Sputnikmusic Guidelines Update
2014-08-25 by Jom STAFF | 129 Comments
Hi there.

The site has been borderline unusable lately (we are working on those intrusive pop-up ads -- sorry about those, they shockingly aren't our fault, though!), so there are some slight tweaks that we are making, in the hopes that they will prove to be more efficacious than that hilarious Spam Cans idea.

First: We have a new For the Meds thread with some new guidelines in place. You can see it here:

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=632428

The tl;dr of this thread:

1) Up for Parole is in effect until September 2nd. If you don't know what that is, then go read the thread. ALSO THERE IS A VERY IMPORTANT TP POLL THERE

2) We are relaunching the Reviews Site Community Thread, which is basically going to be Shit Post Central every week (it will be reset every week). Other than no porn, no phobic/-ism/-ist language, and no doxxing (no matter how innocent), you have free reign in that thread to be as mean or as cognitively-impaired as you like, because I'm tired of seeing it everywhere on the reviews site.

The first edition of this new incarnation is available here:

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=632429

3) If you cause problems on the reviews site, your ban is permanent. If you feel that you were caught in a crossfire (or caught us on a bad day), you can appeal/inquire without fear of repercussion.

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This section has to do strictly with the reviews site stuff:

1. News articles: stop it with the /r/dadjokes news titles. I understand (and appreciate) wanting to be creative, but plz stahp.

2. All news articles require a citation or YouTube embed. If you're feeling super lazy, then just link to the artist's official site or Facebook page. We will not approve news articles with bad titles or with no citations. Also, news articles should have ESSENTIAL INFORMATION (such as the artist name, the song, the album the song is from, the release date if it's an upcoming album, etc.; or, information like tour dates, where to access them, with whom the artist is touring, etc.). Basically, if I see a news article that opens with "Artist has posted their new song on youtube" with nothing else, I'm not going to approve that (I'm also going to lecture you on the has/their thing).

3. Adding albums to the database has been really weird lately, so let me clarify something -- if you are trying to add an album to the database and it doesn't have ALL of the following:

- Album Name in Title Case (unless the artist legitimately has it differently)
- Release date
- Tracklist (in a numerical/ordinal list)
- Album art*

... it is not getting approved.

*For album art, it cannot be high-resolution art. I know that that's frustrating, but the site can't handle hi-res. A good rule of thumb is 300px (length x width), but < 300kb if possible. Also, the site can't handle .png or .gif, so please make sure it's a .jpg or a .jpeg.

All album and artist edits go through an approval queue, and we get to it within a few hours max. This means that you need to be patient! Trying to upload the album over and over again (even if it's to fix something) is going to cause problems. Just let it ride out, let us approve it, and then you can make your changes.

4. Lists have to tangentially be about music. Having a title like "How do I get my boyfriend to shave his ball hair?", having a Steel Panther album, and then saying "list is digs" in the first comment is breaking the spirit and letter of the law. Come on, man! Lists and shoutboxes are supposed to be fun discussion pieces, so try to keep circlejerking out of the review threads where possible.

5. If you encounter any problems, please use the Report Post feature and trust us that we're going to take care of it.

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We all love this site for different reasons, so please do your part to contribute to the community in a positive way. If your contribution is strictly to troll, then hey, we have a thread just for you (just don't post anywhere else, I guess)!

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=632429
Tagged: Sputnikmusic

Comments:Add a Comment 
Italianjesusfootball
August 24th 2014
265 Comments


haha okay

Digging: Flying Lotus - You're Dead!

trackbytrackreviews
August 24th 2014
1349 Comments


I think 350px looks a little better without weighting that much

melonade
August 24th 2014
775 Comments


Ooooohooobobohohoboboon oh boy

Green Baron
August 24th 2014
20000 Comments


http://www.sputnikmusic.com/bands/Sputnikmusic/10180/

I never knew this page existed

Digging: Kayo Dot - Coffins On Io

Asdfp277
August 24th 2014
1164 Comments


i usually upload at 250px and i've never seen anything better on any other album so i think using 350px or above is unnecessary but maybe i'm wrong

YourDarkAffected
Contributing Reviewer
August 24th 2014
1672 Comments


These are great changes. #4 on the review site list was particularly getting ridiculous.

