NWOAHM666
11.26.11 | What's the problem with Kill'em All? It doesn't appear. |
taylormemer
11.26.11 | 666 |
JamieTwort
11.26.11 | Albums with apostrophes in the title don't show up if you edit your list. |
JamieTwort
11.26.11 | List could use Diamond Head - Lightning to the Nations. |
xenocide.
11.26.11 | Mostly agree, I smell feature. |
GodL1ke
11.26.11 | now if only you kept in flames out of this.... |
NWOAHM666
11.26.11 | "now if only you kept in flames out of this...."
It'd be pretty stupid IMO. But why? |
GodL1ke
11.26.11 | also, list needs some carcass and autopsy |
TheNotrap
11.26.11 | Cool list however some bands/albums are missing IMO:
Led Zeppelin - Pick one from their first 4
Deep Purple - Machine Head
Bathory - Bathory
Paradise Lost - Gothic
Sepultura - Arise or Chaos A.D. (huge influence to the nu/groove metal scene)
Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus (huge influence to the doom scene)
And in my opinion the most influential crossover album is Suicidal Tendencies debut not Cro-Mags' Age of Quarrel.
However still a cool list
m/ |
Motiv3
11.26.11 | where the hell is bathory. And Slayer did not start death metal...and lamb of god is not deathcore. Most of this is on point but some of it is fail. |
Lambda
11.26.11 | "Highly responsible for the (annoying) popularity of progressive metal ten years later."
Huh? |
NWOAHM666
11.26.11 | "lamb of god and killswitch engage haven't paved the way for any metal band"
Oh yes they have. At the least, they marked a new era of metal.
"And Slayer did not start death metal...and lamb of god is not deathcore."
a) I said that they STARTED DM, not that they ARE/WERE DM.
b) I didn't say LoG are deathcore either.
"Huh?"
I knew someone would contest this.
As for the other comments, thanks everyone, I know that there are some gaps here but I came up with most of this list during sleep (well...), thanks for pointing them out BTW.
And @ TheNotrap: personally I do not think that Sepultura ever had anything to do with nü-metal...in fact I think that they always played thrash but with a strong South American tribal feel to it. Chaos A.D. is the biggest example of this. |
NWOAHM666
11.26.11 | ^Other than Roots. |
JamieTwort
11.26.11 | "sepultura stopped being thrash after arise js"
They also stopped being good after Arise. |
NWOAHM666
11.26.11 | The only Sepultura album with both Cavaleras that can't really be called thrash is Roots, and even so some hardcore smell can be felt.
"influential =/= fathers of the genre"
Exactly what I meant, Riff. See? You're smart too!
"what?"
Uh well, lemme see...
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TheNotrap
11.26.11 | Dude I didin't say Sepultura is nu metal.
Sepultura's Beneath the Remains, Arise, Chaos AD or Roots had a huge impact on 90's new metal. Just ask Robb Flynn or Jonathan Davis.
In my opinion one of their albums (probably Chaos AD) should be here. |
ShousoStrip
11.26.11 | I'm pretty sure AC/DC influenced the sludge metal and the likes of Neurosis. |
coneren
11.26.11 | bunter |
GodL1ke
11.26.11 | no man they dont usually repeat their riffs more than twice of 4x plays. there is no verse-chorus-bridge structure |
NWOAHM666
11.26.11 | "Sepultura's Beneath the Remains, Arise, Chaos AD or Roots had a huge impact on 90's new metal. Just ask Robb Flynn or Jonathan Davis.
In my opinion one of their albums (probably Chaos AD) should be here."
Yeah, thinking well, maybe you're right (thinking of Machine's The Burning Red)...on that case it should be Chaos A.D..
"also, RiP the most influential album of all time? lol, venoms debut is 10x more influential that anything slayer ever put out
[...]
pretty sure opeth contributed nothing to the progressive metal scene"
First of all, there's no doubt that Reign in Blood made a huge impact, and, surprisingly considering that it is 25 years old, it still does.
Finally, lemme tell you that Opeth's rise was prog's rise. And that most (if not almost all) guys I personally know playing in prog metal bands cite Opeth as their main influence and favourite band. The only bands that come close are Gojira and (surprisingly) Lamb of God. |
coneren
11.26.11 | yeah but base are you a hot chick i hope so |
ShousoStrip
11.26.11 | Patterns in the Ivy |
taylormemer
11.26.11 | "Is there an Opeth riff that is not repeated less than 6 times btw?"
