wolfe give your insight
my insight is that I'm going to that fuckin fest and jam hard and let em live like regular people they're not bound to entertain us forever
they're playing oldschool tunes I'm so stoked
this is exactly what HANL have been doing for years
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doing what exactly
kris is mad that the new dangers track sucked
"Maybe we'll release another album next year or maybe in a decade, we honestly don't know."
that could be any professional band long into their careers, not just HANL, so idk why u even brought that up
cause it made me think of it wolfe, no real reason behind it
Not really that disappointed; I enjoy CoL, but there are several other Post Metal bands that I prefer over them. A copy of "Somewhere Along the Highway" sits in my collection, and that's good enough for me.
several none but just Neurosis
these guys are barely playing sludge anyway so they're not post-metal anymore
This is awful news. Just saw these guys live in October and they put on the best live show I have ever seen. On the flip, I know that Cult of Luna doesn't make enough money off of music alone to survive and all the band members have jobs outside of CUL. They probably just need time to focus on their personal lives. I just hope they come back refreshed and don't go on a permanent hiatus/break up like Isis. Post-metal needs this band.
It's not like this is really a surprise since it was 5 years between Eternal Kingdom and Vertikal. I'd rather they take their time and make new music when the time is right rather than releasing an album every year just to put out new material.
And if they don't write another album at least they went out with one of their strongest records to date.
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^ that's what i'm saying, never got a chance to see them
I heard Klas was not returning after this concert
Honestly if after every hiatus they produce an album like Vertikal I'm not complaining.
Both Vertikal albums sucked hard and it's probably the best thing for the band at this point in time.
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Lol clim I see whatchu did
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Great band, haven't checked Vertikal yet.
It's really nice to see bands acknowledging their limits and let some time pass before working on new stuff.
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Don't waste your time ; ).
Is it that bad Wizard?
How does it compare with their first three albums?
Don't listen to wizard. It's as solid as the other ones. No along the highway tho.
it's easily as solid as everything they've ever done. Much darker though.
Voivod, both albums draggggggggggggggggggg out so long on riffs they've used a million times. Look at my rating for the first few albums and you will see that I know what's up.
I hear you Wiz, for me Somewhere Along The Highway was a slight disappointment compared to all its predecessors.
Wiz being Wiz what a surprise.
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You da man wiz
"I hear you Wiz, for me Somewhere Along The Highway was a slight disappointment compared to all its predecessors."
Wait what... That's their masterpiece.
Imho, Salvation is their masterpiece
Salvation... -0.5 points for lame track names and -0.5 points for being an unperfected along the highway
I heard Klas was not returning after this concert"
yeah. it's what they call "the end of an era" for them.
-0.5 points for lame track names and -0.5 points for being an unperfected along the
goddamn you're stupid, just for track names. dark city isn't nearly as good as any of the longer
tracks on salvation, it dragssssss. I appreciate the experimentation on two tracks for the sake of
the album's theme but in the long run it makes it incomplete compare to Salvation, their
for me Somewhere Along The Highway was a slight disappointment compared to all its
besides their s/t I agree
Much darker though.
not as dark as The Beyond.
"Imho, Salvation is their masterpiece"
Thought I was the only one who thought that, right on nigs
wolfe u going to beyond the redshift? dunno if you're still in the uk
wiz tellin it like it is
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i'm not in the uk but i'm always willing to go for occasions like this and any good ATP shows
Imho, Salvation is their masterpiece 
Dude. You can't fuckin name a song "Leave me here" or "Waiting for you" and expect to get away with it.
I'm just sad that I still haven't seen them live.
I'm just sad that I still haven't seen them live. 
And I would agree with Sniff that their best is SATH
Guys gave me a really really great gig in June. Good for them to take a break, Vertikal did sound a bit tired in places
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Just saw them in October, really wish they had Klas still but the show was great. Played songs from their entire catalog so glad I went out.
Vertikal was not as good as their older records but it's not the steaming pile Wiz makes it out to be. He's just a grumpypuss
besides their s/t I agree
I beg to differ, their s/t is awesome. It was my first contact with the band.
Imho, Salvation is their masterpiece
Echoes is prob their best song so won't argue.
"Leave me Here" is one of my all time favourites.
That's a belter too.
Vertikal seemed to be first album by a post-metal band that I've listened to that did seem to be both atmospheric and vicious, something which a lot of post-metal bands could never seem to get right, only resorting to homogenous, cramped production and a heavy guitar tone that was completely inert.
