Trebor.
02.16.17 | I didn't listen to music or play an instrument the whole time I was there which was a bit odd as I had done these things almost every day for the last ten years
If you have any questions ask away
Also if you have suicidal thoughts please call someone and get help |
DinosaurJones
02.16.17 | Damn Treb. I'm glad it all turned out for the best. It honestly sounds like it was nothing but good things, despite the circumstances that got you there. |
Chortles
02.16.17 | just like summer camp
glad 2 hear you're ok tho |
SCREAM!
02.16.17 | Glad it all turned out well for you man and I wish you the best
Also this reminded me of It's Kind of a Funny Story (book + movie) so hard |
Titan
02.16.17 | head up trebor....glad to hear that things are heading in the right direction.....stay at it |
neekafat
02.16.17 | My brother had to spend some time in one too because of a breakdown he had caused by his depression, glad to hear everything worked out buddy |
AtomicWaste
02.16.17 | Glad you came out better on the other side, man. Hope your perspective brightened a bit and that you won't have to be in that mental "place" again. This was a really interesting read, too - don't know how I would have expected a mental facility to be, but it's interesting to know. |
Trebor.
02.16.17 | Thanks guys. Yeah I feel a lot better |
Satellite
02.16.17 | major cliches incoming treb, but 1) i'm glad you didn't kill yourself and 2) thanks for sharing your story.
despite having a generally good life, i've lived with depression (probably moderate but idk) since middle school, and in a couple of my darkest times entertained the thought of suicide. a combination of cowardice and the thought what it would do to my family stopped me from actually attempting it. i think i'm well past that but who can really say for certain? talking about it w/ others has been invaluable in regards to growing from the experience.
i've never been institutionalized so this was an enlightening read. it started dark and ended positive; hopefully that's how it was for you. |
Trebor.
02.16.17 | It was definitely a really positive experience.
I wrote myself a little "Reasons not to kill yourself" note that I'm going to keep on me at all times for the foreseeable future |
talktothehead
02.16.17 | cool. thinking i might check myself in soon. and glad you didnt kill yourself. |
JeetJeet
02.16.17 | This sounds very similar to an experience I've had. Many of the people I've met in the psych ward I was admitted to were really cool and I still keep in contact with most of them. Only difference is that the ward I was in let us use a computer and they would take us outside for sports activities and shit like that. Did they let you guys go outside?
Glad to have you still here. Keep your head up man. |
JWT155
02.16.17 | You're a film major right? You should write a fucking dark comedy about this man, love story of the girl you met at the psych ward. Some allusions to past films like One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest, throw some comedy in it, give it like a more mature Juno vibe of a young man coming to terms, etc. I'd watch the shit out of that. Nothing like perusing a project with some personal attachment. |
RoundOnEndHiInMiddle
02.16.17 | I'm glad you're okay, man. These things are never easy. I had a stay in a mental hospital a couple of years ago, for about a week. They way you describe it is pretty much how it was, except men and women were kept segregated. In the end I felt it helped me a great deal. Just remember that there are always people out there that care about you and definitely don't want to see you hurt yourself. They'll talk to you when you need them and be your crutch. I can't tell you how many people helped me, far more than I could care to count. If you ever need to talk about anything, my shoutbox is always open. Take care, man. |
oWhoadYo
02.16.17 | I've lived with relatively severe depression for years now, but have never seriously considered suicide. I hope it never gets to that point. But you gotta set small goals and always have something to work towards. keep yourself busy. Even if its something meaningless, it is a hell of a lot better than laying in bed looking at your phone. I forced myself to wake up at the crack of dawn and go for walks or jogs just so i wasnt bored. I played new video games, did extra school work, hung out with friends as much as possible, channeled it into music, just anything to keep busy really. I'm glad you got the help you needed. The important thing to remember is that shit can get worse and probably will, but in any circumstance, you'll make people's lives worse if you are gone and people legitimately care about you. |
Trebor.
02.16.17 | "Did they let you guys go outside?"
there was an outdoor patio and that's it. Kinda sucked to not get much exercise
"You're a film major right? You should write a fucking dark comedy about this man, love story of the girl you met at the psych ward. Some allusions to past films like One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest, throw some comedy in it, give it like a more mature Juno vibe of a young man coming to terms, etc. I'd watch the shit out of that. Nothing like perusing a project with some personal attachment."
I write super personal shit and I'm sure a lot of this will end up in a screenplay or a novel |
JWT155
02.16.17 | Gotcha man, just seems like some of your experiences seem like a story writing itself on film, finding some of the humor in ridiculous situations, from guards being completely worthless, showing the lighter side of mental illness and depression, etc. Just seems like a lot of material you have to work with already, work in some love story or a coming of age theme, write the shit out of it and I can see you selling a script. |
SteveOffProbation
02.16.17 | tragic |
JWT155
02.16.17 | You can even make some corny emotional speech about depression when you accept the Oscar for best Original Screenplay
Really hope my comments aren't coming across as to demeaning. |
Trebor.
02.16.17 | lol I feel you
Pretty much everything I've written up to this point is about depression to an extent |
SCREAM!
02.16.17 | @JWT and Treb, like I said there,s already a book/movie that reminded me a lot of this (It's Kind of a Funny Story). Pretty sure the author based it around an experience he had similar to this. You guys should check it out. Zack Galifinakis (hwoever you spell that) plays in the movie and its prob my fave role of his |
zakalwe
02.16.17 | Thinking about ending your life is a part of life.
Hope you keep on the right path dude. Don't let the bullshit, bastards and black dog drag you down pal.
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Trebor.
02.16.17 | When I told my sister and her boyfriend about the girl I met, they remarked "wow you really do have pussy on the brain 24/7"
There was nothing I could really say to that lol
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danielito19
02.16.17 | Congrats on not killing yourself dude, we'd all miss you. My brother's been in and out of mental hospitals for the past two years so I know the grind. Struggled with depression and suicidal thoughts myself but never acted on them. If you ever need someone on sput to talk to feel free to hit me up.
Also yeah this sounds exactly like It's Kind of a Funny Story. |
demigod!
02.16.17 | so how's infinite jest? |
demigod!
02.16.17 | also this is a major step and I'm proud of you |
wacknizzle
02.16.17 | Damn Trebor, sucks dude, but glad you had fun and are doing better! Read some Kurt Vonnegut, always cheers me up |
Sowing
02.16.17 | Glad things worked out for you...hope you keep at that girl, too! |
50iL
02.16.17 | Hey bro, respect for making it. Must be tough to live through a condition like that daily. Keep it up, congrats. |
FullOfSounds
02.16.17 | Glad to hear you came out better. Keep up the good thoughts! |
Trebor.
02.16.17 | I love y'all
"so how's infinite jest?"
I haven't finished it yet but it's definitely one of my favorite books |
macman76
02.16.17 | They can kill you, but the legalities of eating you are quite a bit dicier
I love ij, also good for you that you're better |
MyNameIsPencil
02.16.17 | I'm really glad to hear that you're doing okay man! |
Maco097
02.16.17 | So Nattramn when are you gonna release your new album? |
wacknizzle
02.16.17 | Might try reading Infinite Jest after I finish V. by Thomas Pynchon |
chemicalmarriage
02.16.17 | Feature! |
Spluger
02.16.17 | Lemme get a link to that web series |
DatBeefPudding
02.16.17 | hey treb, i've had a few experiences in mental hospitals, if you ever need to talk about shit hit me up, i've been there (literally) |
brainmelter
02.16.17 | wows |
rabidfish
02.16.17 | wow dude, mental institutions sound pretty cool... except for all the mental illness and stuff.
Also, I dunno what I'd do if I ever got in one of those, whatever the reason. Good for you it all turned out for the better. |
bakkermaarten007
02.16.17 | "First day I mostly read Infinite Jest in my room."
