TMV trying new angle for LP 6
2010-04-23 by oathfbass | 90 Comments

After having released a new movie, band leader, Omar Rodriguez-Lopez says he has learned a valuable lesson about teamwork that he hopes to bring back to his music.

They call him "little Hitler." That's because Omar RodrĂ*guez-LĂłpez – half of the brain trust behind the Mars Volta – likes to play dictator in the studio, obsessively controlling his fellow musicians' every move, every note. Or at least, he used to. Now that he's premiering his directorial debut The Sentimental Engine Slayer at New York's Tribeca Film Festival this week, RodrĂ*guez-LĂłpez says that the experience has taught him a valuable lesson – "how to play well with others" – which he hopes to bring back to his music. "It's one small step for me, one large step for my ego," he says.

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Now that he's returned his attention to music – he's not working on three side projects in addition to the Mars Volta -- RodrĂ*guez-LĂłpez is trying to learn to loosen his grip in the studio. Usually, when he's done with the music, he gives it to singer Cedric Bixler-Zavala with a story and a concept and then oversees the writing of the lyrics. This time, for the band's sixth album, he's just passed the tracks along – no story, no notes – and is trying to be patient while Bixler-Zavala writes, without pressure, for the first time.

"This is very hard for me," RodrĂ*guez-LĂłpez tells Rolling Stone, "and there's not a day where I look at the phone and don't want to call him, asking, 'You got something? Come on!' This is my first challenge, to let him do it at his own pace. He's always painted by what I told him, and I didn't say anything. I want his stories."

Though he admits it's been hard to break the habit ("I've had 10 years of being a dictator"), RodrĂ*guez-LĂłpez says he's seeing the benefits of loosening his grip already. "From 2002 to 2007, I cannot tell you how unfun it must have been to be around me," he says. "I worked from 11 in the morning until 2 in the morning, no breaks, no going out for lunch, no days off. I drove an engineer mad. Another renounced me. I understand it now. And now, I stop, I eat lunch, I play with the dog, and I get four times as much done now than when I was choking it to death. Now I come back invigorated. I'm definitely happier."


TMV has recently fired their former drummer Thomas Pridgen due to disputes between him and Cedric and are currently touring with David Elitch which could delay their next album.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/;kw=[13193,132434]

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oathfbass
April 23rd 2010

388 Comments


I'm pretty stoked now

TheSpirit
April 23rd 2010

17184 Comments


I mean they've always sucked, but now they'll probably suck more with the changed approach

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sniper
April 23rd 2010

18982 Comments


Disagree on both accounts.

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NebSnurb
April 23rd 2010

535 Comments


Omar pisses me off. Maybe this will make me less annoyed with him.

vincevega
April 23rd 2010

48 Comments


could be good

qwe3
April 23rd 2010

21353 Comments


TMV definitely doesn't suck

PanasonicYouth
April 23rd 2010

7411 Comments


yeah this could be a fantastic thing
maybe their new album won't suck so horribly like octahedron did

qwe3
April 23rd 2010

21353 Comments


octahedron ruled wtf

TMobotron
Contributing Reviewer
April 23rd 2010

7026 Comments


Jesus this made him sound like he's been annoying as fuck. But I have VERY high hopes for this.

Acre
April 23rd 2010

847 Comments


I'm hopeful. I've always thought that with such a talented band Omar needed to allow others to contribute more to the songwriting process.

taxidermist
April 23rd 2010

7195 Comments


I'm just waiting for the new Volta record

PanasonicYouth
April 23rd 2010

7411 Comments


octahedron was so fucking boring

taxidermist
April 23rd 2010

7195 Comments


Cotopaxi's pretty down

I haven't listened to the rest

Lions
April 23rd 2010

1015 Comments


let's hope they still kick ass. but lord knows they will.

lauriej
April 23rd 2010

1711 Comments


yeah im with qwe octahedron kicked ass, you guys just dont get it

yetanotherprofile
April 23rd 2010

180 Comments


I thought Oxtahedron was horrible, but i'l give them another listen. I just cannot forget Francis and Commatorium.

taxidermist
April 23rd 2010

7195 Comments


I will never forget Frances. That album has had me hooked since the first time I heard it...which was when I was eating rice lol.

qwe3
April 23rd 2010

21353 Comments


frances was so fucking bad lmao

taxidermist
April 23rd 2010

7195 Comments


Blasphemy!

