awesome

Better than Luminary

cant wait to hear this later

:'(


^that's my misery signal

Another solid teaser track. This is looking reeeeeeeeeeeal good fellas.

seems like i'm the only one here who already has the album

awesome, better than luminary [2]

"seems like i'm the only one here who already has the album"

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu :]

Amazing ending to the song.

"seems like i'm the only one here who already has the album"

Yo man leak dat shit.

nah u guys should suffer for another week

Yeah don't leak it

Yeah one week is tolerable.

Tbh, nobody wants to be the first guy to leak the album. It kind of spits in the face of the artist.

dont leak it wolfe just send it to me

excellent song.

Needs more time to sink in. But still pretty good!

good song, but lol why does it get louder towards the end?

Whaaat!? Sweet fo' sho'.

song ruelz.

ALBUMS GONNA RULE

So Wolfe how's the album

better than controller and mirrors I think but that's just first few listens

sweet

fine ass looking AOTY contender for me

fuck yes

ruled

Great song. Album is looking great.

nice, nice!

damn good

Good song but I definitely enjoyed Luminary more. This might be another grower though, took me days to
enjoy Luminary as much as I do now.

I'm glad they had a guest vocalist here. Carl needs to sing more or get some god damn range, I'm gonna
be pissed if he gives another monotonous performance that hurts the album for me.

I'm not really digging the first two songs but I hope the album will change it for me.

I don't think there is a guest vocalist though, sounds like Ryan, or maybe Branden

Not too fond of this song but I definitely like the previous two

I wouldn't know what either of them sounds like. Whatever the case I'm just glad to have some variation.

preferred luminary.

The album is going to be awesome I'm sure

Loved Luminary, this is pretty good.

"I don't think there is a guest vocalist though, sounds like Ryan, or maybe Branden"

it's Ryan

my play count for this album will be over a hundred within a week

this is so weird but not bad weird

too much djent and the melodies are really bland. one of their worst songs imo

too much djent

I definitely prefer this to Luminary.

this really stinks idont understand where people are finding enjoyment. No good riffs, no fluidity, the parts at like 1:15 sound like fucking elitist or some shit. i knew after solace they were going to sound like this

also they ruin karls vocals with the fucking overproduced, bullshit metalcore gang vox. i cant understand why they went in this direction. I cant even say they sold out, they just sound like every other shit metalcore band now. its like they lost every ounce of creativity they had

I wish I was at home listening to Swans

progmaster keeps bringing the idiocy up everyday way to go

so that's the new progmeister eh?

i can actually kinda agree about the fluidity but it was worse in luminary not this

luminary was bad but this is really, really terrible. they sound like august burns red now

fluidity's like the same shit in Of Malice and Mirrors smh

hahahahahah no its not even relatively close

i don't think you even know what djent is nexus

maybe if you cleaned your prepubescent ears or hear it more than just once like you apparently did then you'll see

i listened to luminary three times, this song three times as well. I couldn't find one positive quality to either song besides karl, but they even ruined his presence with the lolworthy faux hxc gang vox. if you deny that youre lying to yourself

lol ok you've always been diluted to begin with so this is pointless

yea im very DILUTED

dude every metal vocalist nowadays layers their screams lol you're stupid and also he doesn't even do it enough for it to ruin the song. i heard gang vox like twice

proggy, i usually think youre a cool dude but

if you deny that youre lying to yourself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qBu9DNoIOY

wtf

every metal vocalist nowadays layers their screams? wrong, and even if it were right that doesn't mean anything. it sounds bad regardless. the song is ruined by more things than just silly gang vox however. and this is coming from a misery signals fan anyway

fan

right

lol ok climactic but calling someone diluted is dandy

ive been into misery signals for like four years, the first two are freaking great, controller was eh, and this is just shaping up to be shit. if i was another user you wouldn't react the same way. my opinion is that this sounds bad. i dont understand why you have such a problem with that

i still cant really figure out what he meant by it lol

I like where proggy is going with this.

he just doesnt like whenever i have something bad to say about a band, album or song he likes. he does it every time lol. if i went on another username and posted the same opinion he wouldnt have said anything

well obviously not every single one of them does it but it's pretty common

i have a problem with 1) labelling the guitars djently lol they're similar riffs to Of Malice and 2)
you always had these dumbfounded opinions to begin with. new album is a mix of all 3 albums, if you
can't hear that then you're not really a fan because that's what it literally is. and don't say no
because I have the album at hand and I raise your 4 by 6 more years.

if it came from another user it'd be different cuz they don't know any better.

if i was another user you wouldn't react the same way

Shut up shadow

lol captain

sup capt

Album is gonna rule.

