Insane Clown Posse Lawsuit Dismissed
2014-07-09 by River Tam | 94 Comments

After a 2011 report by the FBI that named Juggalos (ICP fans) a "loosely organized hybrid gang," Insane Clown
Posse filed a lawsuit against the government to prevent them from calling their fans and associated acts a
criminal organization. Today, the lawsuit was thrown out by a judge, who declared that the government has
every right to declare them a gang. Additionally, part of the lawsuit said that the report caused police to
harass Juggalos wearing ICP merchandise. The judge said this was invalid, as the report only described them
as a gang, and did not call for any specific actions to be taken against them. The ACLU has promised to try to
overturn this decision.

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InbredJed
July 9th 2014

5786 Comments


yay! Police State here we come...




next thing they'll be calling Home Schoolers terrorists.

Greenpaw
July 9th 2014

194 Comments


I don't like ICP, but this is fucking ridiculous.

VinVal
July 9th 2014

692 Comments


the man 1 icp 0

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VermTheNedSlayer
July 9th 2014

291 Comments


Juggalos and members of insane clown posse are not people, are chavs or worms

Greenpaw
July 9th 2014

194 Comments


It's hard to debate with you Verm when some of the dumbest people I've ever met are juggalos.

Futures
July 9th 2014

9608 Comments


but the dumbest person i've ever met is verm

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zaruyache
July 9th 2014

6235 Comments


I'm just surprised the gov'ment labeled a bunch of white kids as a dangerous gang. Does this mean that racism is over?

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demigod!
July 9th 2014

44130 Comments


verms not that dumb hes just insane

also lol ICP still exist??

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VermTheNedSlayer
July 9th 2014

291 Comments


I'm just surprised the gov'ment labeled a bunch of white kids as a dangerous gang. Does this mean that racism is over?

Could be if the juggalos were people, juggalos are not people, they are chavs or worms

VermTheNedSlayer
July 9th 2014

291 Comments


Look at this, these insects ain't people

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/image/gotj-friday-320%20copy.JPG

they are more like mutants or zombies

Greenpaw
July 9th 2014

194 Comments


I just love how one of them has a t-shirt that says, "Juggalos up in this bitch".

VermTheNedSlayer
July 9th 2014

291 Comments


also lol ICP still exist??

Good one demi

ScuroFantasma
July 9th 2014

1501 Comments


I don't like ICP, but this is fucking ridiculous. [2]

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VermTheNedSlayer
July 9th 2014

291 Comments


Is not ridiculous, it should have been done since 1993, besides do you remember that kid from high school who laughed every time anyone said "penis"? He probably listens to Insane Clown Posse.

Greenpaw
July 9th 2014

194 Comments


^ As a lecture about magnetism went on right?

VermTheNedSlayer
July 9th 2014

291 Comments


As a guy who has a bachelor degree in a natural science the lecture about magnetism is a heresy

Futures
July 9th 2014

9608 Comments


lol

ScuroFantasma
July 9th 2014

1501 Comments


Is not ridiculous, it should have been done since 1993, besides do you remember that kid from high school who laughed every time anyone said "penis"? He probably listens to Insane Clown Posse.

lol probably. Still, labelling music fans as a gang is pretty stupid, even if said band is ICP. There can't be that many of them anyway right?

deathschool
July 9th 2014

7138 Comments


Anyone that is looking at this and saying, "lol good. ICP fucking suck" are missing the fucking point. They're also making it easier for the FBI to continue to do this. Of course they'll go after the easier targets first.

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DanielNightLewis
July 9th 2014

549 Comments


Verm, by the way you speak it is hard to imagine you getting out of nursery/kindergarten let alone holding a degree.

ICP are terrible and their fans are definnitely questionable but persecuting people for their taste in music is terrible, like high school extended to a federal scale.

Futures
July 9th 2014

9608 Comments


lol rekt

evilford
July 9th 2014

22296 Comments


my personal penalty for even being a juggalo is worse so what

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yourgodisinferior
July 9th 2014

802 Comments


metal heads, punks, hiphop heads all godless heathens and need to be stopped!

ExplosiveOranges
July 9th 2014

2246 Comments


I don't like ICP, but this is fucking ridiculous. [3]


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MrMatt767
July 9th 2014

166 Comments


lol.

Omaha
Staff Reviewer
July 9th 2014

10056 Comments


There Are More Juggalos Than Polar Bears

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R6Rider
July 9th 2014

4560 Comments


one of my old friends got me into ICP way back for a short time and my first concert was an ICP show

They're decent dudes, it's their retarded fans that make them look bad.

I don't like ICP, but this is fucking ridiculous.[4]

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Judio!
Contributing Reviewer
July 9th 2014

5369 Comments


I don't like ICP, but this is fucking lol [5]

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R6Rider
July 9th 2014

4560 Comments


lol

drasticaction74
July 9th 2014

1729 Comments


I gave a shit never

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AgentZero
July 9th 2014

322 Comments


They gather in large groups wearing clothing meant to distinguish themselves as part of said group. They have committed various crimes including, but not limited to: selling drugs, using drugs, rape, robbery, assault, underage drinking, statutory rape, and destruction of property while identifying themselves as members of the group. Tell me how this does not give the FBI reason to identify them as a gang. On a side note, the ACLU really will step up for ANYBODY.

