New Nicki Minaj Video
2012-01-21 by andcas | 191 Comments

Young Money's superstar female rapper Nicki Minaj has
recently released a new music video for her next single
entitled "Stupid Hoe." The track will be featured on her
sophomore album Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded coming
February 14th, 2012.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6j4f8cHBIM

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MisterTornado
Contributing Reviewer
January 21st 2012

4130 Comments


Well, that was awful. Points for the appropriate song title.

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Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
January 21st 2012

48526 Comments


Would still hit it

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jayfatha
January 21st 2012

2882 Comments


Haha

auberginedreams
January 21st 2012

5981 Comments


Looks like the song is self-titled.

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


Pretty good rapping, just a pretty obnoxious chorus. She needs the sexier personality, tho.

inb4 RAH RAH RAH SHITTY POP SHE'S SUCH A TRASHY SLUT RAH RAH

auberginedreams
January 21st 2012

5981 Comments


RAH RAH RAH SHITTY POP SHE'S SUCH A TRASHY SLUT RAH RAH

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


oh and inb4 unfunny jokes of "HAHAHAHAHA I GUESS SHE DESCRIBES HERSELF WITH THE SONG TITLE HAHAHAHAH"--woops, too late

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


i h8 u

Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
January 21st 2012

48526 Comments


The only thing she should rap is her thighs around my torso


MisterTornado
Contributing Reviewer
January 21st 2012

4130 Comments


"Would still hit it"

And this is why she's going to continue to stay relevant, ruining as many guest spots as possible by milking the same wide-eyed bubblegum strut out of her giant silicon tits, no matter how bad the music gets.

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


^^ How was it Garbage? I don't like Pink Friday at all and the rapping in this wasn't bad whatsoever.

"BECAUSE IT'S CORPORATE MAINSTREAM BULLSHIT"

KjSwantko
January 21st 2012

8717 Comments


didn't click, knew it'd be bad

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


I think at some parts she tries too hard to be her "quirky self" mainly with the "you a stupid stupid ho" and the crazy voices part, but I stand by that the rest of the song is pretty good and the production is, to.

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


Dude andcas how can you even delete your comments like that?

zaruyache
January 21st 2012

4800 Comments


...but I stand by that the rest of the song is pretty good and the production is, to.


Are you stupid.

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Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
January 21st 2012

48526 Comments


lol gtfo. nicki minaj could rap "I gotta ass!" in her high pitched
voice for the whole song over a kazoo and you'd fucking love it.

Not enough songs have kazoo man

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


@andcas: lol what are you even taking about? It's due to the fact that the rapping she did had
genuinely clever wordplay and rhyme schemes.

@zary: No, why?

AsoTamaki
January 21st 2012

2525 Comments


Lol, gabe. Your gimmick is getting stale.

KjSwantko
January 21st 2012

8717 Comments


this was one of the most annoying things I've heard

Hospital
January 21st 2012

1875 Comments


The kazoo song that andcas made me audiolize(lol) was 1000x better than this


p.s. you stupid a hoe stupid stupid hoe

Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
January 21st 2012

48526 Comments


would rather listen to this on a loop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oau9gtG5Om8

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


@AsoTamaki: What gimmick

@andcas: Everywhere. Did you just hear none of the lyrics but the "you a stupid ho" part?

Basically, I think the song is good except it tries way way way too hard to have that "Nicki Minaj wacky girl" quality so some parts where she puts on voices or drag on words gets annoying. She did the "wacky personality" right in her feature on Big Sean's ASS Remix but didn't rap well on it but now that she's actually rapping well she pull it off in an ugh way.

KjSwantko
January 21st 2012

8717 Comments


maybe.

That guy's a kazoo slayer

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


"I get it crackin’ like a bare back"

"Cause I pull up and I’m stuntin’ but I ain’t a stuntman
Yes I’m rockin’ Jordan but I ain’t a jumpman
Bitches play the back cause they know I’m the front man
Put me on the dollar cause Im who they trust in"

"Hey yo, baby, fuck you and your EP
Who’s gassin’ this hoe? BP?"

Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
January 21st 2012

48526 Comments


she got a donk

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


TOLD HIM THAT PUSSY CLEAN
TOLD HIM THAT PUSSY SQUEAKY

but no yeah she's got an ass for dayyyys mayne.

JizzInMyPants
January 21st 2012

2360 Comments


ya this song pretty much sucks.

Haz
January 21st 2012

268 Comments


she rules

patman1001
January 21st 2012

1012 Comments


I'd hit her...in the face with a brick.

Imperial
January 21st 2012

1681 Comments


What a turd of a song/artist.

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


Anything I can do to give back to the pharmaceutical companies by causing lung cancer, andcas.

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


love this track. lol sputnik

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


"she has more dislikes than likes so obviously it's not just me."

the best logic

TooLateToGoBack
January 21st 2012

1672 Comments


I have never wanted to cause self-harm.

I do now.

Imperial
January 21st 2012

1681 Comments


love this track.

ಠ_ಠ

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


welp!

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


@andcas: I'm pretty sure the dislikes are due to a "raid" or some dumb thing since it appears to be mostly Lil Kim fans (this is a Lil Kim diss) or people saying "This is worse than Massive Attack" or "This is worse than Adele"

Calculate
January 21st 2012

1135 Comments


ahahahaha that was so good / beat is raw as fuck / i'd drop this in a set / not as good as A$$ though

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


really, though. watch this clip and listen to this track and tell me this girl doesn't have charisma.

like i don't give a shit about her ass but her "obnoxious persona" persona is strangely intoxicating. although the barbie bullshit borders on creepy sometimes – but hey, that's just one reason why she's interesting

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


@Calculate: A$$ was dope as fuck, mayne.

@conrad: Yeah, her personality shining through is a part of what makes her music so captivating and enjoyable, but at a certain point it can get grating. Like I said before, her feature on A$$ was a great example of her using the persona well. And on Kanye's Monster, of course.

Calculate
January 21st 2012

1135 Comments


i like when she sings

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


doesn't change the fact that using public opinion to objectively defend your point that something is terrible is stupid

the public is so often wrong

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


""the best logic" even her diehards think this is horrendous con."

ya but dude literally like 75% of the hate is Lil Kim supporters.

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


"a lot of people think this is worse than her other stuff so therefore it must be bad"

i mean if this is really how your critical faculties operate i don't know what to say or how you expect to convince others of your opinion? which you don't have to do! but you're citing the dislike/like bar as an example which indicates that you feel others should agree with you which just isn't the case

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


"ya but dude literally like 75% of the hate is Lil Kim supporters."

EVERYBODY IS MISSING THE POINT

also lil kim is pretty awesome so i wish the two fanbases would stop being fucking idiots

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


blah anyways fun track

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


"this song is honestly horrible"

funny i find it falsely terrible! funny how things work

Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
January 21st 2012

48526 Comments


ya but dude literally like 75% of the hate is Lil Kim supporters.

What? lil kim hasn't been around for years, how does she still have fans?

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


@conrad: I wasn't giving the like/dislike bar credibility, I was just telling him how even that wasn't a good argument.

but hey, different strokes for different stroke patients or something like that.

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


"What? lil kim hasn't been around for years, how does she still have fans?"

Same reason trashy white kids will still be armed at the teeth to defend Eminem's later, shittier stuff.

MisterTornado
Contributing Reviewer
January 21st 2012

4130 Comments


"What? lil kim hasn't been around for years, how does she still have fans?"

Same reason trashy white kids will still be armed at the teeth to defend Eminem's later, shittier stuff."

Though Eminem continues to sell records, Lil Kim, not so much. So not really.

JizzInMyPants
January 21st 2012

2360 Comments


@conrad

Oh yes, she has charisma and a unique style, but the song sucks.

Slum
January 21st 2012

2579 Comments


all of her music is trash

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


Who would be the other one, andcas?