I love u guise tho so...

1. djent, before melodic construction is more a sound/type of production of the guitar. Tell me the part at 1:10 isnt fucking stupid and djenty. I mean come on man how can you deny that. If you think it's a good thing, all the power to you. It sounds like shit to me. What about the "our time will come" bullshit breakdown. They used to write breakdowns and climaxes with such more finesse, now it sounds like they can't write anything creative.

2. I haven't heard the new album. I have heard two songs from it, which I'm hoping represent the weakest aspects of the record.

3. IDC if you've been listening to the band longer, and I don't care if they meld the styles of all three records together. I don't care. I don't like how it sounds, I don't like the generic production and tone, I don't like the vocals, I don't like how simple and plastic the breakdowns and rhythm guitar sections feel. I don't like how most of the time the guitar melodies sound like mediocre versions of awesome melodies they wrote years earlier. I couldn't care less how long you've been a fan, and I never said you don't know what you're talking about. I don't fucking like how the music sounds. If you're going to call me an idiot for that then idk man you have comprehension issues

Proggy do you know what the inside of a vagina feels like?

only your sisters

he certainly needs to stop using the word djent, as does the rest of the world

progmaster: ignorant, helpless, dumbfounded, and deaf

I was never into this band, I really wish I was though. I'll give them another shot sometime real soon, but if that ain't work out, urgh.

Y I hate metalcore threads

i think djent is a good way to describe the production style/sound of the guitars, only because in parts it sounds exactly like other bands whom people refer to as djent so idk it feels like the best way to communicate the point. i'm at least hopeful these are two of the weaker tracks, i still consider myself a fan of the band

"I don't like the generic production and tone"

mirrors

"I don't like how simple and plastic the breakdowns and rhythm guitar sections feel."

mirrors and controller

controller maybe in the hollow feel in the rhythm section, mirrors doesn't in any way have the same generic production and vildhjarta-ish guitar tone that this does. seriously, you have got to be trolling or something

1. djent, before melodic construction is more a sound/type of production of the guitar.

Tell me the part at 1:10 isnt fucking stupid and djenty. I mean come on man how can you deny that.

at the time, and I remember this, everybody called Mirror's production shitty and the tones could've
been better and you damn well know it. but to those that heard the actual songwriting and gave it a
chance put all that aside. the guitar tone's not even that bad. maybe in album's context it won't be
so bad for you but in the meantime you gotta stop senselessly hating.

lol they open chug throughout way too much of the song, even more so with luminary. thats usually what happens when a metalcore band runs out of ideas, or had no creativity to begin with. it sounds djenty because it literally has the same tone, or a very similar tone at the very least to something any generic 'djent' band (animals as leaders, vildhijarta, elitist, etc) would sound like. Even if it's not an exact replica, it very clearly resembles that. It has more of a "Solace" kind of sound/production than something I would ever want Misery Signals to sound like

mirror's production/mixing was a bit of an issue. but it sounds 50x better and less hollow than most of these two songs sound. I'm not trying to hate this band, I'm a pretty big fan of them. I'm merely explaining that I don't like the direction in sound and I feel they've lost a lot of creativity, something they used to possess tons of.

sounds nothing like solace

the production sounds a lot like solace. The guitars especially

never got the buzz around this band, sounds pretty boring to me

animals as leaders a generic djent band......

that's what is holding me back. I absolutely cannot stand how the music/guitars sound and the breakdowns are really boring. Hopefully when the album leaks I'll feel differently after hearing it as a whole

Proggy like seriously fuck off lol

anything for you man

"they sound like august burns red now"

Dude how fucking stupid are you?

I mean for fucks sake man, express your opinion and get the fuck out. Don't be a prissy piece of shit and go into essay mode trying to defend your position. No one cares. Stop being a negative douchebag.

no

Oh and this is not djent, nor is it djenty.

lol ok chuck

^ above user obviously does not listen to djent.

lolllll

Proggy, would you call the part beginning at 1:26 in Luminary djent?

luminary is actually a tesseract cover

You are actually a worse and less funny version of kill.

lol shut up

Kill rules Progmaster sucks. Seriously, how do you continue to get stupider with your posts? Djent? Are you fucking retarded?

Looks like I hit a soft spot hahah

Pretty good

It must be embarrassing to not even know how to correctly describe a band you like.

