pwalcher: Bands That Put Tool To Shame

pwalcher 06.16.11	Come at me Sputnik
fr33convict 06.16.11	Cool story broseph
G3N3R1C 06.16.11	1 no 2 kk sure why not 3 is pretty much tool lite so no 4 no
MetallicOpeth 06.16.11	I have yet to check out 3, but the others are all awesome. I like them all AND Tool.
pwalcher 06.16.11	they're all progressive though (well only recent Karnivool is), my point is I can tolerate 10 mins songs from these guys, but 10 mins songs from Tool make me wanna bang my head against a wall.
Psychopathologist 06.16.11	pretty much every band thats at least decent destroys tool
porch 06.16.11	just stopped listening to tool, here are the other four bands i know
fsharptrit0ne 06.16.11	You know that all these bands are influenced by Tool in some way right...
MetallicOpeth 06.16.11	What is it exactly you don't like about Tool? I'm just curious because they're all really talented.
pwalcher 06.16.11	@fsharptrit0ne: oh yeah Tool are the pioneers, not arguing that @MetallicOpeth: boring pretty much. They have some great songs (Ex. Rosetta Stoned is insane and a select few others off each album) but that's it, can't stand their albums.
fsharptrit0ne 06.16.11	How can you not stand the crazy deranged metal circus that is Aenima? Meh..
pwalcher 06.16.11	I love metal, but it shouldn't be a chore to listen to an album and they all feel like a chore (Lateralus is probably the closest to not feeling like one, the rest are meh).
AngelofDeath 06.16.11	Tool's like the Radiohead of metal. Mainstream music listeners hear that shit and they're like "OMG! Best shit ever!" They're good, but there's plenty of stuff as good or better out there.
fsharptrit0ne 06.16.11	I love Tool but I still consider them overrated if it makes sense
TheJackal 06.16.11	being talented doesnt make a band good.
BigHans 06.16.11	TOOL destroys all of these snoozers
xenocide26 06.16.11	None of them is better than Tool imo. I really love Isis though.
BigHans 06.16.11	Im surprised he doesnt have Rishloo listed
Paradiso 06.16.11	I agree with AngelofDeath and pwalcher's last post. I want to like Tool more than I do... but after a couple songs I just lose interest. Karnivool is def my fav of these 4. Ian Kenny's voice ftw
AngelofDeath 06.16.11	Why? Porcupine Tree is like the one band on here that is actually better Tool.
jayfatha 06.16.11	I used to feel the same way about Tool, but just recently I started liking them alot more. I don't know why, it just all seems alot better than it used to.
pwalcher 06.16.11	for the record, I'm comparing Tool to "progressive" bands, it's not a contest of who's music makes listener's ears burst first @jayfatha: I really hope that happens to me, every album I've listened to was me giving them another chance and they always blow it
bringonthebreakdown 06.16.11	1-3 yeah
pwalcher 06.16.11	I like the radiohead point, that was well done!
G3N3R1C 06.16.11	I lold at BaselineOOO.
fsharptrit0ne 06.16.11	I like PT more than Tool too, but that's the only band on here that I can say that for. Isis comes close though
AngelofDeath 06.16.11	Isis are decent, but Neurosis has done everything they've done better.
G3N3R1C 06.16.11	btw Reflection isn't even close to being the best track on Lateralus lol
pwalcher 06.16.11	not "In fiction" detriment? I still need to get into neurosis, love what I've heard, will possibly add them here later.
pwalcher 06.16.11	there are at least 6 songs I liked better than "Reflection" on that album, "Ticks & Leeches" probably being the best
MetallicOpeth 06.16.11	Neurosis [3]
BloodSweatandBeers 06.16.11	OMG A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION!!
fsharptrit0ne 06.16.11	YOU LIE IN THE SNOWWWWWWWWWWW
Paradiso 06.16.11	for karnivool i'd offer up 'deadman' as a competitor to 'reflection'
pwalcher 06.16.11	that Karnivool song is legendary, especially when it transitions to Part 2, OMFG goosebumps every time
coleba 06.16.11	Tool is more talented, and has far better song composition, than all of these bands. Not sure why Isis would even be on here, other than the fact Maynard likes them. I love Karnivool, but the raw emotion isn't always there in their songs. Oceansize and Porcupine Tree are hit or miss, to be kind.
