Puzzles
05.20.12 | Do you? |
Puzzles
05.20.12 | I can't even tell if you're joking because you're such a goddamn clown. |
Wolfhorde
05.20.12 | "never tried to sell an image"
Are you kidding? Maynard is definitely going for an image. |
Puzzles
05.20.12 | How do you sell an image if you don't let people interview you, take pictures of you or film your shit? Of course he had an
image, he just never tried to sell it en masse. |
jefflebowski
05.20.12 | i always thought that tool were looked down on by critics somewhat |
Ovrot
05.20.12 | Image salesmen |
Puzzles
05.20.12 | That's funny; I thought they were every critic's darling child. |
MichaelSnoxall
05.20.12 | Tool are successful because they're a damn good band, all the while remaining wholly accessible, yet unique. A rare feat. |
Wolfhorde
05.20.12 | Maynard was or still is an actor, he played Satan, he played a cop and he did let people interview him. Idk where you got that info from. |
jefflebowski
05.20.12 | yeah, lateralus has 75, which is OK but nothing special. 10,000 days has 68 which isn't very good |
Puzzles
05.20.12 | In more recent years, sure, but so far I've only found 1 pro shot video of Tool ever released (lots of bootlegs though). I've only come across 3 video interviews taken in the 90s. Considering Undertow came out in '93, that's not a lot. |
faux
05.20.12 | A large, moronic fanbase who will eat up whatever they release
They're the kind of band children graduate to after really getting into the philosophy behind The Matrix |
Wolfhorde
05.20.12 | So what? That doesn't mean they're not going for an image. This whole alien, pseudo sci-fi spooky whatever bullshit probably wasn't bad for their publicity. Especially if they rarely ever issue any official statements.
"A large, moronic fanbase who will eat up whatever they release"
Wow, great. You just described the "fanboy/girl" phenomenon in general. |
MichaelSnoxall
05.20.12 | Well, the only acting I've known Maynard to do was a small cameo in Crank 2. He doesn't interview much and when he did, he usually got Danny or another bandmate to speak for the most part. The only time he's really come out of his shell and into his surprising element is with his doco Blood Into Wine. Recommended film, Maynard is actually hilarious. |
jefflebowski
05.20.12 | 'They're the kind of band children graduate to after really getting into the philosophy behind The Matrix'
bit harsh, but yeah p much |
MichaelSnoxall
05.20.12 | Not everybody listens to Tool because they think it makes them smart, Faux. I love Tool because of their music, because it sounds good. I don't care about pleading the pseudo-intelligence claim I seem to see haters always bringing up, but never hearing an actual fan talk about. |
MichaelSnoxall
05.20.12 | Don't good bands make music for themselves? |
Wolfhorde
05.20.12 | Still, just because they don't give a lot of interviews doesn't man they're not going for an image or at least using the controversy to their advantage. |
Dimor
05.20.12 | @Faux Such an idiotic statement so say that Tool fans devour anything they put out. Tool is a truly great group of musicians and i highly doubt they would put out anything less than interesting, but if their next album is total shit then i would definitely stick to that opinion instead of tricking myself into liking it. |
MichaelSnoxall
05.20.12 | I love de emoshunulz tool more dan da funny immature tool |
Dimor
05.20.12 | Then don't do it, stupid clownshoes |
Dimor
05.20.12 | Too bad Deuce is such a shit band. And if this is one of Fades alts then just gtfo already. |
Puzzles
05.20.12 | So nobody has any theories as to why they're successful despite all of the things they have going against them? |
MichaelSnoxall
05.20.12 | I quote myself, "Tool are successful because they're a damn good band, all the while remaining wholly accessible, yet unique. A rare feat." |
Dimor
05.20.12 | I believe the sort of mysticism about them made them interesting tbh. Anything out of the ordinary has potential to make most people somehow intrigued |
MichaelSnoxall
05.20.12 | There's no secret as to why any band is successful. The band makes music, they garner a fan base, they become a success. It's as simple as people saying 'I like this, I'll listen to it'
There's no 'secret,' stop making the world so convoluted. |
Dimor
05.20.12 | And ofc as Michael says, they are damn exceptional musicians to begin with. |
Wolfhorde
05.20.12 | Dimor basically summed what I was trying to say, so yeah. What he said. |
MichaelSnoxall
05.20.12 | People like some bands more than others, there's not much to understand. |
SitarHero
05.20.12 | Tool has made several, and highly acclaimed, music videos. They're not mainstream in the sense that they are trying to write crossover pop hits, but they have cultivated a large fanbase of people who appreciate their music and/or MJK's lyrics. Not EVERYONE listens to music because of the pretty boy frontman in the video you know. If that were the case, Bob Dylan would have ZERO fans. |
wabbit
05.20.12 | It's a simple/ easily accessible band that has a aura of faux-complexity that gets 14 year old guys with no friends a feeling of superiority and a hard dick.