Is there a string of no more than 10 Baseline comments that don't mention, Opeth or Tool? |
taylormemer
11.26.11 | Close to being classified as "prog" by his buddies. |
NWOAHM666
11.26.11 | "come close to what"
Come close in their favourite bands/biggest influences list. |
AfterTheBreakdown
11.26.11 | Cool list. |
Wolfhorde
11.26.11 | The only reasonable persons in this thread are cone, ROC and JT. |
stabbler
11.26.11 | pretty good list
deep purple - machine head [2] or deep purple in rock
alice cooper??? (welcome to my nightmare)
kiss (destroyer) - love em or hate em, they set the scene for 10 years of glam metal in the 80s
ok - so i'm showing my age
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uninvited
11.26.11 | 2.5/5 |
Valerius
11.26.11 | Slayer - Show No Mercy was more influential(and a better record). Death metal was already started by the time Reign in Blood came out.
Fear Factory - Soul of a New Machine was more influential. Possibly the first record with death metal growls and clean vocals.
Other than that pretty good list. Other people already covered missing bands. |
NWOAHM666
11.26.11 | "Death metal was already started by the time Reign in Blood came out."
Seven Churches, how could I forget?
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Valerius
11.26.11 | Yeah, Possessed - Seven Churches and Messiah - Hymn to Abremelin were both LP's that came out before Reign in Blood. Others had demos/EP's going before it as well, like Death(Mantas), Master(Death Strike), Slaughter, Necrophagia, and Sepultura. Might be some others I don't know yet. |
coneren
11.26.11 | its true and u r gay so shut up obs |
coneren
11.26.11 | do you got big jugs |
NWOAHM666
11.26.11 | "Ignore FrankRedHot, he's a sad jerk."
I know. |
coneren
11.26.11 | i heard his real name is clarence and he likes men but idk |
coneren
11.26.11 | shut uop frank you cunthole ha oh man |
DominionMM1
11.26.11 | I'm pretty sure AC/DC influenced the sludge metal and the likes of Neurosis.
lol |
NWOAHM666
11.26.11 | "i like the fact that he actually knows what he is talking about when it comes to metalcore/metallic hardcore unlike most of the idiots on the site"
Who are you talking about? |
FrankRedHot
11.26.11 | Here, let's pick this apart:
5- "Started black metal and influenced some 234599533893573 bands."
They didn't "start" black metal. They were a thrash band with an album entitled "Black Metal." Why don't you read a little bit?
11- "The most influential metal album of all time, maybe alongside with Vulgar Display of Power. Started death metal and set new standards in terms of brutality. It is also one of the most controversial albums of all time, especially due to supposedly neo-Nazi lyrics in the song "Angel of Death".
Influential? Yes. Most influential? Are you fucking retarded?
12- "One of the most influential crossover albums of all time."
Let's just ignore Suicidal Tendencies and D.R.I.
13- "THE landmark of German thrash, highly influential among the death metal scene."
Ignoring Sodom
17- "Not the first grindcore record, but it's the one that define the genre."
Ignoring "Scum"
"Highly responsible for the blurring of the distinction between metal and hardcore in the 90s."
Ignoring bands like Sick of It All. You could have even put Cro-Mags right here.
25- "Highly influential in the US melodic death metal wave of 1997-1999 and thus the New Wave of American Heavy Metal"
Band was Swedish, you fucktard
27- "Kick-started the New Wave of American Heavy Metal, decimated n?-metal, and opened many people's eyes to extreme metal. Possibly the album that took underground extreme metal to the mainstream."
This is just fucking idiotic, no matter which way you look at it.
28- "Set the standards for deathcore."
This band did not have one ounce of "deathcore" in their music, so what in the fuck are you talking about, and where in the fuck did you get your information?
30- "Popularized melodic metalcore in the 2000s."
I guess you've never heard of Poison the Well nor Shai Hulud.