Asdfp277
August 24th 2014
1164 Comments


http://www.sputnikmusic.com/bands/Sputnikmusic/10180/

LOL

Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
August 24th 2014
50510 Comments


I read all of this

melonade
August 24th 2014
775 Comments


I read all of this [2]

Rebel

fromtheinside
August 24th 2014
18717 Comments


my favorite line not shown here Jom

"(CAUTION: this is discouraged because snitches get stitches; also, assume that we have been monitoring it anyway)."



Digging: Devin Townsend Project - Z2

FourthReich
August 24th 2014
17860 Comments


smae

trackbytrackreviews
August 24th 2014
1349 Comments


Anything that's above 400px is just wasting space, really

DatBeefPudding
August 24th 2014
1330 Comments


1. News articles: stop it with the /r/dadjokes news titles. I understand (and appreciate) wanting to be creative, but plz stahp


THANK THE LORD

BMDrummer
August 24th 2014
8632 Comments


aight got it

ArsMoriendi
August 24th 2014
4845 Comments


Good ideas. Let's hope the userbase actually gives a damn about them.

Digging: Beck - Odelay!

Slut
August 24th 2014
2470 Comments


what a great time to be alive

Green Baron
August 24th 2014
20000 Comments


This will be the turning point for Sputnik.

emester
August 24th 2014
3906 Comments


Liking some of the changes, especially the list one. and thank god for the death of shitty news titles

Digging: Falls of Rauros - Believe in No Coming Shore

Asdfp277
August 24th 2014
1164 Comments


yeah this sounds great!

elcrawfodor
August 24th 2014
343 Comments


I kinda like the lists that are just people talking about what's going on in their lives, but I agree that stupid ones about shaving balls should be banned.

ZilbelPing
August 24th 2014
6160 Comments


Cool, I'm gonna try to frequent the review community thread in the forums like I tried for the last ones some years ago.

Also, insta-permabans damn. A bunch of you won't be using sput anymore, aye?

chesse13
August 24th 2014
3719 Comments


i like this change a lot

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MuhNamesTyler
August 24th 2014
4304 Comments


10 years from now we are all gonna remember exactly where we were when we read this

Digging: Revocation - Deathless

Green Baron
August 24th 2014
20000 Comments


I was jamming Anberlin

ZilbelPing
August 24th 2014
6160 Comments


"Having a title like "How do I get my boyfriend to shave his ball hair?", having a Steel Panther album, and then saying "list is digs" in the first comment is breaking the spirit and letter of the law."

Oh, wylie

theacademy
Staff Reviewer
August 24th 2014
28640 Comments


community thread!

Digging: Jessie Ware - Tough Love

Jom
Staff Reviewer
August 24th 2014
2688 Comments


>> I kinda like the lists that are just people talking about what's going on in their lives

I do, too, which is why we are not going to police those.

It's just our position that shaving one's penis hair isn't something worth celebrating, whereas getting a new job or getting accepted into uni is worth making a list on the Internet about.

Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
August 24th 2014
50510 Comments


or getting 50k comments

fromtheinside
August 24th 2014
18717 Comments


I'M ALMOST THERE!

Asdfp277
August 24th 2014
1164 Comments


yeah the thing is that those lists fuel stupid-ass comments and ban-worthy stuff but w/e

chesse13
August 24th 2014
3719 Comments


dumb question but what thread is the one where i get the ratings wipe/ review deletion?

tempest--
August 24th 2014
13878 Comments


all bans are permanent? damn

ZilbelPing
August 24th 2014
6160 Comments


you need to upgrade to sputnikgold to access those featurez

theacademy
Staff Reviewer
August 24th 2014
28640 Comments


what are "/r/dadjokes" headlines

also are we officially "OFFICIALLY" using down-style for headlines

MuhNamesTyler
August 24th 2014
4304 Comments


For a small annual fee of only $19.95

Jom
Staff Reviewer
August 24th 2014
2688 Comments


>> dumb question but what thread is the one where i get the ratings wipe/ review deletion?

