SlMBOLlC
11.29.12 | didnt include n64 cause to hard to choose |
Fluttertrank
11.29.12 | ew battlefield 3 wtf. but yeah cool list man. |
apert
11.29.12 | BF2>>>>>>>>>>BF3 |
Chortles
11.29.12 | your pic makes me queef a little bit |
Calc
11.29.12 | none of these are bad but you calling them elite is stupid. |
Fluttertrank
11.29.12 | battlefield Vietnam = the best battlefield. |
ThroneOfAgony
11.29.12 | lol 9 |
KSK1
11.29.12 | Props for 4 that was my shit back in the day. Also glad to see someone who thinks The original modern warfare is the best.
And agreed BF2>3 |
Lakes
11.29.12 | list is the furthest thing from elite |
Fluttertrank
11.29.12 | yeah cod 4 is actually really good. |
apert
11.29.12 | everyone thinks the original modern warfare is the best |
ThroneOfAgony
11.29.12 | I think i'm the only one that has liked COD WAW the most |
KSK1
11.29.12 | Yeah it has the best maps of any COD game imo. I agree these aren't really "elite" though |
Calc
11.29.12 | yeah thats not exactly a risky stand to take... |
KSK1
11.29.12 | "everyone thinks the original modern warfare is the best"
I know so many people who think MW2 is |
demigod93
11.29.12 | great games here but i dont think any of em would be in my top ten. you also chose the worst Ratchet man the hell! |
SlMBOLlC
11.29.12 | nah playing with a platoon once you're good at bf3 was amazing. it was pretty shit at first but once i was good it ruled. and yeh list is elite lakes shutup |
Hyperion1001
11.29.12 | play good games like planescape torment |
SlMBOLlC
11.29.12 | ffx =greatest game ever
ratchet 3 ruled so hard
and cod4 was the best |
demigod93
11.29.12 | oh wait thats Ratchet 3 not 2 nvm youre cool |
apert
11.29.12 | "I know so many people who think MW2 is"
i hate MW2 so much, even COD3 is better imo |
apert
11.29.12 | yeah Ratchet 3 is best |
KSK1
11.29.12 | COD 2 and 3 are both great lol. MW2 was good but not as good as COD 4 and MW3 sucks hard |
Fluttertrank
11.29.12 | "ffx =greatest game ever"
OMG... no. what the fuck. you like that piece of shit. go play real rpgs. lol. just no dude, you need some recs bro. |
Calc
11.29.12 | FFX was good but there's much better RPG's |
demigod93
11.29.12 | agreed, how about some ff6 and 7, or Chrono Trigger man! |
Fluttertrank
11.29.12 | FFX sucks big cock. ugh i hate them. and its stupid fucking characters.
"agreed, how about some ff6 and 7, or Chrono Trigger man!"
no more like Neverwinter Nights, Baldurs Gate II, Fallout 2, Divine Divinity, and like Hyperion1001 said Planescape Torment. |
Calc
11.29.12 | lol and its an east vs west RPG battle |
Fluttertrank
11.29.12 | i love eastern RPGs. like FF7, Chrono Trigger and Tales of Vesperia. but honestly western is where its at. |
apert
11.29.12 | i don't think i've played any JRPGs unless you count dark souls and demon souls |
Fluttertrank
11.29.12 | hmm i may self wouldnt, they play like western RPGs. JRPGs to me are like Final Fantasy or something. |
foxblood
11.29.12 | no sega genesis/no snes/no elite |
apert
11.29.12 | yeah i wouldn't really count them, never really liked the look of FF so haven't tried anything in genre |
Calc
11.29.12 | JRPG's are japanese RPG's so yes those two games count |
demigod93
11.29.12 | "agreed, how about some ff6 and 7, or Chrono Trigger man!"
dude i was talking about JRPG's
also foxblood agreed hard, snes is my favourite console |
Lakes
11.29.12 | arcanum! might and magic VI and VII! |
SlMBOLlC
11.29.12 | bollocks. ffx is easily my favorite bar none |
Lakes
11.29.12 | i've seen a ridiculously long LP of FFX by spoony and god that game looks absolutely awful |
Fluttertrank
11.29.12 | bullshit the game sucks so hard. fucking hate it! and yeah lakes everything spoony says is right, no lie. my cousin and his friends would play that when they were younger. i hated the characters. |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | lol this list, some great games on it but 8 is the only elite one
are you kidding with 9 |
Lakes
11.29.12 | tidus lol |
demigod93
11.29.12 | what the hell makes a game "elite" that seems really pretentious |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | elite gaming is trve shut up |
demigod93
11.29.12 | kvlt gaming only |
Fluttertrank
11.29.12 | proggy what do you think of FFX? |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | i dont like jrpgs, never got into anything final fantasy related. never will |
Calc
11.29.12 | "what the hell makes a game "elite" that seems really pretentious"
exactly why calling any of these elite sounds fuking stupid. |
Lakes
11.29.12 | i'm elite as fvck, got an account over at rpg codex |
Fluttertrank
11.29.12 | hmm nice. haha.
