intotheshit
10.02.12 | Just push the plunger and watch you fade from the world. |
Sauce
10.02.12 | can't you also smoke heroine? |
intotheshit
10.02.12 | Such a waste |
Sauce
10.02.12 | oh, and then all the comments disappear and mine looks stupid now. |
psykonaut
10.02.12 | "can't you also smoke heroine?"
you can smoke anything if you put your mind to it |
MetallicOpeth
10.02.12 | "can't you also smoke heroine?"
the beatles did |
fish.
10.02.12 | harsh |
intotheshit
10.02.12 | I'm running a sting for the DEA |
kitsch
10.02.12 | smoking h wastes a lot of it but you get a bigger rush than sniffing
i used to be addicted to this and vicodin but have been clean since july |
intotheshit
10.02.12 | Oh congratulations! |
Topaz
10.02.12 | no |
kitsch
10.02.12 | 2 year daily habit and i dont really even miss it
fucked my life to hell |
Xenophanes
10.02.12 | Grats |
intotheshit
10.02.12 | I did heroin once.
For 4 years. |
kitsch
10.02.12 | that awkward moment when your live in gf finds your rig and had no clue that you're doing anything of the sort |
Duderino
10.02.12 | ^ lol |
someguest
10.02.12 | kitsch sounds like a character from the sun also rises |
intotheshit
10.02.12 | the awkward moment when you're in prison and the guards call you homeless jesus. |
kitsch
10.02.12 | more like smart people do drugs
my iq is 156 bitch |
intotheshit
10.02.12 | Riff, you off your game or something? That was pretty pathetic. |
someguest
10.02.12 | intelligence really has nothing to do with drugs
it has more to do with whether you're an enormous pussy or not
and kitsch is obviously an enormous pussy |
intotheshit
10.02.12 | Been waiting on a comment like that. |
kitsch
10.02.12 | yeah im a huge pussy |
intotheshit
10.02.12 | "what game. drugs are bad"
Drugs never hurt anybody. |
someguest
10.02.12 | well clearly you aren't a huge dick
chinaman |
fish.
10.02.12 | yeah let's just forget that he became clean |
intotheshit
10.02.12 | Shut up Anarchist. |
kitsch
10.02.12 | >well clearly you aren't a huge dick
>chinaman
i really dont follow what youre saying
|
MetallicOpeth
10.02.12 | lol |
someguest
10.02.12 | it's the heroin |
kitsch
10.02.12 | what does heroin have to do with being a dick or not |
intotheshit
10.02.12 | Heroin Dick is my favorite kind of dick |
fish.
10.02.12 | "Shut up Anarchist."
fuck off |
someguest
10.02.12 | No, seriously, shut up. |
kitsch
10.02.12 | heroin dick sucks
its impossible to get off
since ive gotten clean my sex drive has increased like 10 fold
my gf would always get self conscious that she was too loose or something and want me to fuck her in the ass so i could cum
didnt argue |
fish.
10.02.12 | "No, seriously, shut up."
sure if /two/ of the worst users on the site say it then I must obey |
someguest
10.02.12 | Your definition of "worst" must be different than mine. |
kitsch
10.02.12 | there were times i wished that i could fake an orgasm |
someguest
10.02.12 | In all seriousness I'm glad you're clean kitsch. Time's too valuable for that shit. |
fish.
10.02.12 | you've time and time again proved you have moronic ideas so that doesn't surprise me |
someguest
10.02.12 | Read a few of my reviews and see the difference between my list posting and legitimate music discussion, Mr. Literal. |
kitsch
10.02.12 | thanks someguest
|
intotheshit
10.02.12 | "you've time and time again proved you have moronic ideas so that doesn't surprise me"
Then why in the fuck are you arguing, you moron? |
fish.
10.02.12 | if you can't make your writing look sarcastic don't try |
someguest
10.02.12 | Lol. Don't be an angsty fish. |
fish.
10.02.12 | lol where was I arguing |
omnipanzer
10.02.12 | "Who Does Heroin?"