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Relinquished
11.26.11 | lol this list. ur missing Possessed, Amebix, Budgie, Godflesh, Neurosis, Melvins, etc. lol at Slayer's and Pantera's albums at being the most influencial OF ALL TIME. and that Meshuggah album didn't influence djent. get it right. |
Activista anti-MTV
11.26.11 | most influential metal bands are from '80s imo |
FrankRedHot
11.26.11 | I wouldn't say that, Hansen. I might only be speaking on my behalf because I was fortunately old enough to experience the height of metalcore, but I don't remember Killswitch necessarily popularizing the genre. I remember going to a PtW show in 97 or 98 before The Opposite of December came out and no one being there. I then remember going right after the album came out and watching them turn people away outside because it was so packed. The boom happened before Killswitch from what I saw, not after. |
FrankRedHot
11.26.11 | Maybe so..... I just disagree with it. Killswitch did help push the genre further, but I attribute the real boom to bands like PtW, Shai Hulud, and Skycamefalling. |
Pharoh
11.26.11 | cool |
combustion07
11.26.11 | Glad Possessed isn't on the list. |
ShadowRemains
11.26.11 | how the fuck did effigy of the forgotten influence the NWOAHM?
the jester race did not put melodeath on the map
celtic frost influenced black metal more than death metal
lol 20 and 11 are not the most influential metal albums at all
30 was not the first to popularize melodic metalcore
you're forgetting sodom and destruction (especially infernal overkill by destruction) for 13
scum was far more influential than FEtO
23 just no...
how the fuck did 28 set the standards for deathcore...
for 16, you've clearly never heard godflesh
so yeah lol at a lot of these, i'm sure there's more jesus christ |
MO
11.26.11 | yea this list is pretty bad |
Voivod
11.26.11 | 7 is some noisy punk i like. |
Activista anti-MTV
11.27.11 | 21 is left field |
NWOAHM666
11.27.11 | "They didn't 'start' black metal. They were a thrash band with an album entitled 'Black Metal.' Why don't you read a little bit?"
Maximum facepalm @ this answer.
"Influential? Yes. Most influential? Are you fucking retarded?"
Opinions.
"Let's just ignore Suicidal Tendencies and D.R.I."
The only wise thing you've said.
"Ignoring Sodom"
Want it or not, Kreator are more important than Sodom.
"Ignoring 'Scum'"
FEtO is far more important than Scum, it's cited as an influence far more often.
"Ignoring bands like Sick of It All. You could have even put Cro-Mags right here."
SOIA? Metallic HC? Are you insane?
"Band was Swedish, you fucktard"
Did I say anywhere that they were American? All I said was that they influenced American bands, now shut up and dig a hole.
"This is just fucking idiotic, no matter which way you look at it."
Sure, take your time.
"This band did not have one ounce of 'deathcore' in their music, so what in the fuck are you talking about, and where in the fuck did you get your information?"
Listen to NAG. Listen to some deathcore. Compare.
"I guess you've never heard of Poison the Well nor Shai Hulud."
Killswitch were far more important, everyone talked about them in the mid to late 2000s. I know that because I'm from that time.
So please stop polluting my lists with random flaming.
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NWOAHM666
11.27.11 | "how the fuck did effigy of the forgotten influence the NWOAHM?"
It set new standards of brutality and technicality.
"the jester race did not put melodeath on the map"
You sure about that?
"celtic frost influenced black metal more than death metal"
I wouldn't say so. Opinions.
"lol 20 and 11 are not the most influential metal albums at all"
Again, opinions.
"30 was not the first to popularize melodic metalcore"
But it was the most successful.
"you're forgetting sodom and destruction (especially infernal overkill by destruction) for 13"
Again, Pleasure to Kill is far more of a landmark.
"scum was far more influential than FEtO"
Explain.
"23 just no..."
It's more like 23 just yes.
"how the fuck did 28 set the standards for deathcore..."
I'm tired of repeating myself. Read my response for FrankRedHot.
"for 16, you've clearly never heard godflesh"
Actually I have. Simply they came up with Streetcleaner in 1990 and Ministry already had it in 1988. I do reckon, however, that this list could use them.
"im talking about you duh"
I thought you were talking about FrankRedHot aka IntoThePit. |
GodL1ke
11.27.11 | "opinions"
wrong |
Pharoh
11.27.11 | yeahhhhhhhhhh |
FrankRedHot
11.27.11 | 1. First of all, how can you "maximum face palm at my statement on Venom? THEY DIDN'T START BLACK METAL! Just because they have a THRASH album entitled "Black Metal" doesn't mean they started a genre. They just gave a term to describe it because the Scandinavians thought the name fit. MAXIMUM FACEPALM IN OVERDRIVE HERP DERP!