I honestly don't know much about the female side of hip-hop beyond a certain group but I don't think
many rappers before her have done this. Pop stars, yeah but not rappers.

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


Mayyybe Missy Elliott?

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


Oh damn andcas called it.

DeathByDaydream
January 21st 2012

546 Comments


the blinky parts of that made me lol

Acanthus
January 21st 2012

9506 Comments


"Smell Yo Dick" was better title wise.

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keyboardxmosh
January 21st 2012

1007 Comments


dat booty

Tyrael
January 21st 2012

20394 Comments


'blah anyways fun track'

oh cmon Conrad :/

I used to think that she could turn into the first great female rapper but noooooo

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BonRurgundy
January 21st 2012

342 Comments


The sad thing is her verse on Kanye's 'Monster' was actually quite promising. She can clearly be a talented rapper, but
evidently wastes it all on shockingly terrible pop videos and ass implants.


fuckthatnoise
January 21st 2012

1479 Comments


Horrible song. Obnoxious rapping, obnoxious chorus, obnoxious beat, obnoxious everything.

fuckthatnoise
January 21st 2012

1479 Comments


A$$ was equally as terrible, but this has less ass and no interesting sample thrown in.

nnnope
January 21st 2012

418 Comments


i enjoyed listening to this
i did not enjoy watching

DraconForsaken
January 21st 2012

92 Comments


The sad thing is her verse on Kanye's 'Monster' was actually quite promising. She can clearly be a talented rapper, but
evidently wastes it all on shockingly terrible pop videos and ass implants. [2]

BSX
January 21st 2012

1630 Comments


The sad thing is her verse on Kanye's 'Monster' was actually quite promising. She can clearly be a talented rapper, but
evidently wastes it all on shockingly terrible pop videos and ass implants [3]

Just like Kesha . . .

Mabbitt
January 21st 2012

1240 Comments


She needs to gtfo.

derkaderka
January 21st 2012

52 Comments


At the end she claims to be the female Wheezy which is an accurate statement because yes, she indeed sucks just as bad as he does.

Evreaia
January 21st 2012

3739 Comments


"She needs to gtfo."

actually;
Tits or GTFO

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Hospital
January 21st 2012

1875 Comments


IM THE FEMALE WEEZY!!!

CrownOfMagnets
January 21st 2012

2190 Comments


fuck this bitch.

robertsona
Staff Reviewer
January 21st 2012

14884 Comments


seriously awesome

robertsona
Staff Reviewer
January 21st 2012

14884 Comments


rap SotY

Romulus
January 21st 2012

8371 Comments


man i could have scripted this thread before it happened. you guys are way predictable

robertsona
Staff Reviewer
January 21st 2012

14884 Comments


romulus you do agree that this song/music video is awesome though right

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


"A$$ was equally as terrible, but this has less ass and no interesting sample thrown in."
I didn't say she rapped amazingly well on A$$, but her "quirky" personality shone brilliantly on it without getting obnoxious.

"Horrible song. Obnoxious rapping, obnoxious chorus, obnoxious beat, obnoxious everything."
The pre-chorus is pretty well put-together and the rapping itself is well done. The beat isn't amazingly complex but it's kind of weird, really glossy and enjoyable.

Skoj
January 21st 2012

907 Comments


One of the worst songs I've listened to in a while, solely based on the chorus. If she didn't take it seriously, neither do I. Has the staying power of any Weird Al song.

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keyboardxmosh
January 21st 2012

1007 Comments


I hate this because it isn't backpack rap.

Timmons
January 21st 2012

561 Comments


this is why i hate the world.

keyboardxmosh
January 21st 2012

1007 Comments


Hot black chicks being eccentric?

Timmons
January 21st 2012

561 Comments


oh jesus fucking christ i actually feel sick listening to this shit.

keyboardxmosh
January 21st 2012

1007 Comments


Racist.

