Trash Talk
119


2.0
poor

Review

by XingKing USER (12 Reviews)
October 10th, 2012 | 19 replies | 2,132 views


Release Date: 2012 | Tracklist

Review Summary: A blind man told me it's better to burn out than to fade away.

7 of 9 thought this review was well written

Having 6 releases since their inception in 2005, Trash Talk is sure to raise some eyebrows concerning the actual quality of their material. Starting out as a mere Ceremony wannabe, subsequent releases found the band evolving towards a less aggressive sound with more focus on energy, at the loss of quality. Trash Talks recent signing to Odd Future Records has left some fans worried and for good reason. Their most recent offering 119 finds them struggling with an identity crisis.

Quick feedback and a count in begin opener track, "Eat the Cycle" , before you are hit with what could be assumed to be the usual Trash Talk affair with vocalist Lee Spielman closing the track with "everybody's got to eat" . While they have seemingly returned to their more aggressive roots after the more punk sounding Awake EP, it is apparent something is off. Lacking a professional behind the monitor, the album is entirely self-produced, and it shows. Previous offerings Awake and Eyes & Nines found the band with crisp production, and while it may have been a bit too overproduced for the style, it didn't cause quite the problems that the weaker production of 119 has. You will find the album has awful muddy tones, strange speaker placement and volume of the vocals, excessive double tracking, and just comes together to form a general wall of noise. 119 is off to a poor start.

It is quite obvious that vocalist Lee Spielman is not his usual self and he really doesn't sound up to the task. You will find many of his vocal lines incredibly strained and double tracked to hell to make up for his lack of punch. There is an odd use of reverb that lifts him and backing bassist/vocalist Spencer Pollard strangely in the mix and is rather distracting. Lyrically, Spielman doesn't touch on any new ground that hasn't been heard in punk before. He occasionally finds some interesting lyrics such as "You don't wanna see the things I've seen, I'm surrounded by liars and thieves and they're just like me" from "Reasons" and he screams "Can't eat, can't drink. My head is spinning. My stomach feasts on itself, how ***ing fitting." from first single "F.E.B.N." with strong conviction. Garrett Stevenson's guitar work has lost much of its bite with the weaker production and you will often find him recycling riffs from their earlier records. Pollard's bass and drummer Sam Bosson fair slightly better than the guitar and vocals. Pollard has the dirtiest and heaviest tone on any Trash Talk release yet and has become quite a commanding vocalist. Bosson has never been one to write home about, so he fills his spot on the drums quite perfectly without any disappointment.

While half of the tracks don't even top the minute and a half mark, you will find yourself often questioning how such short tracks could feel so long. The answer is simple. The band does absolutely nothing to differentiate themselves from any number of generic hardcore bands by having absolutely bland instrumentation. Trash Talk has never been a remarkable band, but each album had it's share of memorable moments whether it be the chorus to "Explode" , the slow build up of "Revelation" , or telling the listener how pure ***ing evil they are. You'd find yourself coming back to those tracks for those few instances of brilliance. The strongest tracks here hardly find themselves competing with the weakest tracks found on earlier releases, with the exception of "Thanks, but No Thanks" , "Bad Habits" and heavy closer "Dogman" .

Eyes & Nines showed Trash Talk meddling the waters with a more doom influenced track, "Hash Wednesday" , and 119 finds them revisiting that to a degree, with mixed results. "Blossom & Burn" , the longest track on the album clocking in at a whopping 2:31, is certainly the slowest song and also features rapping from Hodgy Beats and Tyler, the Creater of Odd Future fame. While the rapping might feel slightly out of place, both MCs voices surprisingly don't. An interesting collaboration that probably seemed like a better idea in theory than it was in execution, due to irredeemably poor lyrics, horribly cheesy instrumentation and an absolutely laughable vocal delivery beginning with "Eenie meenie miney mo, got a ***ing problem". Second longest track and closer, "Dogman" , is the other sludgy track here and is arguably one of the best tracks on the album. Featuring guitar work more akin to their self titled era and aggressive vocals, the song ends the album on an actual high note with a vicious vocal performance from Pollard.

Overall, 119 finds the band struggling with their sound yet again and it likely has something to do with the recent signing to Odd Future Records. Whether an attempt to capture hip hop fans and become the next big hardcore act or maybe a band dying, most of the tracks show absolutely no potential and find the band actually regressing. With no lasting value, it's hard to determine where Trash Talk will go from here. At the rate they typically release material, we will only have to wait a year or two to see if this band truly is dead.



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Comments:Add a Comment 
Rev
October 10th 2012



9382 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

great review man



rating is correct

XingKing
October 10th 2012



10040 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

I'm glad someone else thinks so. Every review of this album out there is calling this their best effort and I am just shitting myself over how backwards that is.

DreOko
October 10th 2012



4 Comments


Really? It's mostly gotten either a 6/10 or 7/10 which means "meh", nothing special. I reviewed it that way too.

XingKing
October 10th 2012



10040 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

If you are an idiot who follows the current age of thinking where a 7 is the equivalent of bad, maybe. In the real world, a 6 stands for fair and a 7 stands for good.

StarlessAnd
October 10th 2012



443 Comments


yea rly band sucks

Atari
Contributing Reviewer
October 10th 2012



19463 Comments


Prolly won't check this out since you gave it a 2, but great second review man. (pos'd)

Digging: The Who - Tommy

DreOko
October 10th 2012



4 Comments


I use 7 to mean it has some decent tracks but could be better, and give reasons about the production not fitting the style, how they no longer rely on simple and fast style. They tried too hard here.

XingKing
October 10th 2012



10040 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Definitely. I really feel like they were trying to say "Hey OF fans, we're cool too!".

XingKing
October 10th 2012



10040 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

And are you posting your review up here?

EyesWideShut
October 10th 2012



3098 Comments


these guys have been meh since Plagues.. Walking Disease..

signing with OF.. fucking idiots.

XingKing
October 10th 2012



10040 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

The moment I heard TT signed with those OF idiots, I was just anticipating a fucking disaster. Hopefully these songs will translate better live the same way Ceremony's new material did.

DreOko
October 10th 2012



4 Comments


I completely agree with you XingKing, they got caught up in the excitement of OF that it overshadowed their talents. My review is actually on Absolutepunk.net . I was aiming to give it a 69%, but we have this funny individual scoring system that doesn't guarantee a slight % shift so I left it at 70. I do think mine could be read as positive, but I tried to explain in the replies anyway:

http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=2915892


XingKing
October 11th 2012



10040 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

^ That's an awesome review man. Color me impressed. Our reviews are eerily similar too.

Melanin
October 11th 2012



20 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

That OF song is god-awful.

XingKing
October 11th 2012



10040 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

It was obvious it was gonna happen when they kept performing that one "kill people, burn churches, fuck school"(?) song together. I fear we are going to have to suffer this awful collab for a long time to come.

My original review trashed that song so hard, but I felt that I was inserting too much of my own opinion so I cut it.

XingKing
October 11th 2012



10040 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Blossom & Burn wishes it was our generations Bring the Noise.

Spluger
November 17th 2012



1119 Comments


Good review dude. When it comes to Trash Talk I either hear people talking about how fucking amazing they are or how fucking bad they are. Not sure if they're really worth checking out.

Digging: Ceremony (USA-CA) - Violence Violence

XingKing
November 17th 2012



10040 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Check out Plagues and Walking Disease.

XingKing
December 16th 2012



10040 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Ghost negs on all of my reviews. I love 'em!



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