VermTheNedSlayer
July 9th 2014

291 Comments


You see, juggalos are not people, they are leeches with null IQ which are not capable to survive or work like the decent people

JJOMan
July 9th 2014

276 Comments


Fucking magnets how do they work

Judio!
Contributing Reviewer
July 9th 2014

5369 Comments


I see miracles in every way. I see miracles every day.

RVAHC13
July 9th 2014

482 Comments


Some days I wish I was a juggalo so I can trampoline myself into crowds of people

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Slut
July 9th 2014

2461 Comments


Reading this thread made me angry

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VermTheNedSlayer
July 9th 2014

291 Comments


Fucking magnets how do they work

I could explain you how they work but uncultured and non educated twats like futures and the juggalos
will not be able to understand the complexity of the physics related to magnetism. Danielito could
explain to you cuz he is a physics major but he is so grumpy and I doubt that he will have the
patience, lolololololololol

TzarChasm
July 9th 2014

137 Comments


What people here fail to realize is that there actually IS a gang called the Juggalos. They're known for committing brutally violent attacks including murders and one of their hallmarks is using knives, axes, and other bladed weapons. They wear ICP merchandise, some paint their faces, and they have even been known to attack non-members who do the same without gang membership, as they consider these fans to be fake and weaker than they are.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juggalo_gangs





BMDrummer
July 10th 2014

5876 Comments


Wow, I wouldn't classify all Juggalos as gang members, but most of them seem to be retarded anyway

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VermTheNedSlayer
July 10th 2014

291 Comments


I don't even consider juggalos as people, they are more like mutants which are genetically inferior

BMDrummer
July 10th 2014

5876 Comments


Haha love ya Verm

Slut
July 10th 2014

2461 Comments


Yes we know

VermTheNedSlayer
July 10th 2014

291 Comments


Love you too BM

gryndstone
July 10th 2014

305 Comments


juggalos are people. shitty people, sure, but they're still people.

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VermTheNedSlayer
July 10th 2014

291 Comments


Are you sure ?

http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/hobby-lounge/205197d1224266632-any-juggalos-out-there-untitled-1.jpg

http://www.spin.com/sites/all/files/styles/style620_413/public/120814-_MG_7098-1a.png

http://www.billboard.com/files/styles/promo_650/public/stylus/1178989-gathering-of-the-juggalos-617-409.jpg

They are more like imps

Futures
July 10th 2014

9608 Comments


ok we get it

sixdegrees
July 10th 2014

16917 Comments


they're people who are down with the clown

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Dancedrewdance
July 10th 2014

432 Comments


So am I wrong for thinkin we could be something for real

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Kris.
July 10th 2014

12280 Comments


"ICP are terrible and their fans are definnitely questionable but persecuting people for their taste in music is terrible, like high school extended to a federal scale."

this isn't what's happening at all, good job

Emim
July 10th 2014

26605 Comments


ACLU fighting the important matters as per usual.

TheSupernatural
July 10th 2014

1124 Comments


Juggalos are awful but seriously.

Fuck the government.

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Gwyn.
July 10th 2014

15007 Comments


Wish I could sue them for existing

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ResidentNihilist
July 10th 2014

1011 Comments


verm take your meds

Cimnele
July 10th 2014

359 Comments


this gives ICP the perfect impetus to go grindcore

ScarlettPimpernail
July 10th 2014

188 Comments


And it would be more listenable than anything they have put out...

titanslayer
July 10th 2014

1597 Comments


I'm actually ok way this ruling

Departures
July 10th 2014

876 Comments


It's a civil ruling so the burden of proof is only based on a balance of probabilities. You don't need reasonable doubt to decide a certain way, just a stronger argument from one side compared to the other.

henryChinaski
July 10th 2014

2719 Comments


Wait, they have fans?

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DreamAgain
July 10th 2014

251 Comments


The ACLU

LOL.

ACLU is a complete joke.

DikkoZinner
July 10th 2014

2989 Comments


Tough gang

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Impervious
July 10th 2014

356 Comments


Just because you listen to their music, doesn't make you part of a gang. They identified "Juggalos" as a gang because fans wearing their merchandise were doing crazy shit as a large group. They have every right to identify them as a gang.

Don't be offended if you listen to their music and call yourself a "Juggalo". They don't mean you. They may question you, but if you're not doing stupid shit with a gang, you're safe.

Quit flippin' over retarded things that barely affect you. You should really question how you can stand listening to music from such a talentless group of "tough guys". The idea of this band kills my faith in people let alone how their fans think they're so cool being identified as "Juggalos".

