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|Black Sabbath, Ranked|
This list is made out of boredom (as if there's any other reason to make a list). While putting together some office furniture I started listening to Black Sabbath, a band that I've grown up with and learned to love. Here is my list of what I believe to be the best Sabbath albums (NOTE: Most of the post-Ozzy albums are nearly interchangeable on this list, since most of them are shitty)
Master of Reality
The heaviest, slowest, dopiest, blackest Sabbath album ever made. Iommi stumbled across de-tuning, and the result is one of the most beautiful guitar tones ever produced. Sadly, they would never quite capture the same magic as they did on this album. "Into the Void" has got to be the single greatest Sabbath song of all time.
Very, very, very underrated album. Sabbath's most interesting album as far as diversity and experimentation goes. It almost verges on the realms of progressive rock. Not all of these songs are classic, but each blend interesting dashes of different genres together with Sabbath's classic sound. Every song evolves into something different, and it's all pulled off brilliantly.
The LOUDEST Sabbath album ever made. Some more experimental risks are taken, while still maintaining a tone similar to that on "Master of Reality". This album has some of Sabbath's biggest, heaviest, and loudest songs ever recorded.
This one always moves up and down the list for me. However, I can't deny the brilliance of most of these songs. Still not quite as dark as Sabbath gets, yet they managed to infuse their heavy blues sound with apocalyptic compositions. Every song here is a pseudo hit, or, Sabbath fan favorite.
While it does tend to drag at parts, this album is a fine exhibition of the band's technical skills. Seemingly more improv influenced, it showcases just how unique they were early on in their career.
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Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Sort of like "Sabotage"-lite. That classic heavy tone is almost gone, and most of these songs sound like more normal rock songs. The riffs are still great though, and awfully creative.
Heaven and Hell
BLASPHEMY! A post-Ozzy album ranking above the last two albums Ozzy did with the band? Well, the thing that makes "Heaven and Hell" better is simply an abundance of better melodies, and vocals that don't completely suck. It's pretty average, but still a good listen.
Okay, they're traveling ever further away from the classic Sabbath sound as Iommi becomes obsessed with studio dickery. Again, most of these songs sound a lot like normal rock songs, but there are some creative ideas here and a few great melodies.
Awfully similar to "Heaven and Hell", but without as many great melodies and sounding even more like "generic metal". Still, there's some decent stuff here.
Never Say Die!
Uggg...Black Sabbath trying to be somewhat peppy and "good feeling"-y. This whole album is just one big bore, though there are some neat ideas here and there.
Not really good...but at least its heavier than the other post-ozzy/post-Dio albums...it really lacks creativity though.
Funny how Sabbath tries to sound like Alice in Chains on this album. Again, really slow and boring, but not all that bad. Just entirely forgettable, really.
Just...really lame album. Shitty vocals. This isn't even the worst Sabbath has to offer.
Lame 80's metal album. Sucky.
Ummm...more lame 80's metal album with a dumb concept.
The Eternal Idol
MORE shitty 80's metal with some truly horrific lyrics and production ideas. (uggg...the drums)
AKA, the Tony Iommi solo album. Just bad. Plain and simple.
Black Sabbath and Ice-T. That is all.
|5 and 7 are my personal favorites.|
|Correct ranking (which is to say, imho):|
Master of Reality
Heaven and Hell
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Never Say Die!
the rest doesn't really count any more.
|1. Ranking is odd but you defended your points decently well so I'm good with that.|
2. Black Sabbath never tried to sound like Alice in Chains. Alice in Chain's entire career with Lenn basically sounds lien Electric Funeral with a couple more upbeat tracks thrown in.
3. You think Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules suck? That's really weird I love both of those.
|Paranoid = 1|
Master of Reality = 2
|paranoid is best everyone knows this|
|this list got me listening to Sabbath again. I've got Master of Reality on right now. |
|heaven and hell average eh? hmmmmm|
|H&H > list.|
|@convict, There are quite a few moments where they sound like Alice in Chains which IS funny because one could argue Alice in Chains was based around a lot of what Black Sabbath did. |
And I'm not a huge metal fan, that is to say, I only like certain kinds and usually the kind that dip into stranger territory. That being said, I'm not a fan of bands like Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, and the like (besides a few songs), and I'm not too into death metal or anything similar (again, outside of a few songs). I really like thrash (I love Slayer and old Metallica), sludge metal, progressive and post metal, and stuff like that....
That being said, "Heaven and Hell" and "Mob Rules" are average to me because they stopped sounding all slow, doped up, and fuzzy (classic Sabbath sound), and started sounding more like an average metal band.
|I should also add, like a lot of people, those first six Sabbath albums on the list are classic and among some of my favorite albums. The rest are just sorta "meh". I don't listen to them all too often, besides a few song here and there. |
|As long as Master of Reality is 1 that's all that matters.|
|I have no issue with MoR being at 1 but 4 should be higher IMO.|
If you like the slower, doomier Sabbath best you should definately check out Pentagram - Day of Reckoning or Be Forewarned.
|Paranoid = 1 |
|'because one could argue Alice in Chains was based around a lot of what Black Sabbath did.'|
They were. Quite a lot.
'"Heaven and Hell" and "Mob Rules" are average to me because they stopped sounding all slow, doped up, and fuzzy (classic Sabbath sound), and started sounding more like an average metal band.'
