Recspecs: The Official Euro 2012 Thread

Recspecs 05.31.12	Group A: Russia and Czech Republic Group B: Group of Death, Netherlands and Germany Group C: Croatia and Spain. That's right. I have Croatia winning Group C. Group D: France and England. France finally has their shit together, but don't be surprised if Zlatan can sneak the Swedes through. And of course, I have Netherlands winning it all. Although I wouldn't mind if Germany won.
coneren 05.31.12	Niggers rule
Tyrael 05.31.12	I'm belgian my country sucks hard at football
Adabelle 05.31.12	Balotelli is a boss. Czech Republic wont get through the group, pffffft
Pentagon 05.31.12	"I'm belgian my country sucks hard at football" Belgium have an amazing squad bro. You have Hazard, Lukaku, Kompany, Vertongen...
Adabelle 05.31.12	Tyraelxy, you have Hazard, Kompany, Fellaini, Mignolet, Vermaelen, Lukaku, some great players EDIT\| Lol, beaten to it
Tyrael 05.31.12	Yeah we have a great squad TOO BAD WE ALWAYS LOSE LOL
Recspecs 05.31.12	Yeah Belgium is solid.
Rail 05.31.12	A: Russia and Poland B: Germany and Portugal. C: Spain and Croatia D: France and England Germany to win the thing. Though all I'm hoping for is that Van Persie doesn't end up breaking his legs.
Pentagon 05.31.12	Group A: Poland Russia Group B: Germany, Netherlands Group C:Spain, Italy Group D:England, Ukraine
Recspecs 05.31.12	turntable.fm/mangasm
Adabelle 05.31.12	A: Russia and Poland. B: Germany and Portugal. C: Spain and Italy. D: France and England.
Recspecs 05.31.12	LOL Ukraine is awful the tournament is going to be a mess because of them.
rockandmetaljunkie 05.31.12	lol that's great. An official Euro thread on Sputnik.
rockandmetaljunkie 05.31.12	Btw Netherlands and Germany are going nowhere.
InnocentShadow 05.31.12	I haven't watched football in ages, but based off my prior knowledge, I predict: A: Czech and Poland B: Germany and Netherlands C: Italy and Spain D: France and England
Pentagon 05.31.12	"LOL Ukraine is awful the tournament is going to be a mess because of them." I used to live in Ukraine, and the tournament is going to be shitty probably. Most people are quite open to being racist, and its hilarious how Ukrainian hotels increased prices by over 400 percent in order to get money, but now nobody is going. This was a chance for it to show itself, but so far its fucked up badly
Recspecs 05.31.12	"Btw Netherlands and Germany are going nowhere." LMAO
Recspecs 05.31.12	"I used to live in Ukraine, and the tournament is going to be shitty probably. Most people are quite open to being racist, and its hilarious how Ukrainian hotels increased prices by over 400 percent in order to get money, but now nobody is going. This was a chance for it to show itself, but so far its fucked up badly" Yeah the tournament is going to be a joke now because of those bastards. turntable.fm/mangasm get in here faggots.
rockandmetaljunkie 05.31.12	A: Poland and Russia B: Germany and Portugal C: Croatia and Spain D: Sweden and England Hopefully Greece will make it to the next phase. Although, it is very difficult.
Adabelle 05.31.12	Yeah doubt you'll get many from here in turntable b/c still US only...
Recspecs 05.31.12	Glad I'm not the only one who could see Croatia beating Spain.
coneren 05.31.12	do you think nadal will get any tennis hits in
thumbcrusher 05.31.12	it'll be the usual quarter final defeat on penalties to portugal for england.
Recspecs 05.31.12	England might do well this year, only time will tell I guess.
rockandmetaljunkie 05.31.12	There are always high expectations for England and they always turn everyone down. This tournament won't be an exception.
Knott- 05.31.12	Lol we're taking Jordan Henderson. This is going to be fucking hilarious.
thumbcrusher 05.31.12	yeah we've had to resort to henderson so it'll probably go to the shitter just have to wait for a tournament where wilshire is fit and rooney hasn't kicked ny macedonians.
rockandmetaljunkie 05.31.12	Too bad for Lampard. This tournament could be his last one. Most probably.
Knott- 05.31.12	OH WELL. WE'LL PROBABLY COPE.
TheNotrap 05.31.12	Group A: Czech Republic and Russia Group B: Germany and Portugal Group C: Italy, and Spain Group D: England and France I believe Germany has the best squad at the moment.
thumbcrusher 05.31.12	yeah that's a shame i've never really got why he gets such a hard time from england fans, 23 (+1 against germany) goals from midfield speks for itself and had previous managers not been stubborn with 4-4-2 so as to fuck up his and gerrard's game he would have probably got even more.
Rail 05.31.12	Brilliant that England could have £60 million of midfield talent on display: Downing, Milner and Henderson. Add that to £35 million Andy Carroll and you've got to worry for the likes of Spain.
rockandmetaljunkie 05.31.12	I never understood why Gerrard and Lampard couldn't cooperate together.
AliW1993 05.31.12	Russia Poland Germany Netherlands Spain Croatia France Ukraine France will win it.
MalleusMaleficarum 05.31.12	Greece / Czech Republic Germany / Netherlands Spain / Croatia Sweden / England
Recspecs 05.31.12	"Add that to £35 million Andy Carroll and you've got to worry for the likes of Spain." LOL Carroll is a sorry cunt.
Pentagon 05.31.12	"it'll be the usual quarter final defeat on penalties to portugal for england." lol portugal wont get through the group stage.
Thane 05.31.12	make a fantasy team on uefa.com guys. its fun. we could have a sputnik league. hard to say who will win it judging from the recent friendly games. i'd say Spain.
coneren 05.31.12	i remember when jordan got that slam dunk fuck i love soccer fuckin rights gay list though
thumbcrusher 05.31.12	germany/portugal it'll be the same result either way for england why the hell isn't crouch going if they want someone to hoof the ball up to. at least he scores once in a while.
Eclecticist 05.31.12	News from today: Time is running out for Spain and their debt-crisis http://www.economist.com/node/21556238?fsrc=scn%2Ftw%2Fte%2Far%2Fhowtosavespain Greece stays in the Eurozone after all http://www.athensnews.gr/portal/8/55967
Recspecs 05.31.12	"make a fantasy team on uefa.com guys. its fun. we could have a sputnik league." Link me I'll do it.