Maybe you should read his speech 'This Is Water' too. That's some antidepressant right there. Glad you didn't succeed in killing yourself so you'll succeed in living. |
bach
02.16.17 | proud of you treb. hope you and your new friend go somewhere |
bakkermaarten007
02.16.17 | I brought my brother to the mental hospital a couple of times. He too, was suicidal, but he was suicidal continuously. Those were some scary times: they couldn't hold him much longer against his will so back home I listened to his breathing almost every night until I was convinced he was asleep. I did that for about 8 months while also cleaning up and doing other chores for my mom who was going through chemotherapy. Rough times, but they move so fast in hindsight. |
elliootsmeuth
02.16.17 | I had some... troubles... that led me to a partial hospitalization program (PHP) for about a month. I was there 5 days a week, 6 hours a day, for four weeks. We had to give them our phones, empty out our shoes, and our pockets. Many of the people there were coming from 72 hour hospitalization stays, so I learned a lot about the experience. After that, I went to an intensive out patient program (IOP) for about 4 months. I was there for 3 hours a day, 4 days a week, gradually stepping down to 3, 2, 1, and done. I heard a lot of shit there. You're never alone man. I hope this really helps turn things around for you. If things start to get bad again, I strongly encourage you seek out a PHP or IOP. It completely turned my life around. If you have any questions about what the experience is like at places like that, please feel free to give me a shout. |
elliootsmeuth
02.16.17 | Holy fuck @bakker. That's some fucking SHIT. |
Rowan5215
02.16.17 | Damn, this was a beautiful read. Like I tell myself every day, don't ever fucking give up, dude. |
Nocturtle
02.16.17 | tbh that mental hospital doesn't sound very effective at all like theres no way they could stop somebody who actually want to kill themselves from doing it if said person has the slightest bit of composure
other then that glad your feeling better dude |
Hep Kat
02.17.17 | Treb, what's your diagnosis? I assume general anxiety and *some level* depression, hence the benzo and the AntiD. If you have any type of mood disorder or personality disorder, I would recommend anything besides antidepressants, especially if it's an SSRI. That will exacerbate your symptoms to the umpteenth coefficient. I'm pleased you got help. It seems like you went to a decent facility. Things aren't like that here. I've spent perhaps a good 15 months of my adolescence and adult life in treatment for mental health/dual diagnosis, cumulatively, and that's not accounting for time spent in rehab for substance abuse or incarcerated. It's very, very different in New Jersey, as crestfallen as that has me feeling to admit. Abhorrent, inhuman atrocities are commited in hospitals both at the county and state level. Ancora and Ancline are de facto Arkham Asylums, particularly the latter, all mounds of hyperbolic claims aside |
Emim
02.17.17 | Glad you're doing better, man. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.17.17 | How I Met Your Mother, Trebor edition |
Dewinged
02.17.17 | Holy shit, Treb, what a read. Hope everything works out from now on man. |
Trebor.
02.17.17 | "Treb, what's your diagnosis?"
I was diagnosed a couple years ago, unipolar major depression, anxiety disorder, nothing more complicated than that
Wow it's nice to see some of you have similar stories, not nice nice, but you know what I mean |
Deathconscious
02.17.17 | damn dude, i dont have time to read this whole thing right now but glad youre alright. |
EliteTaste
02.17.17 | luv you treb. never been as far down the rabbit hole as you but i've come close. mental care in australia is incredibly poor (especially if you have to rely on the university's counselling//psych services). my psych could tell i was self-harming and whatever, and their response was to change my cycle of drugs, which in actuality did nothing but exacerbate the problems further. and then there were the 3-5 week waits between appointments... since deferring uni and moving away from there it's been a lot better (so far as consistently seeing therapists), being in a more friendly environment and whatever. glad you've made it through the worst.
"How I Met Your Mother, Trebor edition"
you didn't need to say this for us to realise you're still the saddest fucking piece of shit frequenting this site |
Trebor.
02.17.17 | I actually think Pots was trying to be nice |
Relinquished
02.17.17 | grudge harder sach |
rabidfish
02.17.17 | how I met your mother is a shite show, tho? |
MrSirLordGentleman
02.17.17 | Damn, sad to hear about all of this but it seems in the end it was a good experience, glad that you even managed to make some friends in there
Been fighting depression for years too and I've also being close to suicide. The best you can do is rely on the friends and family who do really care about you.
I like to believe there will always be at least one person you can trust will protect you, give you good advice and be there for you when you need them. It seems that's the case with you too, Treb, since it looks like your family really cares about your well-being which is excellent.
Won't tell you to stay positive or bs like that since all of us who suffer depression know that's kinda pointless, but you should try to remember there is people for you out there and that no pain lasts for a lifetime. Good times will come, and it seems like this experience could be the beginning for a brighter future from what you have told us, so congrats buddy!
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MrSirLordGentleman
02.17.17 | "you didn't need to say this for us to realise you're still the saddest fucking piece of shit frequenting this site"
I mean, I'm not Treb, so I don't know which kind of "support" works the best for him, but yeah, I also think potsy was trying to be supportive... it is a harmless, good-hearted joke to lift Treb's mood. At least, I, giggled. C'mon Sach, don't try to start a fight everytime you see pots commenting. This thread's supposed to be 'bout the cool vibes boy~~ |
EliteTaste
02.17.17 | i'd argue it's anything but good-hearted since it trivialises hardship to some comparable to shit-tier sitcoms, but if you say so~~ |
becomesmusical
02.17.17 | I'm mostly just a lurker on this site, but I'm really glad to hear you're okay, man. Shit can be rough. |
UndineParty
02.17.17 | I have seen Potsu basically bullying Trebor in the past so yeah it isn't crazy to assume the comment was coming from a mean place but w/e |
ConcubinaryCode
02.17.17 | I went to one myself last year and it really helped. It was pretty similar to what you went through except they drew my blood every morning which I thought was weird. But the people were really cool and easy to get along with and probably the friendliest anyone had ever been to me. Glad you're safe now doe. |
hal1ax
02.17.17 | Glad you made it out ok. You're fortunate to have a seemingly pretty solid support system around you. |
SitarHero
02.17.17 | "i'd argue it's anything but good-hearted since it trivialises hardship to some comparable to shit-tier sitcoms, but if you say so"
Jesus. Humans developed a sense of humour to deal with hardship. Grow at least one, if not a pair.
Anyway, it's good to know you're in a better place Treb, and have a pretty good story come out of it too. |
Hawks
02.17.17 | Damn Treb had no idea you were going througj all of that, glad you're alright now. |
Dewinged
02.17.17 | Biting the bait, Potsy. Don't. |
Snake.
02.17.17 | so glad you're okay fam < 3 < 3 < 3 < 3 |
XingKing
02.17.17 | ♥ |
Lavair
02.17.17 | This was a very entertaining read. I've actually thought before about staying in a mental hospital voluntarily, just for a few days. Honestly, most of the experiences I've heard about them have been positive. I wonder how I'd do in one. It would also probably help with inspiration, which I'm sure you're very familiar with. It would be so cool to see how this affects your writing and screenplays.
I don't mean to diminish what you're saying. It's very thoroughly interesting! How's the girl? How is your family treating now? Any different? |
ScuroFantasma
02.17.17 | This was a cool and very interesting read man. Sorry you had to go there in the first place but I'm glad it was a positive experience for you, good luck for the future (: |
tempest--
02.17.17 | ❤️💛💚💙💜 sending love your way man |
RadicalEd
02.17.17 | Damn bro, good to hear you're doing a bit better. Very interesting read. |
hobblepot
02.17.17 | Glad you're much better now, about 4 years ago, I was nearly sectioned. I won't give my full story yet, because 1. I'm not ready to, and 2. posting it so close to yours would feel like "cashing in" if you will. But basically I've been diagnosed as having depression, and aspergers syndrome. It's a milder form of autism, and I know Autism is somewhat of a running joke on the internet, which is why I'm not so hot on telling the entire story, but your story has made me think I should at some point |
danielito19
02.17.17 | Sweeney people who use autism as an insult are useless pieces of shit that lack empathy. I'm sorry you had to go through that and if you ever tell your story I'll be there to listen. |
guitarded_chuck
02.17.17 | Crazy how many of us here have at least dealt with some sort of ongoing mental issues. Makes me wonder if it's a reflection of the community (the sort of music loving, motivated to chat about it on the Internet type), or if it really is just that common.
The black dog has followed me around my whole life and especially rears it's head during periods of increased stress such as big changes in routine, relationships ending, things like that. On average I'm happier than ever but it takes a lot of effort with healthy eating exercise etc. A slight slip and I fall for sure, and it takes that much more effort to come back to par. |
rabidfish
02.17.17 | I'd say depression is pretty fucking common, even when people don't actually know they have it (as a medical condition, that is) and just think is something common that comes and goes.
But I guess people with a more deep sensitivity and yearn for music tend to be the more emotional kind. |
zakalwe
02.17.17 | I'm the same chuck. I can honestly say I've felt detached and a bit bleak since the age of 8 but that's me and countless others.