Same thread as the parole one. They have the same function until Up for Parole lapses, but the same administrative stuff I need to do can happen in the same thread.

fromtheinside
August 24th 2014
18717 Comments


"what are "/r/dadjokes" headlines"

"Switchfoot switch feet"!

lame as fuck but that's the job of a dad

Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
August 24th 2014
50510 Comments


are black users gonna get denied parole more often than white users?

Frippertronics
August 24th 2014
928 Comments


lol

Digging: Scott Walker and Sunn O))) - Soused

fromtheinside
August 24th 2014
18717 Comments


was that a coincidence

Green Baron
August 24th 2014
20000 Comments


oh Treb

theacademy
Staff Reviewer
August 24th 2014
28640 Comments


ah, thanks fti

totally get it now + very good example lol

Asdfp277
August 24th 2014
1164 Comments


LOL damn

Cappa
August 25th 2014
116 Comments


tl;dr is tl;dr

Just be like:

- Use citations.
- No racist language.
- Etc.

Asdfp277
August 25th 2014
1164 Comments


^not clear enough, neg
edit: also, boring.

ZilbelPing
August 25th 2014
6160 Comments


agreed

Arcade
Contributing Reviewer
August 25th 2014
2895 Comments


I was banned on the forum for reasons unbeknownst to me, is it possible to have that ban lifted likewise?

Digging: Iceage - Plowing Into the Field of Love

evilford
August 25th 2014
22797 Comments


"Jabronis" I love you Jom

Digging: Burial (NL) - Relinquished Souls

fromtheinside
August 25th 2014
18717 Comments


arcade what? you're a contrib. don't u know already the face of the website is not where things are done?

Phlegm
August 25th 2014
5104 Comments


great news

Digging: Dean Blunt - Black Metal

ZilbelPing
August 25th 2014
6160 Comments


yo any plugs tonight?

tommygun
August 25th 2014
24988 Comments


looks good fellas

chug73
August 25th 2014
1147 Comments


finally the titles madness ends

Arcade
Contributing Reviewer
August 25th 2014
2895 Comments


ugh but that means i have to make an alt./new email if i want to get back into the forum site to ask to be unbanned

Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
August 25th 2014
50510 Comments


someone already asked for you to be unbanned on your behalf and I like it's been lifted/will be lifted


Asdfp277
August 25th 2014
1164 Comments


the thing is that the mods already lifted the ban but only on the reviews site and he wants to cry about babymetal on the forums too

chug73
August 25th 2014
1147 Comments


double post.

fromtheinside
August 25th 2014
18717 Comments


here we go

ProjectFreak
August 25th 2014
1411 Comments


ah yes, time for me to remember that i still don't know jack about the forums because I just read reviews

Digging: From Indian Lakes - Absent Sounds

Asdfp277
August 25th 2014
1164 Comments


what forums

ProjectFreak
August 25th 2014
1411 Comments


to be honest

why are they so separate from the rest of the site

krthll1
August 25th 2014
91 Comments


Wait? So there will no longer be amazing new titles like "Abandon All Ships abandon ship?" That was just a perfectly timed pun even if it was a bit ridiculous.

Asdfp277
August 25th 2014
1164 Comments


truly a sad day for sputnik, rip "Abandon All Ships abandon ship"

chug73
August 25th 2014
1147 Comments


As hated as they were that will be their swansong.


OwMySnauze
August 25th 2014
1063 Comments


The rebirth of Sput!

tempest--
August 25th 2014
13878 Comments


Jom I can't help but notice your first list only goes to 3) even if the second one does indeed go to 5.

FeedingNetherlands
August 25th 2014
343 Comments


Didn't read. Can someone tell me what should I do to avoid getting banned?