Am I the only one that received an email stating the release date has been pushed back until the 30th?

For once a YouTube top comment speaks truth. Drummer is fucking great.

"I don't think there is a guest vocalist though, sounds like Ryan, or maybe Branden"

It actually is a guest spot. There are three on the record. I believe this is actually Mixon from 7A7P plagues but I could be confusing the tracks. I heard the album before it was mixed and trust me there is plenty to be excited about. I can't imagine anyone who has enjoyed every record they've but out so far not enjoying this. Its different enough to where the band is progressing yet retains almost all the qualities of their back catalog. I think everyone who's on the fence is gonna be pleasantly surprised.

Matt Mixon?! Oh fuck that's awesome. If that is indeed Mixon on Lost Relics than he for sure sounds different than he used to

"I can't imagine anyone who has enjoyed every record they've but out so far not enjoying this. Its different enough to where the band is progressing yet retains almost all the qualities of their back catalog."

this. and I thought for sure it was Ryan, but I haven't looked at the liner notes yet.

^ It's all good to hear. But agreed with Wolfe, sounds like Ryan to me


God damn I wish they would have Ryan do lead vox on a song sometime. He rules hard

Mixon hasn't done vox for anything since 7A7P so naturally his voice is gonna sound different. But yeah him being on the record is just fucking badass. I could be wrong about it being this track though. I can't clearly remember which one it is but I'm pretty sure this is it. The other guest spots are great too.

Who are the other guest vocalists?

"God damn I wish they would have Ryan do lead vox on a song sometime. He rules hard"

Have you heard any of the Burning Empires stuff? He's fucking great on that.

I'd rather not spoil who the other guest spots are. But one of them isn't even in a band in this genre of music and the other isn't from a band that is even really active anymore. You won't find Johnathan Vigil (thank God, nothing against the guy or anything I just feel like he's got a guest spot on everyone's cd) or Drew York on this record if that's what you were wondering.

Ahh I expected that, no probs man. And I'm gonna guess why might get another Fall Out Boy member guest spot

Ha! It's not someone from fall out boy. But that would have been my guess too.

Hahah damn, well I'll just wait and be surprised

so i'm seeing these guys sat will they sell the new album there? or do I have to preorder this shit

for sure they'll sell it

Relinquished

Is there any twinkly guitar work on the album?

good stuff

progmaster shut the fuck up

like for real

awesome thanks

so fucking stoked

the gang vox sound alright

how the fuck have you both already heard the album? that's so awesome

is it longer than controller was?

lol Progmaster you're an idiot. I mean, this wasn't great or anything, I found it okay but this has zero djent in it.

shit

laughably average band releases laughably average song wow maaaaaaan i'm shocked

I think Proggy is mistaking "groove" for "dent," which can only be done by a fucking idiot.

loveisamixtape

I'll probably get flak for this or some kind of hate but I was one of the people that contributed to the crew vocals on the album. So prior to actually recording our parts Greg sat us down (there were 6 of us total) and ran us through each track in its unmixed form. At the time myself and the others involved were the only ones outside the band to hear the entire record. This was in early June. As far as Relinquished goes I have no idea how he got his hands on it. As far as I know they haven't made it available to anyone who supported the indiegogo campaign yet and I feel like they wouldn't be selling it at shows this early but I don't know that for a fact.

Agreed Pit.

And yeah I supported them in the IndieGoGo campaign and they haven't given copies to us yet.

hahaha

Proggy probably thinks Pantera is djent lmao

Lol at this thread.

first minute of luminary is good, at least there is that

Yeah you're decent enough for when kill isn't around.

@nexus I twitched when you called Animals as Leaders generic. Or maybe you're saying this sounds generic and are using Animals as Leaders to help define djent in general. The phrasing was unclear.

Don't even try Death, it's useless.

animals as leaders is bad and they might not have been the best example but I only mentioned them to try to explain the type of sound I cannot stand when it comes to production/guitar tones

Tosin Abasi is way cooler than you.

Animals as Leaders is crazy overrated

their really bad

So I listened to this and it was pretty bad.

thank you

Animals as Leaders is awesome. You guys are jealous of Tosin Abasi.

jealous of what exactly

Tosin Abasi is the Yngwie Malmsteen of djent. That is not a compliment.

Lol. Except that Tosin is not a flaming douchebag.