In terms of full blown depression. (Panic attacks, moments of euphoria matched seconds later by unbearable bouts of hopelessness leading to suicidal thoughts, hallucinations, anxiety) there was one period of around 7mnths in me early 20s that I overcame without meds analysis or anything other than a slow steady climb out the pit. Thankfully I haven't been back there.
The term depression has been diluted to such an extent its used for everything.
You feel sorrow - Depression.
Guilt - Depression
Regret - Depression
Remorse - Depression
Confusion - Depression
Sleep apnoea - Depression
Tiredness - Depression
It's flagged, pinned and pandered to without consideration for what it actually is.
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rabidfish
02.17.17 | yea, that too... Many people who think have depression when they only have shitty fucked up lives. |
UndineParty
02.17.17 | Mine doesn't come and go been consistent for 7 going on 8 years now |
zakalwe
02.17.17 | Stay clear of the weed |
rabidfish
02.17.17 | exactly, mental health is serious shit, not a "rough day, man" or "i'm just not feeling it lately" kinda bullshit... like just being sad or detached makes you mentally ill.
Fuck that. |
henryChinaski
02.17.17 | Wow, crazy story. Good to hear you seem to be okay and safe. Hope you get better man! |
guitarded_chuck
02.17.17 | I think what it really is is the inability to feel joy or at least moderation during what should be events in life when one ought to feel that way. |
SCREAM!
02.17.17 | " But basically I've been diagnosed as having depression, and aspergers syndrome. It's a milder form of autism, and I know Autism is somewhat of a running joke on the internet, which is why I'm not so hot on telling the entire story, but your story has made me think I should at some point"
I definitely understand where you're coming from in wanting to keep it to yourself and I would probably do the same in your situation. However, it takes brave people to stand up and tell their stories so that we can steadily get over the stigmas that are associated with these "illnesses" and grow better educated as a population. It'll be your call in the end and either course of action is respectable/understandable but I hope you can find it in you one day to talk about it and tell your story. |
guitarded_chuck
02.17.17 | And z I'd say for most people to stay clear of the weed but I swear to god the right strain with the right people it can be a medicinal thing. I know you're not gonna believe me but like I've said before in comparing times when I've used it vs not used it I'm actually more balanced and creative when I do vs when I don't. Requires the right strain and moderation of course as with anything. I don't use it every day or all day or something like that. |
zakalwe
02.17.17 | Chuck. That's good old fashioned apathy.
Brought about by a diet of bullshit, lack of respect, admiration, concession and freedom exacerbated by a demand for instant gratification, drugs, seclusion and confusion. |
SCREAM!
02.17.17 | "Chuck. That's good old fashioned apathy."
I'm not sure what your point is here. Feelings of apathy is a pretty well known effect of depression and chuck is saying that it helped him with fighting this. |
guitarded_chuck
02.17.17 | It can be apathy and it can also be a chemical imbalance the doesn't allow you feel what is the healthy biological reward system.
Happiness isn't magic. It's dopamine and friends.
It's only apathy if one has no desire to feel happiness. |
zakalwe
02.17.17 | Love, kids, health, determination, sun, vit d, sense of achievement, focus, goals, accomplishment, warmth. They all give hope and hope is absolutely fucking vital. |
guitarded_chuck
02.17.17 | yeah no doubt |
zakalwe
02.17.17 | When I was in the depths I found that it was just an abscence of hope regardless of what you had or didn't have. Absolutely fucking dreadful.
Writing this sort of stuff down makes it all seem so bearable and of no substance but at the time it was terrible. The absolute worst, total hell. |
guitarded_chuck
02.17.17 | Thank god for the internet as an outlet. Not that I'm embarrassed to talk about with it with friends and family, it's that most of them who have no experience have no benchmark and therefore are unable to empathize or understand. |
danielito19
02.17.17 | Both my siblings have the anxiety and depression cocktail,my dad has anxiety, and my mom is neurotypical and doesn't understand that she consistently causes difficulty in our lives. |
zakalwe
02.17.17 | What the fuckin hell is neurotypical? |
Satellite
02.17.17 | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=neurotypical |
zakalwe
02.17.17 | Anyone would've thought this was a flowing conversation. |
danielito19
02.17.17 | Not mentally ill |
zakalwe
02.17.17 | No such thing. |
Friday13th
02.17.17 | Hope you keep feeling better. Tbh, I was expecting a long-winded joke that ends with the doctor saying, "Bruh, you 1.0'd Darkside but 5.0'd the Wall? That's mental!" |
hobblepot
02.17.17 | "Sweeney people who use autism as an insult are useless pieces of shit that lack empathy. I'm sorry you had to go through that and if you ever tell your story I'll be there to listen."
Thankyou dude, a lot of people I know will happily use autism as an insult, but make fun of someone for being vegan? Then you've somehow overstepped the line |
wham49
02.17.17 | sounds like this could be turned into a movie, has everything including a happy ending, so what happened with the chick? |
danielito19
02.17.17 | I play dota 2 so any time someone makes a mistake it's "autistic" this and "retard" that. There are plenty of ways to call someone an idiot that aren't slurs, that's the beauty of the English language.
And that's just fucking stupid. Veganism is a choice. Autism is not. You don't insult people on things they can't choose. |
wham49
02.17.17 | well put dan, anybody who uses those words in a derogatory way shows their ignorance and sound uneducated |
danielito19
02.17.17 | This fucking website is rife with ableist slurs too, but call someone out and they just call you an SJW. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ |
MrSirLordGentleman
02.17.17 | "sounds like this could be turned into a movie, has everything including a happy ending"
It already exists something pretty similar: "It's Kind of a Funny Story" from 2010 |
Spec
02.17.17 | Good on ya dude. |
AsleepInTheBack
02.17.17 | sobering story. all the best Trebor |
danielito19
02.17.17 | Trebor are you in a huge amount of medical debt now? |
Trebor.
02.17.17 | "How's the girl? How is your family treating now? Any different?"
I haven't heard from her yet, she wasn't sure when she was gonna get out so yeah
My family has always been really supportive. I lost my mom last year though, that's a huge part why my mental state collapsed
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zakalwe
02.17.17 | Stay well clear dude, it'll be a total fucking disaster. |
Trebor.
02.17.17 | "Trebor are you in a huge amount of medical debt now?"
probably, it was all through my insurance at least |
Conmaniac
02.17.17 | damn man glad youre ok. really interesting story though and good luck with that girl! |
danielito19
02.17.17 | I'm glad you were at least partially covered dude, my parents have had to pay outta pocket for my brother's stays at the hospital before. Good luck with whatever insurance didn't cover ++ that girl |
Hep Kat
02.17.17 | You probably shouldn't imbibe cannabis anymore, honestly. If you do, sativa only, and extraordinarily sparingly at best. THC will help with the anxiety, and it's infintely preferable to lorazapam. I imagine you take that PRN, yeah? |
Hep Kat
02.17.17 | Don't even consider trying to fuck with any girls or shit, dude. You're not in proper order for that. Also, please don't get intimate with anyone you met in treatment of any capacity. I have quite a few times with absolutely astonishing and brilliant girls, both physically and intellectually, too many times, and it is a big reason why I'm as fucked up as I am.
My daughter's mother and I met not directly, but by proxy, under such circumstances. Not a good look a decade later |
Spec
02.17.17 | paying for health care in 2017 |
danielito19
02.17.17 | That's America for you Spec. |
SitruK6
02.17.17 | Damn dude. Hope everything works out with that girl |
DikkoZinner
02.17.17 | Good/interesting write-up. All the best |
Trebor.
02.17.17 | "You probably shouldn't imbibe cannabis anymore, honestly. If you do, sativa only, and extraordinarily sparingly at best. THC will help with the anxiety, and it's infintely preferable to lorazapam. I imagine you take that PRN, yeah?"
I smoke weed like once a month, I'm not too worried about it. I have been advised to quit drinking so I have. I only take lorazapam when I have a panic attack, which has been semi-frequent lately, but hopefully I can get them down |
MillionDead
02.17.17 | I'm really happy to hear that this was an overall nice experience and it was just a good read. Best of luck with keeping everything manageable, Treb. |
Gameofmetal
02.17.17 | best of luck homie |
Hep Kat
02.18.17 | Yeah, PRN = as needed, which makes sense as lorazapam and alprazolam are the benzos with short half lives.
