Tool lawsuit delays new album
2014-07-15 by dfevil085 | 119 Comments

Tool have recently revealed a lawsuit over artwork that an associate guitarist had created but claims was not given credit for. Also, an insurance company hired
by Tool themselves have filed a suit against the band due “technicalities regarding the case.”

Drummer Danny Carey hopes that the album will be finished by the end of 2014 though guitarist Adam Jones has made no estimate but stated that Tool are “not
going to settle for doing anything but our best work, and the fans appreciate that.”

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SnakeDelilah
July 15th 2014

5457 Comments


inb4 everybody [2]

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Tunaboy45
July 15th 2014

1788 Comments


Sigh, greedy bastard is delaying new material.

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Green Baron
July 15th 2014

18198 Comments


The 10+ minute track sounds neat enough from Danny's descriptions.

CK
July 15th 2014

4889 Comments


Sucks to suck

Slut
July 15th 2014

1985 Comments


LOL

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FearThyEvil
July 15th 2014

12286 Comments


tool confirmed for 2024

Eldar777
July 15th 2014

16 Comments


they do whatever possible not to release this album

Satellite
July 15th 2014

20687 Comments


I can't wait until Tool goes back to boring me with their music instead of these non-stories about delays.

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deathschool
July 15th 2014

6347 Comments


Hahahaha. Everyone knew it was coming.

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zaruyache
July 15th 2014

5915 Comments


*no Tool confirmed for 2014.



How do you NOT get permission for an album cover?

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Insurrection
Contributing Reviewer
July 15th 2014

20655 Comments


lol

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laughingman22
July 15th 2014

1365 Comments


wut

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BMDrummer
July 15th 2014

4462 Comments


Pretty sure it was a lawsuit that caused the delay between Aenima and Lateralus, no surprise here

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IronGiant
July 15th 2014

736 Comments


tools probably making this whole thing up to buy time. they're actually known to pull shit like that so I wouldn't be surprised hahaha

IronGiant
July 15th 2014

736 Comments


2015 though new tool and radiohead, both confirmed albums of the millennium

laughingman22
July 15th 2014

1365 Comments


what artwork is under dispute?

Kris.
July 15th 2014

12152 Comments


hahahaha

Satellite
July 15th 2014

20687 Comments


"associate guitarist"

"an insurance company hired
by Tool"

lol these guys are such corporate pseuds

Tunaboy45
July 15th 2014

1788 Comments


Can't wait for lamewalrus in 2018

Satellite
July 15th 2014

20687 Comments


by then they'll be called Tool™ Presented by Nokia

mryrtmrnfoxxxy
July 15th 2014

12140 Comments


wat

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Tunaboy45
July 15th 2014

1788 Comments


Can't wait for the remaster of undertow

FadedSun
July 15th 2014

1246 Comments


Yeah. What artwork? All of their art since Aenima has been done by Alex Grey.

And did they really say they only have one song finished? Get the hell out of here.

beachdude42
July 15th 2014

131 Comments


Yay more delays... not surprising though.

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Spec
July 15th 2014

27062 Comments


Sweet a Tool article. Can't wait to see the 1000+ comments.

Feather
July 15th 2014

1162 Comments


What is Tool?

Spec
July 15th 2014

27062 Comments


I think it's a rap group or a type of soup or some shit.

RivalSkoomaDealer
July 15th 2014

675 Comments


Album better be worth it.

Prolly wont be though.

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Green Baron
July 15th 2014

18198 Comments


Tool soup lol

Totengott
July 15th 2014

412 Comments


Overrated band, let's hope that their new album is something good.

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Tunaboy45
July 15th 2014

1788 Comments


Tool Soup is the title of the upcoming compilation.

MasBarHigeuoris21
July 15th 2014

1537 Comments


This news is sad. Tool does whatever they can to punish their fans. Just when you get kinda hyped for a new Tool album this year, you read this shit.

tool confirmed for 2024 [2]





Feather
July 15th 2014

1162 Comments


Since when does this site care about rap groups?

Cimnele
July 15th 2014

307 Comments


Since when does this site care about rap groups???

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PorcelainRain
July 15th 2014

437 Comments


Corporate Rock

Sabrutin
July 15th 2014

536 Comments


Confirmed for the year of never.

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froghawk
July 15th 2014

126 Comments


Artist is Cam De Leon who did the original wrench logo and the artwork on Aenima and Salival. He sued them in 2005, which means this has been ongoing for most of a decade...

lyzakthellama
July 15th 2014

1702 Comments


Since when did this site care about soup???

JohnFire
July 15th 2014

190 Comments


I still don't get how a lawsuit about a logo prevents them from writing songs?

Sabrutin
July 15th 2014

536 Comments


"Since when did this site care about soup???"

I swear I thought about posting the same comment.