No be he is also extremely talented but cannot translate that talent into making anything more than just ok music

ok is an overstatement

I disagree. Have you listened to Cafo?

the intro to cafo is one of the most laughably ridiculous things ive ever heard. that song is complete dweedly trash

I've listened to every AAL song, and Cafo does nothing for me

I wasn't talking to you.

But I'd like to see you try to explain that part.

Well Mr. Fountain, at least we can agree Controller is the best thing ever.

Well Mr. Fountain, at least we can agree Controller is the best thing ever.

I don't think Tosin is trash, I just think his albums feel like he is beating you over the face over how talented he is, without there being necessary passages that strike emotional chords like instrumental music needs.

agreed on that Chuck

Again I respectively disagree. But it doesn't matter, because Mis Sigs

he's pretty bad at writing music idk

Well Mr. Fountain, at least we can agree Controller is the best thing ever.

isnt as good as the last song but still solid.

this grew on me so much

I really wish Proggy would hang himself already. He seems to be a sad, little man.

his schools failed him hard

It's not that he doesn't have a semblance of intelligence. He just tries way too hard to be elite. I still don't think he listens to half of what he claims, because he can't ever describe the music beyond the general descriptions you find on the band's Wikipedia page.

shit

holy fuck it leaked

what? where?

from your underwear

oh u

Agreed Pit he prolly listen to Northlane daily

wolfe you didn't did you?

found it

not me, I wouldn't help kill their sales

do a tumblr search for absent light and there's a 256 zippyshare link

Okay. Hahah well I'm still waiting for the 23rd

I already ordered it, but I just can't wait any longer

Its leaked. It's great. On track 7 and it has been solid throughout. As evidenced in the pre release songs the heavier parts are even heavier, with slight Shai Hulud nut hugging here and there, and the melodic parts are better than ever.

Yeah I ordered it too

oh fuck it

i have no patience

kinda sucks that it leaked so early but there's nothing really that can be done about it

I don't see the link

yeah the rip is shit it's not worth it

so far it really does sound like a career retrospective

it didn't really leak "early" though. Not even two weeks out. I remember a couple records last year leaking months in advance

lol remember when Sempiturnal leaked like two months early

hahaha yeah exactly

they pushed it to the 30th and so that like 20 days early hahah. it definitely could be worse but it still sucks

every day is really important for sales and shit but they probably sold a few copies of it last night

the rip quality is 100% tolerable. And yea, I consider this a normal leak, not early. Anyone remember "You Fail Me" leaking? That was like....months early, in my head.

Oh, didn't realize they pushed it back, that's odd.

Well thankfully they got 50K extra on their crowdfunding campaign so I think it's not a big deal.

Selfishly, I am glad it leaked. I am seeing them the 18th and well, it's going to be fucking sick. Excited to see them in their hometown, I hope they burn the place to the ground.

Found a leak that sounds like a CD rip to me, on song 9. I'll spin it a few times before I actually decide how much I like it. Karl has zero variation so far though, not even any cleans, and that irritates me, he's the weak link with his monotone, but instrumentally it's sick.

Luckily your only on track 9

You will be impressed with tracks 10 and 11

Did not like the vocal melodies used in the last track at allllll, but the rest was great. And track 10 was indeed awesome.

I loved track 11

just got the leak, listened to a few songs, most of which i liked a lot better than the two they released

Well good proggy.

Tell which is your favorite when you finish listening

i still dont like it overall. so far, its their worst release for me and way too many parts are dull and uninteresting. but it's a little better than the total shitfest I expected

Well here to hoping it grows on you haha

I've listened to it 5 times now. Ursa Minor or Lost Relics is my favorite

i thought ursa minor was terrible. last song is pretty good i guess

sounds like mirrors pt 2

I dug it

nvm, song was good before the lol vox. wtf happened to this band they sound like a bunch of pussies compared to what they used to be

isn't mirrors your favourite album by them? cause this sounds exactly the same

you obviously skipped Luminary again

Proggy, you can stop trying to sound elite. We have you figured out. The sooner you admit to loco.g this thr better.

1. djent, before melodic construction is more a sound/type of production of the guitar. Tell me the part at 1:10 isnt fucking stupid and djenty. I mean come on man how can you deny that. If you think it's a good thing, all the power to you. It sounds like shit to me. What about the "our time will come" bullshit breakdown. They used to write breakdowns and climaxes with such more finesse, now it sounds like they can't write anything creative.

2. I haven't heard the new album. I have heard two songs from it, which I'm hoping represent the weakest aspects of the record.

