Crown the Empire vocalist leaves band

2017-01-08 by I hate everything | 48 Comments
American metalcore band Crown the Empire have just released a statement detailing vocalist Dave Escamilla's departure from the band. It appears his exit was not voluntary, nor forced, but it is certain he is no longer a part of the band, and there is some bad blood between them.

The post also details that the band are not the primary writers of their material, and that instead a "friend" of the band does most of the writing for them. You can read the statement here:

https://www.facebook.com/Crowntheempire/posts/1343214325710089

You can read Dave's statement here, which is more transparent on the matters concerning his exit and their use of a ghost writer:

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1715922815099849&id=10000 0464424655

Tagged: Crown the Empire

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Shamus248
January 8th 2017
238 Comments


Here's a prediction: they release a new album next year as a quartet behind only Andy. all clean vocals, no screams and it's 10 times lighter than Retrograde and while I'll still root for it as a fan, it could very well be weaker than ever their Fallout and Resistance days.

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50iL
January 8th 2017
3589 Comments


They have a ghost writer?! Smd, posers

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William21
January 8th 2017
135 Comments


So basically, they'll do on their next album what I See Stars did

sempiturtle
January 8th 2017
753 Comments


RIP.

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sempiturtle
January 8th 2017
753 Comments


https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1715922815099849&id=100000464424655 Here's the singer's statement btw, if you want to add it to the article.

Satellite
January 8th 2017
24217 Comments


pretty sure all these bands use the same ghostwriter

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Shamus248
January 8th 2017
238 Comments


yeah, even when the songwriting gets 10 times better lol

Snide
January 8th 2017
7027 Comments


As much as I love CTE's music, their passive aggressive commentary towards David really pissed me off and made me lose a lot of respect for them.
David's response really took the high ground, and I'm avidly looking forward to David's solo work.

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MikeHunt
January 8th 2017
1155 Comments


Who are these turkeys never heard of em

Satellite
January 8th 2017
24217 Comments


another ensemble of verb the noun hackery

Satellite
January 8th 2017
24217 Comments


"yeah, even when the songwriting gets 10 times better lol"

not remotely sure what your point is but mine was that the songwriting is basically dogshit across the board when it comes to this tripe.

also, and this is the important part, it was a joke.

Gameofmetal
Staff Reviewer
January 8th 2017
9890 Comments


Damn that guy was the better of the two singers. Last album was garbage and it felt like he was barely even on the thing anyway

Shamus248
January 9th 2017
238 Comments


"not remotely sure what your point is but mine was that the songwriting is basically dogshit across the board when it comes to this tripe.

also, and this is the important part, it was a joke."

my point is that yeah, all the core bands probably use the same writers. I was agreeing with you.


Satellite
January 9th 2017
24217 Comments


oh i'm an idiot my bad

Fieryfenderz
January 9th 2017
1802 Comments


"We've never heard or seen Dave make anything, artistically or musically in the 4 years he was in our band, so we're just as excited to see what he does make as you are."

Goddamn. Brutal.

PatientlyDead
January 9th 2017
45 Comments


Damn, the fans' comments on their post are fucking brutal! No one seems to eve want to support the band after this. lol.


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GregoriusV
January 9th 2017
19 Comments


RIP Crown The Empire :'-(

I'll go put 'The Phoenix Reborn' on repeat and cry in my pillow

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Spec
January 9th 2017
34260 Comments


Wow these guys sound like assholes. Never liked the band anyways but seriously hoping the dude makes mad $$$ from his solo stuff to spite them.

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MuhNamesTyler
January 9th 2017
6058 Comments


Genericore drama

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SweeneyTodd
January 9th 2017
1174 Comments


Thanks sempiturtle

I have no respect for these guys anymore, they don't write their own stuff, and they claim it as their own. They also shit on Dave upon his departure. They couldn't have been more childish about it. Dave has a great voice, and he can shred, I sincerely hope the best for him, and the worst for Crown.

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LoLifant
January 9th 2017
1179 Comments


damn now I feel bad for giving their latest a 4.5...it's really good but I hate it when bands don't write their own stuff. Well at least it seems the writer is a good friend and not just some random dude.

Ebola
January 9th 2017
2429 Comments


"not voluntary nor forced"
???

botb
January 9th 2017
10930 Comments


lol rise didn't even let them in the studio to record their own album. As if this kind of music was hard to write. End this bullshit ghostwriter boy band core ffs

kaparoni
January 9th 2017
273 Comments


It's a shame but honestly only Fallout was deserving an attention IMO .