2. Opinions are great, but how about you read something first before you form one, you fucking moron.
3. FEtO(SPELL THE FUCKING ALBUM OUT, YOU LAZY SHIT) is hardly more "influential" or "important" than "Scum," considering "Scum" is the FIRST GRINDCORE RECORD OF ALL TIME(allegedly).
4. Sick of It All is metallic hardcore. Listen to the music and then read a fucking book.
5. I highly doubt you had any clue that At the Gates was Swedish, and you were just making an assumption based off of some "information" you read online.
6. I've listened to New American Gospel, and you know what I hear? A pseudo-thrash-groove band with southern influences. I don't hear one ounce of what I hear in deathcore on that album, nor any of Lamb of God's albums at that.
7. Killswitch was popular. You at least got that right. Was metalcore popular because of Killswitch? Fuck no. Oh, and yeah, I was alive at that time as well, along with the rest of the site, so how does your age have anything to do with your ignorance/stupidity.
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FrankRedHot
11.27.11 | 8. The Jester Race, nor anything that In Flames did put melodeath on the map. Ignoring that their were bands fooling with the sound 5-8 years before The Jester Race came out, that award goes to Carcass' "Heartwork." Once again, read a fucking book. |
combustion07
11.27.11 | I agree with 13 if that makes you feel any better. |
YetAnotherBrick
11.27.11 | It's good that you have Paranoid here, but no Black Sabbath? Shaaaaaaame. That's all of the list I really looked at, though. |
GodL1ke
11.27.11 | "The Jester Race, nor anything that In Flames did put melodeath on the map. Ignoring that their were bands fooling with the sound 5-8 years before The Jester Race came out, that award goes to Carcass' "Heartwork.""
This. |
combustion07
11.27.11 | This dude should do his own version of that Metal Evolution show.
HARHARHUR |
NWOAHM666
11.27.11 | "1. First of all, how can you "maximum face palm at my statement on Venom? THEY DIDN'T START BLACK METAL! Just because they have a THRASH album entitled "Black Metal" doesn't mean they started a genre. They just gave a term to describe it because the Scandinavians thought the name fit. MAXIMUM FACEPALM IN OVERDRIVE HERP DERP!"
If you're saying that all contribution Venom made to black metal was to name it please GTFO.
"2. Opinions are great, but how about you read something first before you form one, you fucking moron."
And I have.
"3. FEtO(SPELL THE FUCKING ALBUM OUT, YOU LAZY SHIT) is hardly more "influential" or "important" than "Scum," considering "Scum" is the FIRST GRINDCORE RECORD OF ALL TIME(allegedly)."
Wrong. The first grindcore album of all time AFAIK was Horrified by Repulsion.
"4. Sick of It All is metallic hardcore. Listen to the music and then read a fucking book."
I personally wouldn't say that. At all.
"5. I highly doubt you had any clue that At the Gates was Swedish, and you were just making an assumption based off of some "information" you read online."
[facepalm] Dude, you what? YOU WHAT? EVERYONE KNOWS THAT AT THE GATES WERE FROM GOTHEMBURG. (and in fact you can deduce that by listening to them, they still sound a lot like Edge of Sanity or something).
"6. I've listened to New American Gospel, and you know what I hear? A pseudo-thrash-groove band with southern influences. I don't hear one ounce of what I hear in deathcore on that album, nor any of Lamb of God's albums at that."
You may want to rewrite your last sentence.
"7. Killswitch was popular. You at least got that right. Was metalcore popular because of Killswitch? Fuck no. Oh, and yeah, I was alive at that time as well, along with the rest of the site, so how does your age have anything to do with your ignorance/stupidity."
They spread metalcore in the mainstream, so, yes, I'm right.
"The Jester Race, nor anything that In Flames did put melodeath on the map. Ignoring that their were bands fooling with the sound 5-8 years before The Jester Race came out, that award goes to Carcass' "Heartwork.""
Carcass INVENTED melodeath after quitting grindcore. Just. In Flames became the biggest band of the biggest scene of melodic death metal in history, being cited as an influence by thousands of bands. How can you argue with this?