FelixCulpa 05.31.12	A: Russia, Czech B: Germany, Netherlands C: Spain, Italy D: France, Sweden Graduation soon, football, E3 the next two weeks are gonna be awesome.
rockandmetaljunkie 05.31.12	"why the hell isn't crouch going if they want someone to hoof the ball up to. at least he scores once in a while" so true...
The7thVermicide 05.31.12	Netherlands can win this Cup. By the way, Ballotelli is funny as hell
J0ckstrapsFTW 05.31.12	I hope netherlands win. Im a Van Persie fan myself
Thane 05.31.12	http://en.euro2012fantasy.uefa.com/ there are probably better out there, but that's the one my friends are using at least.
Recspecs 05.31.12	I jerk off to RvP on a regular basis. And yeah Balotelli is a character.
The7thVermicide 05.31.12	What do you want? Be Remembered
wabbit 05.31.12	Why would anyone think that Spain wouldn't win? Group A: Russia and I dunno. Greece sometimes can bore the other team into a draw so they could take it. Group B: Germany and Portugal. Netherlands are going to choke. Group C: Spain and Croatia Group D: England and I dunno. If france wins their first game they'll get through if they lose it'll be either of the other two.
Nocturnal 05.31.12	Wtf carrolls on the england squad?
Shuyin 05.31.12	i wanted Portugal to do good, but they lack team play imo, and Ronaldo wants to be the star of the show all the time but always end up fucking things up.. idk if they can qualify tbh.
ZombieParty 05.31.12	I want England to win but they probably won't. I think it will be between Spain, Germany or Netherlands
Thane 05.31.12	poland should get through tbh, they have a pretty good team now. hope they will shock and beat out one of the big teams. lewandowski and kuba rule.
Adabelle 06.01.12	Lewandowski, Blazyckchowski! (Spelling is a guess haha)
AliW1993 06.01.12	Team picked. Anyone created a league yet?
Adabelle 06.01.12	214358-49481
Adabelle 06.01.12	And for the H2H league.. 214358-49498 If someone had already made a league I can delete them
bakkermaarten007 06.01.12	I hope Germany wins it and beat Spain in the final, hope Netherlands and England make it to the semi- finals.
AliW1993 06.01.12	Joined.
Recspecs 06.01.12	As long as Spain loses, I am content.
Thane 06.01.12	joined we need moar ppl
Recspecs 06.01.12	I'll figure it out when I get home in a bit.
thumbcrusher 06.01.12	joined, though i'm regretting putting walcott in already
Rail 06.01.12	Gonna join soon and pick Chamberlain. No regrets.
insomniac15 06.01.12	Holland needs to win.
AliW1993 06.01.12	I'm desperate for Cabaye and Ben Arfa to have poor tournaments so the vultures don't come circling...
Kiran 06.01.12	A: Russia, Poland B: Germany, Netherlands C: Spain, Croatia D: France, Sweden Heja Sverige.
Transient 06.01.12	gonna predict / assume that england will choke in the group stages
Kiran 06.01.12	hopefully.
DominionMM1 06.01.12	I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Germany's gonna take this one.
Dreamflight 06.01.12	"i wanted Portugal to do good, but they lack team play imo, and Ronaldo wants to be the star of the show all the time but always end up fucking things up.. idk if they can qualify tbh." The only thing we lack is a proper coach dude.
Kiran 06.01.12	are postiga and almeda still filling up that centre forward role for portugal?
Dreamflight 06.01.12	Sure they are, and that's our biggest problem. Almeida is not really bad, but Postiga is reason enough to garantee a few lols on our games. We also have Nelson Oliveira, who can be a great player in the near future, bue he's still too green.
Rail 06.01.12	Does Ronaldo not play up front for Portugal? Seems to work well enough for Madrid.
bakkermaarten007 06.01.12	Oh, my prediction: A:Russia, Greece (I believe their economic crisis will give them resilience in sports) B: Germany, Netherlands C: Spain, Italy D: England, France
Kiran 06.01.12	Benzema has been playing centre forward for Madrid, Ronaldo is a winger.
Dreamflight 06.01.12	Yap, both tatics are very similar, but I think in RM Ronaldo has much more freedom in the attack then a regular winger, who most of the times need to go back and help the WB.
Kiran 06.01.12	Strikers aside, seeing Nani and Ronaldo cutting in from the wings could shake things up in that group, especially with Pieters' injury for the Netherlands meaning their weaker defense is weakened further. I see Germany going through but between Portugal and the Netherlands it could be pretty tight and might even fall to their results with Denmark, who are a very underestimated team.
Rail 06.01.12	"Benzema has been playing centre forward for Madrid, Ronaldo is a winger." Last time I saw Ronaldo play as a traditional winger was about 5 years ago. He tends to push up alongside Benzema/Higuain, hence why he scores alot of headed goals and tap-ins. Agree with what you said about the Dutch defense though. They've had to rely on the same average players for too many years, and I think little Eriksen and his range of passing could make them look very foolish.
Capablanca 06.01.12	---
Capablanca 06.01.12	Group A: Czech Republic - Russia Group B: Germany - Netherlands Group C: Spain - Italy Group D: England - Sweden QUARTERFINALS Czech Republic vs Netherlands (winner Netherlands) Spain - Sweden (winner Spain) Germany - Russia (winner Germany) England - Italy (this one's hard to predict but I'll go for Italy)
Capablanca 06.01.12	SEMIFINALS Netherlands - Spain (Dutch team wins) Germany - Italy (Germany) FINAL Netherlands - Germany (Germany wins the Cup)
Rail 06.01.12	In his spare time, Capablanca is an octopus.
bakkermaarten007 06.01.12	"In his spare time, Capablanca is an octopus." lol
Capablanca 06.01.12	haha I was bored and you can get all the information quite easily anyway.
DominionMM1 06.01.12	i'm really hoping the czechs can do something significant.
Adabelle 06.01.12	Join the league bump.
AliW1993 06.01.12	make a league list, it'll probably get featured.
Kiran 06.01.12	I see what you mean, Rail, although I'd still be hesitant to say he fills the same sort of role centre forwards like Ibrahimovic or Carroll occupy, which is what I was referring to with the Portuguese line up, as they've traditionally played a sole striker like Postiga or Almeida at tournaments.
Kiran 06.01.12	and I totally agree about Eriksen, he's bound to do some damage this year.