PuddlesPuddles
April 23rd 2010

4767 Comments


Bedlam rocks circles around Frances, I hope theyre done with that wanking

sniper
April 23rd 2010

18982 Comments


Frances rules, but to each his own I guess. I really don't know how this will work out.

taxidermist
April 23rd 2010

7195 Comments


Oh well, to each his own



taxidermist
April 23rd 2010

7195 Comments


Ha right when I typed my last comment and posted it, I saw sniper01's comment and we said the same shit lol

qwe3
April 23rd 2010

21353 Comments


woah hivemind

Enotron
April 23rd 2010

7695 Comments


Am I the only one who got an erection right when seeing the title?

So yeah I'm incredibly pumped.

taxidermist
April 23rd 2010

7195 Comments


Totally

taxidermist
April 23rd 2010

7195 Comments


Don't worry Enotron...mines is still up

AnotherBrick
April 23rd 2010

9770 Comments


always be excited for a new album

sniper
April 23rd 2010

18982 Comments


Weird shit indeed.

PaleCompanion
April 23rd 2010

154 Comments


Pridgen was fucking tits, too bad they got rid of him

sniper
April 23rd 2010

18982 Comments


Meh, Theodore was better.

taxidermist
April 23rd 2010

7195 Comments


Same here

Theodore's drumming was better

Enotron
April 23rd 2010

7695 Comments


Well they did make their best three records with Theodore

sniper
April 23rd 2010

18982 Comments


Definitely. Their quality dropped off pretty steeply after he left imo.

Valle
April 23rd 2010

49 Comments


I'm hopeful for this record. I thought Octahedron was okay at best.

Athom
Staff Reviewer
April 23rd 2010

17200 Comments


kris you're a fucking retard. octahedron was great.

Enotron
April 23rd 2010

7695 Comments


Octahedron was an excellent release, but it was a tad bit underwhelming(or at least compared to earlier releases).

sniper
April 23rd 2010

18982 Comments


It was goodish.

qwe3
April 23rd 2010

21353 Comments


ROCKO'S MODERN LIFE

adam you rule

G3N3R1C
April 23rd 2010

1945 Comments


Deloused and Octahedron are tied for their best album imo. Frances was a bit.... overbearing. Amputecture was awesome, but not as much as Deloused and Octa. Bedlam was a complete mess.... it was a GREAT mess, but still. I would love to see another album like Octahedron. Those guys really proved that they can do soft songs pretty damn well.

SetTrip
April 23rd 2010

30 Comments


My subjective opinion needs to be professed! I'm just a dick with a keyboard, but Omar puts out alot of bullshit and is clearly a dickhead; judging from how he puts his albums together, and how prolific he is as a artist. but it isnt even art because I dont appreciate it. he's just a arrogant fuck, you've seen him in those interviews; ya know where he lets cedric do all the talking and shit, but clearly is pressing his ego on everyone in the room the entire time.
Lick me sack to ass because im the most objective, insightful, and clever collection of molecules out there.

sniper
April 23rd 2010

18982 Comments


it isnt even art because I dont appreciate it

No.

Ire
April 23rd 2010

41749 Comments


octahedron was so fucking boring


Fuck you GoldTeethOnABum

Octahedron is the shit!

Enotron
April 23rd 2010

7695 Comments


Is doesn't matter what his fucking personality is you idiot. It's the actual fucking music that matters.

SetTrip
April 23rd 2010

30 Comments


hyperbole

oathfbass
April 23rd 2010

388 Comments


Octahedron was amazing; Teflon, Halo,Desperate Graves,etc.... all good stuff

And I can't wait for this, I just hope they find a new drummer soon, because Dave.....well just look up his youtube videos of him playing with them.

PirateSquid
April 23rd 2010

1881 Comments


All of their albums kicked serious ass.

And I dunno how this could be. Maybe it was Omar's dictatorship making them good?

We'll see =o

CushMG15
April 23rd 2010

1802 Comments


That could be the case. But even in groups that I've worked with (playing or engineering), I've found that 99% of people with that kind of attitude are usually better of when (if) they loosen up. Their a nightmare to work with, which I find hinders the final product.