Who doesn't ? |
Ovrot
10.02.12 | my dad was in prison for smuggling heroin once
m/ |
intotheshit
10.02.12 | "if you can't make your writing look sarcastic don't try"
Could you be dumber? |
kitsch
10.02.12 | >Heroin is fucking sweet if you had all the dope you'd ever need.
pretty much |
kitsch
10.02.12 | i would hate it when my dude wouldnt be on and i had to do sobos |
intotheshit
10.02.12 | you tryin to sell me some suboxone? |
fish.
10.02.12 | "Could you be dumber?"
brilliant. could you fuck off? |
kitsch
10.02.12 | im clean now douches |
intotheshit
10.02.12 | "brilliant. could you fuck off?"
Hey, I'm not the one with my panties in a wad because someone doesn't like me.
Plus, this is my list. |
kitsch
10.02.12 | so many ppl butthurt itt |
intotheshit
10.02.12 | No shit nigga |
IndianaWarLord
10.02.12 | all of my knowledge comes from movies and documentaries. i guess ive never gotten deep enough in the drug world. honestly it sounds awesome you just gotta immediately bail and cut your losses |
intotheshit
10.02.12 | i think you need to re-evaluate that statement. |
henryChinaski
10.02.12 | hehe |
intotheshit
10.02.12 | I used to eat heroin and sardines for dinner |
fish.
10.02.12 | "Hey, I'm not the one with my panties in a wad because someone doesn't like me."
keep twisting my words go on |
intotheshit
10.02.12 | "keep twisting my words go on"
Twisting your words? Lol you're doing it on your own, bud |
Emyay
10.02.12 | idk if you're being for real kitsch but thanks for sharing either way
|
kitsch
10.02.12 | i am always real
|
Trebor17
10.02.12 | Hmmm I will either end up dead or in rehab, this is a great idea! |
Uranium
10.02.12 | might try later tonight |
Ire
10.02.12 | eat heroin inject weed |
intotheshit
10.02.12 | eat heroin smoke alcohol drink weed |
Maniac!
10.02.12 | sup pitty scent |
YankeeDudel
10.02.12 | Some kid my lil bro went to highschool with just od'ed on heroin a few days ago. So fuckin stupid. |
Trebor17
10.02.12 | Natural selection at work |
chambered49
10.02.12 | withdrawing from dope right now listen to me kids heroin is not worth it |
Trebor17
10.02.12 | No fucking shit |
chambered49
10.02.12 | :/ |
Trebor17
10.02.12 | I saw Trainspotting and Sid and Nancy
|
chambered49
10.02.12 | cant say anything about boy without experiencing boy |
Trebor17
10.02.12 | Didn't you see the movies Sam? Did you learn nothing? |
chambered49
10.02.12 | just wanted to feel the power in my veins brotha |
DarthMann
10.02.12 | hard drugs are fucking stupid |
Maniac!
10.02.12 | Trainspotting and Requiem for a Dream should be enough to warn anyone away from being a fucking dumbass |
chambered49
10.02.12 | you're confusing dumbass with absolutely 0% not giving a shit |
Wheelah
10.02.12 | A good friend of mine's best friend OD'd on heroin a couple months ago, she was put into a coma by the doctors and chances are she won't wake up. Never gonna do fucking heroin... I recently tried triple C's, but I'm just gonna stick with pot from now on... |
DarthMann
10.02.12 | ive smoked grass before fuck im hard |
chambered49
10.02.12 | weed is the way to go |
Maniac!
10.02.12 | No, that's still being a dumbass, Chambered. (Edit: to your last comment) |
chambered49
10.02.12 | cant hang w the big boys |
DarthMann
10.02.12 | by grass i meant real grass, not weed |
intotheshit
10.02.12 | It's not being a dumbass. It's being an addict. THere is plenty of a difference. |
tarkus
10.02.12 | lol triple c's are you fucking stupid |
chambered49
10.02.12 | an addict is powerless over his/her addiction thats the 1st step |
DarthMann
10.02.12 | the only triple i know is triple H |
Maniac!