Pentagon 06.01.12	Nah dude, Eriksen is vastly overrated. I mean he's still young, but he does too many useless little flicks. he definitely has some potential though
Recspecs 06.01.12	HOLY FUCK MY FIRST FEATURED LIST
Recspecs 06.01.12	I keep forgetting to join that league, dammit I'll do it in a bit.
Esky 06.01.12	After the amazing/lunatic/incredibly nerve-wracking last few weeks of the Premier League season, I'm looking forward to watching football without the stress of supporting one of the teams involved. And as above, it's amazing the Belgian national team hasn't got it together, yet. Add Defour, Witsel, Mirallas, Nainggolan, Courtois, De Bruyne. Under the right management, they should do some damage in the next few years.
Recspecs 06.01.12	The Verminator and Kompany deserve success at the international level, yes.
Dolving999 06.01.12	This is gonna be Portugal's year, oh yeah.
Recspecs 06.01.12	^ lol.
BroFro 06.01.12	I'd really like to see the Dutch win the whole thing, I was really pulling for them in the World Cup. But with that being said... go GREECE.
AliW1993 06.02.12	Belgium will be one of the top 5 in the world by the next world cup imo.
Esky 06.02.12	Wonder who the Milan Baros type player will be this time? Good at the tournament, bought for big money then can't replicate that form.
Dreamflight 06.02.12	I'll bet my money on Artem Milevskyi. ahah Guys how about some futurology about the best player of the tournment? I'd say Muller or Ribery.
thumbcrusher 06.02.12	hopefully ashely young has a good tournament, engalnd need him to... but it probably iniesta, he always does well at tournaments.
fish. 06.02.12	what dyall think of my dream team still in the works GK: Casillas DF: Anyukov, Chiellini, Arbeloa, Rami/Koscielny MF: Ozil, Sneijder, Dzagoev/Ribery F: Cassano, Huntelaar, Klose/Pavlyuchenko also lol portugal. they're in the same group as germany, netherlands and the team that topped their qualifying group. "I'm looking forward to watching football without the stress of supporting one of the teams involved." I have to support two teams and they both happen to be in the same group and have their first game against each other yay coincidences A: Russia, Czech Rep B: Germany, Netherlands C: Spain, Italy (although without D Villa I reckon this could be close) D: France, England (this one's a crap shoot tbh).
fish. 06.02.12	France, after their awful world cup campaign, have done much better. Got a better manager, revamped the team, got better results. Beat Germany 2-1 away in February. I reckon they could do some damage. (Thank fuck M'Vila isn't seriously injured). I think England are gonna start doing better. I really believe Roy Hodgson was the right choice and he's gonna make the team much tighter, but at this short notice and without Rooney or Lampard, they're fucked. Actually they might only come 3rd, with Sweden 2nd.
fish. 06.02.12	Hang on if I join this dream team thingy I'm gonna have to adapt cos I was basing mine on another site's. Hang on how do you this
Bloodbirds 06.02.12	Portugal actually have a decent midfield with Moutinho/Meireles/Nani. Their defence is also not shabby with Pepe/Coentrao/Rolando/Pereira. Depends on how they play on the day though.
fish. 06.02.12	nah they're fucked
Dreamflight 06.02.12	If only we had a great RB like Bosingwa or a an amazing CB like Ricardo Carvalho...oh wait.
Bloodbirds 06.02.12	Maybe. And England would be better off playing Ox in the centre over Jordan Henderson. I still don't get how the clowns from Liverpool ('cept Gerrard) made it to the squad.
VisionsFromTheDarkSide 06.02.12	Bosingwa really isn't that good
fish. 06.02.12	Woah this UEFA one's much more complicated than the one I was using before Gonna have to think this through
AliW1993 06.02.12	Lol Jordan Henderson Pretty sure he got called up purely to curb expectations
Sanders 06.02.12	Fucking love Balotelli. Anyone who sets fire to his house by setting off fireworks in his bathroom is a winner in my books
Thane 06.02.12	yea anachist, you should read the rules page then its fairly easy to get into. need to make some changes after these frienly matches. russia, damn.
Recspecs 06.02.12	I'm not even sure what my favorite Balotelli fable is. Could someone link me to the fantasy league please? I'll edit the list as well and throw it up there.
fish. 06.02.12	gotta cash in on russia holy shit just seen they beat italy 3-0. fuck. 13 over budget. hmmmmm
Pentagon 06.02.12	Lol Russia are always team who can spring a surprise or two (Euro 2008 against Holland)
Recspecs 06.02.12	LINK PLZZZ
fish. 06.02.12	http://en.euro2012fantasy.uefa.com was linked earlier
Knott- 06.02.12	HAHAHAHA did somebody just call Bosingwa "great"?! Holy fuck that's silly.
rockandmetaljunkie 06.02.12	Well right now Portugal doesn't have an alternative option for the RB position. Or do you guys think P. Ferreira would be a better selection ?
Knott- 06.02.12	I didn't say anything like that?
fish. 06.02.12	can't work out who the first choice russian goalkeeper is grrrrr
thumbcrusher 06.02.12	surely akinfeev?
fish. 06.02.12	it looks like it but as far as I can tell Malafeev played "67%" of russia's qualifiers
thumbcrusher 06.02.12	oh... well, they gave akinfeev the no.1 so i'd go with him
ilikesexpauseNOT 06.02.12	kazahkstan will win it all
fish. 06.02.12	finally got the whole squad complete and fitted within the budget (with literally none of the budget left over). wondering if I'm gonna regret not putting a german striker there but I can change it if I need to
Kiran 06.02.12	"I still don't get how the clowns from Liverpool ('cept Gerrard) made it to the squad." good old woy has a maternal connection to his old liverpool boys
thumbcrusher 06.02.12	but he didn't manage carroll, henderson or downing at liverpool - the 3 who shouldn't be in the squad
Dreamflight 06.02.12	"HAHAHAHA did somebody just call Bosingwa "great"?! Holy fuck that's silly." I did, thanks for pointing that out.
Dreamflight 06.02.12	Joined too.
BroFro 06.02.12	I joined both them leagues boys
Recspecs 06.02.12	Andy Carroll is such a fucking toolbox.
thumbcrusher 06.02.12	belgium can't shoot at all
Recspecs 06.02.12	They should just put The Verminator as a lone striker and let him go to work.
thumbcrusher 06.02.12	i'm glad welbeck scored, so hopefully he'll start up front instead of carroll. defoe looked lively too so carroll will be fourth choice with any luck haha
Rail 06.02.12	Man, Holland are absolutely battering us at the moment. Could see this one finishing 8 or 9-0.