I take klonopin in moderation BDI (which is to say on a set schedule). I get a consistent reaction to it, something that was never the case with the aforementioned two, recreationally speaking or otherwise |
LambsBread
02.18.17 | i think you should generally trust "medical professionals" but be careful with psychologists/psychiatrists. A lot of them are pretentious hacks and psychology and psychiatry are very soft sciences. In the future psychology will he looked back upon as astronomers view astrologists today. It's not as concrete as they pretend.
There's also a money making aspect involved that encourages pushing medications on people for money. People are just monkeys. If you give them a choice to make a million dollars and prescribe drugs that make you dependent and are short-cure snake oil scams to 10 random kids, a lot of people will, even ones who smile, are extremely friendly, and "treat you like everyone else". If Obama can convince millions of people he's not a phony don't think it's hard for one greedy doctor to convince 10 kids he's not a phony.
A lot of problems with depression are cured naturally by exposing yourself to different ways of thinking. A lot of doctors don't understand this or only pay lip service to it while their blinded to the money because fo the money they can make by prescribing drugs
You should do your own research if you really want to escape depression. You want to know who actually has your best interest at heart and who thinks they know truths that aren't actually true who will mislead you.
For example they used to prescribe all kinds of anti-depressants for veterans with PTSD, then someone just decided to try giving them dogs and it worked much better. The former was done partly out of greed, partly out of a lack of imagination and overrespect for psychologists. Remember they considered homosexuality a mental disease about a decade ago...
Seek second opinions and research for yourself.
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LambsBread
02.18.17 | Also don't give up on the idea that depression isn't curable.
There are probably some people for whom it is not curable.
But there are also probably infinitely more people who could have been cured but relied on the advise of imbeciles, devious frauds or hacks with a "degree" who didn't escape depression simply because they took bad advice their entire life. |
LambsBread
02.18.17 | I seriously can't stress this enough: there is so much money in depression drugs. There is so much incentive to push them on you when you don't necessarily need them and make your problem even worse. Be very carefuL. I know something about politics and if I can tell you big pharma is by far the sleaziest and most heartless modern industry today.
It's the only one that comes close to the marxists claim of how corporations operate with secret evil motives. There are devilish people in big pharma And probably even more confused idiots who will do you just as bad.
That's not to say "don't trust your current doctor because he proscribed you meds" but you should be hyper-vigilante and know the background of the industry as much as possible and seek as many alternate philosophies regarding depression as possible. |
zakalwe
02.18.17 | I completely agree |
Zig
02.18.17 | Read this last night. What a journey, just wrote yourself a good short story. Glad everything turn out okay. |
hobblepot
02.18.17 | "Also don't give up on the idea that depression isn't curable"
That depends on the type of depression you have. If it's purely from your circumstances, and not a biological defect, then therapy and anti-depressants tend to work much better. If its purely because your brain doesn't produce enough seratonin, it's unlikely you'll be "cured", because the biological defect tends to be there at birth through to death. Depression can be a constant, or you can have bad days and good days. Mine is biological, and sort of a side effect if you will of having aspergers. I'm constantly aware of how different and bizarre my behaviour can be, and I can never be sure if someone understands me or if they're just pretending too. On the whole therapist thing, a past girlfriend of mine did psychology at college and thought she new everything. So when I told her of my aspergers diagnosis, she immediately denied it, and tried to diagnose me herself. She came to the conclusion that I was "faking it" just so I'd have an excuse to be different. That made me think I should get a re-diagnosis, which I did, and low and behold, they confirmed I had aspergers. They also diagnosed me a sociopath, but thats a long story for another time |
MO
02.18.17 | all the best trebs m/ glad to hear you're alright. also congrats on the staff promo m/m/ |
Spec
02.18.17 | treb you fucking made it, staff writer boiiiiiiiiii |
Trebor.
02.18.17 | :) |
Relinquished
02.18.17 | m/m/m/m/m/m/m/m/m/m/m/ |
LambsBread
02.18.17 | @sweetney
Getting two or three opinions from psychologists doesn't ensure you have confirmed the truth of your diagnosis. If you were gay and went to 20 psychologists ten years ago they would all say you are mentally ill and prescribe you deadly drugs |
hal1ax
02.18.17 | hereditary biochemical imbalances can be remedied. do research on 'neuroplasticity'. getting on the right meds, engaging in effectual talk therapy, and adopting the right attitude//perceptions can actually permanently alter your brain chemistry for the better. this can also work conversely too, which is why it's so important to learn how to change your negative thought processes//patterns. |
LambsBread
02.18.17 | Before you try meds you should
A) travel
B) get a dog
C) go to a strip club |
hal1ax
02.18.17 | lol agreed. meds should be a last resort--only in dire circumstances. SSRI's have proven to be completely ineffectual for treating shallower forms of depression on its spectrum, and likewise for the more persistent//milder symptomatic manifestations (dysthymia // cyclothymia, etc.) |
Spec
02.18.17 | aren't you like 14 though? |
zakalwe
02.18.17 | Dogs, pick up their shite, feed em, walk em. That's all there is to it and the joy they give back is immeasurable.
Dogs > |
hal1ax
02.18.17 | me? |
hobblepot
02.18.17 | People who think travelling, pets, and sex can cure depression most likely don't suffer from depression. I tried travelling, I was depressed but in a different country. I already have two dogs, and yeah, they make me happy, but they don't stop the sadness. Going to a strip club is a depressing prospect in of itself. For one, when you're depressed, your sex drive tends to slow or stop completely. I mean come on, you're surrounded by lonely men, throwing money at women who are only interested in you for your money. It's one of the saddest places you can go. My advice to anyone who's depressed is to consult your doctor immediately, and if they recommend medication, take it. It will help you. It won't cure you, but a lot of them balance your hormones, so you're not sad, your just fine. Plus the ones i'm on help you sleep, and make you hungry, so you manage to eat and sleep healthily, which is good because when I'm down, I forget to eat, and I can go days without sleep |
hal1ax
02.18.17 | lol i don't think his comment was meant to be taken literally. i think he just meant that, sometimes, before blindly taking whatever medication your doctor recommends to you (as you just said), try to naturally resolve the issue. like i previously said, SSRI's are really only effective for certain people // pathological forms of depression, and if you are severely depressed and are taking antidepressants without combining them with some form of talk therapy, they are probably less effective than simple regimented exercise // dietary changes. |
UndineParty
02.18.17 | I think pets make things worse when you're really low, if you can't take care of yourself how you going to take care of a pet? |
Winesburgohio
02.18.17 | lms if u posting from a psychiatric facility rn ;)
seriously though beautiful and important read, solidarity from the antipodes and ditto on the 'if ur suicidal ideations are bad don't even finish this comment (though i appreciate your autonomy and capacity to decide 4 urself) and hit up da trauma centre' |
Winesburgohio
02.18.17 | also pets are fucking gr8 for panic disorder str8 up and also provide bipolar ppl with stabilizing routine so yeah |
luci
02.18.17 | "People who think travelling, pets, and sex can cure depression most likely don't suffer from depression"
this instantly made me think of the lyrics to Cranes in the Sky |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | @sweeney
I mean if you want to be depressed you'll be depressed. You'll deny that's what you want but your actions speak louder than words.
If you go to a different country and stay in your hotel room the entire time you have no one to blame but yourself.
Youre going to have to go through some periods of discomfort to enjoy life. You poor thing. Are we supposed to feel bad for you because you have to work up the courage to talk to say "how's it going" to a stranger in a bar? Oh dear god the person ignored you!!!! Who gives a fuck? Toughen up and move on. Stop acting like a little girl.
Traveling works for people who actually try to make something out of it. You just have to get over your anxiety. Have a couple of beers, watch a football game, relax, breathe slow and deep and enjoy the moment instead of worrying about the future and the past, and start a conversation. You won't be depressed unless you try to be.
Your dogs don't end the sadness? Gee that's a shock. Dogs aren't euphoria prodicing gods, they are friends. Everyone gets sad from time to time, you just need to deal with it and consider that your medication might be making your sadness more extreme and prolonged so someone could make money off you by making you dependent.
Ive never seen a man with tits in both of his hands who isn't smiling. If you're smiling you're not depressed. Youre being a baby. I've been there. i don't blame you because free will is an illusion, but the point is once you give certain things an ACTUAL try they will probably work. you sound like you're just going through the motions so you have a checklist of things you can say that didn't work to justify your drug use.
I don't doubt some people need meds. But for every 1 person who needs them there's probably 99 people who are just upset cuz they haven't felt a pair of tits in a while, had a beer and watched sports with their dog and a friend.