have you played Neverwinter Nights? |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | neverwinter 2 gets a lot of mixed reception in rpg community, i thought it was great |
Fluttertrank
11.29.12 | hmm not the biggest fan of it. i like it. but the 1st one is a fucking classic though. one of the 1st rpg's i played when i was 6 years old lol. |
Lakes
11.29.12 | neverwinter nights 2 OC is unbearably awful, i gave up halfway through chapter 2, couldn't stand the trash mobs anymore |
Lakes
11.29.12 | i loved the original neverwinter nights though. |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | never played 1, 2 was one of my first rpg's as a kid though. idr much about it other than i rlly liked playing it, recently i read most of the story online and it was pretty bad but whatever, part of my childhood |
ApexPredator
11.29.12 | Arkahm city/asylum are the only ones I truly love here skyrim and crash bandicoot of course and why FF X? It's all about VI |
Fluttertrank
11.29.12 | "was pretty bad but whatever, part of my childhood"
yeah thats understandable. just like the 1st one for me. though pretty much the 1st one is seen as a classic. you honestly need to play the 1st one. so good. especially if you like D&D influenced rpgs. |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | lakes do you play any horror titles or only elite rpgs, i mean its cool if u dont cause elite rpg gaming forever but do you play anything else |
Lakes
11.29.12 | the 1st nwn is great. i loved the way the character portraits looked in that game, the art style was nice. the toolkit was easy to use and very fun to mess around with too |
Lakes
11.29.12 | i only basically play rpgs neutral, i mean i am a beast at rock band but beside's that eh
i used to play RTS's a lot, like rise of nations and age of mythology |
Fluttertrank
11.29.12 | yeah i loved the toolkit. dude that game is so good, going to re-install right now lol. |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | yea i probs should. icewind dale ruled and i played baldurs gate 2 as a kid. sucked at it and dont remember much about it, but in a few weeks i will be getting baldurs gate enhanced edition and im gonna play through it. i wanna finish demons souls and new vegas first though. |
Lakes
11.29.12 | i can't get nwn to run on windows 7 for the life of me. |
Fluttertrank
11.29.12 | hmm yeah NWN 1 is like icewind dale and BG2 in ways.
ah yeah? i bet, thankfully i still use my XP. fucking love XP haha. cant get rid of it. |
Lakes
11.29.12 | i have never played the infinity engine games, which is weird because i know they're pretty much considered a rite of passage for rpg fans |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | best art style in an rpg
demons souls, even possibly over morrowind
seriously lakes i know you only like insanely nerdy basement dweller rpgs (not a bad thing really lol most of em rule) but theres some great rpgs in todays scene if you look hard enough. Most of them aren't as deep or complex in their actual difficulty or roleplaying elements as the trve ones, but there's still some fucking great ones still being made |
gwynbleidd
11.29.12 | PFFFFFFFT
You call this elite how ghey r u |
Lakes
11.29.12 | i really dislike RTWP combat, i much prefer turn based tbh |
Fluttertrank
11.29.12 | yeah agreed proggy. i like a lot of new RPGs.