Recspecs 06.02.12	RVP
Rail 06.02.12	Yeah, I wanna cheer 'cause I support Arsenal but at the same time he's destroying my country. Afellay's looking really handy; could be a bargain if Barca decide to get rid.
Thane 06.02.12	barca won't get rid of afellay, and thank fuck for that, he is awesome. hopefully he'll stay injury free next season. afellay - messi - sanchez. yes.
Oblivioncry 06.02.12	i hope for my country germany to win but i think we will only manage to get 3rd place, if at all :( the team can manage to play beautifully but once under pressure they seem to lose all their "fun" and just stand around without ANY idea....the thing is they don't have players who "fight" when nothing else works. i don't wish for players like ballack to get back, but the new players should atleast be more like klose who never loses his spirit and fights his way through.
fish. 06.02.12	This makes my dream team harder to pick. Huntelaar or RVP...
fish. 06.02.12	Or Klose or Gomez. At least it's an easy choice not picking any Portugese
Thane 06.02.12	what a game by the netherlands. maybe I should drop schweinsteiger or özil so that i can afford van persie. i'm not sure afellay will play as much.
fish. 06.02.12	Oh yeah, might replace Ozil with Sneijder. Makes it much more difficult and interesting when there're the groups there are
fish. 06.02.12	Or even Afellay at this rate
Thane 06.02.12	yeah, that's the problem i'm having too. midfielders lose points when their team concedes a goal. could just sub the germans out for that one game against the netherlands though.
AngelofDeath 06.02.12	Can't wait to see Germany and Portugal play.
Nagrarok 06.02.12	With that 6-0 against Northern Ireland the excitement here is growing again, the previous practice matches were dissapointing to say the least. Denmark, Germany and Portugal won't make it easy on Holland, but I do so hope 'we' can settle the score with Spain.
Pentagon 06.02.12	I really hope Afellay leaves Barca, I doubt he will get the playing time he deserves with them
fish. 06.02.12	Portugal are gonna finish 4th in their group. Just lost 3-1 at home to Turkey and they've been doing awful lately
fish. 06.02.12	http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/3396/euro-2012/2012/06/01/3141878/van-persie-unsure-of-netherlands-starting-place-at-euro-2012 It's a real toss up between RVP and Huntelaar, don't know which to go with. They were born within 6 days of each other too
Rail 06.02.12	I'd forget them and go with Torres. I've got a good feeling about him in the group stage, at least. And he's only 8.5million in the game.
Dreamflight 06.02.12	"Portugal are gonna finish 4th in their group." If that means a coach sacking, then I'm all for it. YUP HOLLAND.
fish. 06.02.12	Nah, Spain seem like more of a low scoring, low conceding kind of team, and if I were to pick any Spaniard it would've been David Villa but he's out.
sportsboy 06.02.12	i'm dutch and an arsenal fan easy choice for supporting also germany makes me moist
thumbcrusher 06.02.12	i went for llorente, though i just looked at his wikipedia page and he hasn't scored for spain since 2010 so i'm gonna go and change that
Rail 06.02.12	"Nah, Spain seem like more of a low scoring, low conceding kind of team" They've scored 41 goals in their last 15 matches. I dunno, I don't think they'll win the tournament but I can easily see them putting a few past Italy and Ireland.
fish. 06.02.12	Is there really as much of a Dutch-German hatred as people make out?
Nagrarok 06.02.12	It used to be much worse.
fish. 06.02.12	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup#Knockout_stage Look at Spain. Another issue is that Spain's goals are really spread out among their players so I wouldn't know who to pick anyway
Thane 06.02.12	"I really hope Afellay leaves Barca, I doubt he will get the playing time he deserves with them" if he keeps this form going he will be way better than pedro so he'll get the playing time. he has been injured for like 6 months so I love seeing him play this well
Rail 06.02.12	I'd be more inclined to refer to Euro 2008, where they scored 8 in the group stage. But anyway, trying to predict tournament football can be a bit of a crapshoot. Except for cephalopods.
Pentagon 06.02.12	"It's a real toss up between RVP and Huntelaar, don't know which to go with. They were born within 6 days of each other too" RVP just scored a brace, so I suppose Huntelaar wont get much playing time at the Euros.
Shuyin 06.02.12	yup, Portugal is pretty much fucked. and ronaldo refused to give an autograph to a fan just because she was wearing a barcelona shirt, what a fucking idiot.
Rail 06.02.12	He should've told her to take it off, then given her the sleazy Ronaldo Wink™.
Shuyin 06.02.12	lmao but it was a girl, around 10 years old or so.
Rail 06.02.12	I doubt that would've stopped him! That is a pretty shitty thing to do though. When I was around that age, I asked Ronald De Boer for a photograph outside Ibrox but he wouldn't give it to me because I had called him Frank, the name of his twin brother.
thumbcrusher 06.02.12	i got snubbed by nicolas anelka once when i asked for his autograph, though that's hardly surprising
fish. 06.02.12	Huntelaar was the euro qualifiers top scorer by a mile though
Aids 06.02.12	if Holland or Germany doesn't win then something has gone horribly wrong. Spain might pull off a repeat though I suppose. I'm backing Holland.
blastOFFitsPARTYtime 06.02.12	The Netherlands should do it. Croatia's my team - I reckon they could make the semis.
Recspecs 06.03.12	Created a team, what's the name of the league I should join?
fish. 06.03.12	214358-49481 and 214358-49498
thumbcrusher 06.03.12	why have 46.7% people selected martin olsson?!
fish. 06.03.12	4 goals in 8 games and he's a defender I think don't think it's a good enough reason to pick him though
Kiran 06.03.12	martin olsson is a great, attacking defender for the cheapest price possible. obviously a lot of people will have picked him to fill their subs and/or to spend more on attacking players.
fish. 06.03.12	made 6 transfers, gotten rid of both of my italians lost all my confidence in italy
fish. 06.03.12	not sure whether to put m'vila in or not. he's a good player but as a defensive midfielder he won't get many points as a midfielder. might not even be fit for the games
AliW1993 06.03.12	What exactly has Martin Kelly done to merit a place in the England squad?
thumbcrusher 06.03.12	last i heard m'vila could be injured so unless you've heard otherwise since it would be risk picking him
thumbcrusher 06.03.12	what the fuck, ahead of richards and smalling too?!