Hep Kat
July 15th 2014

15057 Comments


yo i was literally just sayin to my cousin the other day (he's a tool tool) that maynard james keenan is the biggest fucking scumbag in all of music for straight up constantly lying to his entire fanbase about fucking everything and that the entire band was comprised of inept shitheads, and i GUARANTEED HIM something, ANYTHING, else would happen to delay this album

god i wish i had a transcript of that convo to post.

nsa prolly got it doe

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FadedSun
July 15th 2014

1246 Comments


"Artist is Cam De Leon who did the original wrench logo and the artwork on Aenima and Salival. He sued them in 2005, which means this has been ongoing for most of a decade..."

Really? I thought that dude was good friends with Tool? They promote his art on their website all the damn time. What a dick haha

Green Baron
July 15th 2014

18198 Comments


oh damn

PunchforPunch
July 15th 2014

5940 Comments


"he's a tool tool"

ahhahahahahaha

ti0n
July 15th 2014

1377 Comments


"Tool have recently revealed a lawsuit over artwork that an associate guitarist had created but claims was not given credit for. Also, an insurance company hired
by Tool themselves have filed a suit against the band due “technicalities regarding the case."

seriously tho. learn some fucking english damn

KjSwantko
July 15th 2014

9054 Comments


Hopefully scientists discover means to allow people to live to 250yrs because I would like to hear a new Tool album someday

MeatSalad
July 15th 2014

14195 Comments


lol [123]

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MO
July 15th 2014

18266 Comments


hahaha this is too funny

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fish.
Contributing Reviewer
July 15th 2014

21587 Comments


this is the real life musical equivalent of the breaking bad fly episode



except they're just waiting for the fly to die of its own accord

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KjSwantko
July 15th 2014

9054 Comments


"nsa prolly got it doe"

yeah where's Snowden when ya need him

withateethuh
July 15th 2014

78 Comments


lol

Green Baron
July 15th 2014

18198 Comments


And then they'll lose the suit, and the album will be delayed to 2017.

giraffesareepic88
July 15th 2014

72 Comments


tool confirmed for 2024 (3)

Green Baron
July 15th 2014

18198 Comments


Why 2024?

fish.
Contributing Reviewer
July 15th 2014

21587 Comments


because it's far away from now

Green Baron
July 15th 2014

18198 Comments


Why that exact year tho

fish.
Contributing Reviewer
July 15th 2014

21587 Comments


because it's really far

dawija1017
July 15th 2014

548 Comments


Lol anyone who thinks this band is overrated is not a musician

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Insurrection
Contributing Reviewer
July 15th 2014

20655 Comments


im a musician and i think this band is overrated

ReAnimator
July 15th 2014

297 Comments


Tool lawsuit delays delay on new album

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dawija1017
July 15th 2014

548 Comments


Then you aren't a very knowledgeable musician

Satellite
July 15th 2014

20687 Comments


wait i have to be a musician to think this music sucks? :/

Insurrection
Contributing Reviewer
July 15th 2014

20655 Comments


ive been studying music since i was 7 so id say im pretty comfortable on the subject

point is, judging a band by their musicianship has nothing to do with their music, which i think is overrated

stranger
July 15th 2014

562 Comments


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL @ TOOL FANS

dawija1017
July 15th 2014

548 Comments


How are they overrated if the only things anyone ever talks about them is them being overrated?
Aenima and Lateralus were very unique and creative albums for their time and 10,000 days was just a
cool concept album that was produced very well...They're simply very talented people in general who
make very enjoyable music. I don't consider them Gods or really "the best" at anything, I'm just glad
they're among us

fish.
Contributing Reviewer
July 15th 2014

21587 Comments


"How are they overrated if the only things anyone ever talks about them is them being overrated?"

that's not really true tho is it

stranger
July 15th 2014

562 Comments


becauase they make boring music for pimply virgins trying out for the high school wrestling team

Green Baron
July 15th 2014

18198 Comments


Wrestling?

YakNips
July 15th 2014

7466 Comments


bad band yea

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stranger
July 15th 2014

562 Comments


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrestling

TheDepravedPelican
July 15th 2014

94 Comments


What the fuck? Seriously. One of the highest rated bands of all time and the greedy, rich little shits still can't help but try to make even MORE money.

Green Baron
July 15th 2014

18198 Comments


You know what the funny part is?

SGGreenman
July 15th 2014

814 Comments


It's sad how unphased I am by this article.