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LambsBread
02.19.17 | I highly recommend listening to Mike Cernovich. Our society has been pussified and we always look to blame God/nature/others for problems we can often fix with a little grit and hard work.
The key word is hard. You can't just lay around every day and expect life to get better. You have to do things you don't like to do every day to achieve your vision. Work out. Talk to strangers even though it's uncomftorable at first.
Most problems stem from feeling inferior in some way. The sad truth is you probably are inferior but can fix it with effort. Do your best and forget the rest. If you don't do your best don't look for sympathy from anyone but people trying to sell you life destroying drugs.
None of this necessarily applies to Trebor. But in general this is the truth from what I've experienced |
Trundle
02.19.17 | big ups for working through it man, i know what those places are like first hand |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | Actually forget the part about beer, but if you have bad social anxiety I wouldn't rule it out entirely, but it's really easy to abuse it and become an alcoholic. Most Americans are alcoholics.
Read Gorillla Mindset. It's a 100 page book. Actually DO what it tells you. If you don't read the book I offer you you simply aren't taking my advice and I don't want to waste time on people who don't take advice. Most all people don't take advice. They ask for advice to try to convince themselves they are trying to fix their problems, then ignore all the advice they receive. This is something you can only fix yourself and you shouldn't be surprised when people give up on you after you routinely ignore their advice after asking for it ( think people who hire a personal trainer, ignore everything they say to do, then blame their trainer). Most all people do this. You have to be exceptional to actually take advice, but it's the key to everything, actually DOING the advice you ask for. |
Sinternet
02.19.17 | 'You just have to get over your anxiety.'
spoken like someone who has never experienced anxiety
or any real problems at all for that matter
continue to be the worst user on the site by a country mile |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | Get over yourself and your obsessive hatred for me growing out of the pouty brat phase you are in and stop trying to derail a positive thread. |
Trebor.
02.19.17 | I just wrote a huge reply to Lambs that got deleted fuck. But anyway I've had a lot of trauma and I have intrusive thoughts/memories that I can't just will away |
UndineParty
02.19.17 | "Read Gorillla Mindset. It's a 100 page book. Actually DO what it tells you. If you don't read the book I offer you you simply aren't taking my advice and I don't want to waste time on people who don't take advice. Most all people don't take advice. They ask for advice to try to convince themselves they are trying to fix their problems, then ignore all the advice they receive. This is something you can only fix yourself and you shouldn't be surprised when people give up on you after you routinely ignore their advice after asking for it ( think people who hire a personal trainer, ignore everything they say to do, then blame their trainer). Most all people do this. You have to be exceptional to actually take advice, but it's the key to everything, actually DOING the advice you ask for."
😅😂 |
Trebor.
02.19.17 | I don't think many people with depression/anxiety would view your comments as positive |
Sinternet
02.19.17 | whats the point in typing a long reply? it's not like anything he'll post back will be of any importance anyway, just a load of fluff about how superior he is and how he knows absolutely everything. |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | How pathetic do you have to be to come into a suicide thread and start begging for attention based on your anxiety?
Tell us you're woeful problems sinternet or stfu. You're probably just making mountains outta molehills. |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | Of course they won't view my comments as positive. It's called denial.
A heroin addict thinks his family is being negative when they try to get him to go to rehab.
It's called tough love and most of this site desperately needs it. |
Trebor.
02.19.17 | I'm feeling a light to strong ban coming soon if this escalates any further |
hal1ax
02.19.17 | "I've had a lot of trauma and I have intrusive thoughts/memories that I can't just will away"
ya man, unfortunately it's a much longer road to recovery for some. i've also dealt with a lot of deeply embedded distress // agony. untangling and effacing the subterranean maladies lurking within the subconscious is difficult but it's absolutely achievable. you will get there. |
Deathconscious
02.19.17 | Clearly you dont know shit about this subject lambs, fuck off like you said you were going to. |
Sinternet
02.19.17 | you have the most pathetic 'advice' i've ever seen lol
you're the classic person who thinks it's their duty to make everyone do things their way and then just ends up making everything worse, because you are too narrow-minded to look at things in any way other than your own degenerate ideas
f o a d |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | You're going to ban someone giving you advice on how to cure your depression that you asked for, instead of even trying the advice.
Tell me more about how none of your problems stem from yourselves. |
UndineParty
02.19.17 | No one follows lambs advice because it's really dumb.
Hey guys dont worry drink a nice can of booze and watch a football game, put a nice pair of tits in ur hand. 😂 |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | I haven't given you any advice sInternet because you're too bottled up to even discuss what it is that is bothering you.
You can't call advice bad advice if you haven't even tried doing that advice.
You're lying to yourselves. I've been there.
The fact that you are so hostile to someone giving their opinion says a lot. |
Trebor.
02.19.17 | Implying that I can cure my depression is laughable dude |
Trundle
02.19.17 | lambs, go kick rocks |
Sinternet
02.19.17 | i'm hostile to you because you're an absolute fucking retard who no-one on this site likes and only comes here to act like a degenerate asshole
now please
f o a d |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | This is the thing. How are you going to say you know I'm wrong when you explicitly aren't doing any of the advice I tell you to follow?
You can call me stupid. That's just an assumption you're making. You'll never know if im right or not if you don't actually try it. You're purposely trying to simplify my advice to "beer and tits" while ignoring 99% of the rest.
It's all about saying " I tried that and it didn't work" when you didn't try it.
I know because I've been through all of this. You can't tell me I don't know these things. |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | "Implying that I can cure my depression is laughable dude"
I said the same thing ten years ago.
Here I am. No serious depression. You're just being dismissive. You haven't had it any worse than I have. |
Deathconscious
02.19.17 | Hes right guys, maybe you should try his expert advice before you trash it. Maybe lambs has the cure to depression and anxiety after all, who knows! |
UndineParty
02.19.17 | Lambsbreads cured depression with fat tiddies, a can of beer and Superbowl sunday
Next please find cure for cancer and aids |
Sinternet
02.19.17 | 'You haven't had it any worse than I have.'
ahahaha gatekeeping over depression what a fucking loser |
voltairesangryglove
02.19.17 | tbf he does seem like quite a miserable cunt |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | I'm not pretending I have an elixir for your depression. But i do know I know ways that work for many people and I've helped many people including myself escape depression that they thought was incurable.
You guys simply have green eggs and ham type thinking. You can't possibly know if I'm giving bad advice until you try it. This is undeniable.
Why do you think I'm spending my time trying to give you advice? I have no spare time. This is hurting my job and might ruin my career to give you this advice. Consider taking it instead of hating me for being a troll on a music site and refusing to do something that MIGHT help. |
voltairesangryglove
02.19.17 | "The fact that you are so hostile to someone giving their opinion says a lot."
also lol this sentence sums up your presence here rather perfectly |
Spec
02.19.17 | LambsBread confirmed for the absolute dumbest fucking user on the site. |
voltairesangryglove
02.19.17 | "Why do you think I'm spending my time trying to give you advice?"
because you genuinely have nothing better to do? |
Trebor.
02.19.17 | Lambs logic basically be "how do you know dogshit tastes like shit if you've never tried it?" |
voltairesangryglove
02.19.17 | it's astounding that he hasn't referenced obama yet itt |
Spec
02.19.17 | "Just get over your anxiety you libtard cuck" -LambsBread at some point probably. |
voltairesangryglove
02.19.17 | "If Obama can convince millions of people he's not a phony don't think it's hard for one greedy doctor to convince 10 kids he's not a phony."
edit: nevermind |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | TBH the way y'all are mocking someone heartfelt advice is sad. Don't pretend I'm the troll here. No one in psychiatry mocks people with alternative advice.
This has nothing to do with any of you. Let trebor or anyone else who claims to have depression respond and leave me alone. Why do you feel the need to turn this into a joke? Obviously none of you take this seriously enough. The thing about the strip club was partly a joke. It was meant to be lighthearted. I'm just giving examples of ways people can avoid trying simple things that help before looking for drastic miracle treatments with drugs.
Dogs aren't a joke. They are clinically proven to work. So is travel. And a lot of depression stems from suppressing your sex drive. Finding a woman is probably the most important thing in life. I shouldn't have made a joke about strip clubs but I figured people wouldn't be so obtuse as to pretend I was giving serious advice for making 1 titty joke in a 10000 word comment.
