andcas: Is Image Important?

andcas 04.11.11	also can a bands image control the music they make in some cases.
TomArnoldsArmpit 04.11.11	Shut up?
andcas 04.11.11	shoot up tom.
BallsToTheWall 04.11.11	No. And if it did I porbaly wouldn't be fist pumping to that Jeffree Star song.
psykonaut 04.11.11	ehh, it depends. there are some artists/bands that make their image important because they're theatrical or trying to make a statement and such. then there are some artists where the music speaks for itself and nobody gives the slightest fuck what they look like. you dig?
PayneTiger777 04.11.11	Not really. The Birthday Massacre looks like a bunch of gothic, emo, I'm gonna slit my wrist kinda people, but I love them oh so much.
HugCrewLoveRoll 04.11.11	If Hayley Williams wasn't hot, I wouldn't listen to Paramore.
ButcheredChildren 04.11.11	No, although I dig the shit out of Gorgoroth's stage setup.
Hep Kat 04.11.11	what psykonaut said more or less
kingjulian 04.11.11	Depends. If I knew nothing about A7X and I saw a picture of them I would immediately know not to listen to them. I've always had the (loose) philosophy that the best bands look like real people. My two faves are Radiohead and Thrice and they totally fit that bill. Of course they're on the trendier side but all in all they just look like real people.
Dreamflight 04.11.11	Never really cared about band's image. Although it's quite funny too see how people react to shocking acts.
kingjulian 04.11.11	Perfect example: if you knew nothing about Hollywood Undead but saw that stupid ad at the top of the page would you have the slightest reason to think they're a remotely legitimate band?
Deviant. 04.11.11	"Perfect example: if you knew nothing about Hollywood Undead but saw that stupid ad at the top of the page would you have the slightest reason to think they're a remotely legitimate band?" That's a retarded example. Define "legitimate band"
musicConsumer 04.11.11	Define retarded example.
bloc 04.11.11	Hell, I listen to industrial. That says it all.
Motiv3 04.11.11	i dont think most ppl here really give a fuck what they look like relative to how the music sounds.
thunder15 04.11.11	Perfect example: if you knew nothing about Hollywood Undead but saw that stupid ad at the top of the page would you have the slightest reason to think they're remotely a band without masks?
andcas 04.11.11	I ask because i've heard countless times "oh that band looks gay, I'm not even gonna bother checking them out to see if they might actually be good." the albums I picked are all decent from bands who dress out of the norm.
Deviant. 04.11.11	"Define retarded example." ^You nailed it pretty well
bloc 04.11.11	"I ask because i've heard countless times "oh that band looks gay, I'm not even gonna bother checking them out to see if they might actually be good."" Their loss
dreamobile 04.11.11	there has to be a certain amount of flannel on stage for me to care about a band.
FromDaHood 04.11.11	Don't really listen to straightedge bands because they're too preachy and make me feel bad about myself; I guess it does a little bit.
kingjulian 04.11.11	"legitimate band" being a band worth listening to. Jeez.
fr33convict 04.11.11	I don't care but I know that from my experience the labels I've talked to they definitely seem to care.
Aids 04.11.11	yes, kind of. some bands can be good enough to transcend their stupid image though.
accompliceofmydeath 04.11.11	I guess I'm guilty of prejudging a band if they look a certain way, but I'll still check them out.
andcas 04.11.11	I remember when a lot of people seemed to shy away from AFI when they started changing their image drastically.
Deviant. 04.11.11	""legitimate band" being a band worth listening to. Jeez." Pretty sure legitimate band simply means they're a group of artists who release music. Whether or not you or anyone else doesn't like them doesn't make them any less "legitimate". Your praise for a band is not a requirement for legitimacy
climactic 04.11.11	not at all. but bands that try too hard piss me off i.e. behemoth
Josh D. 04.11.11	To me, it isn't important. But if a band isn't good, and they look ridiculous on top of it, it makes it worse for me i.e. Avenged Sevenfold.
kingjulian 04.11.11	ok you may be reading a little too far into this...
HaydenDyson 04.11.11	to me it does
MalleusMaleficarum 04.11.11	"I remember when a lot of people seemed to shy away from AFI when they started changing their image drastically." implying that their music didn't change too
Hyperion1001 04.11.11	I think an image can enhance the music in some respects, notably the live setting, but good music is good music, regardless of what they look like.
andcas 04.11.11	"implying that their music didn't change too" it did but it was still good while their image changed.
LegendofPittman 04.11.11	Looks don't effect the music to me at all.
wabbit 04.11.11	Shitty bands look god awful so kinda. Like A7X or hollywood undead look like you expect them to sound.
savagecabbage 04.11.11	The only way to truly appreciate music is to see what clothes the band is wearing. Music was meant to be perceived by sight. Everyone knows that.
MalleusMaleficarum 04.12.11	"it did but it was still good while their image changed." Is that something you can prove or is it just an immature and subjective statement?