It seems from your comments that you don't like the more melodic, 'happier' type of metal, or what you referred to as 'average metal' here. It's all a matter of taste of course, but H&H is generally regarded as a (Sabbath) classic, though the only one outside their albums with Ozzy.
|first two are correct for the ozzy period. fucking great albums.|
heaven and hell owns them though
|Heaven and Hell should be no. 1. I have a soft spot for Born Again as well, so I'd have that and Mob Rules much higher. |
|Heaven and Hell should be no. 1.|
|You make some interesting points. Black Sabbath is my favourite band of all-time, and I've heard each and every one of their songs, so here's my list, just to contribute to the conversation:|
1. Vol. 4 - Many would find this to be an odd choice, but I think that everything here, most notably the incredible riffs, is absolutely top-notch. Definitely one of my favourite albums from any band. 'Wheels of Confusion', 'Snowblind', 'Supernaut', and especially 'Under the Sun' stand out.
2. Master of Reality - I have no problem with this being your top pick. Fantastic stuff here, all of which really gave the band their distinctive sound. 'Into the Void' is without a doubt the best track.
3. Sabotage - Agreed completely on how criminally underrated this masterpiece is. Amazing album with hardly any slow points. My favourites are 'Symptom of the Universe', 'Hole in the Sky', and 'The Writ'.
4. Dehumanizer - This is where I differ in opinion from most people. True, some of what's presented here is not exactly original, but for me, it all works so perfectly. Dio has never sounded better, and 'Computer God' has my favourite guitar solo of all-time.
5. Black Sabbath - A fantastic debut. Love the dark, gloomy atmosphere that's presented throughout the entirety of the album. I'd definitely say the title track reigns supreme over the rest.
6. Mob Rules - Another choice that many would disagree with, seeing as I prefer this over Heaven and Hell. Yes, that means that H&H is in fact my least my favourite Dio-era album (though it's still terrific). I find the songs here have some of the catchiest riffs ever conceived, and Dio sounds as great as always. The title track, 'Falling off the Edge of the World', 'Voodoo', and 'Country Girl' are all phenomenal.
7. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath - Amazing rock album. It's far different from many of the band's works, but I think that that makes it even more unique and satisfying. 'A National Acrobat' is probably my all-time favourite song.
|8. Heaven and Hell - The album that launched the Dio-era is innovative and exceptional, with some of
the band's best songwriting. The title track falls short only of 'Die Young'.
9. Paranoid - This is probably the most controversial part of my list. Don't get me wrong, I love
this album, I just find it to be horribly overrated. That being said, 'Hand of Doom', 'Electric
Funeral', 'Planet Caravan', and the title track are all masterpieces.
10. Tyr - Easily the best Tony Martin album. 'The Sabbath Stones' is stunning, with 'Odin's Court'
and 'Valhalla' being the other strongest tracks.
11. Never Say Die! - Stupid title aside, I don't understand the hate for this album. Yes, it doesn't
really sound anything like Sabbath, but if you take it for what it really is, a jazz-rock album, it
is really quite great. 'Air Dance', I find, is a particularly excellent song.
12. Born Again - Here's one that I love, but I can understand the hate for. To really appreciate
this album, one absolutely must listen to the demo tracks, and not the studio versions, as those
were butchered in recording. The demos sound much better, and with that in consideration,
'Disturbing the Priest', 'Zero the Hero', and the title track are great songs.
13. Headless Cross - One of the better Tony Martin albums. There's definitely a lot of really catchy
stuff here, such as the title track, 'When Death Calls', and 'Black Moon'.
14. Cross Purposes - Here's the first album I wouldn't call great, but still quite good. It's hard
to deny how awesome 'Cardinal Sin' and 'Immaculate Deception' are.
15. Seventh Star - Good enough, but far too forgettable. I do highly enjoy 'No Stranger to Love',
16. The Eternal Idol - Once again, aside from 'The Shining', this album is just plain forgettable. I
mean, it's decent, but certainly not memorable.
17. Technical Ecstasy - Without a doubt the worst Ozzy-era album. I still find enjoyment in such
songs as 'Dirty Women', and 'It's Alright', but outside of that, there's not very much to enjoy
18. Forbidden - Now this, I'll admit, is just atrocious. The only songs that I can tolerate are
'Guilty as Hell' and 'Rusty Angels'. The rest are just bad, if not terrible - aside from 'The
Illusion of Power'. That song is outright unacceptable.
So there's my opinion.|
|Yeah my friend, are cool in my book. I grew up on Sabbath, so yeah...awesome when I see fans who actually appreciate the good aspects of the band.|
|Who's going to read that?|
|Your list is good (sincere), here's my ranking|
1. Master of Reality, 2. Debut, Vol. 4, Sabotage, 3. Paranoid (I agree w/Mason that its overrated - the second half is underrated), 4. H&H, (HUGE GAP) 5. Technical Ecstasy, New Say Die (some songs rock, others suck), 6. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (boring, title track is overrated), 7. Haven't heard the rest *eye brows raise around Sputnik
|I learnt guitar by playing Iommi riffs and then moved onto Metallica and then Hendrix.|
My favourite Sabbath song is Planet Caravan, and I'm probably alone in that. I know that's not what they're about but I love that song.
|agree with your top 2|
|why isn't powerslave #1|
|I am with you on this Sloppymilkshake. Masters of Reality has the riffs through and through. Into the Void may be one of the heaviest songs ever written and the fact for the time period, it is amazing something could be this heavy. Lord of this World is my favorite Sabbath tune. Paranoid is great, but as someone stated, it is overrated. Electric Funeral and Hand of Doom, and the second half just kick ass though. Glad that you don't disrespect Heaven & Hell either, because eventhough it isn't an Ozzy record (like you said, it is better than the last couple Ozzy records), Dio does a superb job and it is killer album.|
|Yeah, while there are obviously "heavier" albums out there than Master of Reality, I think that tone just really epitomizes the "heavy metal" sound. Thick, sludgy, warm, and full of color. It's fucking beautiful. |