YetAnotherBrick
09.18.11 | stuck some post-metal in there and other post-rock RELATED things. and by "by memory," i meant that i didn't just go and look shit up to fill in the spots. i had at least heard OF all of these before the making of this list. :) |
someguest
09.18.11 | 1, 8, 43 are good. |
YetAnotherBrick
09.18.11 | lol that's it? XD |
someguest
09.18.11 | I would argue that there's about ten essential post-rock albums. If you're into the genre you'll probably argue there's more, but it's all really close together. |
ZombicidalMan
09.18.11 | Nice list, lots of these rule |
YetAnotherBrick
09.18.11 | Hmm...I see. |
eternium
09.18.11 | I had a feeling you would include post-metal. |
YetAnotherBrick
09.18.11 | haha, well, it shares the same general aesthetic as post-rock, so why not, you know? |
Hyperion1001
09.18.11 | ive been trying to get into more post rock lately but must of what i listen to is just so derivative and boring. what i like so far would probably be ranked
Jakob
Godspeed
The Evpatoria Report |
YetAnotherBrick
09.18.11 | Check out 2, 10, 11, 20, and 29. |
iFghtffyrdmns
09.18.11 | but why would you ever take the time to listen to 50 post rock records?
that's like 3 straight months worth of music |
someguest
09.18.11 | Exactly, Hyperion. You can only stretch it out so far, and all the big names have already taken it as far as it can go. |
YetAnotherBrick
09.18.11 | ^ not true. |
Relinquished
09.18.11 | why is it not true |
YetAnotherBrick
09.18.11 | No one has taken the genre "as far as it can go" yet. There's tons of variations, and orders of variations that haven't been done yet. Or at least haven't been done that many times. There's sooooo many things you can do with post-rock, as with any genre. |
Pharoh
09.18.11 | Wow you got all the artwork |
YetAnotherBrick
09.18.11 | ^ haha awwww yeahhh |
someguest
09.18.11 | You can add post-rock elements into other genres, as it's being done by almost everyone in metal right now. But the genre by itself has peaked and is fizzling. |
Relinquished
09.18.11 | many things you can do until they sound the same like variations |
eternium
09.18.11 | You can almost say that about music in general. |
flalafell
09.18.11 | great list |
UnnamedOcean
09.18.11 | There are certainly some pointless post-rock bands, but many bands with a really unique sound get overlooked because people assume the whole genre is derivative. |
YetAnotherBrick
09.18.11 | I don't think that "post-rock" is so much a genre itself as it is a variation on the standard "rock" format. Like, when a metal band sprawls out their song structures and seems to emphasize more on atmospheres and textures than on riffs, they're no so much "adding post-rock elements" into their sound as they are sprawling out a sound they already had, thus creating post-metal.
And since I look it at it that way (and think that that's how it should be looked at), that opens so many more doors for post-rock. While being specific and defined enough, it's not nearly as specific and defined as a lot of people make it out to be. |
flalafell
09.18.11 | "But the genre by itself has peaked and is fizzling."
you can pretty much say that about any other genre |
someguest
09.18.11 | I disagree, flalafell. Godspeed was the first post-rock I gave a listen, and nothing I've listened to since has come close. They're the supreme leader of the genre according to everyone - and you can't narrow any other genre in existence down to one band like you can post-rock. |
YetAnotherBrick
09.18.11 | You mean "narrow down" in terms of quality, or in terms of who formed the genre? Because if you mean quality, that's subjective, dude. lol |
someguest
09.18.11 | Brick, you're lying to yourself if you think there's better post-rock than Godspeed. |
YetAnotherBrick
09.18.11 | No, in OUR opinions, there isn't. But I know a lot of people who prefer Sigur Ros and Yndi Halda, and I can see where they're coming from. Music is always subjective. |
Relinquished
09.18.11 | "thus creating post-metal."