Neurosis and Isis did that trick 10 years before these guys did. So no, you've barely listened to any post-metal to make a wild claim such as that.
I second that, resident jam In the Eye of Every Storm
Have done a long time back but not recently Barber and as for Isis I really do not like them. Tbf I do consider Neurosis post-metal and yet different from all the Isis copycat bands because their approach is far removed from them in the same way that bands like Bark Psychosis are far removed from Explosions In the Sky. My point lies more with the template that was layed out by Isis that many bands copied, which I should've clarified earlier. That template sounded sterile from the beginning and as that template has become the predominant (not total) norm for the genre, finding this record from a band that was originally one of those Isis clones is a breath of fresh air. It isn't perfect by a long shot but it was refreshing.
not sure how cult of luna can be an isis clone (for the record, they're not, and they've been around for almost as long) when all atmospheric sludge bands are basically children of neurosis
I think it's the way CoL seemed to develop in their sound up until/on Salvation plus they may have had similar starting points (started off heavy and raw, got far more focused) though they progressed at different paces as well as them sharing many similar traits at their core even from the beginning. Also it did seem like CoL took a little too much Isis influence on Salvation with the sound, it was afterwards they started to really be their own band.
I think it's the way CoL seemed to develop in their sound up until/on Salvationyou mean the same way neurosis progressed?
plus they may have had similar starting points (started off heavy and raw, got far more focused)again, just like neurosis
"In the Eye of Every Storm"
resident your stupidity is killing me
Nah I was drawing comparisons between Isis and CoL. I agree and disagree Fade. Neurosis did progress in a similar way to Isis and CoL but there approach is entirely their own which is what makes them one of the best bands in the genre. The approach that both CoL and Isis (though this was unique for it's time) took was far more conventional instrumentally etc.
for the second point i was referring to how cult of luna started as a hardcore band (under the name eclipse) but w/e
there's really no point in comparing the three in any way, even in progress since they all did it differently, especially Neurosis. you're wasting your time.
you're seeing Neurosis as just post-metal when they're much more than that, with different degrees of sludge/hardcore influence. if anything, Eye and Honor are just that. Isis, just after Oceanic. Cult of Luna, just SAtH.
you have to understand that both Isis and CoL are from different continents and for just two years isn't enough for CoL to develop the sound so "similar". plus they were already doing what was to follow on Salvation in their prior albums. so shut the fuck up.
cult of luna sounds nothing like isis. end of discussion.
Relinque I was using post-metal as a genre tag that's it, I'm not denying that what Neurosis did/do is unique nor am I denying that CoL made a change in two years I'd actually agree with you as the lyrical themes etc. were being explored in The Beyond and S/T but it wasn't until Salvation that they were really pushed to the forefront and took on the whole idea of political oppression with their own unique take on it. At the end of the day my argument comes down to the fact that they both ended up drawing similar core conventions from the Neurosis Bible that they developed in parallel with notable differences before each developed different ways. There's no denying the change was started on SAtH but I felt with Vertikal it was a far greater realisation though far from perfect. And there's no denying that Isis could've been a big influence on Salvation and helped a lot of those lyrical themes be pushed into the conceptual mould on the next album because Oceanic was incredibly influential and considering how good the internet, media etc. were/are good at spreading information two continents would've not been a problem too bridge.
"Cult Of Luna will not die."
I FUCKING HOPE SO!
i need to come up with new words to say just how much this band rules
"it wasn't until Salvation that they were really pushed to the forefront and took on the whole idea of political oppression with their own unique take on it. "
lyrically they were stronger and more evident on The Beyond or are you just not hearing the in the beginning/middle/end of the album. Circle's lyrics were real relevant at the time, and The Watchtower's lyrical subject real similar to Panopticon,
They weren't the only ones; don't ignore that Godflesh, Swans, etc. also had their hands in this shit.
"there's no denying that Isis could've been a big influence on Salvation"
I'm not denying it completely either but then again there was only a 6 month difference between the releases of Oceanic and Beyond. The musical ideas in Beyond (Circle, for example) were just expanded on and they brought influence like Radiohead so CoL did not take as much as you'd like to think from Isis. A Sun That Never Sets, bands like Breach and Switchblade also existed before Oceanic.
just face it you're just basing all of your ideas to everything you got from the internet without any
context of the scenes back then. you're done, i'm done.