Asdfp277
August 25th 2014
1164 Comments


^don't be a dipshit.

spam on the thread specifically made for that purpose on the forums (link below); make lists that are actually about music; if ur gonna make a news article, make sure it includes a link to the source and it doesn't have an stupid title; sput is havin trouble with albums right now so if ur gonna add something to the db make sure it includes everything it needs to include, and the art is not super hd or it excedes the 300px-300px; BANS ARE PERMANENT NOW; use the report button if u see something, or report on the forums (but make sure it's worth reporting); there's a new thread for reports, it works just like the old one save for a few minor changes (but you can ask for features, inquiry about bans, report stuff, same thing).

here's a link to the SPAM/BULLSHIT/WHATEVER THREAD:
http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=632429

here's the new (and momentary) report thread:
http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=632428

FeedingNetherlands
August 25th 2014
343 Comments


Oh, thanks. Bans were always permanent for me, so basically I don't care.

MO
August 25th 2014
18857 Comments


"stop it with the /r/dadjokes news titles. "

well holy shit the mods doing something right

Asdfp277
August 25th 2014
1164 Comments


^now that dad jokes have been defeated, finally the site will be usable again

krthll1
August 25th 2014
91 Comments


It just feels wrong to ban cheesy puns for news articles. If the shoe fits, it just has to be on said foot. Now it will read boring like "Abandon All Ships disband." Speaking of bands breaking up, did anyone link an article to the Knife and their disappointing breakup recently? I haven't noticed one and that musical loss really does create some Deep Cuts(pun fully intended).

Rowan5215
August 25th 2014
27199 Comments


The stakes have been upped it seems

Digging: Vestascension - Breaching the Sound

Winsomniac
August 25th 2014
7983 Comments


Hi Jom. What exactly constitutes a shitpost? (If this is well-elaborated upon in the forum post,
please ignore)

Wolfhorde
August 25th 2014
13645 Comments


Yeah, thanks for getting rid of those pun-ridden "news". That was atrocious.

clercqie
Contributing Reviewer
August 25th 2014
6487 Comments


I'm just glad that most of the threads I frequent haven't really suffered from this behaviour. But these are good poins, glad to see them addressed!

Digging: Andy Stott - Faith in Strangers

ScuroFantasma
August 25th 2014
2227 Comments


Good changes I think. When you say all bans are permanant, do you mean their duration is permanent or the ban will last forever?

Digging: Horsehunter - Caged In Flesh

sixdegrees
August 25th 2014
17190 Comments


bootlicking statists

Digging: yasumiyasumi - Tokyo Digital Love

ShadowRemains
August 25th 2014
21042 Comments


need to be able to ip ban morons like vermicide and skele who spam alts

Digging: Execration (NOR) - Morbid Dimensions

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
August 25th 2014
31355 Comments


When you say all bans are permanant, do you mean their duration is permanent or the ban will last forever?


I think you might need to broaden the differences here buddy

Digging: Objekt - Flatland

ShadowRemains
August 25th 2014
21042 Comments


the hong tam clones are popping up here in greater numbers every day

someone get the tranquilizer guns

chug73
August 25th 2014
1147 Comments


can we ban potsy for being a huge pretentious jerk. skele is cool

ShadowRemains
August 25th 2014
21042 Comments


also re: lists

someone should correct the editing feature so that the coding doesn't go all awry when you edit a list comment (i.e. the spacing/etc.)

clercqie
Contributing Reviewer
August 25th 2014
6487 Comments


I think you might need to broaden the differences here buddy

He asks that if he gets banned, will there be a chance to be unbanned by you guys in the undetermined future, or will it last forever.

tempest--
August 25th 2014
13878 Comments


idk about anyone else but I thought "your ban is permanent" was a pretty clear statement

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
August 25th 2014
31355 Comments


tempest gets 5 points

Wolfhorde
August 25th 2014
13645 Comments


"also re: lists

someone should correct the editing feature so that the coding doesn't go all awry when you edit a list comment (i.e. the spacing/etc.)"

That would be ace.

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
August 25th 2014
31355 Comments


It is on the list of things to be looked at by MX, but that, and the all the rest, are subject to his availability

ScuroFantasma
August 25th 2014
2227 Comments


"I think you might need to broaden the differences here buddy"
"idk about anyone else but I thought "your ban is permanent" was a pretty clear statement"

Well, I thought it did mean that all bans are permanent but Jom's advice on the For The Meds thread reads "You are welcome to inquire about the length of your ban" meaning that the bans have a length and therefore are not permanent right?