It's the exact same as Radiohead but for ugly people |
Owantjaaaa
05.20.12 | It's only logical, without tools we wouldn't be able to build things |
scissorlocked
05.20.12 | Tool is maybe the band that played the media game with the best way possible
they simply created a name around them just by setting the bait always at the right time. They created anticipation, they surrounded themselves with intentional mystery, they spoke a little about them and their songs, so everyone had to "construct" his own Tool profile step by step through a personal trial that includes hours of listening, checking themes and obscure lyrics, searching at sites for answers and participating in endless conversations about fibbonacci sequenced drum parts and lsd inspired visions. This whole thing is proved to be fertile and somehow addictive- everyone's interpreting the whole cosmos through Tool's art and feels that it reflects millions of different aspects leading to a mystical artistic vision. Together with some indisputable songwriting skills, it is probably the best way psychedelic music can interact with the listener without drug addictions. Tool are smart. |
Spec
05.20.12 | Band rules. |
YoYoMancuso
05.20.12 | as for 3 i think stinkfist was pretty accessible, but other than that spot-on bro. |
Hyperion1001
05.20.12 | its called promotion and the only reason bands are ever popular you should look into it |
InFiction
05.20.12 | I like Tool as much as the next guy, but I think they're hideously overrated. |
Kellerdeck
05.20.12 | To be Keenan you have to be a douche. |
Foaming
05.20.12 | They're talented.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyDWYHGCRYY
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AtomicWaste
05.20.12 | It's the Fibonacci Sequence. That's the secret to their success. |
Foaming
05.20.12 | @ InFiction So is Isis, what's your point? |
paxman
05.20.12 | Good list |
LifeAsAChipmunk
05.20.12 | Baseline, that's not really fair when you yourself don't have a lot of ratings. : ) |
paxman
05.20.12 | Don't worry, all of those are pretty legitimate fives |
bloc
05.20.12 | Never understood their appeal |
YankeeDudel
05.20.12 | Tool came up around the grunge/alternative explosion. They were able to capitalize on fans of Nirvana, AIC, Soundgarden, Faith No More, Rage Against The Machine etc. Again Tool had some hooks that played towards the alternative crowd, but clearly stood out with their progressive elements. Its pretty clear to me. All a band needs is one or two hits to cement themselves. |
PuddlesPuddles
05.20.12 | Body slam each fan that comes your way |
ChuckyTruant
05.20.12 | they have no secret. they aren't good |
TheFonz123
05.20.12 | I don't know if i agree, they have an active gimmick going on, and I think that's part of it. They also incorporate classic 70's prog which the mainstream likes. Nu-metal was HUGE when they came out, and their distoration/angst really fed off that success even if they weren't "NU" |
TheFonz123
05.20.12 | I hate their music, and their gimmick but I respect them as musicians and so music fenatics always love it when a band incorporates odd time signatures and poly-rythms etc etc. The biggest tool hater in the world has to marvel at danney carey's playing so there's that |
Puzzles
05.21.12 | "they have no secret. they aren't good"
One of the dumbest things I've ever read on this site. |
Dimor
05.21.12 | ^Yep, that comment doesn't make any type of sense whatsoever. Chuck can only accept the Methulchoreez, nothing else is Hc enough. |
ChuckyTruant
05.21.12 | boring. and stfu Dimor you don't know me |