I'm ignoring all haters. I'll respond to anyone who actually discusses the ideas I say seriously. |
Trebor.
02.19.17 | lol |
voltairesangryglove
02.19.17 | "I'll respond to anyone who actually discusses the ideas I say seriously."
don't everyone volunteer at once! |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | ""If Obama can convince millions of people he's not a phony don't think it's hard for one greedy doctor to convince 10 kids he's not a phony."
Substitute Obama for trump.
It's undeniable, regardless of your political beliefs, that people can be tricked in mass numbers. |
Spec
02.19.17 | "No one in psychiatry mocks people with alternative advice."
Yeah they fucking do all the time. Like if someone says 'stop taking your meds that stuff is poison, just take vitamin d tablets, buy a dog and travel the world. Depression=Cured.' |
UndineParty
02.19.17 | "Why do you think I'm spending my time trying to give you advice? I have no spare time. This is hurting my job and might ruin my career to give you this advice"
I can't handle this 😂😂😂😂 |
voltairesangryglove
02.19.17 | "Finding a woman is probably the most important thing in life." -man spending his saturday night arguing on a music review site |
Spec
02.19.17 | "This has nothing to do with any of you. Let trebor or anyone else who claims to have depression"
It's just lucky that he is smart enough to ignore your horrible advice. It scares me that you probably tell people this outside of sputnik and there's a slight chance they will believe you. |
Trebor.
02.19.17 | Bruh I never said I expected drugs to work wonders, I know what they have to offer and right now I still need what they offer. Like duh I would be way happier right now in a relationship but I'm not sooo |
hal1ax
02.19.17 | a lot of work has to be done before someone with a severe pathology can even learn to enjoy leaving the house, let alone traveling, watching sports with groups of people, and.. whatever the "tits" thing was about. the work always has to start introspectively--learning how to change and thwart away the maladaptive thoughts//perceptions, not drawing faulty and illusory conclusions, unearthing and confronting painful and traumatic past experiences which have since been profoundly repressed, etc. changed thoughts//perceptions lead to changed feelings which then lead to changed behavior. you can't just simply immerse someone into an ostensibly positive environment and think that the individual is going to somehow process this constructively // or in the same way you did. |
Sinternet
02.19.17 | bro do you think hiring six midget hookers will cure my schizophrenia? |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | This is the thing. I'm the only one here who gives a fuck about trebor.
The rest of you are just trying to look good and go through the "oh I'm glad you are ok" cliches.
I've been through this. Probably had it worse than anyone on this site by far, and I can tell you people like you are utter poison. It's veey unfortunate trebor is listening to yall and I don't expect him not to. It's easier to listen to a bunch of phonies who kiss your ass and avoid any harshness than take hard truth from the only person who actually cares.
This site basically is complete assholes to every other user, then someone goes through a serious crisis and all of you pretend you're friendly for a month or two, then things go back to normal. You are all using me as a punching bag to try to obscure this fact and pretend I'm the only one who trolls here.
No. This site is a living hell. You people are genuinely mean spirited and the fact that you give a cliche "glad you're ok" to this is ridiculous. You people joke about "killing yourself" constantly, you told me to kill myself multiple times, now you want to pretend I'm the one being frivolous.
It's not like "eating dogshit" there are countless psychiatrists who say the same things in saying. Travel. Relationships. Animals. Empathy. Etc you're simply refusing to try advice. |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | "'stop taking your meds that stuff is poison, just take vitamin d tablets, buy a dog and travel the world. Depression=Cured.'"
I didn't say that. You're just being facetious. I have no time for you.
Trebor I don't know what to tell you dude. I know you don't believe me but I can tell you for a fact these people don't have your interest at heart. Hit me up with your email sometime if you ever want to actually hear out what I'm saying. I Gaurantee you aren't understanding my argument, it has been distorted beyond belief by thisn site of facetious people and I don't blame you at all for not wanting to go against the grain on this site right now.
Oh and I AM GLAD YOU ARE OK (wow I'm such a good person) |
voltairesangryglove
02.19.17 | "I've been through this. Probably had it worse than anyone on this site by far"
way to make it all about you, fucktard.
"You are all using me as a punching bag"
deservedly so.
"This site is a living hell."
ok leave (again) then. nobody likes you.
"Empathy"
yes you simply exude empathy in all your posts /s |
Pasts
02.19.17 | What are some of your experiences with anxiety/depression/addiction? Just curious because it seems like a few of the users here have been through it for reql |
voltairesangryglove
02.19.17 | people are mean to him on the internet :'( |
EliteTaste
02.19.17 | "Probably had it worse than anyone on this site by far, and I can tell you people like you are utter poison."
I can imagine being a mentally challenged neo-fascist is pretty bad yeah
I'd say I hope it gets better but it seems incurable at this point
that is unless they excise 3/4 of your 10 brain cells to try and fix that cognitive imbalance |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | "Bruh I never said I expected drugs to work wonders, I know what they have to offer and right now I still need what they offer. Like duh I would be way happier right now in a relationship but I'm not sooo"
So call that girl for a date and don't let anxiety be the same excuse I used for years of my life. |
EliteTaste
02.19.17 | "What are some of your experiences with anxiety/depression/addiction?"
tbh I'd answer this but it's probably best we just stick with sending our love hearts to trebor ❤️💛💚💙💜 |
Spec
02.19.17 | Which multivitamin is the best to cure my opiate addiction and depression? |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | "I can imagine being a mentally challenged neo-fascist is pretty bad yeah"
These are the type of people you are listening to. I'm discussing the worst moments of my life candidly and they are insulting me. I know they've done the same to you before. Don't listen to them. I really have to go. I'm seriously glad you're ok and Im Not trying to put you down at all or act like I know better than you. But I feel obligated to share my experience.
You can ignore me if you want but all I can tell you is I made the same msitske years before and ruined years of my life for doing so. Peace for now |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | I get this all sounds weird because Ive trolled this site for so long, but it's a boy who cried wolf kinda thing. Just please listen to what I've read with an open mind sometime and try to ignore the fact it's coming from lambsread. I'm begging |
voltairesangryglove
02.19.17 | "Which multivitamin is the best to cure my opiate addiction and depression?"
try ginseng along with trolling the forums with an anti-hillary alt. |
Sinternet
02.19.17 | can you make that peace forever? you keep promising us you'll leave and failing to deliver. |
Spec
02.19.17 | Is that the key to unlocking the secrets to Lambs's wonderful life? |
voltairesangryglove
02.19.17 | "it's a boy who cried wolf kinda thing"
somehow i doubt you heard how that story ends |
voltairesangryglove
02.19.17 | @spec yes, and if you add a dog to the mix you'll attain eternal enlightenment |
Sinternet
02.19.17 | almost. you forgot to print out some certificates you made on powerpoint to use as 'degrees' |
Spec
02.19.17 | Tbh I can agree that having a dog helps a lot but not if you can't take care of it on your own. |
Satellite
02.19.17 | my family dog is 90% of the reason why i visit home every few months. i've definitely never felt depressed while wrestling w/ that beast. so that's probably the most salient thing lambsbread's ever said on this site.
on the other hand, fuck him for suggesting that the people itt don't have a genuine concern/empathy for treb's situation. this thread was nothing but civil discourse in the form of encouragement and ppl sharing their own issues w/ depression until he reared his ugly head.
basically we as a site need to stop engaging him at all and falling to his level. |
UndineParty
02.19.17 | I think laughing at lambsbread cheered me up (: |
Deathconscious
02.19.17 | "Oh and I AM GLAD YOU ARE OK (wow I'm such a good person)"
Sounds like youre projecting. Maybe some of us are actually glad hes ok and want to tell him so you fucking idiot. |
EliteTaste
02.19.17 | "These are the type of people you are listening to. I'm discussing the worst moments of my life candidly and they are insulting me. I know they've done the same to you before. Don't listen to them. I really have to go. I'm seriously glad you're ok and Im Not trying to put you down at all or act like I know better than you. But I feel obligated to share my experience."
tbh if you were this much of a pussy in your "libertarian utopia" you'd die in a week |
talktothehead
02.19.17 | Wow I just read all of Lambs comments. Pretty disgusting tbh |
JeetJeet
02.19.17 | Jesus Christ what did this devolve into? |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | Basically I said "don't just rush into taking meds, exhaust all other approaches first and keep an open mind, I speak from experience"
And a bunch of trolls ironically told me to kill myself because I'm mentally ill, without fathoming the irony, while strawmanning what I said beyond belief.