omnipanzer 06.16.11	I feel about Karnivool and Oceansize the way you feel about Tool (boring and not as good). Porcupine Tree I've been wanting to give a try and Isis I've had no interest in to this date. I can't agree with you. I do feel Karnivool (what I've heard) are Tool light and Oceansize I just can't get a bite from. I honestly can't see how you can like them but not Tool. I can absolutely see how people would prefer Tool to the two I've heard though.
AngelofDeath 06.16.11	I'd offer up every song Opeth or Neurosis have ever done as a competitor to "Reflection". And by "competitor" I mean obvious superior.
BigHans 06.16.11	Tool rules hard
pwalcher 06.16.11	@omnipanzer: you must like heavier progressive music, which is fine, I just find these other bands can entertain me for longer without me dozing off
fsharptrit0ne 06.16.11	Third Eye>Reflection ffs Aeon owns both though
ThirtySixChambers 06.16.11	I like all of these bands except Karnivool but none of them are better or sound that similar to Tool. They're all progressive I guess...
Hep Kat 06.16.11	tool sucks all these bands suck
BloodSweatandBeers 06.16.11	^ go listen to your indie, emo and hardcore pussy
Hep Kat 06.16.11	im only listening to surf punk jams faggot
porch 06.16.11	is baseline for real or just a parody of a tool fan
fsharptrit0ne 06.16.11	That's exactly how I feel. They were like destined to form a band.
Hep Kat 06.16.11	you people are ridiculous this is fucking TOOL derp
someguest 06.16.11	why are you talking about chode
omnipanzer 06.16.11	"Tool's like the Radiohead of metal. Mainstream music listeners hear that shit and they're like "OMG! Best shit ever!" They're good, but there's plenty of stuff as good or better out there." Tool was something very different than anything else on the radio at the time... Perhaps had I heard one of these other bands first (assuming they are good enough to get air play) I would feel differently. The only thing that can be proved is that in 1993 Tool was good enough. How you feel about my preferences on this subject is quite irrelevant.
acorncheese 06.16.11	dude fuck yeah, oceansize. was coming into this list expecting to have to bitch and moan about how they're not on the list
acorncheese 06.16.11	isis is too different to compare and i can't agree with karnivool
coleba 06.16.11	First off, with Karnivool, you can only really include Sound Awake in the discussion. Themata is enjoyable but it's basically a different genre. Now, Deadman, Changes Pt. 2, Goliath etc., are all near-masterpieces, but there's something about 'vool - maybe having read how fractured their writing is, and the vocalist having that lame indie pop band - that hurts their credibility a bit. Though if we're looking at side projects, Puscifier would disqualify every Tool song ever.
pwalcher 06.16.11	gasp Birds of Tokyo are amazing, leave them out of this!
iswimfast 06.16.11	I disagree with Karnivool being Tool lite at all. Sound Awake was a departure from Themata more towards the realm of progressive, but even now the new stuff they are playing for their next album sounds NOTHING like before. Tool has never attempted/tried to change their sound.
pwalcher 06.16.11	That's the one thing I like about Karnivool, you can never predict what they'll sound like in each album. How's "The Refusal", I've been looking everywhere for a live video but there aren't any and it's killing me.
coleba 06.16.11	Wait, new Karnivool? Link or it didn't happen.
fsharptrit0ne 06.16.11	Yea, they've been playing The Refusal live. Birds of Tokyo are pretty cool too.
pwalcher 06.16.11	They apparently only play it at live performances and are being anal about ppl putting it on youtube and stuff, but there's no way they can have a handle on every site, someone must have a vid somewhere
coleba 06.16.11	And it's 'different'? /veto different.
omnipanzer 06.16.11	"Tool has never attempted/tried to change their sound." Dumbest thing so far.