Snide
January 9th 2017
7027 Comments


Yeah I'm gonna be eagerly following Dave's work outside the band.

McTime50
January 9th 2017
82 Comments


someone just changed the summary on the band's page lol

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Spec
January 9th 2017
34260 Comments



"not voluntary nor forced"
???

agreed

zaruyache
January 9th 2017
16632 Comments


according to a 2014 interview they admitted a ghost writer (old non-touring member) and their one guitarist did most of the writing, so I suppose this shouldn't come as much of a surprise to uber fans.

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SweeneyTodd
January 9th 2017
1174 Comments


"damn now I feel bad for giving their latest a 4.5...it's really good but I hate it when bands don't write their own stuff. Well at least it seems the writer is a good friend and not just some random dude."

Dave says in his statement it isn't even a friend, it's some dude Rise hired

Danred97
January 9th 2017
1182 Comments


And nothing of value was lost. Feel sorry for the dude though.

Thealwaysopenedmind
January 9th 2017
596 Comments


It seems as if all these metalcore bands are going down the drain. Dang.

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erizen826
January 9th 2017
829 Comments


Do people not realize Andy screamed before Dave joined the band?

LoLifant
January 9th 2017
1179 Comments


"Dave says in his statement it isn't even a friend, it's some dude Rise hired"

I read his statement and he doesn't say that. Dude who writes stuff seems to be that Brendon who is indeed credited from their very first album up until the recent one.

Thealwaysopenedmind
January 9th 2017
596 Comments


@erizen826 I know that. Their first ep was awesome. I don't feel like Andy is going to be doing much screaming though.

SnakeDelilah
January 9th 2017
18950 Comments


nothing of value was lost tbh

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tresm87
January 9th 2017
3708 Comments


"not voluntary nor forced"


that makes no shred of sense and honestly this isn't surprising. they really don't need a screamer anymore with the softer more alt sound they are going for. screaming isn't considered "cool" anymore in most of these risecore bands. its all about primary cleans now even over heavy stuff.

Satellite
January 9th 2017
24217 Comments


schrodinger's vocalist

brettgoespunk
January 9th 2017
201 Comments


wow... Dave said in his statement that sometimes the band weren't even allowed into the room to write the damn album (Retrograde). Must be why it was pretty trash. That's pretty ridiculous. Rise Records is a piece of fucking shit.

Themaxwell23
January 10th 2017
51 Comments


Judging by their sound they need a new ghost writer . These dudes are fakes and frauds .

CzechyGuy
January 10th 2017
129 Comments


Is it just me or is their page on sputnik totally empty

elliootsmeuth
January 10th 2017
3042 Comments


"not voluntary, nor forced"

the fuck does that mean? did he just go up in a cloud of smoke?

Spec
January 10th 2017
34260 Comments


yeah somebody fucked up their page

Poobamku
January 10th 2017
10 Comments


Dave was CTEs best vocalist of the two, so they took a big hit. Saw them live with just andy and it was bad. So like retrograde, this band will fall into obscurity

Satellite
January 10th 2017
24217 Comments


just took a big hit myself #520

Joeman82
January 10th 2017
475 Comments


I find it asinine to criticize Dave for having little creative input when they seemingly had just as little input as him. I also find it funny how they say they all grew as people and wouldn't let their selfishness tear them apart, and right afterwards they try and shit on the guy. Really good job displaying the "personal growth" and "selflessness" you all tought each other.

TheSleepys
January 10th 2017
87 Comments


I wonder what David did that is so fucked up to get him pretty much kicked out. Telling everyone that they don't write shit makes it seem like he is kind of salty. I can understand why CTE was being passive aggressive in their statement.

Sauce
January 11th 2017
870 Comments


scene bands and their soap operas

SonOfIceAndFire
February 2nd 2017
17 Comments


Dave seems to be doing well enough on his own. He's releasing snippets of tracks he's made (with some collaboration), and song covers on Twitter.

Untitled heavy track (feat. Brandon Crabtree): twitter.com/DaveCTE/status/823372873565949952
Something To Believe In (Young the Giant cover): twitter.com/DaveCTE/status/825893281301139456

Telle Smith of The World Alive has stated that he's willing to work with Dave as well.
twitter.com/tellesmith/status/823393596330020864



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