SourAK
July 15th 2014

452 Comments


band sucks who cares

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Green Baron
July 15th 2014

18198 Comments


The tools have come out of the sheds.

dawija1017
July 15th 2014

548 Comments


^this guy knows...maybe the whole point of Tool is to expose all the tools out there

SourAK
July 15th 2014

452 Comments


that guy is 12

dawija1017
July 15th 2014

548 Comments


"band sucks who cares


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I also found this to be really funny

dawija1017
July 15th 2014

548 Comments


"band sucks who cares


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I also found this to be really funny

dawija1017
July 15th 2014

548 Comments


Yeah i double posted that because of how funny it was

CK
July 15th 2014

4889 Comments


That was quite possibly the least funny thing I've read in weeks

Green Baron
July 15th 2014

18198 Comments


maybe not

SourAK
July 15th 2014

452 Comments


^this guy knows...maybe the whole point of Tool is to expose all the tools out there


Satellite
July 15th 2014

20687 Comments


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWVaDxMTBEU

dawija1017
July 15th 2014

548 Comments


You're right CK, I should've automatically known from all the comments on here that Tool and Emmure are on the exact opposite end of the talent spectrum...Tool being on the low end

Green Baron
July 15th 2014

18198 Comments


non-medy

Satellite
July 15th 2014

20687 Comments


rich evans has the voice of an angel

TalonsOfFire
July 15th 2014

5418 Comments


rich evans is an angel

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ExplosiveOranges
July 15th 2014

1543 Comments


Fucking hell

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dawija1017
July 15th 2014

548 Comments


For the people who only read the comments, here's the only part of the article that really matters...

"As for the lawsuit Tool are currently dealing with, Jones goes into serious detail. “The fans are pissed at us,” Jones begins. “And while part of me is selfish and goes, ‘I’m not necessarily doing it for them,’ it’s time that they understand what’s going on.”

Back in 2007, an associate of the guitarist claimed that Tool had used his artwork without giving due credit. The lawsuit filed from this incident became compounded when an insurance company Tool hired for the band’s defense also ended up filing a suit against Tool over “technicalities regarding the case.” Seven years later, Tool still find themselves wrapped up in litigation with the insurance company, with the case set to go to trial in January.

“It’s costing millions and millions and millions of dollars to defend us,” Jones explains. “And the fans are all going, ‘We want a new Tool album. What the f—?’ And you don’t want to pull people into your problems, because they don’t understand. But the point is, we’re fighting the good fight. We’re going to trial and we want to crush them. But every time we’ve gotten close to going to trial, it gets postponed and we’ve wasted money and time and it has just drained our creative energy. We bought an insurance policy for peace of mind, but instead we would have been better off if we never had it and just dealt with the original lawsuit.”


FrayFray
July 15th 2014

2 Comments


The more I listen to Tool - and this album in particular - the more they seem less like an 'intelligent' band and more like a band that seems 'intelligent' to people of average intelligence. I'm not saying that to put anybody down -- I like plenty of dumb as shit music, and it's no secret that I'm not exactly a Rocket Surgeon. But the whole Tool package, with its unnecessary and ineffectual little musical changes every few seconds, the unceasingly 'serious' mood tied to simplistic riffs, the lyrics that tackle insightful issues in a hamfisted high school philosophy manner - man, I'm dumb as shit and even I'm not dumb enough to fall for this. It just reeks of 'the uncreative preaching to the easily impressed.' And maybe they're smarter than Soundgarden or Britney Spears or something, but how much is that really saying?

Green Baron
July 15th 2014

18198 Comments


I'm pretty sure Maynard can be a bit pretentious at times but come on.

Did you really need a new account just to post that?

FrayFray
July 15th 2014

2 Comments


You do realise its just an old copy-paste



Green Baron
July 15th 2014

18198 Comments


I've never seen that before.

dfevil085
July 15th 2014

23 Comments


"The more I listen to Tool - and this album in particular - the more they seem less like an 'intelligent' band and more like a band that seems 'intelligent' to people of average intelligence. I'm not saying that to put anybody down -- I like plenty of dumb as shit music, and it's no secret that I'm not exactly a Rocket Surgeon. But the whole Tool package, with its unnecessary and ineffectual little musical changes every few seconds, the unceasingly 'serious' mood tied to simplistic riffs, the lyrics that tackle insightful issues in a hamfisted high school philosophy manner - man, I'm dumb as shit and even I'm not dumb enough to fall for this. It just reeks of 'the uncreative preaching to the easily impressed.' And maybe they're smarter than Soundgarden or Britney Spears or something, but how much is that really saying?"

I see your point. But what really got me into Tool were the lyrics, beyond that, this band really doesn't have much to show. Maybe they are just pretending to be smart; but at least they do a good job of it.