pwalcher 06.16.11	just reading about it, it's supposed to be very progressive with "weird time signatures".
pwalcher 06.16.11	@baseline: have you listened to their first self-title EP? When they started, they wanted to have that loud, crunchy rock sound and just make noise, it was terrible. Themata was completely different from that, it was hard rock but more controlled and smoother, and then with Sound Awake they turned into a progressive rock band. I would say they've had at least 3 different sounds throughout their lifespan as a band.
pwalcher 06.16.11	yeah somebody made a point earlier about tool not evolving, didn't agree with that, your explanation makes much more sense. Still need to hear Karnivool's new song, goddamn
iswimfast 06.16.11	@omni - They have never left the realm of progressive metal. Karnivool has been nu-metally noise rock, hard rock, and progressive alt rock in the course of three albums. Not saying Karnivool is "better" then tool or anything, just pointing this out.
beefshoes 06.16.11	I agree with 1. 1 is amazing but they are completely different bands.
kangaroopoo 06.16.11	All 4 bands + Tool are great.
Acanthus 06.16.11	4 yes, but that's kinda obvious. 2 is often over rated to me, never saw anything wonderful about them but I have not given them much of chance besides a passing listen.
DominionMM1 06.16.11	"Probably the only band in the world that's greater is Neurosis" 100% correct
AngelofDeath 06.16.11	@omni: I'm not trying to put Tool down, bro. I definitely think they deserve their radio play. They're a talented group, and I like 'em. The comparison with Radiohead was meant to convey that a lot of people get into them through the radio and fall in love with the group and just stop there when there are plenty of better acts out there to be discovered.
FearThyEvil9 06.16.11	Tool is my favorite band so putting them down is tough for me. Those bands are great but I still need to look further into Isis.
DominionMM1 06.16.11	^Isis is cool. Neurosis owns.
omnipanzer 06.16.11	@ AoD I feel personally attacked and on behalf of the Tools for Ever (T4E) fan club, we humped your mom!
FearThyEvil9 06.16.11	I have to say though I think Porcupine Tree definitely has the best drummer of all the groups discussed. Gavin Harrison is just a fucking machine.
DominionMM1 06.16.11	"humped" lol
AngelofDeath 06.16.11	I personally think Porcupine Tree in general is better than all the groups listed here (not discussed, because that would include Neurosis, and that's just no).
pwalcher 06.16.11	I consistently find myself thinking that Porcupine Tree songs are often too short, just listened to "My Ashes" and was like fuck why isn't this song double the length, it ends too quickly. They are so good.
pwalcher 06.16.11	haha every opinion of Neurosis is the same: "Those fuckin Isis fans don't know shit, Neurosis owns everything Isis have ever done or been...EVER!!!"
omnipanzer 06.16.11	This list has pushed Porcupine Tree to the top of my "need to listen to short list". I have aquired Deadwing, Fear of a Blank Planet and In Absentia and will be studying them closely.
DominionMM1 06.16.11	haha every opinion of Neurosis is the same: "Those fuckin Isis fans don't know shit, Neurosis owns everything Isis have ever done or been...EVER!!!" I'm not saying that exactly. Isis is awesome. (Well, some of their stuff is). But why eat hamburger when you can have steak?
Relinquished 06.16.11	just have a hamburger with steak as the meat, just have the cheese, lettuce, tomato, onions, pepper, etc. and french fries on the side. that's neurosis.
DiceMan 06.16.11	it's like tool was destined to play together
pwalcher 06.16.11	yeah i misspoke, Dominion's opinion is more what I meant: Isis is great, Neurosis is like Isis with balls - as DiceMan once mentioned on another list I made lol
Epilogue 06.16.11	Im sure in another four years, by the time you're 13 or so, you'll change this opinion.
omnipanzer 06.16.11	Man I am all of five songs in and I've gotta say... I can not in any way agree with you. This album is really boring to me. It makes me wish I was listening to pineapple thief. imo some of the lyrics are juvenile and it really just drags for me. In no way are they in Tools league. Are they bad no not by any stretch of the imagination but are they fit to be ranked higher than Tool? No, not in any way which is probably why they aren't.
pwalcher 06.16.11	which album omni?
omnipanzer 06.16.11	In Absentia
gaslightanthem 06.16.11	most bands make tool look bad tee hee but in a list of 4 you managed to pick three that dont, nice work
omnipanzer 06.16.11	I'm not trying to come off poorly. This is a good album and I'd probably give it a 3.5 (at this point) but there are so may other albums I'd rather be listening to right now... know what I mean?
