papudo
06.23.16 | libertadores>>cl
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Artuma
06.23.16 | yep cuz it's just so much better competitively to have some 7-0 results |
lazyeye
06.23.16 | hell yeah man |
Detritivore
06.23.16 | It's more rough, filthy, unpredictable than Europe...
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Nocturnalize
06.23.16 | nah, euros are way better |
Artuma
06.23.16 | yeah if all you want is american style showoff play then sure copa is better. euros have been more unpredictable result-wise so far though |
Detritivore
06.23.16 | Days ago I see Russia - England match...ufff just take a nap |
Artuma
06.23.16 | russia was one of the most boring teams in the euros but that's still infinitely better than watching brazil kick haiti's ass |
lazyeye
06.23.16 | it's super fun watching northern ireland sit with 11 men back against germany for 90 mintues yeah |
JamieTwort
06.23.16 | The only thing the Copa America has over the Euros right now is having the best player in the word playing like the best player in the word. |
altertide0
06.23.16 | "It's more rough, filthy, unpredictable than Europe..."
Yeah, Argentina and Chile in the final, who would have thought |
lazyeye
06.23.16 | yeah the group stages had no upsets at all dude |
JamieTwort
06.23.16 | Yeah didn't both Brazil and Uruguay go out in the group stages? |
trackbytrackreviews
06.23.16 | As a mexican...we no longer talk about Copa America ok? |
altertide0
06.23.16 | yeah but that was probably foreseeable. i only watch the big tournaments so i'm not sure how they played between the last world cup and now but in 2014 they were pretty disapponting (brazil making it to the semi-finals was a shitload of luck imo) |
JamieTwort
06.23.16 | Well Brazil were without Neymar who they're pretty much useless without so yeah that one's not the biggest shock ever. |
adr
06.23.16 | Does any of the teams have better defence then Portugal lmao |
trackbytrackreviews
06.23.16 | Also @jamie check Caifanes |
altertide0
06.23.16 | "Does any of the teams have better defence then Portugal lmao"
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cla3cuOWkAIEs4y.jpg:large |
JamieTwort
06.23.16 | @track: Ok I will. |
Shemson
06.23.16 | Too early to say what was better so far but having the exact same final as last time is pretty underwhelming in terms of excitement. I expect way more twists and turns in the Euros! |
Artuma
06.23.16 | well, the final of the last euro is a round of 16 match this time so |
Shemson
06.23.16 | Sure but I don't think anyone was really expecting Italy to make the final again this year is what I mean. |
Artuma
06.23.16 | yeah well the knockout bracket is unbelievably interesting, it's pretty much impossible to make any predictions for the final even though germany is always a safe call |
CamiloG
06.23.16 | As Colombian and football aficionado in general I have to agree with you Detritivore, South American football is way more competitive. |
Artuma
06.23.16 | in general, south american football is very entertaining but tactically horrendous |
CamiloG
06.23.16 | How's that? |
Artuma
06.23.16 | it always seems like south american teams can't play without possession, with the exception of chile |
CamiloG
06.23.16 | Excessively tactical matches tend to be boring and very closed in terms of emotions in my opinion. |
Artuma
06.23.16 | but that's how you win the trophies, i'm sorry but that just is how it goes |
zakalwe
06.23.16 | The difference between the two is South American players roll around on the floor for 15mins whereas with Europeans it's 10mins. |
Artuma
06.23.16 | in portugal it's 20 mins though |
zakalwe
06.23.16 | There was a point around '04-'08 where 90mins was taken up by both teams just rolling around on the floor while the ball remained firmly rooted to the centre circle. |
CamiloG
06.23.16 | "but that's how you win the trophies"
You mean like Greece won a Euro playing horrible football? |
Artuma
06.23.16 | yes. they played football that suited perfectly for them, it might've been boring and honestly quite annoying but they most certainly deserved the title |
Conmaniac
06.23.16 | Euros are way better what are you talking about. 4-0 and 7-0 in the semis is not competitive at all |
Conmaniac
06.23.16 | sorry 7-0 wasnt semis but still |
trackbytrackreviews
06.23.16 | @con the wound is still too fresh q_q |
Artuma
06.23.16 | still not as embarrassing as brazil in 2014 |
Conmaniac
06.23.16 | true go Germany :D
and sry track. honestly though I hate Mexico's fans they are always the shittiest at games |
zakalwe
06.23.16 | Why's that con dude? Just whistling all match or they're a genuine bunch of arseholes? |
Artuma
06.23.16 | no fans can be worse than the english media |
Conmaniac
