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eternium 07.04.10	Fuck, why won't Metallica artwork show up?
ShadowRemains 07.04.10	weed
Satellite 07.04.10	' ^ That's why.
eternium 07.04.10	WEED. I'm sober enough to drive, but I'm still being silly as fuck and laughing.
Urinetrouble 07.04.10	1 is so frickin good. have you heard yawningman eternium?
curseworship 07.04.10	Weed is a waste of time and money
ShadowRemains 07.04.10	stfu
eternium 07.04.10	@Satellite, the ' is on the database too bro. @weedbeater, no I have not. @curseworship, you need to get high.
Urinetrouble 07.04.10	yawningman is amazing when youre high. theyre like stoner rock-meets surf rock
Satellite 07.04.10	I know, but when you edit yr list everything with a ' gets raped.
eternium 07.04.10	DUDE, I need to listen to Shrinebuilder high. I also need to get high more often.
Enotron 07.04.10	weed is pretty much super duper awesome
eternium 07.04.10	That's stupid. Besides, I originally didn't have the ' and it didn't know up.
curseworship 07.04.10	I have been high before and stand by my previous statement
cirq 07.04.10	smoker
eternium 07.04.10	Meh, some people just don't like it. And those people are usually girls.
curseworship 07.04.10	You leave my vagina out of this.
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	smoked for the first time in about 4 years the other day. meh
eternium 07.04.10	This is my first time in like three months.
cirq 07.04.10	i smoked for the 1st time in about 2 hours... bomb
Dryden 07.04.10	1 rules. but 7? get outta town
eternium 07.04.10	Psh, 7 is just like another Pantera, but with more breakdowns.
Urinetrouble 07.04.10	iu dont like 7. pantera ripoff completely. is it wrong to prefer paul dianno over bruce dickinson?
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	I just don't see the whole "weed's awesome" thing. I used to smoke a lot in my younger days, but I've found a cheaper alternative that gives you an even warmer, better feeling: alcohol.
curseworship 07.04.10	7 is awesome. And yes, Paul DiAnno sucks cock compared to the mighty Bruce
curseworship 07.04.10	mmmmmm alcohol....
eternium 07.04.10	Hey bro, alcohol will kill you, weed won't.
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	Yeah, if you drive drunk or are stupid/alcoholic and drink way too much. Everything in moderation. Also, weed can kill, trust me.
Urinetrouble 07.04.10	bruce dickinson is effing amazing but sometimes his theatricality and operaticness ruins the songs for me sometimes. ive always preferred pauls voice on the first album with its gritty punkiness but he sucks now. btw, eternium did you check out yawningman yet
eternium 07.04.10	Weed can kill if you're stoned as fuck and go out driving like a dumbass. But that's avoidable. Damage to your liver is not.
eternium 07.04.10	I'm not going to interrupt Dopesmoker.
Counterfeit 07.04.10	Post list bout weed. Get lotsa comments
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	But once again, you won't have a damaged liver in you drink in moderation.
Enotron 07.04.10	hundreds of thousands die from alcohol every year. 0 people have died from weed ever.
Urinetrouble 07.04.10	after dopesmoker is done, you should go to stonerobixxx.blogspot.com. awesome stoner rock/doom metal/drone blog
eternium 07.04.10	It doesn't take much drinking if you do it for too long. A decade of casual drinking can still fuck you up.
eternium 07.04.10	You've heard Shrinebuilder, right weedbeater?
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	Lol, dude, I've been drinking moderately since I was 16 years old. My liver's fine
eternium 07.04.10	If you say so.
curseworship 07.04.10	Quite the claim that no one has died from weed ever.
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	A bit off topic, but this question needs an answer nonetheless: WTF is the fat kid from Good Burger still doing on SNL?
Urinetrouble 07.04.10	duh ive heard shrinebuilder. best supergroup ever mirite?
eternium 07.04.10	http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/4426.php Maybe not ever, but a damn good one.
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	Marijuana dependency might not directly kill anyone, but it can cause psychological issues(delusions, schizophrenia, depression, bi-polar disorder) and does affect the motor functions, which will impair driving and/or the abilities to perform every day activities.
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	Don't get me wrong, I don't think marijuana should be illegal. In fact, I think quite the opposite.
eternium 07.04.10	You don't toke and drive just like you don't drink and drive. Marijuana does not cause psychological problems. In fact, there is more evidence that marijuana HELPS those problems than evidence that it causes them.
Urinetrouble 07.04.10	do you guys have last.fm? if so you should add me here
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	Can you explain the countless number of cases where people who just started smoking weed entered a stage of depression that they couldn't climb out of? They never had symptoms of depression before, but they do now! Also, you're right, you shouldn't toke and drive just like you shouldn't drink and drive, but just like the people who still drink and drive, there's plenty of assholes who toke and drive too
fr33convict 07.04.10	I'm high. I'm high on life.
eternium 07.04.10	Drinking and driving kills far more people than toking and driving anyway. From what I looked up, the studies about depression go both ways.