Parallels 06.16.11	WTF Isis? Tool was never as good as them.
pwalcher 06.16.11	I know it's a bit late for that, but listen to "Deadwing" first, most fans of these bands would like that better, it has more metal and heavier guitars in it. Also, man you need to give it time too, I didn't like PT right off the bat. I've given each Tool album a few good listens and attempts. I get what you mean though, with Karnivool I had the same opinion, so many other bands I could listen to, but in a week it sunk in.
omnipanzer 06.16.11	Okay... I'll give it a try.
omnipanzer 06.16.11	first track, right off the bat.... waaaaay better.
pwalcher 06.16.11	not gonna lie that album is their best IMO although Sputnik would have you believe it's "In Absentia" but this eases you into them better than any of their other stuff. IA is good to listen to later.
omnipanzer 06.16.11	what next if my interest holds?
AngelofDeath 06.16.11	I would have told you to listen to Stupid Dream first.
pwalcher 06.16.11	probably IA, FOABP is good but just more of a return to their softer sound. I would listen to that last. I listened to it second and wasn't impressed, but now I love it on the third run through.
omnipanzer 06.16.11	this isn't bad but the lyrics are really stopping this from being a winner for me. That is really bad because lyrics aren't typically the most important thing for me. He just seems to throw in a lot of cliche shit. It really puts me in the mind of a harder jimmy eat world (which is a good thing). I honestly never would have thought to group the and Tool together. They sound nothing alike IMO. I really like this album but I still like "Someones Missing Here" more.
pwalcher 06.16.11	This list wasn't really to compare Tool to similar sounding bands, I'm just trying to prove that there are other progressive bands that can also write songs that are 10+ mins and keep your attention the whole time, and that Tool really isn't anything to write home about for me. It's funny though, my favorite band is Chevelle who are basically Tool if they had stuck to writing shorter mainstream length songs.
omnipanzer 06.16.11	I know you don't agree and that's cool but I firmly believe that Tool is at the top of the heap here.
omnipanzer 06.16.11	"my favorite band is Chevelle who are basically Tool if they had stuck to writing shorter mainstream length songs." Dude... fucking no! I was really giving you the benefit of the doubt but... I fucking hate Chevelle. God damn that sucks.
pwalcher 06.16.11	I know I know, Chevelle is not something most users here like haha but oh well, can't help it. Progressive rock/metal is what I've spent the last 6 months listening to though, I'm definitely getting into that now. Do you have a last.fm account btw? --- nvm answered my own question
omnipanzer 06.16.11	just click my username bro ;^) I think that's where you're going with the answered your own question statement though.
omnipanzer 06.16.11	The downside is my last FM isn't very old as I've only been scrobling for about 3 weeks =^(
pwalcher 06.16.11	lol top band you;ve listened to 184 times...ccuuuuuuuttttteee yeah if you hadn't have told me that I would've been confused
UnnamedOcean 06.16.11	Whoa we have the same opinions, pwalcher :)
omnipanzer 06.16.11	=^)
pwalcher 06.16.11	Which part Unnamed? That Tool is overrated and boring or that Neurosis has balls?
pwalcher 06.16.11	I only found out neurosis had balls earlier today I wasn't aware of this. Thanks Sputnik!
UnnamedOcean 06.16.11	I realize that Tool are talented musicians, but I do think they are very overrated. I can't really explain just why, but their style just pisses me off. I always picture trashy guys driving pickup trucks listening to Tool.