P.S.: You underestimate me a lot. You may want to change your mind.
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GodL1ke
11.27.11 | "EVERYONE KNOWS THAT AT THE GATES WERE FROM GOTHEMBURG"
lol
"P.S.: You underestimate me a lot. You may want to change your mind"
lol |
GodL1ke
11.27.11 | but seriously you do realize that spreading music in the mainstream is nothing compared to pioneering a genre? it's hardly even a fucking influence. only the shittiest bands cite in fucking flames as their influence
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NWOAHM666
11.27.11 | Sure, sure, it's not the very deciding point. But it is still very important, you've got to admit that.
And once again, GodL1ke: I DIDN'T SAY AT THE GATES WAS AMERICAN. I SAID THAT THEY INFLUENCED AMERICAN BANDS, WHICH IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
I may redo this list with 50 albums instead of 30. I will add Bathory, Possessed, Sepultura, etc.. |
FrankRedHot
11.27.11 | Jesus christ, dude. |
FrankRedHot
11.27.11 | "If you're saying that all contribution Venom made to black metal was to name it please GTFO"
Considering that Hellhammer were making black metal before Venom put out "Black Metal", I'm still going to disagree with you. Once again, look shit up before you form an opinion.
"[facepalm] Dude, you what? YOU WHAT? EVERYONE KNOWS THAT AT THE GATES WERE FROM GOTHEMBURG. (and in fact you can deduce that by listening to them, they still sound a lot like Edge of Sanity or something)."
Apparently you didn't, considering you completely left out how they influenced the GOTHENBURG(spell it correctly) sound in your list.
"You may want to rewrite your last sentence."
Notice how NO ONE is agreeing with you. NO ONE.
"Carcass INVENTED melodeath after quitting grindcore."
Lol Carcass didn't INVENT melodeath. Jesus christ, bro. Bands were fucking with that sound a few years before "Heartwork" came out.
"Just. In Flames became the biggest band of the biggest scene of melodic death metal in history, being cited as an influence by thousands of bands. How can you argue with this?"
I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing that they weren't as influential on the scene as Carcass was. I guess asking you to read something is impossible, since you obviously can't read any of my posts.
"Wrong. The first grindcore album of all time AFAIK was Horrified by Repulsion."
Wrong again. "Horrified" came out 3 years after "Scum." Do I need to tell you to do some reading again?
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combustion07
11.27.11 | "P.S.: You underestimate me a lot. You may want to change your mind."
Got some tricks up his sleeve, watch ya back bitch |
FrankRedHot
11.27.11 | Do you realize that the information on Wikipedia isn't always right? It's a site built by users, not people with actual facts. |
eternium
11.27.11 | Needs Carcass. Inspired many grindcore and melodic death metal bands. |
GodL1ke
11.27.11 | "Notice how NO ONE is agreeing with you. NO ONE."
he seems to be a little hard headed...for now. |
eternium
11.27.11 | Not to mention this ignores doom and sludge completely. Melvins, Godflesh, Neurosis.. |
combustion07
11.27.11 | Honestly any "history of metal" or "most influential metal albums" list is going to have a bunch of people bitching about the selections. While this one may be particularly bad your best bet would've been to not make one at all. Bottom line, you probably shouldn't make a new one. |
GodL1ke
11.27.11 | haha this is why i don't make lists at all..
jk i'm just too lazy to list albums |
NWOAHM666
11.27.11 | "Considering that Hellhammer were making black metal before Venom put out "Black Metal", I'm still going to disagree with you. Once again, look shit up before you form an opinion."
Why are you mentioning Black Metal (the album) as if it was in this list?
"Apparently you didn't, considering you completely left out how they influenced the GOTHENBURG(spell it correctly) sound in your list."
Sorry for the mistake. And I didn't mention that because I see it as having influenced more US bands than Swedish ones.
"Wrong again. "Horrified" came out 3 years after "Scum." Do I need to tell you to do some reading again?"
I meant this:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Genocide/44351
They played grindcore when ND played hardcore.
"It's a site built by users, not people with actual facts."
Wow. Thanks a lot for such a brilliant conclusion.
/sarcasm
BTW, it seems that for you to mention all the mistakes and innaccuracies here is too hard and too long, why don't you want to tell me what you agree with? If I could I'd bet 10 euros that you're just gonna diss the whole thing.
