Streetlight Manifesto boycott
2012-02-24 by Statrick Pickles | 84 Comments
Announced on their website this afternoon, ska/punk heroes in Streetlight Manifesto have chosen to "boycott themselves," and are urging their fans to do the same. According to the band, "We’re writing today to ask you to please boycott all Streetlight related items by not purchasing any of our records or merchandise from Victory [Records'] website, any traditional CD stores, online third party retailers or any digital distribution service (iTunes, Amazon etc)." Citing Victory's long-lived reputation as a greedy and shady record label that pockets unreasonable amounts of band revenues, the New Jersey based group has invited listeners to instead purchase SM merchandise via the RISC website (www.riscstore.com).

Streetlight Manifesto have been recording for their new record over the past year and expect the release sometime this summer.

Read the article in it's entirety over on Streetlight's website:

http://streetlightmanifesto.com/streetlight-manifesto-proudly-boycotts-itself/
Tagged: Streetlight Manifesto

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TooLateToGoBack
February 23rd 2012
1768 Comments


Why do bands still sign to this garbage label?

Scoot
February 23rd 2012
17779 Comments


worst label ever

Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
February 23rd 2012
50458 Comments


they had a lot of good bands back in the day
They all left for good reason

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Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
February 23rd 2012
50458 Comments


Streetlight signed with them in like 02 back when they weren't as shady and have been stuck in a contract
They release so few albums so that's why they're still on the label
They probably signed a 4 or 5 album contract


Acanthus
February 23rd 2012
9543 Comments


Sooo will this hold true come new album?

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iFghtffyrdmns
February 23rd 2012
7047 Comments


read the damn article it mentions it

North0House2
February 23rd 2012
5858 Comments


Wasn't Wax on Radio signed to Victory? I know they disbanded because of their record label and the contract they were under.

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steventon
February 23rd 2012
152 Comments


god bless these guys. fuck victory records, i will happily board the jolly roger.

Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
February 23rd 2012
50458 Comments


Victory records screwed over: Thursday, Streetlight, Atreyu, Darkest Hour, A Day To Remember, Hawthorne Heights, Taking Back Sunday, Between The Buried And Me, Silverstein, and many more probably

Acanthus
February 23rd 2012
9543 Comments


More fun to have pointless comment conjecture, especially since I don't care about the band but post
comments anyway.



Satellite
February 23rd 2012
20819 Comments


Streetlight Manifesto have been recording for their new record over the past year and expect the release sometime this summer.

...meaning the odds of it actually being out in 2012 are astronomically low

-longtime sm fan

Inveigh
February 23rd 2012
25019 Comments


Victory records screwed over: Thursday, Streetlight, Atreyu, Darkest Hour, A Day To Remember, Hawthorne Heights, Taking Back Sunday, Between The Buried And Me, Silverstein, and many more probably


most of those bands deserved it

steadyriot
February 23rd 2012
443 Comments


if they hate victory so much then why don't they leave.


thats not how contracts work

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
February 23rd 2012
31223 Comments


if they hate victory so much then why don't they leave.


Oh ffs


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Saturday
February 23rd 2012
90 Comments


they signed a very long time ago, when victory wasn't such a bad record label

Cipieron
February 23rd 2012
3508 Comments


i guess i'll keep boycotting this band, but for the reason that they are horrible

ReturnOfTheDnor
February 23rd 2012
893 Comments


Don't worry SM!!! I mediafire all your albums anyway! No worries, Victory won't be getting ANY of my money.

Mickeymau5
February 23rd 2012
1614 Comments


if they hate victory so much then why don't they leave.


uhhh contract?

Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
February 23rd 2012
50458 Comments


victory didn't have a bad rap in 98 bro

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
February 23rd 2012
31223 Comments


they could easily find a label willing to buy them out of their contract.


