Joan of Arc
Flowers


2.5
average

Review

by Cam EMERITUS
June 9th, 2009 | 21 replies | 7,104 views


Release Date: 2009 | Tracklist

Review Summary: band should stop already

Flowers is a weird album. On one hand, it’s completely terrible: it’s overly ambitious, pretentious, and ridiculous, often delving into experiments that are way over the band’s collective head. Joan of Arc---a Chicagoan band known for being led by Tim Kinsella and for incorporating electronica influences into their brand of mopey indie-rock---take some welcome chances here, giving their take on psychedelia, sound collages, and, most notably, the New Weird America movement. The results, however, tend to be unfortunately derivative and terrible: “Flowers” is an overblown and tired Sung Tongs- or Visiter-copycat, while “Fasting”, “Table of the Laments”, and “Fable of the Elements” are simply art for art’s sake: no substance, no point. Each is directionless, ‘experimental’ filler, and their inclusion is a mystery: the album’s plenty long enough and satisfying enough without them.

On another hand, Flowers is a big deal: it’s finally a move away from the mundane rut---a rut filled with tired and unremarkable indie pop---that Joan of Arc has found themselves in for the past few years. This rut was undoubtedly caused by the band’s relentless prolificacy: Flowers is the band’s twelfth album in as many years. Some of Flowers does recall their past albums, but these songs surprisingly tend to be standouts: “Explain Yourself” and “Fogbow” are excellent revision pieces, bringing to mind the band’s exceptional debut. But much of Flowers is decidedly unlike much of anything Joan of Arc’s ever tried before. This is both a blessing and a curse: while any change from that tired normality is appreciated, it’s disappointing that so much of this is mediocre, that so much of this imitative, that so much of this is overblown, and etc. In that sense, Flowers is no different than the past eight or so middle-of-the-road albums the band’s released: it’s still mostly sucks. At least we only have to wait another year to listen to the band’s next half-hearted attempt.



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joshuatree
Emeritus
June 9th 2009



3743 Comments


quick review, album's disappointing

gaslightanthem
June 9th 2009



5209 Comments


band are ok but i can't listen to them too often, the experimental electronic influenced tracks they've done in the past don't do much for me

i guess how memory works is probably the best album i've heard from them

NortherlyNanook
June 9th 2009



1285 Comments


my hopes for this weren't too high, but i definitely wouldn't have minded if it was any good.

Tits McGee
June 9th 2009



1876 Comments


not gonna listen because Kinsella is getting kind of weak

Aaron
June 9th 2009



651 Comments


It's hard to assess artists that release everything. I mean, the concept has its merits, you get access to all their music and get to pick what you listen to, but you loose the idea of the album and the coherance [ahem, Merzbow]. I'll still check this out, but sounds like I'll be unimpressed.

Iamthe Nightstars
June 9th 2009



2114 Comments


Mike is way better than Tim

joshuatree
Emeritus
June 9th 2009



3743 Comments


123

Mikesn
Emeritus
June 9th 2009



3709 Comments


The results, however, tend to be unfortunately derivative and terrible:
Basically

DownTilUnderground
June 9th 2009



23 Comments


Analphabetapolothology makes it okay.

StreetlightRock
Emeritus
June 10th 2009



3752 Comments


Damn good short review. Joan Of Arc have never been anything more than OK.

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xNintendoCorex
June 10th 2009



1272 Comments


good review, straight to the point!

Aaron
June 10th 2009



651 Comments


That it's a little bit shit?

xNintendoCorex
June 10th 2009



1272 Comments


they just churn out way too much material, for the last few records every good song theyve written has been overshadowed by 3 duds.

Aaron
June 10th 2009



651 Comments


What's wrong with releasing everything though? I mean, I'd rather listen to a band with a back-catalogue of 200 tracks that are mixed, rather than a band that has two a back-catalogue of 24 tracks that are all good. It's more interesting.

masterofcum
June 10th 2009



428 Comments


i thought with boo human they were back on track...

but this just bloooooooooooooooows

himslashher
June 11th 2009



64 Comments


It's really sad of the amount of people dissing this album. This review sounded like bag of Pitchfork rehashes. Completely inaccurate. Open your mind. This album is amazing.

masterofcum
June 11th 2009



428 Comments


not everything a kinsella does is amazing

gaslightanthem
June 11th 2009



5209 Comments


It's really sad of the amount of people dissing this album. This review sounded like bag of Pitchfork rehashes. Completely inaccurate. Open your mind. This album is amazing.


whoa ppl have a different taste to u maybe they should all open their minds


joshuatree
Emeritus
June 12th 2009



3743 Comments


It's really sad of the amount of people dissing this album. This review sounded like bag of Pitchfork rehashes. Completely inaccurate. Open your mind. This album is amazing.

lol

Essence
June 17th 2009



3561 Comments


love your summaries, well written as well



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