Hoobastank
For(N)ever


2.0
poor

Review

by project86fan USER (10 Reviews)
February 3rd, 2009 | 19 replies | 8,773 views


Release Date: 2009 | Tracklist

Review Summary: "I held out some hope that they might recapture the magic of their debut with hits such as "Running Away" and "Crawling In The Dark." Instead, they continued their Moby-Dick like quest for their White Whale, another incarnation of "The Reason."

1 of 3 thought this review was well written

Yea, it's another Hoobastank album. Nope, you're not excited either? I remember being really excited upon the release of The Reason thinking the band was going to progress from their major label debut. The Reason had quite a few good songs such as "Out Of Contol" that made the cd worth the money even though it contained the terrible duo of "The Reason" and "Disappear". I looked forward to the release of Every Man For Himself thinking they'd get that pop-ballad nonsense behind them and go back to rocking. Instead, I got a big mess--the rock wasn't very good "Inside of You," and the ballads were exceedingly bland: see "If I Were You" or "If Only" for proof. However, Every Man For Himself aged well, "The First Of Me" is arguably the band's best song, and their are several other worthy songs. Now, upon the release of their fourth major-label album, I held out some hope that they might recapture the magic of their debut with hits such as "Running Away" and "Crawling In The Dark." Instead, they continued their Moby-Dick like quest for their White Whale, another incarnation of "The Reason."

For(N)ever (don't get me started on how lame a title that is) kicks off with "My Turn" which serves as a passable slab of generic radio-ready rock. However, it does nothing to match the likes of "Crawling In The Dark" or even "Born To Lead" in terms of good debut rock singles. "I Don't Think I Love You" is the first of many mid-tempo songs where we find Doug bitterly singing about some generic failed relationship. After this, we find "So Close, So Far" which is, sorry to overuse the word, but you'd have to listen to this album to see how accurate it is, another generic pop ballad. I was so bored by the music that I didn't bother trying to care about the vapid lyrics.

Hoobastank reach their high point of For(n)ever (which really isn't much more than a molehill), with the bitter rocker "All About You." The lyrics are still pretty insipid, with lines like,

"But its not all about you, all about you, the more you speak the less I care about you, you, you, you."

but at least the music gives a jolt to the tired listener. "The Letter" follows with the only emotional song here that connects with the listener--the tale of a husband discovering a damning letter from another man is cliche, yet Doug puts his heart into it, and for one fleeting moment, I can buy into the rage he expresses throughout this album.

For(N)ever is an album about break-up, heartache, and general dispair. That said, "You're The One" is totally out of place. After listening to almost half an hour of woe is me non-sense, the sweet sappy lyrics of You're The One are jarring. As simple and tepid a ballad as Hoobastank has ever written, "You're The One" is pleasant but fleeting and ultimately disposable pop-balladry. However, it presents their best shot at making some sort of dent at pop radio with this album. This song just screams, "The Reason Pt. 3"

The oddness in the lyrics continues: next up is the angry cry for liberation that is "Who The Hell Am I?" followed by a plea to a lover to come back on "You Need To Be Here." At this point, I was totally lost trying to figure out what Doug was getting across. Finally, the album ends after an angry kiss goodbye with "Gone Gone Gone." This song works musically, but once again, the terrible lyrics such as, "By the time you hear this song, I'll be gone gone gone." just ruin things. Overall, this album is just a vengeful screed against some lady who offended Doug, with entirely out-of-place moments of sacchrine-sweet wannabe "The Reason" pop balladry. It's fair to say that should Hoobastank make a fifth album, I won't be rushing out to buy it.

Recommended (Only Mildly):

All About You
The Letter
You're The One



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BallsToTheWall
February 3rd 2009



44164 Comments


So I actually decided not to see this band live the other day. 30 dollars for a washed up never has been great abnd would have been the worst purchase of my life. 10 or 15 dollars i would have went to commit a felony but album art reminds me of the eyar 1999 or 1998, those early American Pie days. Gopod review.

Willie
Moderator
February 3rd 2009



15774 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

You seem to dislike The Reason, but that was my favorite one. The edgier songs had more balls than anything on their self-titled album, and the ballads were a little less generic.

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rasputin
February 3rd 2009



14504 Comments


For(N)ever is easily one of the worst album titles I've (N)ever seen.

TricksterGRex
February 3rd 2009



2087 Comments


That's the Hoobastankiest joke I've ever seen.

Yazz_Flute
February 3rd 2009



18735 Comments


The edgier songs had more balls than anything on their self-titled album, and the ballads were a little less generic.


idk Pieces is a pretty h4rdc0r3

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rasputin
February 3rd 2009



14504 Comments


That's the Hoobastankiest joke I've ever seen.

So much win.

Yazz_Flute
February 3rd 2009



18735 Comments


That's the Hoobastankiest joke I've ever seen.


I love you.

project86fan
February 4th 2009



26 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Williefisterbut--I have a review of the Reason up. I like most of it, but "The Reason" and "Disappear" are so bad that they cloud my view of the whole album. "Just One", "Out Of Control", and "Same Direction" are all good stuff.

"Pieces" and "Crawling In The Dark" both own anything off "The Reason" however.

Douchebag
February 4th 2009



3624 Comments


the album 'art' is laughably bad.

ConorMichaelJoseph
February 4th 2009



1870 Comments


Crappy clichéd mainstream butt-rock at its worst, at least their older material was somewhat tolerable.

CushMG15
February 4th 2009



1802 Comments


I almost downloaded this the other day to see what they'd become. I enjoyed their debut, but got turned off by everything I heard off of The Reason. Glad to see I didn't waste my time on this.

Thor
February 4th 2009



10158 Comments


That is the funniest album art I've seen in a while

and yeah that hoobastankiest joke ruled

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jrowa001
February 4th 2009



8749 Comments


this must be bad if a fan of project 86 doesnt like it considering they suck pretty bad too

AmericnZero02
February 4th 2009



3305 Comments


I checked out a few of the tracks on this record and it seems like these guys just refuse to experiment or change at all. And what happened to their drummer? look like he's already going through a mid-life crisis.

ABlandLife
February 5th 2009



141 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

this is a pretty forgetful album
EMFH was a much much better album than this one, disappointingThis Message Edited On 02.05.09

k182hy
February 24th 2009



21 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I liked this album.This Message Edited On 02.24.09

PuddleSwimmer
May 8th 2009



1457 Comments


I REALLY hoped this would be more like their debut.

If I listened to this I'd probably be more frustrated than a sniper scoping in a wax body museum.

Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
March 21st 2011



48551 Comments


Who
Bastank

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Mike08
April 19th 2012



587 Comments


For(N)ever (don't get me started on how lame a title that is)

123. Good review



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