06.23.16 | nah they start throwing shit like bottles and garbage once they start losing. like I know plenty of other countries are guilty of this but I see it from Mexico consistently |
lazyeye
06.23.16 | hahahaha yes. mexicos fucking fans are the worst scumbags ever. they make it rain trash everywhere they go. at the azteca they like to throw bags of piss and d cell batteries at people taking corners. they also like to shine laser pointers in the keepers eyes. how fucked is that? it would bring me so much joy for mexico to play at an empty azteca. |
lazyeye
06.23.16 | say what you want about tactics but the way spain plays is boring as hell |
zakalwe
06.23.16 | Hurling a bag of piss at a player? Cool :D |
trackbytrackreviews
06.23.16 | But...but...PUUUUUUUUUTTOOOOOOOOOO |
lazyeye
06.23.16 | i think fifa are going to punish them for that soon and good |
JamieTwort
06.23.16 | "say what you want about tactics but the way spain plays is boring as hell"
Absolutely nothing boring about the way Spain play. I could watch them all day. |
lazyeye
06.23.16 | but colombia, chile, argentina are boring? i just don't get it. much more fun fluid and attacking. |
Conmaniac
06.23.16 | argentina is rly fun to watch yeah but that's cuz Messi |
lazyeye
06.23.16 | and aguero and di maria and higuain and lavezzi |
ZombieParty
06.23.16 | im glad England will be playing Iceland instead of Portugal |
Shemson
06.23.16 | Lol did you see Spain play Turkey? Fluid attacking master class. |
JamieTwort
06.23.16 | "but colombia, chile, argentina are boring?"
No not at all, I love watching those teams, particularly the latter two. Although admittedly not as much as I enjoy watching Spain (except maybe Argentina but that's because of one player). |
MrSirLordGentleman
07.04.16 | lol super late comment but anyway
This year Euro might've been better but you guys gotta remember that this was a special edition of the Copa that included the Concacaf teams (hence the 7-0 results n' stuff)
What can't be denied though, is that world cup qualifiers are way more entertaining and competitive in South America |
danielcardoso
07.04.16 | The copa america was alright this year i guess, last year's was amazing and thus a lot better but this one still held up pretty nicely, it sure was fun to see brazil leaving in the group stages ahah, and glad to see chile win again. |
Artuma
07.04.16 | "What can't be denied though, is that world cup qualifiers are way more entertaining and competitive in South America"
well yeah, fucking san marino playing against germany isn't really necessary |
Maco097
07.04.16 | As a latin american I must laugh to what you just said. Copa America better lolololololo |
Maco097
07.04.16 | I mean did you watch the finale of Copa America? Chile and Argentina played one of the most boring games in recent memory. It was expected that they wanted to go for the penalties. |
MrSirLordGentleman
07.04.16 | The final was pretty boring on regular time, but the prorogation time was actually dope dude |
MrSirLordGentleman
07.04.16 | At least more than most Euro matches so far |
danielcardoso
07.04.16 | To be fair it was 1 in the morning when the final started where i'm at, but i literally slept through half of the 1st half because of how fucking boring it was being. |
MrSirLordGentleman
07.04.16 | yeah, the red cards really scared the hell out of both teams |
Maco097
07.04.16 | Euro matches had more quality on them. Example was Ireland vs Italy, damn it was an intense game especially on the last minutes. The only remarkable game in Copa America from this year was the Peru Brazil and the way how it ended. |
MrSirLordGentleman
07.04.16 | Well as I said, this certainly wasn't the best Copa America
But overall I still think the quality of the Conmebol is way better. It is a real deathmatch to clasify to a world cup unlike in Europe where most of the time your scariest enemy is the Faroe Islands lol |
danielcardoso
07.04.16 | Yeah i mean uruguay is 1st in the world cup qualification group and venezuela is last and look how their game turned out in the copa. |
MrSirLordGentleman
07.04.16 | Hey daniel, do you feel the worldwide hate to Portugal for making it into semis? haha |
danielcardoso
07.04.16 | Ahah yeah, all the haters can go fuck themselves tbh. They all love saying how portugal hasn't won a game yet, but they never seem to remember that we haven't lost too. They don't mention how we were down 3 times in a game and always came back too, and that we should've had a penalty in our favor against poland. |
MrSirLordGentleman
07.04.16 | I won't deny that I root for Wales tho since I always root for the underdog but yeah I'm more of an Eusebio's Portugal fan rather than the current generation
Never been a fan of either Messi or Ronaldo tbh |
JamieTwort
07.04.16 | How can you be a fan of football and not like Messi? smh |
MrSirLordGentleman
07.04.16 | Messi is awesome (as a footballer. He's an asshole but that's not important)