AliW1993 06.03.12	Rio Ferdinand is the one I feel sorry for the most, so much for his exclusion having nothing to do with the whole Terry saga.
thumbcrusher 06.03.12	oh god yeah, i think he should have been picked ahead terry purely on footballing reasons anyway
AliW1993 06.03.12	Yeah same. If places are to be decided through performances rather than reputation, Lescott and Jagielka have to the first choice centre-back pairing. But we all know that's not going to happen.
Pentagon 06.03.12	are you seriously saying Rio is better than Terry? Lol, Terry is a complete twat, but Rio has had an extremely underwhelming season this year.
fish. 06.03.12	"last i heard m'vila could be injured so unless you've heard otherwise since it would be risk picking him" yeah it was in the serbian game, I watched it. apparently he's clear though Cahill on the other hand, has been injured, so I have to replace him. fuck Dries Mertens fucking cunt should have an international ban for that
Recspecs 06.03.12	Fuck it, I have M'Vila in the midfield anyways. I should probably sell Schweinsteiger so I can get a better defender than Olson, but I don't give a fuck.
andcas 06.03.12	hockey.
Recspecs 06.03.12	Reported.
fish. 06.03.12	what's so great about Schweinsteiger anyway? it's all about Ozil
Rail 06.03.12	It's all about Ozil [2] Damn Gary Cahill and his marshmallow jaw. Have to take him out but won't pick Terry or Cole on principle. Who do we think will start, Jagielka or Lescott?
Recspecs 06.03.12	I have faith in Schweinsteiger. My squad might be a poorly made, but as long as they beat Ali it's okay.
fish. 06.03.12	seriously though wanna punch mertens' fucking face in ugh how can you deliberately break someone's jaw and only get a booking? "Who do we think will start, Jagielka or Lescott?" I'd go with Lescott but I'm not even replacing him with another english defender
Recspecs 06.03.12	I'm revamping my entire team. I'm investing all my money in great defenders and buying cheaper strikers that I know can finish.....even if it means transferring RVP :(
fish. 06.03.12	Everyone's going with RVP but it's a 50/50 toss up between RVP and Huntelaar as the Netherlands' first choice. I'm gonna be so happy if the manager picks Huntelaar but I hope they announce something in time for me to transfer to RVP if he's picked Might go with Podolski as well. Can't quite afford Klose. Damn, so many great German players. At least with Netherlands you know it's Sneijder and then Huntelaar/RVP.
Recspecs 06.03.12	I don't have enough for Sneijder since I am investing in an expensive defense and fairly decent midfield.
Recspecs 06.03.12	Fuck it, I'll make room for him.
fish. 06.03.12	I don't have him either, for now. My plan involves cheapish defence but I wouldn't want to reveal the details in case you steal my idea >:) Hmmm, Podolski, Schurrle or Muller..
Pentagon 06.03.12	Podolski
thumbcrusher 06.03.12	ooh rio's kicking off on twitter
fish. 06.03.12	I picked Schurrle, he's scored 1 in 2 games and he's slightly cheaper so I might be able to squeeze in Sneijder or someone.
DoubtGin 06.03.12	haha Portugal got screwed by us
fish. 06.03.12	Portugal and Italy are gonna bomb
Recspecs 06.03.12	Lol I took all of my Italian players off of my squad, although I considered putting Balotelli in case of a fight.
Dreamflight 06.03.12	"Hmmm, Podolski, Schurrle or Muller.." Muller!!!!
fish. 06.03.12	"Lol I took all of my Italian players off of my squad" me too almost put an italian defender there, woops "although I considered putting Balotelli in case of a fight." balotelli would just get booked/sent off and lose you points though. if any italian scores it'll be cassano
H61 06.03.12	Spain will retain it
fish. 06.03.12	hmmmm, Ashley Young or Juan Mata..
Recspecs 06.03.12	Ashley Young
fish. 06.03.12	yeah I've gone with him ended up with M'Vila anyway keep changing my squad though. Probably changed half of it today
Recspecs 06.03.12	I wish there was a women's tournament so I could stack my team with babes.
fish. 06.03.12	god you're so black
fish. 06.03.12	anyone know why Polanski has been picked so much?
Recspecs 06.03.12	Probably because he is so cheap.
Thane 06.03.12	afellay and van persie + özil and gomez m/ i'm gonna have to gamble for the germany - netherlands game when it comes to subbing. fuck.
thumbcrusher 06.03.12	I saw your error Thane don't pretend it didn't happen!
Thane 06.03.12	hahahahaha yeah I read that wrong
fish. 06.03.12	still not sure whether to go safe with gomez at the expense of a good midfielder or take a risk and go ashley young + andre schurrle
thumbcrusher 06.03.12	klose will probably start so i wouldn't spend a load on gomez
Pentagon 06.03.12	Idk dude Ashley Young has scored or assisted 11 of Englands last 20 goals, while Gomez is probably a safe bet to score one or two goals in the tournament. Schurrie and YOung are on a roll though so Id probably go with them
Adabelle 06.03.12	Lol at you people. I have Bendtner, Carroll and O'Shea in my team.
thumbcrusher 06.03.12	I was supportive of hodgson's appointment but the more i think about this liverpool bum fest the more bizzare it becomes. Does he really think Kelly, Henderson, Downing, or Carroll are better than any of Ferdinand, Smalling, Richards, Adam Johnson, Carrick, Lennon, Crouch or Sturridge?!
Shuyin 06.03.12	'haha Portugal got screwed by us' fuck you very much. no seriously we're gonna get raped hard in this tournament.. and we have an all star team.
Pawpnbawtlez 06.03.12	spain spain spain babyyyyyy. going to be alot of fun in barcelona for the games.
thumbcrusher 06.03.12	do they like the spanish team or catalonia team more there?
barcafan21 06.03.12	pleasepleaseplease can we have a spain germany final? they're clearly the two best teams and they also both play the most stylish soccer.
barcafan21 06.03.12	also, hodgson is an idiot.
Shuyin 06.03.12	'can we have a spain germany final?' no.
barcafan21 06.03.12	yes
Dreamflight 06.03.12	no [2]
Recspecs 06.03.12	"pleasepleaseplease can we have a spain germany final? they're clearly the two best teams and they also both play the most stylish soccer." Lol have you been watching the game for like two years?
fish. 06.04.12	"we have an all star team." lol
fish. 06.04.12	croatia or the republic of ireland?