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NWOAHM666
11.27.11 | "Not to mention this ignores doom and sludge completely. Melvins, Godflesh, Neurosis.."
What have Godflesh to do with doom or sludge? |
ohfoxxxycole
11.27.11 | how did slipknot decimate numetal
theyre numetal |
GodL1ke
11.27.11 | "What have Godflesh to do with doom or sludge?"
i think this is about the time you stop posting.... |
FrankRedHot
11.27.11 | I don't agree with any of it because you acknowledge every single "popular" band, but forget about bands like Deep Purple, Carcass, Bathory, Celtic Frost, etc etc etc
"I meant this:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Genocide/44351
They played grindcore when ND played hardcore"
No, you didn't. You have no clue what you're talking about, so why don't you just shut the fuck up already? |
eternium
11.27.11 | "What have Godflesh to do with doom or sludge?"
LOL |
NWOAHM666
11.27.11 | "I don't agree with any of it because you acknowledge every single "popular" band, but forget about bands like Deep Purple, Carcass, Bathory, Celtic Frost, etc etc etc"
Epic fail: CF ARE IN THE LIST!!!
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ohfoxxxycole
11.27.11 | he knows about metal-archives he must know what hes talking about |
combustion07
11.27.11 | Only the alpha metal elite can go there. I heard it's blood in, blood out to get an account |
FrankRedHot
11.27.11 | "Epic fail: CF ARE IN THE LIST!!!"
Oh wow! Such an epic fail! Missing one band in the list. Too bad you don't have "To Mega Therion," which is highly regarded as "more influential," and more black metal than anything Venom ever did. |
ShadowRemains
11.27.11 | underestimating your stupidity is the only underestimating going on in this thread
"What have Godflesh to do with doom or sludge?"
you have to be fucking kidding me (p.s. streetcleaner was released in 1989 not 1990)
i'm not even gonna bother with attempting to reason with your retorts to my post earlier, although you're making "absolute" opinions, which tend to never work out well |
NWOAHM666
11.27.11 | "Such an epic fail!"
It is. You not only proved what I was thinking but also showed that you don't bother to read descriptions.
"Only the alpha metal elite can go there. I heard it's blood in, blood out to get an account"
Some people here would disagree, I guess. |
FrankRedHot
11.27.11 | "It is. You not only proved what I was thinking but also showed that you don't bother to read descriptions."
No, I read your descriptions. God forgive me for missing one album! I guess that makes all of my points(supported by the majority of people in this thread) invalid! OH YOU GOT ME!!!
"Some people here would disagree, I guess."
You're horrible at catching onto people making fun of you. HORRIBLE. |
NWOAHM666
11.27.11 | "No, I read your descriptions. God forgive me for missing one album! I guess that makes all of my points(supported by the majority of people in this thread) invalid! OH YOU GOT ME!!!"
I didn't even say what my whole point was.
"You're horrible at catching onto people making fun of you. HORRIBLE."
You're obviously not much better.
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FrankRedHot
11.27.11 | How am I obviously not better? Lol. If you're referring to this thread, no one's mocking me as they are you, buddy. Once again, learn to read. |
FrankRedHot
11.27.11 | NWOAHM finally came to the realization that he has no clue what he's talking about. |
Relinquished
11.27.11 | this kid must be 15 |
FrankRedHot
11.27.11 | He said he was in college. |
Relinquished
11.27.11 | LOL that's even worse |
Eclecticist
11.27.11 | Great list except you completely missed all of the early Heavy Psychedelic Rock and Classic Hard Rock that were part of the movement along with Black Sabbath that made the biggest impact and had the largest influence on 80's metal.