also lakes play Planescape: Torment, now. haha. |
Lakes
11.29.12 | oh i know that thunder, i'm kind of enamored with some old ones right now and i want to finish them so i can feel accomplished lol |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | only infinity engine game i have yet to play is planescape. i obvs wanna replay the baldurs gates (ill do 1 soon and 2 when enhanced comes out) and i havent played dale in a while, but planescape i never touched. its usually considered a masterpiece and i really really really wanna play that fucking game. |
Lakes
11.29.12 | i will try PS:T after i finish might and magic vi, which should be soon enough |
gwynbleidd
11.29.12 | "i really dislike RTWP combat, i much prefer turn based tbh"
I think i prefer it too, the problem is when you have to wait for Y character to move, get to X, swing his sword and then miss. |
Fluttertrank
11.29.12 | oh yeah Might and Magic? never played any of those. |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | and yea lakes i kno shit gamers r like DUDE TRUE RPGS LIKE DRAGON AGE AND MASS EFFECT AND OBLIVION AND FABLE 3 so most elites like us want to discredit modern rpgs cause all those games suck cock but dude
demons souls, dark souls
witcher 1 and 2
torchlight series
bastion
|
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | gotta be honest lakes....im sure might and magic rules. ive seen gameplay and i know its trve. but for the love of god im a goddamn nerd but if i play that game i feel like my gf will break up with me lol |
Fluttertrank
11.29.12 | oh god... fable 3 are people fucking stupid. lol. |
Lakes
11.29.12 | definitely play might and magic vi flutter, it's a great game. it's like a party based/turn based elder scrolls |
Fluttertrank
11.29.12 | oh like the old ones? hmm i might. |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | i gotta play
arcanum
planescape
baldurs gate games (again)
finish dark souls
finish new vegas
put 600 more hours into morrowind (best game evr)
play more witcher 1
finish demons souls completely
goddamn it |
Lakes
11.29.12 | might and magic iii through v are playable, they're 2d cell-based dungeon crawlers basically
vi is when the series went 3d and it's challenging but pretty accessible compared to the older ones.
definitely check out MM VI through VIII |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | im mad my morrowind broke it crashes every time i play now GOD FUCKING DAMMIT |
Lakes
11.29.12 | that sucks, i have mgso 3.0 and it rarely crashes, nowhere near as much as it did vanilla |
JoshTh
11.29.12 | ape escape will always be the most elite game ever
|
Fluttertrank
11.29.12 | hmm never played it. |
Lakes
11.29.12 | "it's like a party based/turn based elder scrolls" |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | yeah lakes i have mgs 3.0. i tried to change settings and i got the common error where it doesn't apply fully. so i reinstalled morrowind and it still doesnt work, the game crashes every two seconds. its really annoying. and ape escape 1 best game of all time 5/5/5/5 |
Lakes
11.29.12 | sucks.
btw neutral, i'm making considerable progess on my rpg. i'm going to be overhauling the beginning part of the story soon then i'll be moving on to the rest of it
i also just released a new version with some expanded quests/slower leveling speed and a lot of balance fixes |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | thats cool, me and my bro were thinking of using rpg maker 2003 to try to make a fun little game. he has experience programming basic shit if he has the game engine and im a creative writing major and have a lot of experience with rpgs so i thought that combo would make a cool little gay game
urs was pretty trve, i mean pretty gay but trve hard
and u outdid bethesda in the complexity department |
Lakes
11.29.12 | "and u outdid bethesda in the complexity department"
actually probably true, i mean can you recall any quests in skyrim with FOUR different solutions?!?!
lol. rpg maker 2003 is a pretty decent engine to use, i'm going to get vx ace soon, it's $70 but i'm pretty serious about this and i have a lot of experience with rpg maker. also supports higher resolutions and ruby scripting. |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | lol not rlly i guess.....morrowind and new vegas have some crazy different outcomes for shit though
i didn't do any of the quests in yours, just walked around and talked to people went up a ladder on a castle talked to some fat guy took a boat and went somehwere got my ass kicked by a tree it was a good ol time |
Lakes
11.29.12 | lol
when you played it i think that i was before i put in a quest journal so that's understandable. i had a lot of complaints of people not knowing what to do lol.
and yeah dude, it's my goal to make every quest have at least two different solutions. i try not to go overboard with it because it's easy to lose track of things though. but it's nice to have roleplaying options whenever it makes sense |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | yea for sure. if you had to estimate, for how much time did you work on the game when it was at that stage? |
Lakes
11.29.12 | jesus, i don't know. i've been working on it on and off since 2007 lol but i didn't seriously start
putting work into it until like january of this year. there was a time when i was working on it 3 or 4
hours a day. i don't know, it must have been several hundreds of hours of work by now if not 1000s
lol.
