Deftones
White Pony


4.0
excellent

Review

by Ian USER (106 Reviews)
June 21st, 2006 | 13 replies


Release Date: 2000 | Tracklist


One album that I've been consistently recommended by people to check out for a long time now is the Deftones album "White Pony". I was reluctant to however after checking a few of the bands songs out from before off of "Minerva". I did eventually buy "White Pony" because of "Change (In The House of Flies)", a song I've loved ever since hearing it on a Dragon Ball Z movie B-). The 'word' on this was that it separated the Deftones from the rest of the nu-metal pack. Essentially purging themselves of that tag. I see it a different way however. While the song writing here is high above that of the normal nu-metal band, or any regular band of that matter, "White Pony" still shares many similarities of a nu-metal band. The guitar is tuned low, the riffs vary somewhat, and there is a user of both singing and screaming. "Elite" seems like older Mudvayne, but without an interesting baseline that actually stands out (it does have amazing vocal work though, again, reminiscent of Mudvayne).

The main point I'm trying to reach here is that even though "White Pony" is hyped beyond measure, it's nothing new. It's indeed a great record and I highly recommend it, but those who are coming in expecting something mind-blowing are going to be disappointed. Songs such as "Teenager" and "Change (In The House of Flies)" do break out of the nu-metal tagging, but "Back To School" and "Digital Bath" only work against what people have to say about "White Pony", What needs to be touched on here has nothing to do with whatever genre the group goes in, it's how enjoyable the album is and it's pretty damn good. It’s no surprise that "Change (In The House of Flies)" is a major player here. The song is absolutely beautiful and it's Chino's singing that makes it so pleasing as well as the somber guitar riff. One of the more interesting things on "White Pony" is Manyard James Keenan's guest appearance on here. Along with the Deftones, he co-wrote "Passenger" and his presence is definitely felt. The song is the second longest of the whole record coming in at six-minutes and even though I have an incredible disliking of Tool I still find this the best overall song. Chino and Manyard's shared vocals really make for an exciting combo by taking turns in the early parts. "Passenger" eventually fades out, but not before the last minutes are dominated by a piano and some slight vocalizations. As mentioned, "White Pony" is incredibly overrated, but that does not mean it isn't a fantastically written album and a joyous experience. It definitely should be remembered twenty-five years from now as an excellent album, not something that changed, or affected the music industry.

Pros:

+Supreme song writing
+Chino's vocals
+Easy to get into
+Guest appearance by Manyard James Keenan of Tool on "Passenger"
+Not a bad song

Cons:

-Where's the bass?
-Hideously overrated (not to be considered an actual con)

Recommended Tracks:

"Passenger"
"Change (In The House of Flies)"
"Pink Maggit"
"Feiticeira"
"Digital Bath"



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pixiesfanyo
June 22nd 2006


1223 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

It's not really that "hideously" overrated.

They made a nu-metal album that while retaining aspects of the original genre, branched out into it's own individual sounds and really helped create an album that was taken seriously in a genre that wasn't.

It's not "a super original" album. But I don't think I see many people regarding it that way, I see them regarding it as the crowning moment of the nu-metal movement. Which it is.

Iluvatar
Staff Reviewer
June 22nd 2006


16089 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

^^ 123
It was a solid review nonetheless. Shorter reviews suit you better I think as well; you used to kinda go off on some long-winded bits occasionally.

wikuk
June 22nd 2006


1110 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

Very nice review. but it's a shame you didn't talk about Knife Party

Storm In A Teacup
June 22nd 2006


13228 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Pixies: When I say drastically overrated I'm mostly referring to magazines.
Iluvatar: Thanks, I'm always trying different stuff and I really can't find my niche still, but maybe this is it. I didn't do short reviews before because I thought people wouldn't accept them.

rata
June 22nd 2006


14 Comments


i was never really into Deftones, but i must say that this album is worth as a must-have record...

i dunno bout that elite sounded like an old mudvayne record though, because of all the tracks in White Pony, Elite is the only track in there that sounds like their first record which is "Adrenaline".....This Message Edited On 06.22.06

andy0
December 18th 2006


118 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

the album isnt overrated at all, im the only person that i know that rants about the album while the rest of my friends talk about metallica or triviumThis Message Edited On 12.18.06

Sepstrup
December 18th 2006


1564 Comments


And your group of friends is representative for the entire music world... This does get heralded as a classic fairly often.

godLike
December 18th 2006


126 Comments


I love "Digital Bath", it's the only song I remember from this.
Besides "Drive Far Away" my favourite Deftones song.

andy0
December 19th 2006


118 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

well not just my friends..... i mean look around, emo is the new trend so the majority of 'rock' fans are be going on about how great fall out boy is or how cute my chemical romance are, and linkin parks debut came out in the same year as white pony which overshadowded most albums that year, so i would say its an underated classic.This Message Edited On 12.19.06

Neoteric
March 4th 2007


3243 Comments


You are dumb.

antihippy
April 12th 2007


696 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

i still don't get the mudvayne reference. they might be in the same genre, but deftones adds more depth, variety, emotions and atmosphere. plus chino sings alot better.

YouGotLucky
June 8th 2011


946 Comments


I know this thread's been dead for years.

But, I can't help but comment on one thing about this review. You made it sound like digital bath somehow resembles back to school which couldn't be further from the truth.

what do you mean it only works against what people have to say about the album? Cause if you're implying that Digital Bath is a nu-metal type song then you're wrong.

Activista anti-MTV
December 10th 2011


3150 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Dead Thread is the name of our sputband. It's just me so far

Had to rate this album. Def. nostalgic



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