Shuyin 06.04.12	Turkey
thumbcrusher 06.04.12	turkey were awesome to watch at euro 2008, i was quite disappointed they didn't qualify this time around
fish. 06.04.12	wondering who to play as a defender. a czech, a croat, an englishman or a greek
Adabelle 06.04.12	My defence is currently O'Shea, Willems, Boateng and Piszczek haha. 17 people now in the Sputnik league..
Thane 06.04.12	the greeks will probably park the plane, so a defender from there wouldn't be bad, but you never know.. this is hard.
fish. 06.04.12	I'm actually pretty pleased with my team. Quite even all round with few weaker players, I think
fish. 06.04.12	except maybe Gekas
Bloodbirds 06.04.12	Nobody's picking Benzema ?
barcafan21 06.04.12	whoa, what's this sputnik league? and can i join?
thumbcrusher 06.04.12	http://en.euro2012fantasy.uefa.com/ classic style league: 214358-49481 head to head league: 214358-49498
barcafan21 06.04.12	which league do i join?
Pentagon 06.04.12	'the greeks will probably park the plane, so a defender from there wouldn't be bad, but you never know.. this is hard.' Yeah bro, Ive got Papadopulous (or whatever his name is) in my defence, as well as Jordi Alba, Terry and Stekelenburg. For some reason the dutch and spanish play lots of 1-0 games, and knowing Hodgson England will be well-drilled as a defensive unit.
thumbcrusher 06.04.12	you can join both
barcafan21 06.04.12	excellent, thanks man
thumbcrusher 06.04.12	no problem, the more people the better!
fish. 06.04.12	"Nobody's picking Benzema ?" he's good, but there are better strikers for the same price
fish. 06.04.12	wow, been looking round on goal.com, the amount of hate england gets from other european countries is pretty big
Metalstyles 06.04.12	Joined the league. I'm no master tactician so my fantasy team mainly consists of players that I like. In other words, I'll probably be lurking somewhere near the bottom, but hey, these things are always fun. And on that note, go Czechs!
thumbcrusher 06.04.12	lol anarchist you're right "y r u stupid english fanz gettin over excited u wont win the euros never! even the world cup, u wont win anyting itz u lot u talk too much dats how u lose, the whole naton is a flop, football,cricket,tennis jus name it u aint gna win the euros anyway by the way i am dutch!"
barcafan21 06.04.12	also, for advancing group a- russia, poland group b- germany, netherlands group c- spain, italy group d- france, england
Kiran 06.04.12	england gets a lot of stick from other fans around euro time because the english media is notorious for the colossal amount of hype and noise they build around their team and naturally there's a backlash to that. also, as you can see from the post you copied, the disgruntled contingent isn't generally the most intelligent.
Bloodbirds 06.04.12	@Anarchist - But France is in a relatively easy group, so he should be scoring. Hopefully.
barcafan21 06.04.12	ibrahimovic will do better than benzema, and he's cheaper
phishing 06.04.12	everybody knows goal.com is a bit of a joke, just look at any pre-match predictions for real madrid/barcelona and the overwhelming majority have went for 8-0... which happens on a weekly basis.
phishing 06.04.12	Ibra doesn't do internationals
barcafan21 06.04.12	hopefully he shows up this time around, but generally you're right. he played well in a recent friendly against iceland, so maybe it's his year.
fish. 06.04.12	"@Anarchist - But France is in a relatively easy group, so he should be scoring. Hopefully." Maybe. Ribery's starting to see his club form enter his international play so he could be a good, although risky, choice. A bit expensive though. "england gets a lot of stick from other fans around euro time because the english media is notorious for the colossal amount of hype and noise they build around their team and naturally there's a backlash to that. " lol this is true but even english people realise that the media hype is complete crap. I actually think we have really good players, it's just that they fail to replicate it at international level. Possibly cos of the really intense EPL seasons just before the big tournaments.
fish. 06.04.12	Which also means England constantly has injuries just before big tournaments. At full form I reckon England would regularly reach the QF/SFs
DominionMM1 06.04.12	go Czechs! [2]
barcafan21 06.04.12	i just dropped ibra for lewandowski, despite my arguments for him earlier. am i crazy?
Thane 06.04.12	"i just dropped ibra for lewandowski, despite my arguments for him earlier. am i crazy?" i wouldn't say you're crazy, Lewandowski is great, but I think russia will beat poland, and I don't see poland scoring against greece. you never know, though. I originally had both Lewandowski and Kuba in my team, but changed them out for russian players after the recent friendly matches.
fish. 06.04.12	great players like that are nothing without the rest of the squad to back them up
barcafan21 06.04.12	lewandowski is in such good form right now though, and hosts always play better than they are. i think poland's gonna advance, so lewandowki it is.
fish. 06.04.12	austria and switzerland are both better teams than poland and ukraine and they both failed to qualify when they hosted in 08
Pentagon 06.04.12	'Ibra doesn't do internationals' Hes got a decent record, 30 goals in 76 games for a mediocre team like sweden
fish. 06.04.12	england and sweden keep meeting up in the group stage of big tournaments their games always end in draws though
barcafan21 06.04.12	but poland's group is sooooooooooo weak.
barcafan21 06.04.12	i know russia is pretty good, and greece is solid, and i guess the czech's aren't awful, but there isn't any team that is completely dominant. unless russia goes crazy again like in 2008
fish. 06.04.12	russia will top it, after that it's a crapshoot
Pentagon 06.04.12	^ Pretty much, what Im wondering is if Italy will miracoulasly win this thing, with the crisis engulfing Italy as it did 6 years ago.
AliW1993 06.04.12	They're always slow starters, but if they can get out of their group I think they'll be right in the mix. Their team isn't that great on paper but they'll be tough to beat.
fish. 06.04.12	they've lost their last three games (afaik), two at home against uruguay and the US and the recent 3-0 defeat to russia on neutral great. I'd be surprised if they got far. tbh I wouldn't be too surprised if Croatia beat them to 2nd France are another team that get better as the tournaments progress. just look at 2006. I reckon we/they could do some damage especially with the current 20 game unbeaten run and the away victory over germany
fish. 06.04.12	*ground
barcafan21 06.04.12	@pentagon, i was just thinking the exact same thing. i doubt it though, but i thought the same thing in 2006.