3. IDC if you've been listening to the band longer, and I don't care if they meld the styles of all three records together. I don't care. I don't like how it sounds, I don't like the generic production and tone, I don't like the vocals, I don't like how simple and plastic the breakdowns and rhythm guitar sections feel. I don't like how most of the time the guitar melodies sound like mediocre versions of awesome melodies they wrote years earlier. I couldn't care less how long you've been a fan, and I never said you don't know what you're talking about. I don't fucking like how the music sounds. If you're going to call me an idiot for that then idk man you have comprehension issues

Pit have you listened to Absent Light yet?

Haven't had a chance, but I will probably tomorrow or the day after.....

Ahh okay will cool. Interested in what you will think of it

whats up with the electronic interlude in two solitudes? i do not like

Well, I definitely won't pretend to hate it.

Definitely does not top Controller or Malice.

two solitudes is one of the blandest songs ive heard from them its really boring

So are your comments.

hahaha life in your way?

regardless if your opinion is right or wrong, no one is going to take you seriously

Whenever he complains about a band/album, he never really delves any further than "bland" or "boring," and if he does, you can immediately tell he hasn't really listened to it.

I value your opinion about as much as I value Skele's opinion.

Congratulations.

The drumming throughout this is undoubtably awesome. Also hear mad Shai Hulud vibes in a lot of the techy parts.

Lolol

i mean he's earned the reputation of an annoying piece of shit (check his shoutbox spamming in earlier days) and now he wants to be taken to actually know stuff

too much breakdowns 4 me

lol

lol sure

Well, for anyone who is confused, TheNexus aka Proggy doesn't know shit.

dont really get why pit says i dont listen to stuff, i listened to 5 songs off of this and it was enough, I don't enjoy it

lol sure

as a fan im going to have to give them the courtesy of listening to the whole thing at least twice but it seems like it'll be a chore

its not true and stop trying so hard lol

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its not true and stop trying so hard lol

Let me clarify- you do listen to a lot of music, but there is also a lot of music you claim to listen to. When you comment in the latter, it's painfully obvious that you haven't heard one damn note off said record. Also, once again, the only two complaints you ever use are that the music is bland or boring, and then when you elaborate, you make a fool of yourself. You're really reaching for reasons to hate this, which tells me you probably love it. You just don't admit to it because you want to be considered "elite," but any user who's known you on Sputnik for more than five minutes can tell you're a complete fucking tool who has a serious inferiority complex.

its not true and stop trying so hard lol

music related question though, who's doing the cleans on the last two songs?

name a band i claim to listen to that I havent heard please

i dont care what you consider me, I don't like the music on this album because I don't like way it sounds. i dont understand how thats elite but okay. i guess anybody on sputnik who argues negatively against an album is only trying to be elite

No, only you. And I would love to start another argument with you about how you do care, but I don't think you could take the humiliation. And I can't name a specific album, Proggy, BECAUSE THERE ARE TOO DAMN MANY.

lol so I always say I listen to things I haven't heard, but you can't name even one? excuse me if im skeptical sir

im not asking to name all of them, or three of them, or even two. Just one example would suffice

I mean, i don't understand why you even comment on here anymore. No one values anything you say,d everyone despises you. It obviously bothers you because you sit there and defend yourself for hours on end sometimes.

it doesnt bother me lol, im just sitting here waiting for borderlands 2 to go on sale, thought I'd pass the time

I know you listen to them now, but I remember when you were first getting into screamo bands. I can't remember what thread, but you were making a fool of yourself trying to compare orchid to someone they don't even come close to. It was pathetic.

Dr. Pit of psychological studies has entered the premises.

And spec - I think it's Adrian from Northlane on Ursa Minor and I'm not sure about Everything Will Rust.

It doesn't bother you, yet out of the million other things you could do, you're going to sit here and seek out reasons why the site thinks you're a joke?


By the way, I'm done with this. I'm not getting banned for arguing with you. Feel free to rape my shoutbox like you so love to do.

what do you mean I know you listen to them now

how do you know what bands ive heard and which i havent do you have a camera in my basement or

i do

not seeking anything, i keep asking you a question you keep dodging, but whatever man, ttyl

i know you do spec but no way pit does i doubt it

There's this thing called album ratings, you impossible idiot.



There. I'm done.

wasn't impressed with the whole vaseline cucumber fiasco

okay find an album i rated that ive never ever heard, you still keep dodging the question lol

What?

whats that

Architects- Daybreaker

There,

Shhh.

