BigHans: Pac Vs Biggie - Hans Breaks It Down

BigHans 12.21.11	and still I see no changes, can a brotha get a little PEACE?
MetallicOpeth 12.21.11	Nice this is a tough comparison, I liked both, stupid gangster shit killed 2 greats.
Crysis 12.21.11	I'm no authority in any way on this but I think Biggie is better.
MetallicOpeth 12.21.11	^ that's generally the consensus
jayfatha 12.21.11	I got the cleanest meanest penis
BallsToTheWall 12.21.11	Blame it on my momma I'm a thug nigga Up befo' the sun rise, quicker than the drug dealers Tell me if it's on, nigga then we first to bomb Bust on these bitch-made niggaz hit 'em up, WESTSIDE
BigHans 12.21.11	YOU NEVER SEEN THIS STROKIN GENIUS
BallsToTheWall 12.21.11	I haven't listened to much of either but Still Ballin and Thug Mansion are some of my favorite songs of all time.
BigHans 12.21.11	Sex gettin rougher when it comes to the nut busta, pussy crusha, black nasty mothafucka
BigHans 12.21.11	Still Ballin owns
BigHans 12.21.11	I used to get feels on the bitch now I throw shields on the dick to stop me from this HIV shit
sumyunguy 12.21.11	you should do another hip hop throwdown between a tribe called quest and de la soul sometime
EyesWideShut 12.21.11	BIGGIE .. hit ya, back split ya Fuck fist fights and lame scuffles Pillow case to your face, make the shell muffle Shoot your daughter in the calf muscle Fuck a tussle, nickel-plated Sprinkle coke on the floor, make it drug-related Most hated..
BigHans 12.21.11	you should do another hip hop throwdown between a tribe called quest and de la soul sometime ^ Im not a big enough fan of either to do it, dont know enough about them. Roots vs Outkast or Roots vs Cunninlynguists might be cool.
jayfatha 12.21.11	"I fucked your bitch, you fat motherfucker" -Tupac
taxidermist 12.21.11	I like both of them, but I'd have to go with Pac. Listened to a lot of Pac when I was a kid. Also, CALIFORNIA LOOOOOOOOVE.
omnipanzer 12.21.11	nice rundown Hans.
FrankRedHot 12.21.11	I've found that this argument isn't easily settled. Both rappers had different styles, flows, beats, etc etc. The thing that grabs me about Big is the fact that he was a storyteller. Pac was a great poet, and marketed himself better than Biggie(which might be the reason why Pac is more iconic), but everything about Biggie seemed to be honest, while Pac seemed to be more of a marketing ploy for Death Row. I'm tired, so I don't even know if that made any sense.
BigHans 12.21.11	makes sense Pit. Basically it comes down to the fact Biggie was a better rapper, Pac was a bigger force.
Hawks 12.21.11	Overall I'd say I like Pac more, but Ready to Die would be my favorite out of anything I've heard from both of them. I just kinda like Pac's style more, although Biggie did have a flow that is only rivaled by Big L or maybe Big Pun, at least from what I've heard.
Tyrael 12.21.11	You're right Wait, Hans is right? The end of the world must be nigh
Scoot 12.21.11	jay-z vs. nas will be interesting
FrankRedHot 12.21.11	Pac was a bigger force mostly because he released more than two albums. People forget that Biggie only released 2.
Scoot 12.21.11	but who's to say that biggie wouldn't have went down the same path to obscurity that nas went down? he was certainly on his way with life after death having a more club-oriented feel, which is what nas ended up doing. i like bigs better btw
FrankRedHot 12.21.11	Nas is obscure? Since when?
Scoot 12.21.11	he was, for a few albums. after i am... and nostradamus he was pretty much the laughingstock of the hip hop world until stillmatic came out.
FrankRedHot 12.21.11	Ummmmm....... no?
Scoot 12.21.11	perhaps obscure was a poor word choice.
FrankRedHot 12.21.11	I mean, I'm not debating that Nas fell off for a few albums after It Was Written, but he was still one of the biggest names in hip hop during that time. I remember Hate Me Now being on MTV(yes MTV used to actually play music videos) at least 3 times every hour.
Scoot 12.21.11	i was talking more about with his peers than with the mainstream tv markets.
FrankRedHot 12.21.11	Dude, Nas was still getting respect from his peers even in those days, minus Jay-Z. Both I Am and Nastradamus were both terrible, but they both had several features from some of the 90's biggest hip hop artists.
FrankRedHot 12.21.11	And just so you know, obscurity means you've basically been forgotten. Nas was never forgotten.
Scoot 12.21.11	that's true. getting back to my original question, though: do you think that biggie would have been able to maintain the same level of quality that ready to die and life after death had, or would he have dropped off (like nas did)?
Scoot 12.21.11	and i know what obscurity means, it was a poor choice of words on my part.
FrankRedHot 12.21.11	"that's true. getting back to my original question, though: do you think that biggie would have been able to maintain the same level of quality that ready to die and life after death had, or would he have dropped off (like nas did)?" I don't know. Most musicians/artists/rappers will have at least one album that EVERYONE doesn't enjoy. It's almost inevitable. I'd like to think Biggie wouldn't have, but who knows?
heyadam 12.21.11	awesome list, I love Pac the most though. He's definitely my favorite rapper
BigHans 12.21.11	its likely he would have, I mean, nobody is great ALL the time. Except for The Hold Steady and AC/DC
Tyrael 12.21.11	'I mean, nobody is great ALL the time. Except for The Hold Steady and Motörhead' fixed
BigHans 12.21.11	lol Lil B
Iamthe Nightstars 12.22.11	The # 10 "consistency" one is kind of pointless. If Biggie didn't die he probably would have eventually released some mediocre albums as well. Their posthumous releases are also irrelevant.
andcas 12.22.11	killer list. I would have added who came out on top of the beef. winner: 2pac.
greg84 12.22.11	I think that DEPTH is really important in any kind of music, not only in hip hop. Great list sir.
Inveigh 12.22.11	I like Biggie quite a bit more than Pac, but both are legends for sure.
BigHans 12.22.11	Their posthumous releases are also irrelevant. ^ No theyre not.
Iamthe Nightstars 12.22.11	How so? It's not like either artist had a choice in what to be released if they even decided to release those certain songs.
andcas 12.22.11	r u still down?, still I rise, and until the end of time have some great tracks.
Urinetrouble 12.26.11	'you should do dr. dre vs ice cube next and one of the categories should be "who was the biggest sell out?"
andcas 12.26.11	ice cube is the biggest sell out.
Iamthe Nightstars 12.27.11	easily...
BigHans 12.27.11	Cube is the biggest sell-out but he was a much better MC than Dre and absolutely killed him on No Vaseline. As far as the argument that their posthmous stuff shouldn't count: its music that they made. It counts.
BigHans 12.27.11	r u still down?, still I rise, and until the end of time have some great tracks. ^ Youre right Andcas, each one has about 4-5 good songs. Too bad the albums are 20+ tracks each.
SitarHero 12.27.11	Tight list. I've got the same deal. I like Tupac more, but Biggie was probably better.
MetalMassacreAttack 12.29.11	Outstanding comparison
BigHans 12.29.11	thanks dude
Tupik 03.13.12	Very good breakdown, I like the categories and the number of points attached to them, and I agree with the winner in each categorie and the overall winner as well. Extremely well done.