UnnamedOcean 06.16.11	I find Karnivool and Oceansize to be a lot more interesting and melodic.
qwe3 06.16.11	porcupine tree? hahahahahahahahahahahaha
pwalcher 06.16.11	Yeah Unnamed, Tool is one of those bands I should have no problem liking but listening to them makes me feel the same as when I get asked to pick up dry cleaning by my parents. The other big band I should like but don't is Underoath, but I don't feel nearly as strongly about them as Tool.
Emim 06.16.11	All these bands -minus Karnivool (haven't heard them)- are good, including Tool. Porcupine Tree is godly.
qwe3 06.16.11	porcupine tree sucks
pwalcher 06.16.11	I can't tell if qwe is laughing cuz he hates Porcupine Tree or just the name of the band in general lol cuz I definitely laughed at that the first time I heard them. They are insane though. - nvm you commented before I could : ( that's very disheartening to hear
omnipanzer 06.16.11	qwe3 has been around. it's probably the band.
Ire 06.16.11	tool is better than isis WHOALOLA
flalafell 06.16.11	to be fair tool isn't very good
Emim 06.16.11	Porcupine Tree in fact does not suck. Don't make me come over there.
omnipanzer 06.16.11	falafel, Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
omnipanzer 06.16.11	piss off emim... really. Not so great , just sit down.
Emim 06.16.11	How about no.
climactic 06.16.11	porc tree ranges from terrible to decent
Emim 06.16.11	Damnit Tahan.
omnipanzer 06.16.11	=^)
Emim 06.16.11	That smiley face reminded me of Hey Arnold! for some reason.
mast3rshake16 06.16.11	meh this is dumb.. all these bands are quite different from tool, so im going to break it down for you A) porcupine tree is wildly inconsistent, songs are either really good or fucking terrible B) oceansize.. kind of the opposite, songs seem either pretty decent or meh C) karnivool.. just listened to them for the first time on the track "deadman".. are you fucking kidding me? these guys blow donkey dick.. they sound like a "progressive" (whats progressive about this other than the endless and pointless noodling) version of nickelback. fuck right off man d) Isis are great but play a completely different genre of music (i saw tool and isis play together in 06) sorry neurosis fans,I understand that they took a lot of elements from their sound.. but ISIS does it better, and neurosis hasnt come close to releasing anything as good as oceanic and panopticon E) how you are a member on this website and dont listen to opeth is a fucking joke, go get blackwater park and shut the fuck up F) I honestly dont even listen to Tool all that much anymore, but show me a "progressive" or heavy band that was putting out stuff as good as anything on Aenima IN FUCKING 1996... cool, you found progressive bands that are different than tool and more listenable.. well newsflash dickcheese if it werent for Tool these bands wouldnt of even had careers. They were the first heavy progressive band (by todays standards of heavy) to combine great instruments, vocals, and songwriting... Show me something from oceansize or karnivool that matches the raw intensity of Aenima, the atmosphere of disposition/reflection, the vocal performances on ANY tool song, or the emotional and intelligent lyrics in H., Opiate (written in fucking 1992), and sober. Enlighten me please.
mast3rshake16 06.16.11	Point is none of these bands put tool "to shame". I listen to Isis more often but they play post-rock infused metal while tool plays hardrock with "progressive" (in the 1970's sense) elements with metal sprinkled in. And this baseline kid is just your typical dimwitted Tool fan.. its quite ironic since the biggest "message" per say that Tool preaches is to be openminded. but most of them are just dumb sheep who blindly follow and adore anything they put out. 10,000 days had its moments but it was weak. If you cant accept that you are an idiot and one of the people who wears tool shirts at the concerts all the time, has terrible personal hygeine, and is the target of maynard's bahhhinggg like a sheep during concerts. Im not trying to be an elitist, im just not a retard.
pwalcher 06.17.11	whew that was quite a read, dude your opinion of porcupine tree is a joke..."inconsistent"? They're a band that experiment in both softer progressive rock and metal every so often so sometimes you get standard piano-infused bliss like "Arriving Somewhere But Not Here" and sometimes you get songs like "Shallow" which are heavier and shorter tracks. You clearly only like one of those two sounds they have and that's why you consider them inconsistent. Also...I'm planning on listening to Opeth, thank you for the album rec, I'll start there
pwalcher 06.17.11	Everything else you said is understandable I guess, but holy fuck you really just listened to "Deadman" and....nothing? Nothing at all? Wow
qwe3 06.17.11	oceansize write great music idk what this shake dudes talking about and isis blows pretty much.
