^ | February 14th 13
4.0 excellentDirtBagDan | February 12th 13
2.5 averageRenderTheVoid | January 18th 13
3.5 greatTheWorstOfThem0613 | January 9th 13
1.5 very poorannotationsdying | January 9th 13
3.0 goodgiraffesareepic88 | January 6th 13
3.5 greatDamon12197 | December 21st 12
3.0 goodKenboSlice | December 17th 12
3.0 goodBlackTempest | December 14th 12
4.0 excellentHalzy31 | December 13th 12
2.5 averageZoneOut | December 11th 12
1.5 very poorStreams | December 11th 12
2.5 averagemerpmerp | December 10th 12
3.0 goodstevedietrich | December 7th 12
2.5 averageroemilca | December 6th 12
3.0 goodNagasakiBomber | December 5th 12
3.0 goodCody11095 | December 5th 12
3.0 goodAntigen | December 3rd 12
3.5 greatliekmothstoflames | November 30th 12
2.5 averageJbone6140 | November 27th 12
3.0 goodburningones92 | November 19th 12
2.5 averageZikana | November 15th 12
1.5 very poorapokolypz | November 10th 12
2.5 averageDDCloser | November 9th 12
2.5 averagelucasjcockcroft | November 4th 12
4.5 superbstalinrules | November 3rd 12
2.5 averageCaleb Wuethrich | October 30th 12
1.5 very poorDarthHideous1 | October 27th 12
4.5 superbsquidgyismybitch | October 27th 12
5.0 classiconlyhuman | October 27th 12
3.5 greatkameron0811 | October 24th 12
3.5 greatkizmang | October 18th 12
2.5 averageKronzo | October 17th 12
4.5 superbzachleonard97 | October 16th 12
2.5 averageTheMetalLifer | October 9th 12
3.5 greatDevon Benn | October 2nd 12
3.5 greatthechodewarrior | September 27th 12
2.5 averagedawidson245 | September 23rd 12
3.0 goodHardlyHardcore | September 21st 12
3.0 goodDakoda Jones | September 20th 12
3.0 goodConnorTheHero | August 20th 12
2.0 poortrilliamdean | August 19th 12
1.5 very poorJackSparrow | July 26th 12
3.5 greatWernington | July 22nd 12
3.0 goodInsecureGorilla | July 21st 12
3.0 goodsacc87 | July 20th 12
4.5 superbxcrimmyx | July 18th 12
3.5 greatVanitySeason | July 17th 12
3.5 greatblegod | July 14th 12
2.0 poormicahbgaj | July 8th 12
2.5 averageMisguidedYouth | June 27th 12
5.0 classicSalem Thornton | June 26th 12
4.0 excellentRory Amoy | June 22nd 12
3.0 goodkadimashikari | June 18th 12
3.0 goodTylerOnFire | June 10th 12
2.5 averageRafael Moreira | June 5th 12
3.5 greatMajinStar | June 4th 12
2.5 averagePleasantBusiness | May 28th 12
3.0 goodKosherSoldier | May 27th 12
3.0 goodpo0ty | May 25th 12
3.5 greatDerSic | May 21st 12
4.5 superbLucastrue | May 13th 12
3.0 goodChris Jones | May 5th 12
3.0 goodChuck Haller | May 4th 12
4.0 excellentbreakyourfacecore | May 4th 12
3.5 greatPeriL | May 4th 12
2.0 poorAlex Newton | April 25th 12
3.0 goodTyler Christian Pifer | April 19th 12
3.0 goodIleftyspankedU | April 15th 12
2.5 averagemasochistic | April 14th 12
3.5 greatWiresInDm | April 8th 12
3.5 greatSeraph | April 7th 12
2.5 averageMyself2me | April 6th 12
3.0 goodEmceeKain | April 3rd 12
3.0 goodTheLycan | March 30th 12
4.0 excellentthedougler | March 22nd 12
3.0 goodbetterdrinkmyownpiss | March 22nd 12
3.5 greatcoolarrow | March 21st 12
2.0 poorKSK1 | March 12th 12
3.5 greatvinceG | March 9th 12
2.0 poorI Am The Sputnikker | March 3rd 12
4.0 excellentfirearrow501 | February 28th 12
3.5 greatSilas Barkley | February 28th 12
3.5 greatJordan Wylie | February 24th 12
2.0 poorNikkolae | February 12th 12
2.5 averagepatman1001 | February 12th 12
4.0 excellentmetalcore981 | February 11th 12
2.5 averagesimonpettersen | January 29th 12
4.0 excellentNaenia | January 17th 12
1.5 very poorAndrew K. | January 10th 12
1.5 very poorChristian Doboe | January 8th 12
5.0 classicxxwingsofdespairxx | December 27th 11
3.0 goodDimitri1033 | December 23rd 11
2.5 averageDevin Earl | December 18th 11
2.5 averageBenJamino | December 10th 11
3.5 greatAnthony R. Tremblay | December 8th 11
3.5 greatMichaelKamps | December 2nd 11
2.5 averageRobotJesus | December 1st 11
2.5 averageABlandLife | December 1st 11
2.0 poorUnknown Amongst Sputnik | December 1st 11
3.0 goodDieDead | November 30th 11
3.0 goodGhostK | November 30th 11
2.5 averageiGuter | November 23rd 11
3.5 greatma251 | November 19th 11
2.5 averagezombiMessiah | November 19th 11
2.5 averageMasonxmace237 | November 19th 11
2.5 averageForevermore | November 18th 11
3.5 greatwillafrant | November 16th 11
4.0 excellentbennyola09 | November 12th 11
1.0 awfulxChetSteadmanx | November 11th 11
3.0 goodOurNumbers | November 10th 11
2.5 averageDeathcar | November 10th 11
3.0 goodpromiseswept | November 9th 11
3.0 goodjackalope11 | November 8th 11
3.0 goodloseit13 | November 8th 11
2.0 poorChris Higgins | November 8th 11
2.0 poorDropdeadWHA | November 8th 11
2.0 poorendtell | November 8th 11
3.5 greattresm87 | November 8th 11
2.0 poorRyan Thompson | November 7th 11
3.0 goodJustin King | November 7th 11
2.0 poorDevastator | November 7th 11
1.5 very poorDan Schultz | November 7th 11
2.5 averageShen | November 7th 11
2.5 averageRyan Lizotte | November 7th 11

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