10.02.12 | "It's not being a dumbass. It's being an addict. THere is plenty of a difference."
I was talking about starting heroin in the first place. |
intotheshit
10.02.12 | "I was talking about starting heroin in the first place."
You still don't understand the concept of addiction. |
kitsch
10.02.12 | Sam that was quick to have any withdrawal
A bender usu just leaves me with a piercing headache but a couple dones kills it permanently |
Maniac!
10.02.12 | "You still don't understand the concept of addiction."
does being addicted to fucking my hand count? |
kitsch
10.02.12 | Not in the slightest it just makes you a loser
|
DarthMann
10.02.12 | you dont fuck your hand your hand fucks you |
kitsch
10.02.12 | Worthless post
Post about heroin
Most unsettling thing a junkie said to me
'U got a new girlfriend now and her name is boy' |
cliiint
10.02.12 | "I recently tried triple C's, but I'm just gonna stick with pot from now on..."
i think that's a very fucking good idea. please tell your stupid friends that ccc's will kill them. there's other ways to trip on dxm |
kitsch
10.02.12 | dxm was surprisingly cool |
cliiint
10.02.12 | except the headache in my eyes yea it was fun |
kitsch
10.02.12 | Didnt get that at all in fact it was semi analgesic. I have a constant headache because of botched jaw surgery |
auberginedreams
10.02.12 | yeah i inject it straight into my dickhole, best high ever. |
curseworship
10.02.12 | I worked with dudes that did sobos, I've never seen people sweat so much in my life |
curseworship
10.03.12 | aw man that was almost funny |
curseworship
10.03.12 | i'll give you one more chance |
Puzzles
10.03.12 | "i used to be addicted to this and vicodin but have been clean since july"
Legend man, props for this. Good luck with it |
Puzzles
10.03.12 | shut up heretic |
auberginedreams
10.03.12 | i love how people who quit drugs are praised but those who are smart enough not to do them in the
first place are mocked. |
Trebor17
10.03.12 | lol I think about that all the time Auber
Patton Oswalt has a similar joke about how recovered alcoholics get praised, but I learned how to handle my liquor, where's my fucking medal? |
intotheshit
10.03.12 | Aubergine, read your post again and tell me if you find it as dumb as I did. |
BlueW
10.03.12 | drugs are good m'kay but I dun do dem cuz I'm a straight edge pussy |
auberginedreams
10.03.12 | "Patton Oswalt has a similar joke about how recovered alcoholics get praised, but I learned how to handle my liquor, where's my fucking medal?"
lol yeah exactly. i don't get it. |
intotheshit
10.03.12 | Maybe because most addicts predisposed to addiction when born?
Or is that too complicated for you to understand? |
YankeeDudel
10.03.12 | Nah the people who get mocked are the ones who are fuckin annoying about being straight edge like drinking a beer or blazing a J once in their lives is going to kill them and they're so much better than everyone who does. Nobody is mocking people who dont do heroine. |
auberginedreams
10.03.12 | "Maybe because most addicts predisposed to addiction when born?"
maybe so, but even if you're genetically predisposed to addiction, if you never do it a first time then you can't really get hooked on it. and to be clear, i'm not discounting the accomplishments of people who have become clean after having used drugs, but it's still better to stay away from them in the first place. |
intotheshit
10.03.12 | "maybe so, but even if you're genetically predisposed to addiction, if you never do it a first time then you can't really get hooked on it."
Ummm.... you do realize that someone who's predisposed to addiction can become addicted to anything, right?
Plus, what fucking 15 year old doesn't try pot? |
Trebor17
10.03.12 | I smoked pot after seeing Transformers 2
I wish I had smoked before seeing Transformers 2 |
intotheshit
10.03.12 | At least you were able to forget about it, Trebor. |
YankeeDudel
10.03.12 | yea but we arent talking about being addicted to pot. being addicted to heroin means you had to be stupid enough to try it in the first place. addictive predisposition or not. |
intotheshit
10.03.12 | So wait.... lol..... this is where your logic is flawed, yankee.