Just another day on sputnik |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | "on the other hand, fuck him for suggesting that the people itt don't have a genuine concern/empathy for treb's situation. this thread was nothing but civil discourse in the form of encouragement and ppl sharing their own issues w/ depression until he reared his ugly head."
Sorry but if you're going to insult me for suggesting he doesn't just blindly follow the advice of big pharma and become like millions of other people who are hopelessly dependent on money-making-drugs you indeed don't give a fuck or are So naive you're giving a fuck is actually a problem.
Pay attention to who I'm @ ing and read ALL of my comments, especially the first ones, or you aren't understanding the context of what I'm saying
Most of my comments were not directed towards Trebor, they were directed towards people insulting me for absolutely no reason other than attempting to virtue signal. I specifically said over and over that meds are necessary for some people and bizarrely had ten different people telling me to kill myself "for saying a strip club will cure depression for everyone".
Yes how decent of you to be facetious and strawman my advice in a life-or-death topic. You guys really are my moral superior. |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | People are more concerned with holding an Internet grudge toward me than coming in the way of potentially useful advice that they know nothing about but shit on anyway "cuz it's lambsbread".
Try explaining how it's rational to be hostile towards someone offering honest advice, who is somewhat educated in the topic and has direct experience? If Trebor doesn't want my advice he doesn't have to take it. If he would have said he didn't like what I was saying and he wanted me to stop I would have. I was simply trying to exchange ideas I thought he might not have been exposed to and he obviously cared enough to write a long comment that's unfortunately got deleted. None of this had anything to do with the rest of you but you just HAD to But into a 1 on 1 conversation. This isn't about Trebor to SInternet and others, it's about being an opportunist and taking an opportunity to shit on me when I'm vulnerable because of a very petty and immature Internet grudge. |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | "Wow I just read all of Lambs comments. Pretty disgusting tbh"
Name one single thing I actually said, actually quote it, don't paraphrase it, and I'll explain why you are either slandering me or misinterpreting what I said. |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | You guys exposed your hand by telling me to kill myself instead of just saying you disagree or you find my advice to be inappropriate, too tough etc
You pretend to be supporting someone who just nearly killed himself while ironically resorting to cyber-bullying, which is a top cause of suicide.
Give
Me
A
Fucking
Break.
If none of you butted in me and Trebor could have had a reasonable discussion. You all slandered me and made what I said harsher than it was intended to be in the process.
I was speaking from the perspective of someone who overcame anxiety, at a much later age than Trebor, I'm not talking down to him in any way, I'm explaining the mental hurdles that are necessary to overcome to escape crippling anxiety because it's not rare for people to think they have clinical depression when they actually have curable depression. It's extremely common. I don't know if it applies to Trebor but it also doesn't hurt to have a basic discussion. Please just leave me alone and insult me in other threads, I'm not trying to have pointless dick-measuring contests with you (sInternet) here.
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LambsBread
02.19.17 | Honestly, I read a thread about someone reading a dark suicide book and I'm not supposed to give honest advice about looking in the brighter side of life and changing your habits? I see some reasonable people (not sInternet) being genuinely outraged and I simply have no idea how you could possibly be outraged based on anything I said. |
Deathconscious
02.19.17 | holy shit, shut the fuck up already. |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | Sorry I don't take orders from fake Internet tough guys butting into my
Conversations |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | "Maybe some of us are actually glad hes ok and want to tell him so you fucking idiot."
Never said people werent genuinely happy to see him back, I said people who are insulting me / distorting my advice are misguided or trolls with petty grudges, and your cliches don't amount to moral superiority over my candid take-it-or-leave it advice.
Sorry, but the whole strawman what I said and feign outrage thing isn't gonna work. Or maybe you just can't read, idk and idc. Stop talking to me and I'll return the favor. |
voltairesangryglove
02.19.17 | if overcoming anxiety means becoming a self-aggrandizing music website pariah like you, i'm content with being anxious.
also this isn't a fucking AIM conversation. people can call you out on and laugh at your dumb comments as much as they like. eat shit. |
zakalwe
02.19.17 | I did that once and wound up in a mental hospital. Nutty. |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | Uh yeah you CAN be a facetious immature child and butt into conversations you aren't part of with asinine distortions of my advice and painfully stupid jokes, but it kinda flys in the face of you pretending to care about Trebor or being a decent person in general. [insert edgy Internet insult here E.G. EAT SHIT!] |
LambsBread
02.19.17 | "Look someone giving heartfelt advice! Let me arrogantly and dismissively insult them and try to dissuade them from helping with harmless take-or-or-leave-it-advice. Am I cool yet?! EAT SHITTTT!!!"
https://pics.onsizzle.com/i-dont-give-in-n-what-the-i-dont-give-7578664.png |
Deathconscious
02.19.17 | lol hes still going. |
EliteTaste
02.19.17 | you're actually embarrassing yourself at this point |
Aids
02.19.17 | nvm 1 |
Aids
02.19.17 | nvm 2 |
Winesburgohio
02.19.17 | fffffffffffffffff |
Deathconscious
02.19.17 | Well you must be a masochiiiiist
To love a modern sputnik on its last leg
on its last leg
We crippled your heart one hundred times and still cant work out whyyy
You see, we've got this disease that we cant shake and we're just wasting our lives |
Winesburgohio
02.19.17 | BUT i don't know if this has been broached but: do NOT fuck this girl. do not fuck or form romantic or sexual entanglements for a while. it sounds like sanctimonious puritan bs but seriously ditch the number and focus on u 4 v bit yeah trust me |
Aids
02.19.17 | nvm 3 |
Aids
02.19.17 | nvm 4
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hobblepot
02.19.17 | "I mean if you want to be depressed you'll be depressed. You'll deny that's what you want but your actions speak louder than words."
No one who is depressed wants to be depressed. Dude, you clearly don't have depression, if you did, you'd know what simply wanting to be happy, doesn't make you happy. If you're depressed, the best thing is to consult your doctor. The rest of your comment clearly shows you know jack shit about depression, hence why instead of offering advice, you've decided to insult me. I have a girlfriend, I have friends, they're great to talk to, they take my mine off things for a while, but soon as they're gone, it all comes flooding back. "If you're smiling you're not depressed" how. fucking. stupid. are. you. You claim to have been there, from what you're saying, you had short time where you felt a little bit sorry for yourself. You clearly have never suffered from depression. You're an idiot. Shut the fuck up, you're embarrassing yourself. |
evilford
02.19.17 | glad u got help. been in the psych ward a couple times, first time for 3 weeks. it really wasn't scary at all and all of the staff were super nice and helpful. interesting read. |
Astral Abortis
02.19.17 | "No one who is depressed wants to be depressed."
You mustn't have experience real depression then.
When you're depressed, you WANT to feel nothing, to die, to lie still for days on end without eating, moving, existing.
A person suffering depression is disgusted by the idea of happiness, the idea of being part of anything.
Depression is a deep, dark fucking hole. |
Astral Abortis
02.19.17 | Although I never read this thread before that comment so I can't back up the validity of whomever you're countering. I just know that when you're depressed, you want to stay depressed. |
FullOfSounds
02.19.17 | fucking love you for that reference Adolf |
UndineParty
02.19.17 | This is no longer Trebors list
This is lambsbread victimization thread 😭 |
danielito19
02.19.17 | whoooo boy what a thread |
Trebor.
02.19.17 | Thread of the year candidate |
MrSirLordGentleman
02.19.17 | "on the other hand, fuck him for suggesting that the people itt don't have a genuine concern/empathy for treb's situation. this thread was nothing but civil discourse in the form of encouragement and ppl sharing their own issues w/ depression until he reared his ugly head."
this tbh |
talktothehead
02.20.17 | "Name one single thing I actually said, actually quote it, don't paraphrase it, and I'll explain why you are either slandering me or misinterpreting what I said."
So no matter what you're not in the wrong? You can explain anything you said away?
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danielito19
02.20.17 | textbook moving goalposts |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.20.17 | i dont like treb much at all in the slightest but i also dont think he's a garbage person deep down who deserves to suffer and he's been on the site forever and is a part of the community and i hope he can git happy and marry his psych ward girlfriend and make depressing movies together for eternity in cosmic love heaven |
hal1ax
02.20.17 | "resorting to cyber-bullying, which is a top cause of suicide." |
Tyler.
02.20.17 | this thread lmao |
Trebor.
02.20.17 | lol thanks pots |
Tyler.