This is not as easy as it seems

Mickeymau5
February 23rd 2012
1614 Comments


http://www.latenightwallflower.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/tony3.jpg

what a tool

Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
February 23rd 2012
50458 Comments


Set Your Goals are clearly more worthy than Streetlight

paxman
February 23rd 2012
4084 Comments


I didn't know andcas was an idiot.

ShadowRemains
February 23rd 2012
20847 Comments


good on them

victory can suck a fat phallus

Blackbelt54
February 23rd 2012
4275 Comments


Can't wait for album this summer but I'm not gonna get my hopes up since they always procrastinate

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Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
February 23rd 2012
50458 Comments


Bandits of the Acoustic Revolution and Circle Takes The Square had the best albums of 2011 so I'm not worried


paxman
February 23rd 2012
4084 Comments


Well, I mean, if you can't leave, you can't leave. They're contractually bound to Victory. They could buy themselves out, or
find another record label that would have enough Faith in them to buy them out, though neither of these will ever
happen. They really have no alternative, other than to pull this stunt.

ZilbelPing
February 23rd 2012
6160 Comments


I liked the bit torrent joke. Good job on them boycotting themselves to get back at Victory.

Can't wait for the new album, even though it will probably take forever though.

paxman
February 23rd 2012
4084 Comments


Hugh Laurie as Gordon Freeman would rule

whywontyoudie
February 23rd 2012
3063 Comments


"i guess i'll keep boycotting this band, but for the reason that they are horrible"

but not really.

Ire
February 23rd 2012
41790 Comments


they could easily find a label willing to buy them out of their contract.


yeah i'm sure quoteunquote and asian man have the cash for this

Mickeymau5
February 23rd 2012
1614 Comments


" They really have no alternative, other than to pull this stunt."

Would breaking up and reforming as a new band work?

Ire
February 23rd 2012
41790 Comments


like god damn andcas you'd make the worst band manager ever

ohfoxxxycole
February 23rd 2012
4353 Comments


andcas we hate your avatar

Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
February 23rd 2012
50458 Comments


epitaph is calling

Scenegirlsdontbang
February 23rd 2012
106 Comments


" In regards to getting the music we make, you can buy directly from us, or, alternately, we're sure you can find a way to get the tunes onto your computer that may not be, ahem, traditional… Speaking a Bit metaphorically, there is a Torrent of methods to accomplish this, and Google is your always loyal friend..."

I like how they're basically saying to torrent their music if you'd like.

Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
February 23rd 2012
50458 Comments


Glassjaw said the same thing about their first album

chesse13
February 23rd 2012
3465 Comments


yeah and that was on roadrunner i believe

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Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
February 23rd 2012
50458 Comments


yeah, most bands seem to like Roadrunner, but I guess they were bitches to Glassjaw

AsoTamaki
February 23rd 2012
2525 Comments


Hahaha, andcas...

Is Streetlight Manifesto gonna bail all of their fans out of jail when they get arrested for illegally downloading the property of Victory Records? What an irresponsible band.

Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
February 23rd 2012
50458 Comments


lol

johnnyblaze
February 23rd 2012
2609 Comments


haha, awesome. love these guys.

but really, the situation theyre in sucks.

auberginedreams
February 23rd 2012
6034 Comments


"Is Streetlight Manifesto gonna bail all of their fans out of jail when they get arrested for illegally downloading the property of Victory Records?"

not sure if serious

Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
February 23rd 2012
50458 Comments


epitaph need to stop being shitty and go back to punk

Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
February 23rd 2012
50458 Comments


Epitaph is one of the best indie labels to be on

auberginedreams
February 23rd 2012
6034 Comments


"if they hate victory so much then why don't they leave."

"why did they sign with them in the first place knowing their rep."

"they could easily find a label willing to buy them out of their contract."

i'm starting to think andcas's avatar is a self-portrait. facepalming hard.



auberginedreams
February 23rd 2012
6034 Comments


thanks, i thought it was pretty clever.

J1996
February 23rd 2012
329 Comments


@Cipieron

Untrue.