I've seen pot destroy people's lives too. It might not kill them, but they still lie, cheat, and steal to get their fix. Granted, pot isn't as extreme as the other drugs, but I have met plenty of people who have had their lives destroyed by it. |
intotheshit
10.03.12 | You all seem to ignore that there is a natural progression of addiction.
Start with alcohol- build a tolerance.
Move on to pot- build a tolerance.
Life still sucks and I don't want to deal with it anymore- start doing coke.
Coke's not strong enough anymore- start doing heroin.
It's almost like it's not a matter of choice anymore. You can make the choice not to do these drugs if you aren't an addict nor ever put a single drug in your body, but once those drugs have taken over and they aren't doing what they used to do for you, you want something stronger.
|
auberginedreams
10.03.12 | "Ummm.... you do realize that someone who's predisposed to addiction can become addicted to anything, right?"
no shit, that's why i said it's genetic, but you still have to do it at least once to know that you want to do it again.
"Plus, what fucking 15 year old doesn't try pot?"
well i didn't, but that's not really relevant seeing as we're talking about addictive hard drugs like heroine. |
intotheshit
10.03.12 | "well i didn't, but that's not really relevant seeing as we're talking about addictive hard drugs like heroine."
For someone who seems to know everything about it, Auber, you don't have a clue as to how to spell it. |
YankeeDudel
10.03.12 | Yea i hear you. I was a little addicted to weed in college at one point. People say its not physically addictive but like you said anything can become mentally addictive. I needed to get high every day and if I didnt I became a crabby bitch. I would need at least a couple days off to not think about smoking all the time. Plus I needed it to sleep. So I started selling. I finished with a 3.4 so I did well in classes but yea. Im just sayin its still on a completely different level than Heroin, which is obviously very very physically and mentally addictive. |
auberginedreams
10.03.12 | "At least you were able to forget about it, Trebor."
yeah unlike that intotheshit guy who's posted like ten comments about it in the last five minutes. |
intotheshit
10.03.12 | Now, as a former heroin addict myself, I've never believed myself to be better than anyone else for overcoming it. I have gone through some shit and been able to come out the other side, but I'm sure everyone has had something like that happen in their life.
I wish I could say the same for you guys who think us recovering hard drug addicts were are total fucking idiots. We aren't idiots. We have a disgusting disease that runs rampant in our genes and family systems(most of us do anyways). That doesn't mean we're fucking stupid. We had no other way to cope with what went on in our lives. I, for instance, never had someone teach me a damn thing about life. That's not excuse for my behavior, but I needed someone to teach me how to live without a nasty crutch to lean on. |
auberginedreams
10.03.12 | "For someone who seems to know everything about it, Auber, you don't have a clue as to how to spell it."
you know you've defeated somebody in argument they start nitpicking your grammar. |
intotheshit
10.03.12 | "yeah unlike that intotheshit guy who's posted like ten comments about it in the last five minutes."
What in the fuck does that have to do with Trebor's comment or my comment? |
YankeeDudel
10.03.12 | Come on though pit you had to have known that doing heroin was a horrible choice. Im sure that first high was amazing though. |
auberginedreams
10.03.12 | "I wish I could say the same for you guys who think us recovering hard drug addicts were are total fucking idiots."
literally nobody has said this wtf. |
intotheshit
10.03.12 | "you know you've defeated somebody in argument they start nitpicking your grammar."
I'm sorry, but it's hard to believe that someone can be an authority on the subject when they can't even spell the drug correctly. |
Uranium
10.03.12 | just stuck heroin up my arm n my friends n girlfriend are laughing at me and i dont know what's going
on |
auberginedreams
10.03.12 | yeah it's called a typo, they happen. it's the internet, not a medical document. |
auberginedreams
10.03.12 | here's where you went wrong.
"Life still sucks and I don't want to deal with it anymore- start doing coke."
change this to
"Life still sucks and I don't want to deal with it anymore- deal with it anyway like everybody else." |
intotheshit
10.03.12 | '""Life still sucks and I don't want to deal with it anymore- deal with it anyway like everybody else."'