02.20.17 | anytime |
Storm In A Teacup
02.20.17 | Yo treb hook up with that girl and y'all can be each other's medicine |
LambsBread
02.20.17 | "So no matter what you're not in the wrong? You can explain anything you said away?"
What a concept |
Tyler.
02.20.17 | lmao go away |
LambsBread
02.20.17 | "No one who is depressed wants to be depressed. Dude, you clearly don't have depression, if you did, you'd know what simply wanting to be happy, doesn't make you happy. If you're depressed, the best thing is to consult your doctor. The rest of your comment clearly shows you know jack shit about depression, hence why instead of offering advice, you've decided to insult me. I have a girlfriend, I have friends, they're great to talk to, they take my mine off things for a while, but soon as they're gone, it all comes flooding back. "If you're smiling you're not depressed" how. fucking. stupid. are. you. You claim to have been there, from what you're saying, you had short time where you felt a little bit sorry for yourself. You clearly have never suffered from depression. You're an idiot. Shut the fuck up, you're embarrassing yourself."
Ask any psychiatrist and they'll tell you feeling sorry for yourself is an addiction that is ultimately self defeating. (For the tenth time I'm not talking about Trebor, but most of the rest of you whining about your first world problems).
You get sad when you're alone? Welcome to the club. Why do you think this website even exists? (Burn)
I never insulted you btw. I responded to your comment and you chose to take it personally when I was speaking hypothetically.
But if you actually want to be happy instead of acting like a victim (because yes, our society rewards victim status - and if you deny this you're kidding yourself) you need to stop feeling sorry for yourself. (Still speaking hypothetically, why you would assume I was telling you how you live when you're a stranger is beyond me)
And again, for the tenth time, I didn't say I know you or this is necessarily what you are doing. You could have a chemical imbalance in your brain. But many people don't (99% of sputnik) and are just whiners/crabs who get depressed because their personality is toxic and they don't understand how putting other people down every day results in them feeling bad about themselves.
Yes Ive had depression. Yes it's curable. But by all means go ahead and take a drug that says "may cause sucidial thoughts" before listening to someone who has absolutely nothing to gain by offering you this advice except being bitched at by everyone and their grandma on an emotionally cancerous website.
Seriously if you tried drugs before quitting this site you're doing it wrong. Idc if you think I'm "depression shaming". You can't explain to me why rushing into trying drugs is a good idea or why trying other ideas is such a horrible thing to suggest.
Hope you feel better. |
LambsBread
02.20.17 | The problem with this site is the same problem with most college campuses. Whether it's psychology or politics, 18 year oldish kids get their first dose of actual education and view their professors as gods. They become arrogant and think they know something about, say, psychology, because they took 1-2 classes.
Then there's the ego screaming at them to insult anyone who dares challenge the almighty wisdom of their god (yo), because they aren't really capable of free thinking and can only regurgitate cookie-cutter stuff they heard in class, and people like me who try to get you to think critically are a complete assault to the ego you built up from the time you were a blank-slate 12th grader to now, and "being Smart" is crucial in our society and your social standing so kids become wildly pretentious in an effort to outdo each other.
Free thinkers have Been despised throughout history for similar reasons. Socrates and Galileo were hated by the church because it was an assault to their ego.
I'm basically the Socrates of Sputnik lol
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Tyler.
02.20.17 | omg dude |
hal1ax
02.20.17 | lol |
Dedes
02.20.17 | Christ people, don't make this LambsBread vs the world. Whether his advice is stupid or not doesn't matter. What matters is our awesome man Trebor is safe, not dead lying on the ground and is feeling genuinely happy at the moment. That's all that matters. If you're out of high school leave the petty drama in high school. If you're in high school then you know how much it sucks and should avoid it. I'm really happy for you Trebor, you seem like a nice man although I hardly know you well. |
hal1ax
02.20.17 | hypotheses * |
Dedes
02.20.17 | All of us will compile a mixtape with lambsbread |
LambsBread
02.20.17 | Trebor deleted my wu tang quote
And he calls himself a killer bee
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Dedes
02.20.17 | Well I mean comparing yourself to Socrates might be just slightly arrogant tbh that could've been it |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
02.20.17 | its kind of amazing how butthurt people actually get about lambsbread |
UndineParty
02.20.17 | I see no hurt butts here |
danielito19
02.20.17 | The Socrates of Sputnik |
Conmaniac
02.20.17 | generalizations make a general out of I and Zations |
hobblepot
02.20.17 | "A person suffering depression is disgusted by the idea of happiness, the idea of being part of anything."
"I just know that when you're depressed, you want to stay depressed."
No, that's called being edgy. People who are depressed, don't want to be depressed, but because they're depressed, they have little to no motivation to try and get better. Which is where anti-depressants come in, they give you a boost. I have depression, I've had it since I was 14, when I'm down, I want nothing more than to be happy. If you're depressed, but you want to be depressed, then depression shouldn't be a problem for you, cos you've got what you want. Either that or you're just an edgy cunt who thinks mental health issues are trendy |
LoLifant
02.21.17 | I don't think there would be anyone out there bringing me a bunch of food if I was in hospital so consider yourself lucky. |
atrink
02.21.17 | I don't think I've logged on here in 2 and a half years. I saw you posted on facebook about being promoted to staff, so I thought I'd come say congratulations.
Then I saw this list, and I felt like I should comment. I was in a mental hospital for 5 days about two years ago. I can't believe how much your experience mirrored mine. Thanks for this list, it helped me remember where I was and the steps I've taken in the last 2 years to help better myself.
Have a good one! |
danielito19
02.21.17 | hey good to see you atrink |
atrink
02.21.17 | Thanks man.
It seems like nothing has changed on here since I left lol. |
Trebor.
02.21.17 | whoa dude what's up?
I'm glad you're on the right track |
Gmork89
02.21.17 | Don't think we've talked on here but I'm glad you didn't do it bud. |
danielito19
02.21.17 | i mean, there;s different notable shitposters now. thats about it |
Maniac!
02.21.17 | Hey Treb. Glad you're working on getting back on track. Hope you're able to keep the new girl around for a while.
Also how does a typical sput-argument come about in a thread like this? That's a new low for this site. |
MrSirLordGentleman
02.22.17 | sputnikmagic always finds a way |
danielito19
02.22.17 | sputnikmagic always finds a way[2] |
OldCrime
02.22.17 | This too will pass. Hang in there man.
https://youtu.be/n-Tej0297wk |
Deathconscious
02.22.17 | "Also how does a typical sput-argument come about in a thread like this? That's a new low for this site."
its not very new at all. in fact i cant remember a time where i wouldnt expect something like this to happen in a thread like this since i joined in 2009. |
Astral Abortis
02.22.17 | "
No, that's called being edgy. People who are depressed, don't want to be depressed, but because they're depressed, they have little to no motivation to try and get better. Which is where anti-depressants come in, they give you a boost. I have depression, I've had it since I was 14, when I'm down, I want nothing more than to be happy. If you're depressed, but you want to be depressed, then depression shouldn't be a problem for you, cos you've got what you want. Either that or you're just an edgy cunt who thinks mental health issues are trendy"
lol |
DinosaurJones
02.22.17 | LambsBread: Sput's resident martyr. |
Gmork89
02.22.17 | its not very new at all. in fact i cant remember a time where i wouldnt expect something like this to happen in a thread like this since i joined in 2009. [2] |
danielito19
02.22.17 | Who were you back then AdolfChrist? |
EphemeralEternity
02.23.17 | "A person suffering depression is disgusted by the idea of happiness, the idea of being part of anything."
dumbest thing i've ever read. A severely depressed person may appear that way but deep down I think it's suffice to say they'd probably prefer to be able to experience pleasure and enjoyment in life, that which their malfunctioning brain chemistry is prohibiting. idk about you but I've had bouts of depression and it's honestly like an inexorable malaise that pervades your entire existence for months at a time/until you start taking happy pills, tho they're not without their own set of problems.
Admittedly there is a slight level of contentment from wallowing in self loathing/ toward life in general but it's certainly not something you'd opt for over living without depression.
Saying shit like that is sort of implying that depression is just a 'mindset' when it's a literal chemical imbalance, and that's only more applicable the 'deeper' the depression is. |
GuanoBumbershoot
02.23.17 | 1. Read all LambsBread comments
2. "I'm basically the Socrates of Sputnik lol" - LambsBread
3. "The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing" - Socrates |