But of course, there are always exceptions.

LegendofPittman
April 23rd 2010

2943 Comments


Octahedron was great imo.
I am excited about this, maybe they will now be more focused and not rushed.

po0ty
April 23rd 2010

486 Comments


I have to be high to listen to Octahedron and enjoy it. That or I listen to it when falling asleep.

Ire
April 23rd 2010

41749 Comments


I have to be high to listen to Octahedron and enjoy it. That or I listen to it when falling
asleep.


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StrizzMatik
April 24th 2010

3176 Comments


This might be good or bad. Omar is most definitely an arrogant asshole and has been since way before TMV, but he is an insanely talented asshole and responsible for most of what you hear on their records. On the other hand, the guy is kind of a musical idiot and letting the other guys who are clearly of a higher technical/musicianship level take the reins a bit more is probably a good idea.

People are still all over FTM's nuts? Frances is probably one of the most overrated albums of the last decade or so. I know, I know, OMG teh concept! 30 minutes of ambient masturbation is so deep n artistical! You just don't "get" it! Fuck all of that. DITC blows that shit away half-way through the runtime. Why? Because they wrote actual SONGS back then (thanks to Rick Rubin keeping Omar's ass in line to an extent), a trait they only recently starting showing again on TBIG and Octohedron

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jlaw
April 24th 2010

2 Comments


This might be good or bad. Omar is most definitely an arrogant asshole and has been since way before TMV, but he is an insanely talented asshole and responsible for most of what you hear on their records. On the other hand, the guy is kind of a musical idiot and letting the other guys who are clearly of a higher technical/musicianship level take the reins a bit more is probably a good idea.

People are still all over FTM's nuts? Frances is probably one of the most overrated albums of the last decade or so. I know, I know, OMG teh concept! 30 minutes of ambient masturbation is so deep n artistical! You just don't "get" it! Fuck all of that. DITC blows that shit away half-way through the runtime. Why? Because they wrote actual SONGS back then (thanks to Rick Rubin keeping Omar's ass in line to an extent), a trait they only recently starting showing again on TBIG and Octohedron


Here Here!

Prophet178
April 24th 2010

6397 Comments


but he is an insanely talented asshole and responsible for most of what you hear on their records. On the other hand, the guy is kind of a musical idiot


Wait, what?

Ire
April 24th 2010

41749 Comments


OMG teh concept!


GeoffJesterPemberton
April 24th 2010

209 Comments


Transient jet lag echo mimed bison.

StrizzMatik
April 24th 2010

3176 Comments


By calling him a musical idiot, I meant his actual technical knowledge, which he admits himself is pretty much nil. Doesn't mean he's not a fantastic musician (Jimi Hendrix never took a lesson in his life either), but his compositional skills are hit-or-miss. You can hear as much on just about anything he's played on, the dude hits random fucked up notes like it's his job

MrGlass
April 24th 2010

326 Comments


I stand by bedlam as my personal favorite from these guys. barely though.

regardless, I'm excited for new material and omar's new life realizations yeayea!!!1

taxidermist
April 24th 2010

7195 Comments


Both DITC and Frances are great albums imo

I just found Frances to be better

I think DITC is more overrated than Frances though



El_Goodo
April 24th 2010

1008 Comments


This gives me hope for the next album. De-Loused was pretty good, Frances The Mute was fucking mindblowing, Amputechture had some moments (I really liked the opening track), The Bedlam In Goliath the only track I could really bring myself to listen to was Goliath and Octahedron I pretty much have only listened to Since We've Been Wrong.

You might be able to tell I like it when they actually write a song with parts, there's nothing wrong with a hooky chorus Mars Volta! The Widow, Televators and L'via L'viaquez are all fucking awesome songs that still have some type of hook. The last three albums have had maybe 1 song and then just pure crazyness. I really want to enjoy a new album fully, but I just can't!