AliW1993 06.04.12	I'm backing France to win it, though my head still says Germany. As long as Cabaye and Ben Arfa don't catch the eye I'll be happy.
fish. 06.04.12	I don't think we'll win it, but I reckon this will be a stepping stone for when we host it next time
fish. 06.05.12	France v Estonia tonight should be goood
phishing 06.05.12	Ribery to make it three in a row
Metalstyles 06.05.12	I don't want to watch it. I'm tired of us getting beat by, well, everyone.
Aids 06.05.12	ok I've given this some thought and here's what I think will go down: Group A: Czech Republic, Poland Group B: Germany (will win on goal difference), Holland Group C: Spain, Ireland (fuck you Italy!) Group D: France, Sweden (England is too all over the place) Quarters: Holland beats Czech Republic Spain beats Sweden Germany beats Poland France beats Ireland Semis: Holland somehow beats Spain on PKs Germany blanks France 2-0 Final: (unfortunately) I think Germany will take Holland out and claim the title they really, really deserve. there.
Aids 06.05.12	but seriously Group A is weird, I have no idea. Russia is obviously the best but it's such a weak group that I fancy Poland's home-field advantage to carry them through, and I have a good feeling about Czech if Rosicky starts firing again (like in 04) and Cech has got that Champions League swagger now so yeah I'm taking them over Russia in a weak group. Greece will do nothing.
thumbcrusher 06.05.12	the groups are messed up becasue of the seeding. it's done on fifa rankings but the hosts automaticlly get first seeded too and there being two of them made it worse. so the firsts seeds were spain and holland with poland and ukraine when germany and england (i think) should have had the next places, which just screwed everything up.
Thane 06.05.12	group A is really hard to choose players from for the team. anything can happen. damn. I'm going with russia + czech I think.
Pentagon 06.05.12	yeah group A is the toughest. But Ima go with Russia (based on recent results) and Poland, as they are hosts + they have a better squad then the Czechs imo. Greece aint gonna do nuthin
Thane 06.05.12	yea now that i think about it Baros is injured apparently. russia + poland it is.
Fortheloveofmusic 06.05.12	Group A: Russia and Poland Group B: Germany and Netherlands Group C: Spain and Italy Group D: France and Sweden (With all of England's injuries and Rooney's suspension, I think they'll struggle the first couple of games). Quarters: Netherlands beats Russia 2-0 Spain beats Sweden 2-0 Germany Beats Poland 3-0 France beats Italy 3-1 Semis: Spain beats Netherlands 1-0 Germany beats France 2-0 Final: Germany beats Spain 2-1 And watch me get every single one wrong
thumbcrusher 06.05.12	this england squad selection is still bothering me... surely adam johnson would be more dangerous than fucking downing? and downing's gonna start with young playing upfront when rooney isn't there... and then there's the defence... just oh man i'm gonna cry.
Fortheloveofmusic 06.05.12	I'm hoping that Jagielka and Lescott will get paired together in defense. Lescott's a great left side centre back and Jagielka's a right sided centre back. Plus they played together at Everton for years, and had one of the best defenses in the league. Will this happen? Not while John Terry's around. Instead Lescott will be moved to the right and not be able to adjust quickly enough, while all the fans are calling out "Where's Rio?"
Aids 06.05.12	England still have a great team (even without Rooney) but the drama always gets the best of them, and there's heaps this time around.
thumbcrusher 06.05.12	lescott and jagielka put in two of the best defensive performaces i've ever seen against spain last year so i had hoped for them to play as well. sigh...
DominionMM1 06.05.12	"Poland, as they are hosts + they have a better squad then the Czechs imo." I don't know about that. the czechs certainly don't have the squad they had 6 years ago, but I still think they can hang with poland and greece. strange grouping, though.
Aids 06.05.12	lescott is cash, and so is Joe Hart. they'll defend well but I see them being frustrated into low-scoring draws that they can't escape because they're too disorganized up front to score with consistency. i mean there's always a "what if?" factor at play when analysing England's chances, so I'm not counting them out. the quality is there, they just very rarely exercise it to its full potential.
thumbcrusher 06.05.12	if rooney is paired with welbeck when he reutrns we should be pretty good going forward as they were playing so well at the end of the season for man united. but the first 2 games are a worry in that sense. a lot relies on ashley young to play as well as he can.
Thane 06.05.12	benzema. nuff said.
fish. 06.05.12	"Ribery to make it three in a row" lmao he actually did. I don't think he scored in two years for france and he's scored 3 in three games now. dammit this makes choosing my dream team even harder. I wanna stick in Ribery, maybe even Benzema in now. France are obviously a team focussed on attacking whereas England are defensive. Might swap Rami with Lescott and see what I can do in midfield, but Ribery is still expensive and it could be risky to put too much on him considering he's only just catching up on his international form. "Germany beats France 2-0" nah we beat them 2-1 away in February. 21 games unbeaten in a row biatch Problem with england is that their players are good, but after the intense EPL seasons they're never ready for the international tournaments and just fall apart. Could honestly see Croatia beating Italy to 2nd though. Ireland will finish 4th. Also lol at Shevchenko saying Ukraine could reach the final.
fish. 06.05.12	Not even two years for Ribery. It was April 2009 when he last scored for France before these friendlies, and he's now scored three in just over a week.
Bloodbirds 06.05.12	BENZEMA !! I hope he scores in the tournament now.
barcafan21 06.06.12	england is in shambles.
Adabelle 06.06.12	Got Ribery in my team, you jelly? ;)
fish. 06.06.12	I don't have space for him :( still don't know whether to go for RVP or Huntelaar
NorwichScene 06.06.12	COME ON ENGLAND!!
NorwichScene 06.06.12	Andy Carroll FTW
Adabelle 06.06.12	^ I have him too haha. Currently: Buffon/Schmeichel O'Shea/Willems/Barzagli/Boateng/Piszczek Ribery/Young/Błaszczykowski/Gotze/Dzagoev Bendnter/Carroll/Doyle
Knott- 06.06.12	Group A is terrible and nobody can predict accurately what will happen in it so stop trying!