Timmons
January 21st 2012

561 Comments


it would actually be even more cringy if she was white

Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
January 21st 2012

48526 Comments


I just watched the music video for that song ass, and she did that thing with her ass that those bitches did from the wal mart rap
gross

keyboardxmosh
January 21st 2012

1007 Comments


wally wally wally wally wally wally world

i think y'all r ghey

Dogget
January 21st 2012

781 Comments


So fucking annoying. Plus her 'kooky' style makes it more obvious when she recycles lines or hooks.

She can only do guest spots.

Jellingman
January 21st 2012

356 Comments


Can't stand her and the other tools from young money.

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


^^
Yeah I guess they can't be as good as Milo.

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


Milo gets chased by student loans.

keyboardxmosh
January 21st 2012

1007 Comments


yeah descendents is way too underground for gabe

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


The Descend-who?

patman1001
January 21st 2012

1012 Comments


you two should just fight and get it over with

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


"don't worry. it's not obnoxious or void of talent. not your bag."

...
then why would anyone listen to it? That sounds awful.

"it's wrong to beat on girls or in this case homosexuals."
because you're scared of the feelings you have for me that might inflame if you touched my soft, supple skin.

Tyrael
January 21st 2012

20394 Comments


Guys

take your mildly disturbing arguments somewhere else please

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


like in BED

Can't be spammin up the Nicki Minaj articles, they're essential to Sputnik.

pizzamachine
January 21st 2012

12568 Comments


Song/video are as entertaining and ballsy as expected.

A+


zaruyache
January 21st 2012

4800 Comments


Just watched this again. Record company is out of its mind for letting this train wreck see the light of day.

Tyrael
January 21st 2012

20394 Comments


Song/video are as entertaining and ballsy as expected.

A+


you better fucking be trollin

pizzamachine
January 21st 2012

12568 Comments


I didn't click on the link expecting some high profile song (considering the song title), I expected to be entertained and I was.

Tyrael
January 21st 2012

20394 Comments


I expected to relive my lunch and I did

does that mean it's a good song

pizzamachine
January 21st 2012

12568 Comments


It's not a good song by any means, but 'twas enjoyable.

pizzamachine
January 21st 2012

12568 Comments


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l72ENC-s9A

botb
January 21st 2012

9281 Comments


gabe you defend literally the worst pop artists.

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Tyrael
January 21st 2012

20394 Comments


She gets my props for being able to make a song worse than 'Super Bass', I didn't think she was ever going to succeed in squandering her rapping talent even more

guess I was wrong

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


lol sputnik.

your conception of 'good music' is so stereotypically white heterosexual male

which isn't to say that disliking nicki minaj automatically puts you into that category but seriously guys c'mon, snap out of your clearly defined boxes for just one moment

that fuckin Bon Iver album wasn't even GOOD!!!!! ha!!!

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


it's as if the concept of a high-budget act being self-aware and essentially forcing YOU as the audience to realize the shallowness of the act totally escapes you

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


@bringonthebreakdown: I don't even like her pop, though. Except for maybe that one song with Drake but that was still hardly wasn't even pure "pop".

@Ty: Yeah, I was hoping Super Bass would actually have this pounding bass in the music and I was disappointed. This is wayyyyy better than Super Bass, though.

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


also this is so much better than anything on pink friday. like roman's revenge if it were good.

iambandersnatch
January 21st 2012

1451 Comments


her vids are what nightmares are made of. i'd hit it if she took off all the crazy clown makeup tho

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


i'm so happy for you andcas

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


lol at all the "I'd hit it" comments. she is not designed to be attractive.

Tyrael
January 21st 2012

20394 Comments


Dear Mr. Tao, I have always defended you and your tastes but now you're seriously pushing it. I have always tried to like Nicki Minaj because it was obvious that she's a talented rapper but the fact that 90% of her debut 'Pink Friday' was filled with obnoxious pop shit (don't get me wrong, I do like pop but not the 'supersweet & girly' or whatever is is she does kind). The fact that she continues to piss me off with terrible beats, shit production and godawful lyricism is fucking pissing me off and I can't hide it, I'm thorougly disappointed in her for being just another pop artist for whom I had high hopes but she just decided to raise her middlefinger towards me.