keep in mind that i spent a lot of that time tweaking and redoing old shit lol. the game was pretty
juvenile back when i started it and there's some dialogue in there that i still haven't got around to
rewriting. |
Lakes
11.29.12 | gam maeking is a time consuming process for sure, if you want a truly balanced/bug free and well written game be prepared to spend a loooong time going back and tweaking and redoing stuff. |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | jesus. i mean i wish i had the time for that. honestly when i go to my next school im gonna probs go for creative writing/arts and entertainment management. ive always been interested in working in the entertainment industry, and a lot of game developers need writers and they hire you easy if you show passion and any past work with games in terms of design or writing and shit. if i had an rpg like yours that at least showed i had game design right and could do that i could land a job in that field. avellone from obsidian and formerly black isle said legit you can get hired and have a great paying job without all the fancy college shit if you have other work to back it up. |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | it must be hard just figuring out level and mob progressions and stats, holy shit can i even do this? im terrible with math too oh god |
Lakes
11.29.12 | it's tough. i don't really crunch numbers or anything to see if the game is mathematically balanced but i've done a shitload of playtesting. basically you just gotta play the game and then tweak the stats to what feels natural, then when you release if people are saying it's too hard/too easy you have to take that into account, because obviously as the creator of the game the experience is going to be a bit different for you |
Lakes
11.29.12 | shit, i'd love to finish up this and make the sequel a commercial game. that's the dream. then if that's a success it would be cool to work at obsidian or something or even a smaller indie dev |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | yeah thats true. i dont really have interest in programming tbh, but id love to write scripts and
stories for games. its always been something ive been really interested in. i love games that happen
to be well written and have great characters and storylines, and those aren't always so easy to find |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | if you work with an indie company though money might be tight. i mean companies like mojang started mad small but when minecraft exploded they made like 109i32193218219281292819 dollars so i mean it could happen but theres not a lot of money it unless you work your way up |
Lakes
11.29.12 | i've been told my game is pretty well-written, which is nice
i have zero programming knowledge which is why i love rpg maker, it's incredibly easy to use.
planning on finishing this game next year, going to buckle down hard over christmas break. then i'm gonna get vx ace and the sequel is going to be a lot more professional lol. i've pretty much made up this game as i've went along and my design goals and ideas have changed a lot over time so i've spent a long time just redoing stupid stuff. i don't have a very good work ethic |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | neither do i. i mean in terms of doing things i love ill work like an animal but besides that im lazy as can be. do you recommend since im novice with this I just use rpgmaker 2003 for now? i know vx ace is a lot more professional and the money wouldnt be an object at 70 dollars, but what would you suggest in terms of a starting point |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | and lol the lore in your game was pretty ridiculous....i mean it was fun and i liked talking to people but idk lol i mean its still impressive you put that together for sure, really corny intro btw but whatever its a trve rpg corn is half the battle |
Lakes
11.29.12 | i haven't really tried out ace but 2003 is very simple to use and obv you can get it for free because it was never officially released in english, i guess the downside is that you can't make commercial games with it but that's not a big deal for most people.
if you want to make a serious project go with vx ace as it's a lot more capable and you can make some nice looking graphics, but if you just want to make something silly to start out definitely try 2k3 |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | what do you mean by commercial |
Lakes
11.29.12 | "and lol the lore in your game was pretty ridiculous....i mean it was fun and i liked talking to people but idk lol i mean its still impressive you put that together for sure, really corny intro btw but whatever its a trve rpg corn is half the battle"
i went for some intentionally humorous elements lol, the trees and the goblins were basically all there for comic relief. i like fantasy settings that blend humor with seriousness |
Lakes
11.29.12 | "what do you mean by commercial"
as in a game that you could legally sell |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | me and my bro wanna make one that has really stupid/sexuall ridiculous dialogue. we have this dream of making a quest where you need to either save a girl from getting raped hard by a black dude or help the black dude rape her and get a piece of her sweet white ass. i know for a fact the first thing we do is gonna be a completely non sensical rpg but still be trve and have hxc rpg elements |
climactic
11.29.12 | lakes and neutral talking about video games is all i see recently |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | its more interesting than any other conversations people have on this site lately you FUCKER |
Lakes
11.29.12 | hahahaha |
climactic
11.29.12 | true with the exception of insurrection vs. _______ those are always funny |
ThunderNeutral21
11.29.12 | insurrection best user jazz sucks agreed 5/5 periphery best metal band |
Winrar
11.30.12 | whats with people who think they're RPG elites because they play Final Fantasy?
Half the FF series is fucking trash especially X. |
Lakes
11.30.12 | yup |
MichaelSnoxall
11.30.12 | List isn't elite at all. 1, 2, 7 and 10 all suck. 8 is only game worthy of top 10. |
MichaelSnoxall
11.30.12 | also no doom. neg. |