Emim 06.17.11	thank you mastershake for setting me straight
pwalcher 06.17.11	qwe qwe
pwalcher 06.17.11	I feel like if I answer shakes with good songs from these bands, I'll simply be regurgitating exactly what has been debated on this list...
qwe3 06.17.11	porcupine tree really does suck though. like have you heard deadwing? fuck that sucks
pwalcher 06.17.11	wha???? that's my favorite album from them, iunno man which album did you like better? - Fear of a "Qwe"eer Planet?
Emim 06.17.11	damnit, qwe, I love that album :(
qwe3 06.17.11	the sky moves sideways is prob their best, it rules. idk porc tree basically became terrible after in absentia. deadwing, foabp and incident are so bad
Emim 06.17.11	Where did you try it?
iswimfast 06.17.11	"Deadman" is like... the best song ever. Not really, but it's FANTASTIC.
Wolfhorde 06.17.11	Wow, this is ridiculous.
someguest 06.17.11	porcupine tree bores sometimes, karnivool bores sometimes, tool bores once in awhile isis and oceansize both suck my enormous penis
Ahmad498 06.17.11	Karnivool? Seriously?
AnotherBrick 06.17.11	i dont get why people always compare bands
Ire 06.17.11	tool is pretty cool
rasputin 06.17.11	lol all four of those bands suck really hard
cb123 06.17.11	all 5 bands are great...those referring to karnivool as the nickelback of progressive rock are fucking stupid
tiesthatbind 06.17.11	Haven't listened to Isis but otherwise I completely agree with this list.
eggsvonsatan 06.17.11	I've listened to all of these bands extensively, except Karnivool who I dont like. I can honestly say that Tool destroys them all in so many ways.
eggsvonsatan 06.17.11	Just one listen to Third Eye or Lateralus and the list is really laughable.
ScrotieMcBoogerballs 06.17.11	The poop destroys the pee, but in some instances the pee must be peed in order to destroy the poop.
PedalToTheMetal 06.17.11	i agree completely
Puzzles 06.17.11	Karnivool are easily more instrumentally talented than Tool in all facets of their music. Drums, Guitar and especially Bass - vocally, I think Kenny just misses Maynard imo. Still, I would take Sound Awake over Lateralus any day.
Skweetis 06.17.11	Sorry, but Danny Carey destroys Karnivool in the drumming department, and all the other bands as well.
Skweetis 06.17.11	If King Crimson was on this list then maybe.
Benwx 06.17.11	Wow.. so many posts on this topic. I must join in. Karnivool + Isis >> Tool. Oceansize has gone a bit meh for me lately.. All great bands though!
MetallicOpeth 06.17.11	Yea Tool is better than all these bands. They're all decent bands for sure, but Tool are on a whole other level.
coleba 06.17.11	People on Sputnik that laugh at Tool's pretentiousness seem to forget that Tool is laughing even harder at their fans. P.S. - Rosetta > Isis. P.S.S. - Still lol'ing at comparing Carey to any of these drummers. Maybe if Gospel was on the list. Maybe.
omnipanzer 06.17.11	^ @MO agreed, I gave the other bands (minus Isis) a try and for me I can see liking the other bands if I were in the mood for them but I'm never not in the mood for some Tool.
Meatplow 06.17.11	lame list Tool is a great band.
MetallicOpeth 06.17.11	Totally omni. I also find it incredible how loyal the band's following is. One list posted about Tool always seems to garner 100-200+ comments. If a list was made called "Bands that put (any of the above 4) to shame" it'd get maybe 50 comments. I think that's a testament to how much people love Tool.
omnipanzer 06.17.11	Good call MO
coleba 06.17.11	When I first heard Tool as a teenager, it changed the way I thought about "rock" music. I had never heard anything like it, which isn't to say other unique bands I didn't have access to weren't also pushing the envelope, but to say I was intrigued is a huge understatement. The fact that I've never once tired of Aenima since, says a lot.