Yeah, except some of us weren't ever taught how to deal with life like that. Some of us didn't grow up privileged like you, auber. |
intotheshit
10.03.12 | I mean, if I was in therapy since I was 9 for the 18 different mental issues I had like you, auber, I might be a perfect human specimen just like yourself. |
auberginedreams
10.03.12 | "if I was in therapy since I was 9 for the 18 different mental issues I had like you"
wut |
intotheshit
10.03.12 | Dude, it's obvious you're a mental midget. I mean, I understand I troll a lot on the internet, but you take stupidity and ignorance to a whole new level. |
intotheshit
10.03.12 | Excuse me, auber, but your inferiority complex is showing. |
auberginedreams
10.03.12 | yeah i think i won this one lol. |
intotheshit
10.03.12 | "yeah i think i won this one lol."
Won what? Lol is there winning involved? Is this a competition? |
intotheshit
10.03.12 | I wish I led a sheltered childhood. |
WeepingBanana
10.03.12 | anyone else do Jenkem? |
Puzzles
10.03.12 | Yeah sort of, I don't smoke it tho I eat it |
Puzzles
10.03.12 | "i love how people who quit drugs are praised but those who are smart enough not to do them in the first place are mocked."
Because it's a lot fucking harder to get off drugs than to get on them |
Puzzles
10.03.12 | Oh and because people who don't do drugs are pussies |
auberginedreams
10.03.12 | so don't get on them? |
sniper01
10.03.12 | every event in history is nothing but a complex chemical reaction that began with the beginning of the universe, and no one has free will. people don't control the things they do. |
MuhNamesTyler
10.03.12 | "Now, as a former heroin addict myself, I've never believed myself to be better than anyone else for overcoming it. I have gone through some shit and been able to come out the other side, but I'm sure everyone has had something like that happen in their life.
I wish I could say the same for you guys who think us recovering hard drug addicts were are total fucking idiots. We aren't idiots. We have a disgusting disease that runs rampant in our genes and family systems(most of us do anyways). That doesn't mean we're fucking stupid. We had no other way to cope with what went on in our lives. I, for instance, never had someone teach me a damn thing about life. That's not excuse for my behavior, but I needed someone to teach me how to live without a nasty crutch to lean on."
Respect for you man. I used to chill with a couple of dudes who were in and out of jail/rehabs and whenever they got out they were so serious about quitting but some messed up shit would happen and they couldn't deal and then they'd be right back in rehab 2 months later but anyways dude props |
Trophycase
10.03.12 | idk man, I feel like discipline combined with restraint makes for breaking addictions. Even if it runs in the genes, you are still making the conscious choice to use the drug. |
auberginedreams
10.03.12 | " Even if it runs in the genes, you are still making the conscious choice to use the drug."
this. |
BigBlob
10.03.12 | Injecting heroin into your balls is fun. |
TomArnoldsArmpit
10.03.12 | I've smoked it, but it ain't all that. I normally stick to the 3 B's. |
Ire
10.03.12 | gonna drug all drugs its gonna be sweet life is shitty anyway |
sniper01
10.03.12 | seriously people do not have control over who they are and the tools they are equipped with to deal with life. you can act like you made a conscious choice not to do hard drugs, but the truth is you probably never felt tempted in the first place. it's easy to say no to things that scare the shit out of you like heroin most definitely does to you, auber. it's a lot harder, maybe impossible i'd argue, when you're born naturally susceptible to drug abuse and your role models are shitty or altogether absent from your life. telling a person they have chosen to be a drug addict or a murderer or a thief is a fundamental misunderstanding of human behavior. addicts don't choose to be attracted to drugs any more than you choose to be repulsed by them. |
BigBlob
10.03.12 | dont be stupid. |
Ire
10.03.12 | yeah shut up aub |
TomArnoldsArmpit
10.03.12 | seriously |
kitsch
10.03.12 | Intothepit is right about the predisposition. I have an uncle thats a methhead, my late grandpa was addicted to coke, my aunt was addicted to crack and pcp, several alcoholics, my cousin another coke head, another cousin addicted to h.