I gave you an answer. Read my response earlier, guy-who-doesn't-care.

ive listened to half of daybreaker on youtube. I thought that was enough. I guess technically it's not fair to rate any album that way, but Im pretty confident im not even 1/100000 of the sput population that does the same thing

i dont care in the way you think i do

but i am enjoying the conversation regardless, you still failed to give even one specific example

come back!!!

If you actually do listen to the things you claim to you just have no idea how to describe them. You said a song off this album had too much djent, and then you said they sounded like ABR now. Neither of those things sound at all alike and neither of them sound at all like any song from this album.

Agreed

omg song is sooo good

djent type sound

august burns red type of lack of creativity

progmaster: ignorant, helpless, dumbfounded, and deaf

you said that already


you, like this album, lack creativity

I liked this a lot better than the other song

and yet you can't prove it wrong

and you never will

Add can't read to that list.

this song is better than katrina bowdens tits well not really but yeah

opollll

I'm sure this album is going to polarize a lot of people. I honestly think that mirrors and controller did the same thing when they first came out. Some people are just going to have to give it the proper attention and time to grow on them. At the end of the day it's still a Misery Signals record.

I just don't understand how this can lead to polarization, it is absolutely on par with their prior releases and it's nonsensical to say otherwise. There's nothing to legitimately argue or condemn besides the "Karl is monotone" argument, I get it, he does stay within a close range, but in my opinion his vocals fit the aggression and tightness of the band perfectly, he isn't trying to steal the show from the beauty of the musicianship, where the true beauty of the band is. Any fan of their previous work or any fans of metalcore in general owe to themselves to listen roughly 3-4 times before passing some quick minded opinion. As of now, I can safely say it's a solid 4.

If Devin Townsend produced this it would be 5/5

devin townsend produced this? OMG!

I said "If."

The Dev produced Malice and Controller.

The Dev produced Malice and Controller.

o rly? I need to check those then

Yeah. Controller sounds perfect. I love the wall of sound thing, his production style would have boosted this like crazy.

last 4 songs are massive

Fuck, dev where were you on this

who cares

there's no problem

Honestly the drums sound a shit ton better on this than Controller, no complaints with the guitar either...

so many people hating on luminary itt but it's so awesome as a song that was obviously supposed to be a single

320 leaked.

luminary works better as the part of the whole, as opposed to a single

Yep. Though I dislike how A Glimmer of Hope gets cut off

OMG my first listen is just seconds away!! :]

Yeah I got the email too

the album builds on itself like crazy

Wait a sec, I got the email from MerchNow about my IndieGoGo stuff but I don't have a DL link

Yeah, am I missing something with this email? All mine has is a giant pic of the album art.

^ same Yordy

and here I thought clicking the picture would send me to the dl site :/

I have the download link...




...but I ain't gonna download it!







BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA

No seriously bloc dont play with my heart like that.

they resent the email with the dl link a little later after the initial email

Whoa we were all way off on the guest spot on Lost Relics

Damn I didn't get the resent one

who is it on Relics?

Todd Mackey from With Honor

I would say more people know him as the guitarist of Life In Your Way

Ahh sweet

Who is it on Ursa Minor?

Yeah I couldn't remember if this one was the one with Mixon on it haha. The more I thought about it the more I started to doubt it. Ursa Minor either doesn't have a guest spot and those are Karl's cleans or they used the guy from Bad Rabbits on that track too.

idk lol, still didn't get my digital dl

The singer from Bad Rabbits does the cleans on the very last track. Got my digital dl earlier today. Maybe check your junk mail folder to make sure it didn't wind up in there accidentally.

Yeah I have haha idk what happend

I'd really like to her a version of this album without the strings.

No guitars?

agree w/ yordy

Orchestral strings. Misplaced and/or overused on the album.

wow proggy it's almost as if you aren't a fan of this album

Haha I know. It 'twas a joke

I personally enjoy the string sections. I feel like they actually compliment the overall feel of the album really well. The build up in A Glimmer of Hope wouldn't have that really epic feeling swell building in to to Luminary without them. They fit nicely into the contrast between darker and lighter parts on the record too.

Yeah I like them too

Sucked.

I hope that post is in reference to yourself.

it is

m/

i find Controller to be quite a bit better than Absent Light at the moment.

who cares it's still good

idk i like the production way better on this than controller. the atmospheric guitar stuff sounded great on controller but everything else sounded so plastic especially the breakdowns and karls vocals am i the only one the thinks mirrors>controller

^lmao agreed