I just don't think he or Cristiano should be considered the bets players ever |
JamieTwort
07.04.16 | He's really not an asshole, relatively speaking. |
danielcardoso
07.04.16 | "How can you be a fan of football and not like Messi? smh"
same could go for ronaldo tbh. |
JamieTwort
07.04.16 | Not at all. Ronaldo scores a lot of goals but he doesn't play football like it's an art like Messi does. |
MrSirLordGentleman
07.04.16 | I'm just more into teams that play as a whole (like the style that Chile has these days, and yeah, it is my country so it is obviously subjective but I think we can admit the styles are pretty different)
While Ronaldo and Messi are used to their teams playing for them, which works most of the time for them and certainly shows the talent they have but yeah, not my style
I really think we are going into an even more subjetive kind of stuff than music haha |
JamieTwort
07.04.16 | And also there are things that Ronaldo does on the pitch that makes him very easy to dislike even for the biggest football fans. |
danielcardoso
07.04.16 | I mean you can't deny the impact he has on every team he plays for, he may not be very technical with the ball but he doesn't need to be, he's a great sharpshooter and his physical is on point too. Also, i think messi has had better days tbh. |
JamieTwort
07.04.16 | Ronaldo has had better days that's for sure. Messi on the other hand played one of his best ever seasons just over a year ago and I feel he has a lot more to offer playing in a deeper position for a few more years. |
MrSirLordGentleman
07.04.16 | yo Daniel, people in Portugal are really forgettin about Eusebio? I mean, yeah, on stadistics Cristiano is better but man Portugal vs North Korea in '66 was probably one of the best matches ever played no kiddin bro |
JamieTwort
07.04.16 | And of course you can't deny Ronaldo is a great player but you can definitely love football and dislike Ronaldo (on the pitch, not just as a person). |
MrSirLordGentleman
07.04.16 | I actually think Messi is more egocentric than Cristiano. On the field he has that narcisist persona but out of it he's actually pretty kind
Plus it is Messi the one that has shouted to his team mates more than once that they gotta pass him the ball since he is the star and that they are supposed to play for him (which may be true but really shows how big of a jackass he is) |
JamieTwort
07.04.16 | Couldn't disagree more. You really think Messi has shouted at his team mates to pass him the ball more often that Ronaldo has? Messi may have done it more than once (although I've seen very little evidence of this outside of the kind of thing you see from every player on a weekly basis) but Ronaldo does it all the time and has actually shouted at a team mate for getting to (and scoring) a tap in before he could... |
MrSirLordGentleman
07.04.16 | I still remember when he told to Alexis "You're here to play FOR me, you were so expensive yet you're so bad, you're no one"
Dunno, not saying Cristiano is not a douche overall but Messi certainly has his ego over the clouds |
danielcardoso
07.04.16 | Alexis >>> Messi if i'm being completely honest with myself. |
MrSirLordGentleman
07.04.16 | He was certainly losing his potential in Barcelona |
JamieTwort
07.04.16 | @SirLord: I believe it was Christian Tello he said that to. But very rarely do we see that kind of behavior from him on the pitch, especially not the most recent times.
"Alexis >>> Messi"
I assume you're talking in terms of preference here. |
danielcardoso
07.04.16 | Glad he moved to arsenal to team up with giroud and ozil, too many big egos in barcelona and real madrid too for that matter. |
danielcardoso
07.04.16 | If he said 'you were so expensive' then i think it couldn't have been tello, he was in barcelona even in his youth (ahah), it's not like he cost any money. |
MrSirLordGentleman
07.04.16 | "too many big egos in barcelona and real madrid too for that matter."
That's why Premier>>>>>>La Liga
I think we all agree on that |
JamieTwort
07.04.16 | The fact that there seems to be absolutely no ego clash between Barca's current front 3 is absolutely remarkable to me. They, especially Messi, seem to enjoy playing for each other/setting up one another as much if not more than themselves. |
JamieTwort
07.04.16 | @daniel: I think what SirLord posted is a mix of a couple of quotes. |
MrSirLordGentleman
07.04.16 | Is it? it was a long time ago so I've had to research a bit but at least on sites that are on spanish they say that |
JamieTwort
07.04.16 | Yeah after a quick google I think it's a mix of what he supposedly said to Sanchez and Tello. Although all the sources say the reports are unconfirmed/just rumors and some say he said it tongue-in-cheek so I don't know whether to believe he actually said these things or not anyway. |