DominionMM1 06.17.11	sorry neurosis fans,I understand that they took a lot of elements from their sound.. but ISIS does it better, and neurosis hasnt come close to releasing anything as good as oceanic and panopticon I stopped reading rant after this.
Relinquished 06.17.11	Neurosis >>>>>> Isis/Tool > every other faggot band mentioned in this thread
MetallicOpeth 06.17.11	Neurosis is like Isis with balls [2]
Relinquished 06.17.11	Isis and Tool have their own sound and merits as bands but Neurosis is four dimensions higher
benkim 06.17.11	All those bands are amazing but none of them beat Tool. However, Isis record Panopticon is much better than anything Tool have released.
omnipanzer 06.17.11	^ I disagree sir.
fsharptrit0ne 06.17.11	can't believe this discussion is still going
pwalcher 06.17.11	"The poop destroys the pee, but in some instances the pee must be peed in order to destroy the poop." This changed the way I thought about everything in life.
ScrotieMcBoogerballs 06.17.11	The pee was there as the poop lurked in the shadows knowing that the pee would puddle.
MarvellousG 06.17.11	I love all 4 bands. Tool are better than all of them imo. By a lot.
ffs 06.17.11	bands that put tool to shame: all of bands in world. heh. peace.
MarvellousG 06.17.11	ITT: Tool fans act in a stereotypically defensive manner in the face of equally aggressive allegations that their favourite band are inferior to any others. The point, I don't see it.
mast3rshake16 06.17.11	Give me an entire album by neurosis to check out.. cause the bits and pieces ive heard have never matched the level of anything on Panopticon Listened to karnivool more, these guys are not good. Sorry. Please, someone explain what is "good" about them other than they are good at their instruments. The lyrics/vocals suck dick, the song writing is all over the place, and its all been done before - and done better. And I mean porcupine tree is inconsistent in that they have some amazing songs (of many different sounds), but I cant think of a single album that I don't hit the skip button at least once or twice
tarkus 06.17.11	"I cant think of a single album that I don't hit the skip button at least once or twice" You hit the skip button once or twice on fear of a blank planet? I am dissapoint.
MarvellousG 06.17.11	I still think PT are amazing, it's just that I much prefer Tool. Karnivool are basically a poor man's Tool, and whilst Oceansize are great, they are, once again, not as great as Tool. Imo.
DominionMM1 06.17.11	Give me an entire album by neurosis to check out Any one of them.
qwe3 06.17.11	neurosis is so much better than isis its not even a contest
Benwx 06.17.11	this is what makes music so cool. everyone has different opinions on what is good.
qwe3 06.17.11	what makes music cool is the good music like neurosis
ShadowRemains 06.17.11	to the....
climactic 06.18.11	mastershake went so tryhard
Emim 06.18.11	Neuroisis
Maniac! 06.18.11	This list is still going?
Apollo 06.18.11	my milkshake brings all the booiz to tha yard, damn right its better than yours
fr33convict 06.18.11	ITT: really bad trolling and pathetic fanboyism.
DominionMM1 06.18.11	This list is still going? Of course. Neurosis is an automatic list extender. (And yes, I'm a Neurosis fanman).
Benwx 06.18.11	surprised there has been no opeth spams (yet). at least neurosis is something kinda new in these kind of lists
tarkus 06.18.11	come to think of it, opeth does beat tool. havent thought of that yet. My opinion.
Ssssssss 06.18.11	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FokW-TE8wk
mariothehedgehog 06.18.11	quit bumping this gay list
tarkus 06.18.11	no one's making you click on it.
Ssssssss 06.18.11	lol he bumped the list himself
tarkus 06.18.11	seems like a sonictheplumber alt because he just joined today and his username is the opposite of sonictheplumber and he commented on rush just a second ago.
mariothehedgehog 06.18.11	lol
foreverendeared 06.18.11	did you fuck him?