So yes Mr. Tao, I am fucking mad at her right now.

PS: Oh and yeah that Bon Iver album was seriously overrated.

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


Her "lyricism"? Did you expect her to be rapping about the problems on the streets? Her lyrics in this one are pretty dope.

also I can't wait for that Nicki Minaj x Clams Casino mixtape.

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


@andcas: You can be a satire and still be good. See: Roadrunner/Coyote cartoons which were originally a satire on the extreme violence of the Tom and Jerry cartoons.

Tyrael
January 21st 2012

20394 Comments


'Her lyrics in this one are pretty dope.'

dafuq


I get it crackin’ like a bag bag?
Bitch talkin she the queen, when she looking like a lab rat
I’m Angelina, you Jennifer
C’mon bitch, you see where Brad at


You call this dope?


conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


i don't think she's purposely trying to suck. but in the same way that ke$ha's music is weirdly astute, nicki's stuff often pokes fun at her disposition AND the fact that people buy into that. to me, that's more convincing than the many acts that try to act either coolly distant or embody the worst traits of whiny western pop/rock.

and here's the thing; i don't think the repeated "you a stupid hoe" really is godawful lyricism, because it's such a shallow insult that its constant repetition becomes (a) ironic and (b) slightly self-referential given the goofy, over-the-top image she and young money present.

captaincrunch11
January 21st 2012

1193 Comments


This bullshit blows

Tyrael
January 21st 2012

20394 Comments


but man

that beat must be one of the worst things I have ever heard

fucking obnoxious

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


i realize that not everyone is convinced by self-awareness ...in fact, a lot of people feel like it's a cop-out. i get that. but it's hard to call this "objectively" bad.

robertsona
Staff Reviewer
January 21st 2012

14884 Comments


super bass rules guys what the hell

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


"did you just compare iconic toons to nicki minaj? rage filing"
Well they are comparable so yes I did.

@Tyraelxy: bare back*
also, what's necessarily bad about them? And she has great wordplay (as you can see me quoting above) and the weirdness of the lyrics is just kind of surreal to a point. I mean what did you really expect?

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


"super bass rules guys what the hell"

yeah this, one of my favorite pop jams from last year

but in other words i fucking hate rockism because it's borne of the worst kind of music elitism, the one that argues for some impartial standard of quality

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


"she makes shallow shitty music for shallow shitty ppl. agreed."
How does liking music that might be shallow make the people that enjoy it shallow? idk u people are weird.

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


"you might as well defend icp and design the skyline with the same argument you're stretching for here. makes about as much sense to me."

sure, why not? i have ethical issues with icp but as a cultural phenomenon they're notable (their status as a meme takes precedence over their validity as musicians, though, which makes me question their actual value)

robertsona
Staff Reviewer
January 21st 2012

14884 Comments


i think of this track as almost subversive or something, fyi. this might sound like my bending backwards to make something "work" but i think its insistence on being devoid of what we usually associate with "great pop hits" makes it sort of circle back around to being awesome. it's...bizarre

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


^^
That's basically a big part of the appeal for me. But I think it made the whole "make it so weird that it works" thing was missed by a smidge since there are still some pretty cringeworthy parts here and apparently it went way over the public's head.

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


yeah it's the tiniest tiniest bit too over-the-top, but hey that's why you hire hype williams to do your video

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


"this is why popular music keeps getting dumber."

this is why there will always be people who insist on the existence of golden ages, despite the fact that they don't and never will exist.

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


YEAH MUSIC ON THE RADIO IS GARBAGE NOWADAYS NOT LIKE BACK IN THE GOOD OLD DAYS WITH MEANINGFUL MUSIC EVERYWHERE, THIS IS BECAUSE OF SOCIETY AND STUPIDITY AND SONGS ABOUT SUBJECT MATTERS I DON'T LIKE SHOULD BE BANNED BECAUSE THEY'RE THE CAUSE OF ENTROPY SINCE I DON'T LIKE THEM.