Anyway new album yaaaaaaayayayayay!

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
February 23rd 2012
31223 Comments


None of it was logical in the slightest

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
February 23rd 2012
31223 Comments


Yes but it's more than just looking for a label who would want to sign them. SE could be signed to a 5 album deal, which means that the cost for breaking the contract would include a sum imagined by Victory to cover the losses that they would incur over the sales of those potential albums. And it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest to find out that Victory would have some kind of astronomical buyout provision written into SE's contract. You should honestly try using your head for once instead of just making noises dude

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
February 23rd 2012
31223 Comments


And if that provision isn't there they would then have to enter negotiations, and I'm pretty sure a label wouldn't want to give up one of its most popular band's without some kind of hefty payoff

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
February 23rd 2012
31223 Comments


It's an assumption based on the fact that they're still signed to this label

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
February 23rd 2012
31223 Comments


My guess is they're just trying to piss off the label enough in hopes that they'll tear up the contract and kick them out the door. Could backfire though

YouGotLucky
February 23rd 2012
946 Comments


''I guess I've learned that there's really no such thing as a bad label, there is only a bad contract.'' - Peter Steele

Why sign the contract?



Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
February 23rd 2012
50458 Comments


It was back in 2002 man, Victory didn't have a bad rep yet

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
February 23rd 2012
31223 Comments


Because who said there was anything wrong with the contract?

Sirob
February 23rd 2012
2653 Comments


Boycotting them shouldnt be too hard considering I probably wont have another release to buy from them within the next year or so.

dimsim3478
February 24th 2012
5092 Comments


Fuck the boycotting part. NEW ALBUM THIS SUMMER

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deathofasalesman
February 24th 2012
5847 Comments


Upcoming article: Counterparts asks for a boycott as well.

Sirob
February 24th 2012
2653 Comments


@dimsim

well thats what I'd like to think, but knowing them the chances are low that a summer release date is going to happen.

paxman
February 24th 2012
4084 Comments


"Would breaking up and reforming as a new band work?"

No. If you owe them an album, you owe them an album. You can't just dissolve the band. Like I said, and which Dev illustrated above better than I could, you could buy yourself out or woo another record company to buy you out, both of which are highly unlikely.

Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
February 24th 2012
50458 Comments


Greatest Hits albums are usually to finish record contracts

paxman
February 24th 2012
4084 Comments


Nice observation, trebor. I hadn't thought of that.

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
February 24th 2012
31223 Comments


Is Streetlight Manifesto gonna bail all of their fans out of jail when they get arrested for illegally downloading the property of Victory Records? What an irresponsible band.


Tbh, I wouldn't put this past a record label. But I'd be more worried about the band being sued

ohfoxxxycole
February 24th 2012
4353 Comments


they should just release more cover albums, a rarities/live album, and a greatest hits

Mickeymau5
February 24th 2012
1614 Comments


"No. If you owe them an album, you owe them an album. You can't just dissolve the band. Like I said, and which Dev illustrated above better than I could, you could buy yourself out or woo another record company to buy you out, both of which are highly unlikely."

So the band cant call a indefinite hiatus until they fulfill all of the required number of albums?

The Sludge
February 24th 2012
2169 Comments


I think what he's trying to say is if a band breaks up while still under contract, if they ever were to reform, they still are contractually obligated to put out that album. It's not some sort of loophole.

I'm all for this boycott. It might come off as a tad childish, but I always like to hear of a band who stands by their convictions.

Zo0lz
February 24th 2012
107 Comments


At least the band knows where they want to go...

Aids
Contributing Reviewer
February 24th 2012
23848 Comments


fuck Victory Records

and woah andcas, you're having an off day hey?