Also, where is Hellhammer??? |
FrankRedHot
11.27.11 | He's probably never heard of them, as to why he thinks Venom "started" black metal. |
Eclecticist
11.27.11 | Sad, just sad. |
combustion07
11.27.11 | ACID QUEEENNNNNNNN |
Valerius
11.28.11 | I'm reading that Repulsion : Horrified was originally released in 1986, not 1989, and that Napalm Death called them the original Gods of Grind? |
FrankRedHot
11.28.11 | See NWOAHM, someone else uses wikipedia as a reliable source as well. You're not alone in your stupidity. |
SatelliteYears
11.28.11 | Amazing list, great job. :) |
Eclecticist
11.28.11 | Just do some browsing, there is some credible literature that has been written on the history of certain metal movements and artists. |
Valerius
11.28.11 | Eh. Actually I'm reading RYM. If Carcass, Entombed, Napalm Death and others are giving respect to these guys, it makes you look like you are full of shit Frank. |
Valerius
11.28.11 | Nothing new, though, considering my last talk with you about hip hop.
zzz |
combustion07
11.28.11 | Horrified was in fact recorded in 1986 and released as a demo with a different title. I can't recall
what the name was though, it wasn't officially released as Horrified until 89 or 90. Honestly
Repulsion- Horrified, Napalm Death- Scum, and any of the early Sore Throat releases were probably the
biggest influence on grind imo. Scum probably had more influence overall because it hit a wider
audience much earlier than Horrified did. And don't give me that mainstream success bullshit when it
comes to these releases, we all know damn well that at this time grindcore wasn't a "mainstream"
thing. |
FrankRedHot
11.28.11 | Our last talk about hip hop? Where you referred to Master P as "real hip hop?" |
tarkus
11.28.11 | "What have Godflesh to do with doom or sludge?"
holy shit you are a dumbass |
combustion07
11.28.11 | That's the general consensus |
tarkus
11.28.11 | That's the general consensus
yeah I would hope that it is |
Valerius
11.28.11 | LOL. That's a good one, Frank. No, Master P is gangster rap. The hip hop I was referring to was the Sugarhill Gang conversation. You've never heard me say Master P is hip hop, jackass. Just shut the fuck up and get back to metal. |
combustion07
11.28.11 | If we should get anything out of this conversation it should be that Sore Throat slays
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsP9cKXO5ng |
FrankRedHot
11.28.11 | Our conversation about the Sugahil Gang ended when I proved you were wrong and you never responded again, so what are you talking about? |
Keyblade
11.28.11 | all i know is that this guy's ratings and username are embarassing |
Bandido
11.28.11 | Already been said but Machine Head is absolutely essential for this list |
Bandido
11.28.11 | As in the album by Deep Purple not the band |
NWOAHM666
11.28.11 | "How am I obviously not better? Lol. If you're referring to this thread, no one's mocking me as they are you, buddy. Once again, learn to read."
You didn't understand that I was answering those guys by (sarcastically) joining their mockery.
@ Valerius
MA calls Repulsion the first grindcore band as well, but their demos recorded as Genocide are the ones that maybe should be here.
"Also, where is Hellhammer???"
CF had more of an impact and I felt unwilling to put Tom G. Warrior here twice since he never gave me anything.
(other than awesome music of course, but it was a joke...) |
taylormemer
11.28.11 | Dude it's time to let this one go. |
Keyblade
11.28.11 | "MA calls Repulsion the first grindcore band as well, but their demos recorded as Genocide are the ones that maybe should be here. "
yeah because MA is the be all and end all of metal |
stabbler
11.28.11 | listening to music is fun too |
Wizard
11.28.11 | Man I hate lists like this. |
Wizard
11.28.11 | Oh, and Slipknot is nu-metal through and through. |
FrankRedHot
11.28.11 | Stop deleting my comments you enormous pussy. |
NWOAHM666
11.28.11 | "Stop deleting my comments you enormous pussy."
I don't keep empty beer cans, if you get what I mean. |
FrankRedHot
11.28.11 | "I don't keep empty beer cans, if you get what I mean."
Like you're old enough to drink. |
NWOAHM666
11.28.11 | "Like you're old enough to drink."
I am. |
FrankRedHot
11.28.11 | What is the drinking age where you live? 13? Or is it one of those places where the women have huge, nasty, sagging breasts and run around with a child attached to one of them? They don't have a drinking age. |
NWOAHM666
11.28.11 | "What is the drinking age where you live?"
16. |
Emim
11.28.11 | "Lamb of God
New American Gospel
Set the standards for deathcore."
Late to the party, but what the fuck |
FrankRedHot
11.28.11 | lol |
ShadowRemains
11.28.11 | wow this kept going
entertaining. |
MO
11.28.11 | you can always rely on pit for that |
YUJOS
02.18.12 | Great list man! Good work! |