And I am also one of those people waiting for an At The Drive-in reunion...that would be sick. Napoleon Solo!!!

oathfbass
April 24th 2010

388 Comments


DITC is definitely their most overrated album, but I agree with a lot of what else he said since I think Omar should let the other musicians have a say in the song writing process. Too bad Thomas wont be there to help

StrizzMatik
April 24th 2010

3176 Comments


You might be able to tell I like it when they actually write a song with parts, there's nothing wrong with a hooky chorus Mars Volta! The Widow, Televators and L'via L'viaquez are all fucking awesome songs that still have some type of hook. The last three albums have had maybe 1 song and then just pure crazyness. I really want to enjoy a new album fully, but I just can't!

QFT. Take The Veil is probably my personal favorite TMV song, probably because it reminded me of how much better ATDI was

Alien Six
April 24th 2010

80 Comments


So if one day Omar walked into their practice space and said "Hey guys, let's just play and see what happens," would everyone's heads explode?

againstk
April 24th 2010

22 Comments


Bring Theodore Back, sure there are just as many quality drummers in any open mic jazz bar in the streets of cities.. but Theodore has been there and it fit well.

taxidermist
April 24th 2010

7195 Comments


Take The Veil Cerpin Taxt is a great song

sniper
April 25th 2010

18982 Comments


That's a dumb demand chambered.

taxidermist
April 25th 2010

7195 Comments


Provide me with a gun

Zizzer
April 25th 2010

915 Comments


Anybody else see what Omar's doing here? He's going to look good either way: If the new album is good he'll be praised for encouraging the others to add more of their own input, and if it gets bad reviews people will just praise him for how good the previous albums were.

like a cat
April 26th 2010

133 Comments


wow i didn't know Omar was a douche. He really got me by letting Cedric talk through all the interviews.

okcomputer1016
December 5th 2010

73 Comments


Octahedron was a piece of shit. I hope their next album will be more Bedlam sounding.

brocoy
December 13th 2010

26 Comments


de-loused > frances > bedlam > octahedron > amputechture

hopefully the new one will be at least better than bedlam

stabbler
May 14th 2011

1415 Comments


amputechture>frances>de-loused>bedlam>octahedron

first three all classics so it's moot

stabbler
May 14th 2011

1415 Comments


and the other 2 are still great albums, though octahedron def starts to fall away from their peerless standard

taxidermist
May 14th 2011

7195 Comments


Old news is old. Still waiting for that LP, though. You seen this stabbler? Idk if it's a confirmed TMV song since people always get the stories mixed up, but if it is...song is sweet!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRgkqMtRLtM


Ire
May 14th 2011

41749 Comments


i wont care about this album until john hanson reviews it and gives it a 4 or higher


G3N3R1C
May 14th 2011

1945 Comments


Yeah, i've seen that vid before. Kinda sounds like in/casino/out-era ATDI with cedric's improved vocals.

in other words, if that's what the whole album is gonna sound like, it'll kick ass.

taxidermist
May 14th 2011

7195 Comments


"i wont care about this album until john hanson reviews it and gives it a 4 or higher"

He showed me this the day it came out. He loved it. I think I see a positive review in the future.

Ire
May 14th 2011

41749 Comments


DO KNOTT

CARE

i will listen when i see

John Hanson STAFF
4.0 excellent
Wasn't this supposed to be a collaborative album why is there guitar and stuff and why is it so good?


AnotherBrick
May 14th 2011

9770 Comments


how the hell did i miss this the first time it was posted?

AnotherBrick
May 14th 2011

9770 Comments


wait, never mind

Ire
May 14th 2011

41749 Comments


oh hey ya brick likes volta i forgot about that


ur cool again cuz u like frances the mute aka the best album not titled abbey road

Satellite
May 14th 2011

20685 Comments


the one new tmv song i heard sounds very atdi-ish.

so fucking stoked.

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AnotherBrick
May 14th 2011

9770 Comments


cool again? when did the not cool part happen?

Ire
May 14th 2011

41749 Comments


rawr

taxidermist
May 14th 2011

7195 Comments


FTM is still the best.

CrownOfMagnets
May 14th 2011

2232 Comments


octahedron is still the worst.

JAV
May 14th 2011

1921 Comments


Soooo it's gonna be overrated like a mug is all I'm seeing.

CrownOfMagnets
May 15th 2011

2232 Comments


like a boss

SabertoothMonocle
March 6th 2012

493 Comments


It's here

oathfbass
March 6th 2012

388 Comments


It's amazing.



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