Satellite 04.12.11	what rabbit said. most of my favorite bands are full of paunchy dudes with beards.
Chrisjon89 04.12.11	I think in popular music image is nearly as important as the music itself. In more obscure music image is a complete non-factor, like there are some musicians/bands where fans of their music wouldn't recognise them. But certainly in pop. That's why alot of modern pop artists with any longevity need to constantly reinvent themselves, in terms of their look and their sound. When people tell me Lady Gaga's music is so weird I think alot of that has to do with her image cos musically that doesn't sound out there to me at all. It's a bit less rigid in hip hop, punk, metal and indie but there's still a stereotypical image for all those.
andcas 04.12.11	the material from shut your mouth and open your eyes to sing the sorrow speaks for itself. that's when their image tremendously changed the most.
qwe3 04.12.11	"ok you may be reading a little too far into this... " well if you define "too far" as "just far enough to show you your point is stupid" then yes
kingjulian 04.12.11	ugh you people are impossible. Legitimate band as in "hey, that band's legit," meaning "hey, that band's good at what they do." Looking at the Hollywood Undead ad I'm probably not going to be inclined to say "dood, they look like they make legit music."
Puzzles 04.14.11	Picture Kiss wearing T-Shirts and jeans on stage. How many people do you think would be in the audience?
andcas 04.14.11	not sure. did their stint with no make up go well once upon a time? I can't remember.
Pharoh 08.04.11	"Picture Kiss wearing T-Shirts and jeans on stage. How many people do you think would be in the audience?" 6, and that includes family
MaskAtTheMasquerade 08.04.11	if a band looks like queers then i'll be like fuck these guys not listening
ThirtySixChambers 08.04.11	cephalic carnage are sexy that's why i listen to them
Wolfhorde 08.04.11	Duh, people stop kicking the dead horse.
Masochist 08.04.11	Someone else already brought up the point that some bands make their image matter. KISS is a good example Puzzles brought up--their image, the way they look, the lifestyle they lead, is a huge factor in what they do. Some bands are huge because they look like rock stars. But in cases when the band themselves don't specifically make the way they look an integral part of their act, my opinion is more in line with Josh's: "To me, it isn't important. But if a band isn't good, and they look ridiculous on top of it, it makes it worse for me"
Masochist 08.04.11	Old list. Damn.
taxidermist 08.04.11	Lol. Nice avatar pic, andcas.
foreverendeared 08.04.11	No one would go see GWAR live if they didn't dress up in ridiculous outfits and do crazy shit, but they are an extreme example.
mahan9792 08.04.11	no one bothers except BVB. they're just gay.
quartermil 08.04.11	yes, especially in pop/rap. gotta have some swag!
GnarlyShillelagh 08.04.11	Design the Skyline
quartermil 08.04.11	when i see scene kids dressed up like fags and describing their music as death metal i expect the worst.
Hyperbore 08.04.11	Depends. Some (most) bands aim to make the musical equivalent of getting drunk or watching a movie about people in love. It's just a way to pass the time. Obviously image isn't going to be a huge factor here, although it would be counterintuitive to present yourself in a way that challenges social norms if your music is all about embracing them. In the same way, it's only logical that music which isn't about that to be made by people who present themselves differently. If a death metal band is made up of guys in drag, they're obviously doing it as a gimmick so fuck them.
AliW1993 08.04.11	As a rule, no. Some people, for example, say that much of The Sex Pistols acclaim was due to their image, but I love them because I think they wrote great songs, I couldn't care less that they pioneered the whole punk look. However, image can be a useful thing to draw on in some cases. For example if a band is really really bad and has a fairly extreme or ridiculous image it provides another corner from which you can lay into them. Eg, Black Veil Brides.
Hyperion1001 08.04.11	Sometimes i think a bands image can get in the way of the music, but most of the time no, who cares.
Relinquished 08.04.11	without their image, mudvayne got worse
Trebor17 08.04.11	A band's image can make me not want to listen to them
eternium 08.04.11	The way someone dresses and looks does often reflect their personality, this is a general truth, but the music itself is what matters.
Banion 08.04.11	I never see the way a band looks intill after I've been listening to them long enough to like them enough to look up what they actually look like. So no, not to me.
Vesper 08.04.11	Seriously, guys, don't be dishonest and say you don't care about a band's image when you guys throw around homophobic slurs at scene bands on here all the time. I usually don't care to look up what bands look like (metal bands aren't usually worth looking at, anyway, hah), but there is still a certain expectation of what a band would look like based on their sound, even the "normal" looking ones (as in, I'd totally expect Thom Yorke to wear T-shirts and shit). Image probably isn't as big an issue with increasingly digitalized music, but it was certainly a huge selling point, combined with the aesthetics of album packaging.
Hyperion1001 08.04.11	But you see, with bands like the shitty scene bands, the bad music is more or less a reflection of the bad image and vice versa.
Trebor17 08.04.11	Bands with shitty music usually have a shitty image