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	But see, you don't know that. They don't have a breathalyzer system for a high person yet, so you don't know how many accidents have and haven't been influenced by the use of weed. Please stop making blanket statements that no one, including myself, can prove or disprove.
Enotron 07.04.10	baneofsputnik- I've never met anybody who got depressed from smoking weed. I've met people who got their shit fucked up by alcoholism, but I haven't heard of weed causing psychological problems. In fact medical cannabis can be prescribed to help with depression.
Masochist 07.04.10	LIKE BEIN' LOW
Urinetrouble 07.04.10	http://www.last.fm/user/deathmantas
eternium 07.04.10	I've seen alcoholics/drunk people beat the shit out of people. I've never seen a high person/casual user beat the shit out of someone.
BallsToTheWall 07.04.10	Wish I was or drunk. Cat allergies have me unable to breathe properly and make me feel paranoid that im gonna stop breathing if I decide to fall asleep.
ShadowRemains 07.04.10	lol, this list has turned into an intervention...
Inveigh 07.04.10	either one is probably fine if you don't do it all the time, like Pit said, everything in moderation. seems like you're both exercising that, so why argue?
Enotron 07.04.10	and also it's incredibly obvious more are from drinking and driving. You are incredibly more impaired when drunk. Being high isn't even that much of an impairment and even if one considers it so, it doesn't fuck up your common sense nearly as much as being drunk.
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	Listen, I'm not trying to say any of you or wrong or right, but I'm just speaking from personal experience, and I'll share one with you guys. I was in a center, or rehab if you will, and I was shocked that there were 3 or 4 people out of the 20 that were there for strictly weed, nothing else. They were extremely depressed, never showed any symptoms before they started smoking(according to what they say, and unforunately, that's all I can go with), and couldn't get out of it. One of them even had a mild case of schizophrenia/bi polar disorder. I use to think weed was completely harmless, until I saw that.
eternium 07.04.10	"This study in particular examined the effects of a synthetic cannabinoid (HU210) on depression and anxiety. The results appeared conflicting; in some cases the HU210 seemed to produce anxiety and depression-like effects, while other cases showed anxiety reducing and antidepressant effects." http://media.www.chicagoflame.com/media/storage/paper519/news/2010/03/15/Pulse/Marijuanas.Effects.On.Depression-3890021.shtml
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	I don't know, there were times that I was fucking stoned where I shouldn't have been behind the wheel. Enotron- You seem to be making a lot of generalizations without any proof.
Enotron 07.04.10	Alright, I believe you. But you'd really have to abuse the fuck out of it, if it was caused by cannabis use.
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	Enotron- But see, lol, that's where moderation comes in. Of course, anything can hurt you when not used or done in moderation. Hell, masturbating too much can cause a reduction in sperm count and sexual addiction. Drinking too much can cause liver damage and brain dysfunction. Everything in moderation, because there is such thing as too much of a good thing.
eternium 07.04.10	I don't believe him. No chemical causes bipolar disorder. The vast majority of mental illness cases are strictly genetic.
Enotron 07.04.10	my proof being that I've been both high and drunk? I don't smoke weed that often, but I wouldn't be concerned even if I did do it ritually or everyday, because it's not physically addictive and its harmful effects on health are minimal.
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	You're mostly right, Eternium, there aren't very many chemicals from outside the human body that can cause bipolar disorder, but there are external substances and chemicals that can cause depression, which is basically a different perception of life. Depression can lead into bi-polar disorder.
eternium 07.04.10	Depression is caused by stress and genes. For most people, smoking is a stress reliever. However, there are people who become really paranoid when high. THOSE people should not smoke very often and I don't see why they would anyway.
shrapnel 07.04.10	"3 or 4 people out of the 20 that were there for strictly weed" weed is NOT an addiction, Bob Saget said so: "You ever suck a dick for weed?"
Enotron 07.04.10	I'm gonna call it a night fellas. Love to chat more, but I think my thoughts can be summed up by this: "Alcohol is more dangerous than weed. I enjoy the effects of weed more." Night.
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	You're right, eternium, it's caused by stress and genes. That stress and those genes create a CHEMICAL REACTION in the brain that releases a certain chemical(I forget which) that will cause the depression. Also, my wife is a manic depressive, and she doesn't have ANYONE in her family with a history of depression at all.
eternium 07.04.10	Marijuana is not at all physically addictive. I can promise you that there are thousands of more people who have serious food addiction problems than marijuana problems.