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


@conrad: I don't know, people just really love their rose-tinted glasses though don't they?

Hospital
January 21st 2012

1875 Comments


this thread is shit

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


^^ aren't you the guy who likes Hopsin?

@andcas: The I wanna watch you suck his dick line was probably made for humor but I'd sincerely doubt it's satire.

MyMentality
January 21st 2012

70 Comments


Spent more time scrolling down this page than listening to that crap.

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


Or it could be more like, "WHAT DO YOU MEAN WIZARD OF OZ WAS SYMBOLISM FOR POLITICAL ISSUES IN THE 1800S? IT WAS OBVIOUSLY ABOUT THEM TRYING TO GET TO A WIZARD TO TAKE DOROTHY BACK HOME, DUNKASS"

Vesper
January 21st 2012

3085 Comments


Conrad -

You've twice characterized the dislike of Nicki Minaj as a "western" attitude (once, a "white male heterosexual" attitude) in this thread.

What makes you think Nicki Minaj is not herself reinforcing these western/white, male heterosexual conventions?
I won't pretend to know much about her music, but from the lyrics I've heard and the way she presents herself, it certainly seems she is.
Even her last line about being the "female Wheezy" is problematic in that it defines her by a male standard.

Or is this all being done ironically? If so, I'm not so sure of its value, especially when it goes over the heads of most people, apparently.

Trebor.
Contributing Reviewer
January 21st 2012

48526 Comments


I heard Adele's next single is called "Fat Cunt"

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


"What makes you think Nicki Minaj is not herself reinforcing these western/white, male heterosexual conventions?"

i'm quite sure she is. which, yes, calls certain ethics into question, but in my view exploitation of these conventions is sometimes more effective than trying to actively change them.

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


I heard Adele's next single is called "Fat Cunt"


this got me

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


also it's worth noting that this is a pretty funny parody of the quintessential diss track

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


^ fair enough. not the first time i've heard that used as a counterargument – "oh you're just assuming that because i'm white/heterosexual/male/etc i'm wrong" – but if that's your train of thought i don't know what to say

Skrapyard
January 21st 2012

595 Comments


"i'm quite sure she is."

Oh, okay... That's settled, then.

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


or let's really get inflammatory and say that this whole attitude that the song being somehow worse because it appropriates demeaning insults traditionally used by men to debase women is the

exact

same

thing

as when people say that women dressing "like sluts" equates "asking for" rape or sexual assault

which is so clearly wrong.

but that's another conversation, i suppose.

mrsaturn123
January 21st 2012

6 Comments


That...was...I don't even know. I couldn't even make it through the first chorus. That was literally one of the most annoying sounds I've ever heard in my life.

Skrapyard
January 21st 2012

595 Comments


"or let's really get inflammatory and say that this whole attitude that the song being somehow worse because it appropriates demeaning insults traditionally used by men to debase women is the

exact

same

thing

as when people say that women dressing "like sluts" equates "asking for" rape or sexual assault

which is so clearly wrong."

Your troll is showing. Either that, your unbelievable stupidity.

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


it doesn't have to be a guilty pleasure, that's the thing! there's no objective standard of quality!

Vesper
January 21st 2012

3085 Comments


i'm quite sure she is. which, yes, calls certain ethics into question, but in my view exploitation of these conventions is sometimes more effective than trying to actively change them.

So does her intention to further promote a white, male, heterosexual standard not matter then, just your reading of it as an unintentional "exploitation" of those conventions?

That seems generous. And rather debasing of her sentience.

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


@conradtao: Slut walks are stupid and modern feminism is stupid.