Green Baron
July 15th 2014

18198 Comments


"beyond that, this band really doesn't have much to show."

the riffs

the drumming

the Maynard

the basslines

dfevil085
July 15th 2014

23 Comments


"The more I listen to Tool - and this album in particular - the more they seem less like an 'intelligent' band and more like a band that seems 'intelligent' to people of average intelligence. I'm not saying that to put anybody down -- I like plenty of dumb as shit music, and it's no secret that I'm not exactly a Rocket Surgeon. But the whole Tool package, with its unnecessary and ineffectual little musical changes every few seconds, the unceasingly 'serious' mood tied to simplistic riffs, the lyrics that tackle insightful issues in a hamfisted high school philosophy manner - man, I'm dumb as shit and even I'm not dumb enough to fall for this. It just reeks of 'the uncreative preaching to the easily impressed.' And maybe they're smarter than Soundgarden or Britney Spears or something, but how much is that really saying?"

I see your point. But what really got me into Tool were the lyrics, beyond that, this band really doesn't have much to show. Maybe they are just pretending to be smart; but at least they do a good job of it.

Green Baron
July 15th 2014

18198 Comments


Intentional double post?

dfevil085
July 15th 2014

23 Comments


"the riffs
the drumming
the Maynard
the basslines"

All of them are good, they fit the songs well and serve their purpose; but they don't jump out at me or grab my attention. I need to really listen to them to appreciate all they are.

dfevil085
July 15th 2014

23 Comments


And no, the page took forever to refresh so I didn't notice.

drasticaction74
July 15th 2014

1721 Comments


it's like the year 2000 all over again

[edited]: it's like the year 1998 all over again

Green Baron
July 15th 2014

18198 Comments


Nah, because 5 years is a lot less than 8.

dawija1017
July 16th 2014

548 Comments


"unnecessary and ineffectual little musical changes every few seconds" ... You mean time signatures?
Or fills? And that's part of music? Lol


"the unceasingly 'serious' mood tied to simplistic riffs" -- There's more to music than a riff...and
which riffs did you find so serious? Lol


"the lyrics that tackle insightful issues in a hamfisted high school philosophy manner" -- What does
that even mean? You imply they are pseudo-intellectual yet claim they are insightful? I think you
just can't accept that they make you think.


"man, I'm dumb as shit " -- Yes.


"It just reeks of 'the uncreative preaching to the easily impressed.'" -- Sounds like you are bitter
about the satisfaction others obtain from their music because you yourself do not understand it.


"man, I'm dumb as shit " -- Yes.




facupm
July 16th 2014

7109 Comments


2017 maybe i'll have my copy

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fromtheinside
July 16th 2014

17714 Comments


is this the longest gap so far?

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BigPleb
July 16th 2014

34328 Comments


So bad on the fans, jokes aside.

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deadinholywood
July 16th 2014

238 Comments


"the riffs
the drumming
the Maynard
the basslines"

The riffs are really nothing special, they fit well for the type of music with good use of effects but there is nothing technical about them. As for the Maynard from variety of live clips I've seen I really think his voice is a shadow of what it used to be.

I used to love the band but now they shit me. Honestly 10,000 days was half filler, the rest was mostly average and not worth the wait. Also why are people getting excited for the ten minute song that “goes through lots of changes and it’s got really heavy elements?” so bloody what THEY HAVE A STACK OF THEM ALREADY!

MO
July 16th 2014

18266 Comments


"The more I listen to Tool - and this album in particular - the more they seem less like an 'intelligent' band and more like a band that seems 'intelligent' to people of average intelligence. "

so. fucking. hard

mryrtmrnfoxxxy
July 16th 2014

12140 Comments


ya but also who cares mo my man i agree but , still rules imo

MO
July 16th 2014

18266 Comments


they rule for sure. I just realized that a long time ago, it's nice to read

mryrtmrnfoxxxy
July 16th 2014

12140 Comments


o gotcha [2]

YoYoMancuso
July 16th 2014

10890 Comments


yeah 10,000 Days was pretty underwhelming

AstrialExpedition
July 16th 2014

18 Comments


10,000 days is prob my favourite. Mainly because there isn't as much angsty riffs/shouting. All the filler i can think off is lipan
conjuring, lost keys and viginti tres which I also really like the mood they set. My only problem with the album is the track transitions
aren't so smooth in the middle.

Brabiz
July 18th 2014

141 Comments


maybe we'll hear it by 2045. Fingers crossed

sixdegrees
July 18th 2014

16851 Comments


fresh and epic joke

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Green Baron
July 18th 2014

18198 Comments


comebacks are not needed

TheHamburgerman
July 18th 2014

1283 Comments


and the fans appreciate that
No we don't. Just release the damn album. If it's as good as 10,000 Days, which was pretty damn good, it's not worth the decennia of waiting.

MO
July 18th 2014

18266 Comments


they have maybe one song written, which is 10 minutes so that's sweet

but yea there's nothing to release yet man

gordodustin
July 19th 2014

112 Comments


There's no way a new album will be out before the end of this year. They've been talking news for like 2 years now?



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