you know that "post-metal" started as sludge metal with hardcore, progressive, and atmospheric elements right? there's a difference between isis/cult of luna "post-metal" and post-rock with metal elements. |
YetAnotherBrick
09.18.11 | You know the kind of "post-metal" that I meant, dude. The one that fits what I was describing. |
flalafell
09.18.11 | "I disagree, flalafell. Godspeed was the first post-rock I gave a listen, and nothing I've listened to since has come close. They're the supreme leader of the genre according to everyone - and you can't narrow any other genre in existence down to one band like you can post-rock"
i don't think godspeed is the best post-rock out there, so i think its a bit unfair to say the entire genre revolves around them, thats like saying the entire indie genre revolves around the national because they're my favorite band |
YetAnotherBrick
09.18.11 | ^ agreed. |
eternium
09.18.11 | It's more sludge metal with post-rock elements than the reverse. For Neurosis it just came naturally when they started focusing on atmosphere and adding ambient/folk to their sludge/hardcore. |
someguest
09.18.11 | I think you're in the minority, but fair enough. |
eternium
09.18.11 | Post-rock revolves around Explosions in the Sky more than Godspeed. |
someguest
09.18.11 | It might have something to do with Godspeed not putting an album out in a decade. |
Abdar112
09.18.11 | Scale the Summit |
eternium
09.18.11 | ..is not post-rock. |
YetAnotherBrick
09.18.11 | hahaha |
Hyperion1001
09.18.11 | "i don't think godspeed is the best post-rock out there"
This. Jakob is better than Godspeed and i really like Godspeed. |
ZombicidalMan
09.18.11 | Truth be told I think the best post-rock really depends on your mood. I mean, on certain days, I'd pick GY!BE without a doubt, others I'd go for Jakob or Sigur Ros. Opinions aside, I believe there really isn't a 'best' post-rock band. |
AngelofDeath
09.18.11 | Here's 61 albums without repeating bands or including post-metal:
http://www.sputnikmusic.com/list.php?memberid=284981&listid=71184
Also agree about post-metal evolving from sludge and hardcore roots and being fundamentally different from post-rock. |
YetAnotherBrick
09.18.11 | ^ Pelican is post-metal, bro. And you don't need to brag about how much better your list is than mine, it says right there in the description that I was simply testing my memory here. |
eternium
09.18.11 | Wolfe argues that Pelican's only real post-metal album is their first all the time. I disagree but whatever. |
AngelofDeath
09.18.11 | They're kind of in between post-rock and post-metal, in my opinion.
Also, I wasn't bragging. I just thought you might want some recs. |
EasternLight
09.18.11 | for those who have not heard 23, seriously, listen to it. |
eternium
09.18.11 | Angel, if you lived closer I'd make drone with you. |
AngelofDeath
09.18.11 | If I played an instrument, I'd make lots of music lol.
Well, I can do a little bit of keyboard work, but yeah... |
eternium
09.18.11 | Learn bass and do limited vocals. |
AngelofDeath
09.18.11 | Sounds like a deal. |
eternium
09.18.11 | m/ |
climactic
09.18.11 | wow, good job dude. pure talent here |
YetAnotherBrick
09.18.11 | sorry Angel, I misread you. I thought you were saying like "why look at this list when you can look at mine," something along those lines. my bad :P |
AngelofDeath
09.18.11 | S'all good, man. |
parawhorez
09.18.11 | time for you to show me some of these :) |
Relinquished
09.18.11 | "Wolfe argues that Pelican's only real post-metal album is their first all the time. I disagree but whatever"
no. I say that The Fire In Our Throats is not post-metal. The people that would think Pelican are post-metal think all of their albums are so. That album is post-rock but still Pelican-style post-rock, if they stripped the metal down then it wouldn't be Pelican. The the following two are post-rock with heavy emphasis on metal on most of the songs. |
eternium
09.18.11 | Pointless to argue. |
Relinquished
09.18.11 | what's there to argue |
Cheesesandwich2
10.13.11 | 1,2,5,31,33, and 47 are some of my favorite albums. Awesome list, dude. |
Deviant.
10.13.11 | Why is Kashiwa on here? |
Keyblade
10.13.11 | Or Jaga for that matter. If anything World's End is more post-y than Kashiwa. |
YetAnotherBrick
10.17.11 | I put Kashiwa on here because that album sort of follows a post-rock-esque structure, being sprawled out, taking a while to develop, etc. Though there's a lot of albums that follow that kind of structure that have nothing to do with post-rock otherwise, I guess. I don't know, I guess I was just filling in a spot lol
"putting neurosis on a list like this is a disgrace"
why?
"and yetanotherbrick, stop talking about sprawling riffs and shit, it doesnt make any sense"
I never said anything about sprawling riffs. I said something about sprawling song structures, if that's what you meant. But those are two very different things.
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Scoot
10.17.11 | good list
though I agree that there will never be one supreme band to be agreed on by everyone |
YetAnotherBrick
10.17.11 | thanks bro |
Activista anti-MTV
11.14.11 | Nic3 |
twlichty
11.14.11 | sweet list, some of these are post-metal blah blah blah |
seedofnothing
11.14.11 | explosions in my pants |
ShousoStrip
11.14.11 | Pointless genre. Listening to one = listening to the rest. |
seedofnothing
11.14.11 | doom>post-rock |
flalafell
11.14.11 | needs laura and the echelon effect |
Aids
11.14.11 | "Pointless genre. Listening to one = listening to the rest."
lol. you're just not spiritually awakened mannnn. or something. |
Aids
11.14.11 | well if we're gonna be getting married we have to get used to sharing stuff baby |