@andcas: Not really. Just because we're actually discussing the song instead of going, "lol xD sux" doesn't mean we think it's this huge, amazing, deep effort. The fact that there are satirical elements really aren't hard to see and just a lot of it seems like your hatred for "trashy girl pop because it's not deep" or whatever clouds your judgement for seeing it for anything other than exactly that.

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


I don't think you hate all pop music. I don't genuinely know your opinion on every pop artist to exist but you do seem to have a bias towards female pop stars that are supposed to be "trashy" or something to you.

Hospital
January 21st 2012

1875 Comments


Yes gabe, i'm the guy who likes Hopsin. You dislike Hopsin yet ride all over Nicki Minajs' clit?

Consider me confused, no disrespect intended

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


and there's nothing wrong with you disliking this song. I'm not trying to say, "UGH IF YOU DON'T LIKE THIS SONG YOU MUST CLEARLY HAVE A BIAS", because you just have a different opinions and that's the great thing about music (it being subjective) but I'm just saying it does cloud your judgement at times.

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


@Hospital: I don't. I've actually said multiple times I don't like much of her music, or at least I don't like Pink Friday.(I love her personality, though) I just happen to think this song is okay and not "OMG THE WORST THING I EVER HEARD AGGGHH MY EARS xDD"

Hospital
January 21st 2012

1875 Comments


Understandable, but have you ever considered that her personality is nothing more than an elaborate rouse/gimmick?

Seems to me like she's starting to go overboard with the Lady Gaga-esque barbie shit.

Hospital
January 21st 2012

1875 Comments


and I know Hopsin has his gimmicks... so don't backfire my comment towards me!

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


if that's the case don't let me ever catch you bashing others for music taste


deal.

So does her intention to further promote a white, male, heterosexual standard not matter then, just your reading of it as an unintentional "exploitation" of those conventions?


i read her entire overly-sexualized shtick as a highly intentional exploitation of those conventions. that people read it as genuine is indicative that the satire isn't particularly well-articulated. that's a valid criticism. but just criticizing her for reinforcing unsavory cultural traditions is, in my view, only one side of the story.

i'm not reacting so much to the fact people dislike the song (although, since i do enjoy it i partially am) as much as to the objections people are voicing, which seem hollow to me. just as andcas said pizzamachine provided the best argument for liking the song, i think ty is the only person who provided good reasons for disliking it – "the beat is obnoxious, i hate the lyrics/wordplay," etc. but dismissing her pop presence/persona entirely strikes me as unfair.

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


anyways, i'd love to continue this conversation since it's interesting, but i don't have time to

nnnope
January 21st 2012

418 Comments


fair enough

gabethepiratesquid
January 21st 2012

4521 Comments


@Hospital: Oh I'm pretty sure it's moderately fake. She's probably a sweet girl in real life, and she is kind of trying way too hard to be "quirky". But she does have a oddity (artificial or not) that's kind of appealing in it's own sense.

Vesper
January 21st 2012

3085 Comments


Well, in case you do find time later -

Previously, you said you were sure she was promoting white, male, heterosexual conventions, but now you say she's intentionally exploiting those conventions. I don't quite see how she can both be supportive of those conventions but also satirizing them without her schtick becoming problematic or, at least, confusing.
Of course, I don't think this is something that can be made clear without Minaj's own clarification, but since a lot of people are taking her at face value, I do take issue with it.

As far as criticisms of her - and other female popstars - go, yes, I would agree that anybody who brings her appearance (i.e. "ass implants", "silicon tits") into criticism of her music pretty much negates his entire argument, as it hinges on some kind of degradation of her as being hyper-sexual/"slutty".

conradtao
Emeritus
January 21st 2012

2088 Comments


I don't think Minaj can properly exploit the predominantly heterosexual conventions defining her status in the pop arena unless she also promotes them - that is, caters to them, however superficially. That's promoting those values in my view, even if it's done with the intention of subversion.

Hospital
January 21st 2012

1875 Comments


@gabe

Appealing to you, maybe! Completely repulsive to me Each to his/her own

GraviVice9
January 21st 2012

38 Comments


I cant believe that no one addressed, "I an the female Weezy"!?