Thane
February 24th 2012
2167 Comments


i saw a really interesting interview with ben from TDEP where he talks about contracts and what to look out for and stuff, you should check it if you're into that stuff. shitty situation for the band, damn.

johnnyblaze
February 24th 2012
2609 Comments


i hope victory doesnt sue them. what they wrote is pretty slanderous.

but ya, new album this summer would be sweet

Spluger
February 24th 2012
1163 Comments



"I guess emmure doesn't mind considering they resigned like idiots."


Well I mean, what other label would want Emmure?

fish.
Contributing Reviewer
February 24th 2012
21970 Comments


apparently they'll be able to leave the label after they release their next album

LeftyStyley
February 24th 2012
44 Comments


They might of actually been contractually obliged before 2002. Catch 22 was signed to Victory and I know some label contracts state that any new project you work on has to be submitted to them first. If they do not want it then you can take it elsewhere.

myhigherpie
February 24th 2012
3027 Comments


Can't they just break up, wait a few months, then re-form under a different name? Or is that illegal/against the binding contract?

Oh nvm already answered in the thread.

paxman
February 24th 2012
4084 Comments


"So the band cant call a indefinite hiatus until they fulfill all of the required number of albums?"

That's a good question and one which, unfortunately, I can't answer with any degree of certainty. Despite my posturing, I
am no expert on the matter. Nevertheless, there is the possibility that no one could answer the question, unless one is
privy to the contents of the contract. Dev might know.

There is one important thing to know, though: once you sign their contract, you owe them a lot of money and you have to
provide it to them, otherwise they will sue you for breach of contract.

Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
February 24th 2012
50458 Comments


If Streetlight broke up then Victory would release a greatest hits I would assume

Spluger
February 24th 2012
1163 Comments


"they had an opportunity to move to sumerian records."

I could actually see them on that label too. You got me, haha.

Mickeymau5
February 24th 2012
1614 Comments


Record labels don't care who they sign, they care about how much money they can bring in.

Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
February 24th 2012
50458 Comments


Industry rule number four thousand and eighty
Record company people are shady

Mickeymau5
February 24th 2012
1614 Comments


"There is one important thing to know, though: once you sign their contract, you owe them a lot of money and you have to
provide it to them, otherwise they will sue you for breach of contract."

I thought it was based on the amount of albums that a band dishes out not the amount of records that sell.

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
February 25th 2012
31223 Comments


So the band cant call a indefinite hiatus until they fulfill all of the required number of albums?


The only way this would work would be if some kind of extraordinary circumstances were to take place, like half the band dying in some kind of freak accident - the proverbial act of god that can mitigate certain contractual stipulations. Other than that, no, not really. They could call some kind of "time out" if they want to, but as a band you've signed a form promising to deliver on product, and the label will be constantly reminding them of that. Imagine you're a contract worker on a temp contract for 6 months. That means you've signed a guarantee for a minimum of that time, you can't just walk into your boss's office after 3 months and say "you know what, don't really feel like doing this anymore" and not expect to be held in breach of contract.

The only way out of this, without running the risk of becoming indebted to a rather large record label (which no band wants), is to either churn out a hastily-assembled compilation album (and for all you know, their contract stipulates x amount of albums to constitute of entirely original material); or, to simply bite the bullet, finish up with their obligations and then go headhunting for a new home. If they end up in breach of their contract, the likeliest of outcomes is that Victory will retain all the material that SE put out while signed to them; the band will have no say in what the label does with them, and they'll never be able to re-release it again themselves

Needsmoarbreakdowns
February 27th 2012
109 Comments


Victory records should just go away...

Mickeymau5
February 27th 2012
1614 Comments


I see, guess theres pretty much no way to get away from it if they want to continue being a band. At least they are going through with it.

"If they end up in breach of their contract, the likeliest of outcomes is that Victory will retain all the material that SE put out while signed to them; "

That would be terribad.. The two options you presented seems to be the only logical ways to deal with this situation.. At least this sets up an example for future bands, in terms of avoiding Victory, and looking into the track record with other record labels in terms of how they treat their bands and such.

& Deviant; thanks for your intelligent reply.



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