Cimnele
July 10th 2014

359 Comments


agreed your erudite opinion on music is far more important than human rights

Impervious
July 10th 2014

356 Comments


Damn right : )

Dancedrewdance
July 10th 2014

432 Comments


Now ur messing with a son of a bitch

clander270
July 10th 2014

149 Comments


and to think this all could've been avoided by not wearing clown makeup

xpaincakex
July 10th 2014

157 Comments


I feel afraid for my life when I see the Juggalos walking down the street.

On a serious note : this is hilarious, fuck icp

DatBeefPudding
July 10th 2014

1292 Comments


not a juggalo... but this sounds like a police state honestly. glad im not 'murican.

Kris.
July 10th 2014

12280 Comments


yeah dude the FBI classifying MS-13 as a gang is straight-up police state, too. agreed hard.


or wait hey maybe do some fucking research

Spluger
July 10th 2014

1132 Comments


Wow, really? I thought they had a case.

Sauce
July 10th 2014

686 Comments


"Joseph Bruce, known as Violent J"

grabbing this whole "we're not a gang" thing by balls, i see.

TzarChasm
July 10th 2014

137 Comments


For the second goddamned time I would to call attention to the known fact that there IS a street gang called the "Juggalos" whose
signatures include hideously violent murders committed with edged weapons. Most ICP fans would sooner end up their victims
than join their ranks, but nonetheless they do exist.

There is absolutely nothing totalitarian or "police state" about the FBI's concerns here.

dawija1017
July 10th 2014

555 Comments


Unless they're causing destruction and being disorderly then who gives a fuck...all I see are a bunch of delusional wannabes desperate to be a part of something

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MonotoneMop
July 10th 2014

159 Comments


I mean, there are gangs of juggalos that are a legitimate concern, but there are also gangs of black people that are legitimate concerns, and you don't see FBI reports calling black people loosely organized hybrid games. I understand this is a much larger scale, but if kids going through a phase are being harassed by police over it, something's wrong.

Greenpaw
July 10th 2014

194 Comments


Not too sure how my stance is on this after reading about all these "juggalo gangs". Wasn't aware these fans take this that seriously... Jesus Christ.

DatBeefPudding
July 10th 2014

1292 Comments


yeah dude the FBI classifying MS-13 as a gang is straight-up police state, too. agreed hard.


or wait hey maybe do some fucking research


i wasn't talking about ms-13 i was talking about juggalos?

Kris.
July 10th 2014

12280 Comments


congratulations, you're an idiot

someguest
July 11th 2014

20393 Comments


juggalos are just poor, fat, white trailer park kids anyway

the worst damage they'll do is hawking on your burger

titanslayer
July 11th 2014

1597 Comments


congratulations, you're an idiot [2]

Phlegm
July 11th 2014

4300 Comments


juggalo until i die fuck u haters u will never feel true acceptance

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Skoj
July 11th 2014

1114 Comments


"...they came for the Juggalos, and I said nothing."

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DatBeefPudding
July 11th 2014

1292 Comments


apparently im missing out on something are the juggalos associated with ms-13? i dont understand the connection at all.

go ahead and ridicule me like a child or have a discussion like a man.

DatBeefPudding
July 11th 2014

1292 Comments


honestly i can see both sides of the argument upon reading, (as the juggalos have split into 2 groups: the gang associated members and the strictly music enjoying fans).


however i still believe the US to be a police state and if you disagree with that then i think it's you who's the "idiot"

sixdegrees
July 11th 2014

16917 Comments


edgy

sixdegrees
July 11th 2014

16917 Comments


I bet you share Cop Block posts on facebook too huh

DatBeefPudding
July 11th 2014

1292 Comments


no, i dont live in the US so i could care less about their problems. doesn't stop me from reading about the injustices that happen over their on various news sites.



titanslayer
July 12th 2014

1597 Comments


What makes you think it's a police state

Brabiz
July 12th 2014

197 Comments


2edgy5u

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Brabiz
July 12th 2014

197 Comments


2edgy5u

DatBeefPudding
July 12th 2014

1292 Comments


many many things. the power that police have over citizens. the fact that many cops are overly aggressive and pay little to no consequences for it.

the continuous CISPA rehashes. the whole edward snowden thing.

there are countless reasons why, do i have to say them all? saddens me that so many americans dont know their own nation's issues.

Greenpaw
July 12th 2014

194 Comments


Phlegm plz don't take your angst out on the world and attack innocent people in juggalo gangs. plz.

DatBeefPudding
July 13th 2014

1292 Comments


mind you canadian politics are nearly just as shady, dont get me started on the senate

titanslayer
July 13th 2014

1597 Comments


None of the stuff you said has anything to do with this article so why are you even talking about that stuff here? Did you just think, "Hey look a court case I don't really understand, I should pretend that has something to do with a police state."

MuhNamesTyler
July 13th 2014

3839 Comments


ICP are a bunch of dummies

DatBeefPudding
July 14th 2014

1292 Comments


None of the stuff you said has anything to do with this article so why are you even talking about that stuff here? Did you just think, "Hey look a court case I don't really understand, I should pretend that has something to do with a police state."


...i answered your question about why i think the US is a police state, or quickly becoming one.

but ok, you can be salty.



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