Hospital
January 21st 2012

1875 Comments


It was addressed, man. By me.

GraviVice9
January 21st 2012

38 Comments


I must have read the comments too fast. sorry

theashesfromautumn01
January 21st 2012

1031 Comments


why does this have so many comments?

beans
January 22nd 2012

2332 Comments


garbage

Exodus287
January 22nd 2012

43 Comments


That was fucking lame. This shit must end!

IAMERROR
January 22nd 2012

217 Comments


That was just obnoxious.

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LucasTrem
January 22nd 2012

52 Comments


We are in January, but this is the best song of the year.

And, yes, i'm back. Nobody remembers me.

LucasTrem
January 22nd 2012

52 Comments


The monkey was the best part LOL

The7thVermicide
January 22nd 2012

925 Comments


Ohhhhhh dear ,this is bullshit

krazytom
January 22nd 2012

121 Comments


I wanna touch that butt

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lancebramsay
January 22nd 2012

1585 Comments


singing about hoes while crawling around on all fours half naked.. I literally feel insulted watching it.

simonpettersen
January 22nd 2012

272 Comments


Ok, she's a guilty pleasure of mine. BUT, this is just plain BAD.

Dunpeal
January 23rd 2012

3571 Comments


sex tape or GTFO

Horsehammer
January 23rd 2012

550 Comments


who gives a flying fuck.

pedro70512
January 23rd 2012

1855 Comments


"Stupid Hoe" sounds like a elegy to Spinal Tap's drummer.

Jamatha
January 23rd 2012

108 Comments


well nicki wins again :P nice publicity guys

sailSAway
January 26th 2012

812 Comments


i rly dont mind this. conradtao is on to something.

robertsona
Staff Reviewer
January 26th 2012

14884 Comments


yeah nickelback really coulda been somethin huh

Yazz_Flute
January 30th 2012

18735 Comments


You guys are all stupid gardening tools. Cultivate my earth motherfuckers.

F{HBSW_)GBH_)GHWE_)GHWGHW

Digging: Anekdoten - Vemod

DoABarrelRoll
February 9th 2012

342 Comments


Arguments are fun

suppatime
February 9th 2012

428 Comments


ohhhh shit i love sequel albums! hopefully it'll be as good as The Blueprint III!

Funeralopolis
February 9th 2012

10439 Comments


Wtf this news article has 2 pages???? I didn't know that was possible.

Digging: CunninLynguists - Oneirology

Yazz_Flute
February 9th 2012

18735 Comments


The misspelling of "ho" as "hoe" is one of my hugest pet-peeves for whatever reason. It's fucking stupid because it's just a slang-term regardless, but almost everybody does it.

Kris.
February 9th 2012

11366 Comments


oh my god its so bad

gabethepiratesquid
February 10th 2012

4521 Comments


I still dig it.

"The misspelling of "ho" as "hoe" is one of my hugest pet-peeves for whatever reason. It's fucking stupid because it's just a slang-term regardless, but almost everybody does it."
Oh my god I'm the exact same. It's like "YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GARDENING TOOLS AND THERE'S NO E DIRECTLY AFTER THE O IN WHORE"

Yazz_Flute
February 10th 2012

18735 Comments


It's really fitting as a tongue-in-cheek way of saying "I'm legitimately a fucking idiot who doesn't know how words work AND I like dick all up in me."

Tyrannic
February 10th 2012

3224 Comments


man wtf i liked that verse she had on that wobblewobble tyga song...

man my wallet look like a bible.

gabethepiratesquid
February 10th 2012

4521 Comments


Don't you mean Big Sean song?

ncguitar
February 21st 2012

2190 Comments


Shit, I hadn't seen this before. FUCK YOU SPUTNIKMUSIC FOR DOING THIS TO ME.

Aphrodisiac
February 29th 2012

1739 Comments


awesome song












u a stupid how u a stupid how



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