Knott- 06.06.12	Also England will pretty much definitely get out of the group but as soon as we come up against someone who isn't > 30-1 to win outright we'll get hammered. Literally nobody in this country is expecting anything else.
fish. 06.06.12	@Adabelle haha we only share Young. I had Carroll, Barzagli and Dzagoev for a bit but I swapped them out. Be careful with Barzagli cos he's injured and might not play the group stage http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3284/euro-2012/2012/06/05/3151105/italy-will-wait-until-the-last-minute-for-barzagli-says
thumbcrusher 06.06.12	yeah england have only ever won 1 game in the euro knockout phases and that was on penalties and that's not gonna change with the current squad so quarters it is.
fish. 06.06.12	isn't that the only penalty shootout england have EVER won? I think I read England have only ever won 4 Euro games but I find that hard to believe
thumbcrusher 06.06.12	i think it's also that too, they've never won one in a world cup so it must be. after some serious wikipedia research i can say they've won 5 games outright plus the penalty one against spain 2004 - switerland & croatia 2000 - germany 1996 - scotland, holland and spain on penatlies 1980 - spain
barcafan21 06.06.12	why in the world would anyone get carroll? and definitely get rvp
fish. 06.07.12	gotta finalise the squads for matchday 1 tomorrow
Recspecs 06.07.12	I've been so busy working at this damn basketball camp I almost forgot about this fuck.
fish. 06.07.12	"basketball camp" I'm white so explain what this is exactly?
RosaParks 06.07.12	what is euro 2012
porch 06.07.12	"Bendnter/Carroll/Doyle" will end tournament with 0 goals
Recspecs 06.07.12	^ Lol "I'm white so explain what this is exactly?" I'll make a list in a little bit.
fish. 06.07.12	"what is euro 2012" International football tournament in europe "I'll make a list in a little bit." god you treat this like twitter
fish. 06.07.12	ah crap, RVP's been picked, so my plan to field Huntelaar and gain all the points ahead of everyone who blindly went with RVP is blown to pieces
Recspecs 06.07.12	"god you treat this like twitter" I'd retweet the shit out of that that if I could #realtalk #eurotalk
Aids 06.07.12	hahahaha
barcafan21 06.07.12	fish, where do you see who's been picked by which team? i need that badly.
barcafan21 06.07.12	or simply, is welbeck starting up top for england?
Knott- 06.07.12	i would think so but idk
barcafan21 06.07.12	yeah, who knows what hodgson will do. i'd be positive welbeck is starting, but hodgson seems to have an affinity for Liverpool players.
AliW1993 06.08.12	Predictions for today? Poland 1-0 Greece Russia 3-0 Czech Republic
Dreamflight 06.08.12	Poland 0-0 Greece (fucking boring game) Russia 2-1 Czech Republic
porch 06.08.12	yeah i can't think of a more unappealing opener
Shuyin 06.08.12	technical teams m/
AliW1993 06.08.12	Greece will stifle Poland to the death but I think being on home soil will carry the Poles through, just. Russia will be too strong for the Czechs.
MalleusMaleficarum 06.08.12	Greece wins 1-0 over Poland
MalleusMaleficarum 06.08.12	"yeah i can't think of a more unappealing opener" fuck you bitch
fish. 06.08.12	Poland 0-0 Greece (fucking boring game) [2] both counterattacking style teams Russia 3 - 1 Czech Republic Also I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Croatia will finish 2nd in Group C
Recspecs 06.08.12	EURO IS FUCKING HERE CAN'T FUCKING WAIT CAN'T FUCKING WAIT CAN'T FUCKING WAIT
Recspecs 06.08.12	"Also I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Croatia will finish 2nd in Group C" Croatia will win Group C.
MalleusMaleficarum 06.08.12	lmfao
phishing 06.08.12	I have no inclination to watch either of today's matches...but I'll no doubt catch both anyway. Tempted to swap Ronaldo for Lewandowski, unsure if Portugal will progress out of that bitch of a group. Also, Germany v Portugal tomorrow, Spain v Italy sunday and France v England monday, this is awesome.
fish. 06.08.12	this kind of intensity won't happen when they increase the number of teams to 24. Making some last minute changes. Could squeeze Podolski in there, or Ribery. Got less than an hour and a half to decide.
thumbcrusher 06.08.12	is anyone else having trouble logging in to the uefa site to change their team? i do it though my google account but it says "this service is unavailable"
AliW1993 06.08.12	Yeah I just tried logging in using facebook and the same message came up. Must be past the cut-off point.
fish. 06.08.12	I'm in fine. The cut off point is 4.45 GMT, 15 minutes before kick off of the first game. I have had some error messages before but I was logged in anyway. Mmmm, Podolski only scored 1 goal in his 12 international matches last year.. might be going downhill. Maybe Muller, or Klose.
Recspecs 06.08.12	I don't even remember who the fuck is on my team.
fish. 06.08.12	might sacrifice Young for Ribery but I don't really want to lose Young, although I really want Ribery. Schurrle looks attractive at only 8.0 and with 7 goals in 14 matches but with all of Germany's other star players idk how much playing time he'll get
thumbcrusher 06.08.12	the site might just be very busy i guess, i remember the premier league one died about this time on the day of the start of the season.
barcafan21 06.08.12	schurrle does look really good. when he came on for podolski in their last friendly the team looked better right away, so even if he doesnt start, he'll definitely get some playing time. and if podolski doesn't perform, then he'll get the nod. but podolski always performs at the international level.
barcafan21 06.08.12	is ozil worth it?
phishing 06.08.12	Ozil is probably a decent shout yeah. I took David Silva and Ribery ahead of him though. Schurrle is a good player but Low has always preferred playing Podolski regardless of how shit he's performing (that said, he had an impressive season) so yeah, 9 times out of 10 he'll start over Schurrle, and it's difficult to make an impact on brief twenty minute appearances at international level.
omnipanzer 06.08.12	"Official" ? This hasn't been sanctioned!
barcafan21 06.08.12	he's the most expensive player, so idk
barcafan21 06.08.12	yeah, he's worth it. i've decided
fish. 06.08.12	Podolski seems to have gone downhill internationally though. I've gone for Muller, although it means I can't substitute out my Croatian defender for an Italian after Matchday 1. Ozil is a good choice. Will probably provide a few assists and not a bad scorer. Still unsure about Ribery. 9.5 is quite a lot so unless I make a drastic change I'd have to sacrifice Young, who's been critical in the majority of England's recent goals and assists.
fish. 06.08.12	"it's difficult to make an impact on brief twenty minute appearances at international level." he has scored regularly recently though
Dave de Sylvia 06.08.12	http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201801
barcafan21 06.08.12	i wouldn't sacrifice young, he'll play a part in almost all of their goals, especially while rooney is gone. and while it is difficult to make an impact in 20 minutes, some players relish the supersub role. schurrle might be one of them.

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