ScuroFantasma
August 25th 2014
2227 Comments


"When you say all bans are permanant, do you mean their duration is permanent or the ban will last forever"

and to clear this up a bit, I meant that I noticed previously people were given a '2 week ban' for example. I was asking whether what Jom had written meant that this duration was permanent (non negotiable) or that the ban itself would be permanent.

tempest--
August 25th 2014
13878 Comments


it seems you failed to look at the rest of the sentence, which reads:

if you feel our answer isn't going to be "Forever"


FourthReich
August 25th 2014
17860 Comments


i hope this was created to deter incidents like the babymetal thread and not because the site seems to be getting an influx of petty complaints by cry baby users who can't take a bit of heat..i remember when i joined it was almost a right of passage to get shit on by users like hep, sonic, og potsy, acad et cetera...

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
August 25th 2014
31355 Comments


Basically, assume that it's permanent but that we are open to the idea depending on behavior and time served etc. It's not carved in stone per se, but we have the slab and chisel at the ready

ScuroFantasma
August 25th 2014
2227 Comments


Fair enough Dev, thanks for clearing it up. Just thought it'd be good to know.

clercqie
Contributing Reviewer
August 25th 2014
6487 Comments


i remember when i joined it was almost a right of passage to get shit on by users like hep, sonic, og potsy, acad et cetera...

I fail to understand why this is considered to be a good thing.

Jom
Staff Reviewer
August 25th 2014
2688 Comments


>> It just feels wrong to ban cheesy puns for news articles

What? We're not banning them; we're just asking people to stop doing them because editing them to something less obnoxious is getting tedious.

>> When you say all bans are permanant, do you mean their duration is permanent or the ban will last forever?

I'm not a computer scientist. Is this a binary joke? Are these not the same thing?

>> also re: lists // someone should correct the editing feature so that the coding doesn't go all awry when you edit a list comment (i.e. the spacing/etc.)

We're trying to figure it out. It's not an intentional bug, we promise.

ScuroFantasma
August 25th 2014
2227 Comments


@ Jom I already clarified what I meant (hopefully) and it's been sorted. Sorry if it was a bit confusing lol.

Jom
Staff Reviewer
August 25th 2014
2688 Comments


Ha, no worries -- I was just trying to make my way through where I last left off and noticed that things got clarified along the way.

I'm still not a computer scientist, though :[

krthll1
August 25th 2014
91 Comments


I was just busting some chops about puns not being utilized as much. I thought they were pretty funny but they did need to go. Don't take me too seriously, that would be silly. Some of those article titles were just awful and needed to be changed.

danielito19
August 25th 2014
6038 Comments


i remember when i joined it was almost a right of passage to get shit on by users like hep, sonic, og potsy, acad et cetera...

I fail to understand why this is considered to be a good thing.

fouthreich acting like an old man itt: "Uphill snow both ways"

Digging: Viper the Rapper - You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack

DrGonzo1937
August 25th 2014
5897 Comments


I read all of this [3]

Glad the ad thing is getting sorted though, that shit was a pain.

Digging: Ilenkus - The Crossing

DikkoZinner
August 25th 2014
3278 Comments


Great site, keep up the good work fellas.

evilford
August 25th 2014
22797 Comments


yeah I appreciate your guys' desire to clean the site up a bit, I think it'll mean good things. I also read this whole thing.

Relinquished
August 25th 2014
25186 Comments


"you have free reign in that thread to be as mean or as cognitively-impaired as you like, because I'm tired of seeing it everywhere on the reviews site."

123456

zaruyache
August 25th 2014
6852 Comments


>> I kinda like the lists that are just people talking about what's going on in their lives

I do, too, which is why we are not going to police those.


Oh good!

Digging: Ardour Loom - Demo

Jom
Staff Reviewer
August 25th 2014
2688 Comments


Again, as a friendly reminder, manscaping is not considered a significant event, so don't make a list about it.