Shit like this runs in the family i think.
Also for me i started drinking at 13, smoking weed at 14 and popping my moms oxycotin by 15. Hardly old enough to make any kind of intelligent or controlled decision. To bad it fucks you over permanently. |
chambered49
10.03.12 | I wish I could say the same for you guys who think us recovering hard drug addicts were are total fucking idiots. We aren't idiots. We have a disgusting disease that runs rampant in our genes and family systems(most of us do anyways). That doesn't mean we're fucking stupid. We had no other way to cope with what went on in our lives. I, for instance, never had someone teach me a damn thing about life. That's not excuse for my behavior, but I needed someone to teach me how to live without a nasty crutch to lean on.
123 |
chambered49
10.03.12 | cold turkey dope w/d 5 days baby goin stronggggggg |
Atari
10.03.12 | Interesting thread and it's cool u were able to overcome your addiction Pit. Ive dealt with my fair share of addiction myself. |
kitsch
10.03.12 | They should be over now
How long was this stint |
chambered49
10.03.12 | yeah it's pretty much over man that was rough |
intotheshit
10.03.12 | Auber, still think you won? |
Maniac!
10.03.12 | Well this list became more serious than I was anticipating. |
chambered49
10.03.12 | thats cuz ur a pussy |
Drsmith4
10.03.12 | some of the realest people I know are recovering drug or alcohol addicts |
intotheshit
10.03.12 | I didn't expect it to get serious. Between Kitsch's admission and Auber spewing out ignorant garbage, it was just destined to be. |
Maniac!
10.03.12 | I was just hoping my jackass comments from earlier were going to get lumped in with auberdumbass over there |
intotheshit
10.03.12 | This and my kids are touchy subjects for me. I probably should have expected this list to turn out this way. |
qwe3
10.03.12 | i just do krokodil now |
Wolfhorde
10.03.12 | "people do not have control over who they are"
Wrong. Partially, they do. This is also up there with the no. 1 excuses for not having any kind of responsibility. |
kitsch
10.03.12 | people itt have no life experiences dont blame them |
intotheshit
10.03.12 | "Wrong. Partially, they do. This is also up there with the no. 1 excuses for not having any kind of responsibility."
Again, if you weren't taught anything growing up what are you supposed to do? I understand that I shunned responsibility, but it wasn't out of just pure ignorance. I didn't know what responsibilities I had. |
sniper01
10.03.12 | no people do not have control over who they are. |
intotheshit
10.03.12 | I am who I am, and there's nothing you nor I can do about it. I can change my behaviors and how I react to life, but it will never change who I am. |
sniper01
10.03.12 | but if you change your actions it is only in response to a stimulus in your life that provokes the decision. a brain identical to yours given the same stimulus would make the exact same decision. it's chemistry. |
intotheshit
10.03.12 | I'm agreeing with you, Sniper. I'm just taking it a bit farther as it pertains to addiction:
You only make a different decision when shit hits the fan. |
Maniac!