Mythodea
August 25th 2014
1104 Comments


I read all of this [4]

Great site, keep up the good work fellas. [2] I actually recommend it to anyone we talk about music with and if they happen to check it out, they are all quite pleased.


Digging: Maxophone - Maxophone

Cryio
August 25th 2014
97 Comments


Nice update but seriously now, are you ever going to rebuilt the site from the ground up?

Keep the design if you like, just don't make it self destructive on modern browsers. Use the delights provided by modern HTML and CSS.

Hovering my mouse over the comments still makes everything everyone ever written underlined. Annoying as hell.

scottpilgrim10
August 25th 2014
4211 Comments


Great Update, especially the part about non music related lists.

Digging: Weezer - Everything Will Be Alright in the End

Jom
Staff Reviewer
August 25th 2014
2688 Comments


I personally am not in charge of coding, but I'm willing to bet that once the owner is done with his IRL obligations he will devote some necessary 1-on-1 time between he and this site.

Futures
August 25th 2014
11634 Comments


love u jom

Digging: Mock Orange - Nines & Sixes

jefflebowski
August 25th 2014
8253 Comments


this is very welcome, looking forward to blowing off steam on shitpost central

and thank god the lists thing has been addressed, sputnikfeels.com is not a site that i'm interested in visiting. What would be nice is IP bans to prevent endless alts, but i'm no expert so it's understandable if that's unfeasible

keep up the awesome work jom!

Green Baron
August 25th 2014
20000 Comments


"shitpost central"

That's what I'm calling that from now on

Dancedrewdance
August 25th 2014
849 Comments


abandon all ships disband is still hilarious, because they got big through disband.

Gwyn.
August 25th 2014
15160 Comments


Hovering my mouse over the comments still makes everything everyone ever written underlined. Annoying as hell.


I think this depends on the browser, its currently happening to me but Im on firefox, where as Im usually on Chrome and this doesnt happen there

Pestiferous
August 25th 2014
1309 Comments


but what will this mean for all the sexy lists i was going to make in honor of a brand new school year???

Futures
August 25th 2014
11634 Comments


its means you will get permabanned please go ahead and do it

ChoccyPhilly
August 25th 2014
7178 Comments


Jom said:

"I kinda like the lists that are just people talking about what's going on in their lives

I do, too, which is why we are not going to police those."

Surely that sums it up?


Digging: Swallowed - Lunarterial

aircycle
August 25th 2014
995 Comments


i don't know what babymetal is i guess that's why i'm not banned

ASnideReturns
August 25th 2014
5241 Comments


Babymetal is a band that's... well, apparently quite controversial. It's a standard Post-Hardcore
band, except they have J-Pop influence.

Digging: Avenged Sevenfold - Nightmare

Frippertronics
August 25th 2014
928 Comments


no

Futures
August 25th 2014
11634 Comments


It's a standard Post-Hardcore

OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD

chesse13
August 25th 2014
3719 Comments


Snide listen to fugazi please

ASnideReturns
August 25th 2014
5241 Comments


I did check Fugazi, someone sent me a link a while ago. I dug it. It'll be interesting to see if the site changes at all with these guidelines

FourthReich
August 25th 2014
17860 Comments


fouthreich acting like an old man itt: "Uphill snow both ways"


not in the least and it's not a bad thing because the mods aren't always around to tell people how one should act on this site and likewise enforce the rules both written and unwritten.

Arcade
Contributing Reviewer
August 26th 2014
2895 Comments


not in the least and it's not a bad thing because the mods aren't always around to tell people how one should act on
this site and likewise enforce the rules both written and unwritten.


this. if my banning and caning has taught me anything, it's not to run around thinking being a twaddle talking dickhead is
funny.

Emim
August 26th 2014
26646 Comments


Thank you for giving these ragamuffins an outlet.

danielito19
August 26th 2014
6038 Comments


I always thought it was spelled "ragamoffin"

idk i suppose i could be wrong

TalonsOfFire
August 26th 2014
8124 Comments


These are great changes, big thanks to everyone involved with this

Digging: Stella Luna - Stargazer



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