10.03.12 | sniper knows all about chemistry. he's seen all the breaking bad seasons |
klap
10.03.12 | agree 100% with addiction running in the family. i am lucky enough to not be predisposed to addiction but have definitely seen those who are and it's like night/day when you are partying with them |
sniper01
10.03.12 | it runs in the individual more than anything i think. |
klap
10.03.12 | that too. i honestly just think you either have it or you don't |
sniper01
10.03.12 | this is getting to be a more philosophical argument i'm not really interested in having but i more or less agree with the notion that people are very much slaves to their brain chemistry. |
klap
10.03.12 | agreed for the most part |
intotheshit
10.03.12 | Where's Auber? I'm waiting on more ignorant bullshit from Sputnik's Resident Retard. |
WeepingBanana
10.03.12 | sniper, I agree with what you and pit have been saying about addiction, but Chomsky debunked Skinner's behaviorist theories a loooong time ago. |
Wheelah
10.03.12 | I definitely have an addictive personality unfortunately. A couple years back, ridiculous though it sounds, I was addicted to video games. It ran my life, and I alienated myself from all my friends for a few years. I've overcome that, but I worry about myself and substance abuse nowadays. My friend I mentioned earlier, who's done or knows people who do every drug known to man, said she worries about me becoming an alcoholic. I'm 17, and I don't even have enough access to drink that often. I don't think I'm becoming an alcoholic. But hearing that from her and others scared me, so I'm trying my hardest not to let myself become addicted to anything. |
sniper01
10.03.12 | It has become possible to study the living brain, and researchers can now watch the brain's decision-making process at work. A seminal experiment in this field was conducted by Benjamin Libet in the 1980s, in which he asked each subject to choose a random moment to flick her wrist while he measured the associated activity in her brain; in particular, the build-up of electrical signal called the readiness potential (after German Bereitschaftspotential). Although it was well known that the readiness potential caused and preceded the physical action, Libet asked whether it could be recorded before the conscious intention to move. To determine when subjects felt the intention to move, he asked them to watch the second hand of a clock. After making a movement, the volunteer reported the time on the clock when they first felt the conscious intention to move; this became known as Libet's W time.[84]
Libet found that the unconscious brain activity of the readiness potential leading up to subjects' movements began approximately half a second before the subject was aware of a conscious intention to move.[84][85]
These studies of the timing between actions and the conscious decision bear upon the role of the brain in understanding free will. A subject's declaration of intention to move a finger appears after the brain has begun to implement the action, suggesting to some that unconsciously the brain has made the decision before the conscious mental act to do so. Some believe the implication is that free will was not involved in the decision and is an illusion. The first of these experiments reported the brain registered activity related to the move about 0.2 s before movement onset.[86] However, these authors also found that awareness of action was anticipatory to activity in the muscle underlying the movement; the entire process resulting in action involves more steps than just the onset of brain activity. The bearing of these results upon notions of free will appears complex.[87][88]
Some argue that placing the question of free will in the context of motor control is too narrow. The objection is that the time scales involved in motor control are very short, and motor control involves a great deal of unconscious action, with much physical movement entirely unconscious. On that basis "...free will cannot be squeezed into time frames of 150–350 ms; free will is a longer term phenomenon" and free will is a higher level activity that "cannot be captured in a description of neural activity or of muscle activation..." [89] The bearing of timing experiments upon free will still is under discussion. |
sniper01
10.03.12 | i realize this is not conclusive proof that there is no free will but i don't believe in free will and my lazy ass brain would only allow me to spend 2 seconds looking for something to post. not my fault though, i have no will after all. |
wabbit
10.03.12 | I remember reading about this theory that what human's perceive as "free will" is actually just your brains way of dealing with stimuli and that's why people go absolutely crazy in an environment without stimuli. It seemed a little over the top but it was well researched/ written. |
Counterfeit
10.03.12 | cant actually believe how retarded some people are when it comes to understanding addiction wow |
sniper01
10.03.12 | we have sense of agency so it feels like free will, but yeah, we def don't have any control. |
intotheshit
10.03.12 | cant actually believe how retarded auber is when it comes to understanding addiction wow |
lyzakthellama
10.03.12 | okay I have a question? Do you call people pussies and give a hard time to people that don't do anything including like drinking and smoking weed even if they're not annoying and all STRAGHTEDGE 4 LIFE all the time? Cause my friends give me shit for not smoking but its not like I judge them for doing it or anything, I just dont have the desire to, just wondering sorry haha |
intotheshit
10.03.12 | Don't know why I found your post funny, but no, I don't call people pussies for not doing drugs or drinking. |
Crymsonblaze
10.03.12 | Drugs are bad. |
lyzakthellama
10.03.12 | haha ya I have a tendency to say to much especially when I'm asking a question that could be as simple as that one haha |
WeepingBanana
10.04.12 | it's not peer pressure
it's just your hit |
kitsch
10.04.12 | Dichotic thinking and polarization are signs of a lazy explanation. |