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	Lol, weed's not an addiction? Seriously? Because I used to steal money to buy my weed when I was younger. There isn't any other way to explain it other than that was caused by my addiction. If you feel you need to have it(and most potheads do), and you can't live without it(most potheads can't), then it's an addiction.
eternium 07.04.10	Please. You have to be trolling.
shrapnel 07.04.10	@ TheBaneofSputnik you ever suck a dick for weed?
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	There are people who smoke pot every now and then who aren't potheads. There are people who do coke every now and then that aren't cokeheads. But potheads and cokeheads both feel they need it every single day, every minute, every hour. They can't go to work without it, they can't have sex without it, they can't live without it. Now, you would go ahead and call the cokehead an addict, but really, what is the difference(besides substances. and I don't mean that a pothead's as bad as a cokehead, trust me, because they aren't)
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	There are mothers out there who smoke pot when they are pregnant, despite what their doctors and the studies say. That sounds like addiction to me, considering they haven't any regard whatsoever for the baby.
eternium 07.04.10	Those people aren't physically addicted. There are people who can't function a day without being on the internet or without masturbating. The percentage of people who do coke and are addicted and therefore are willing to do just about anything to get it are a LOT higher than the percentage of people who smoke pot and are willing to do anything to get it.
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	Van Smak- Ain't sucked any dick whatsoever in my life, but I'm sure that crackhead of a mom of yours has sucked a few.
eternium 07.04.10	You're mistaking careless people for addicts.
shrapnel 07.04.10	there's a diff between mental addiction and physical addiction weed is not physically addictive
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	Eternium- I'm not arguing that. Sure, their are plenty of more cokeheads, smack addicts, whatever then there are potheads, but what I'm saying is it is still addictive. Anything that makes you want more of it after doing it is considered addictive. It might not be as addictive as coke, heroin, crack, cigarettes, and pills, but it is still addictive nonetheless. And no, I'm not trolling at all.
shrapnel 07.04.10	@ TheBaneofSputnik guess you've never seen Half Baked then
eternium 07.04.10	It's also more addictive than alcohol.
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	I'm not talking specifically about mental nor physical addiction. I'm talking about addiction as a blanket topic. Marijuana isn't physically addictive, that's correct, but it sure as hell can be mentally addictive if not done in moderation. That's all I'm saying.
eternium 07.04.10	That goes for ANYTHING. Literally ANYTHING.
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	Van Smak- Yes, I've seen half-baked. I'm not a fucking caveman. I just didn't see the relevance of your joke.
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	Eternium- I've been saying that the whole time lol. Come on man.
eternium 07.04.10	Then that's no anti-cannabis argument at all. You can become addicted to cupcakes.
shrapnel 07.04.10	ok TheBaneofSputnik I think we can agree on that btw I was referencing a line from a movie "Half Baked" when Dave Chapelle goes to rehab for weed and Bob Saget says it's not an addiction and asks "Have you ever sucked a dick for weed?"
ebenezer 07.04.10	flim-flam
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	Lol, I never made an anti-cannabis argument. You guys said drinking was bad, weed isn't addictive, and I countered. I even said earlier that I believe weed should be legalized, considering it's no worse than alcohol. I never said it I hated the substance, I just don't prefer it, so I don't smoke it.
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	Van Smak- No, I got the joke. I just didn't see the point in throwing out a stupid line from a movie from 12 years ago when people are actually trying to have a civilized conversation.
shrapnel 07.04.10	civilized conversation? on MY sputnik? GTFO!
eternium 07.04.10	Alcohol is physically addictive and is responsible for far more deaths, even if you consider driving and the rare lung cancer. More people are alcoholics than people who are addicted to marijuana. More people die from liver disease by alcohol than lung cancer by marijuana. Alcohol is far worse and more dangerous than marijuana.
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	Also, my sense of humor dies after 12 AM, especially after watching SNL. SNL makes me think that there isn't any more humor left in the world.
shrapnel 07.04.10	"SNL makes me think that there isn't any more humor left in the world." that's cuz it isn't funny anymore
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	Jesus, Eternium, you're twisting my words completely around. Yes, alcohol is worse, I agree. Alcohol is much worse WHEN NOT USED IN MODERATION. If you go home and drink 10 beers every night, of course it's worse. If you go home and drink 2 of 3 beers once every 2 or 3 days(like me), then it's not so bad. However, which is worse? The guy who goes home at night and smokes himself retarded, ignores his kids and his wife, and doesn't have a job(not saying that's every pothead, nor am I saying there aren't alcoholics like that) or the guy who goes home and has 1 beer a night and has a great family life?
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	Yeah, I know. But when that's on the TV and the remote is in the wifey's hand, I gotta watch it. Hell, I even asked earlier in the thread "WHY IN THE FUCK IS THE FAT BLACK KID FROM GOOD BURGER STILL ON THERE?!?!"
eternium 07.04.10	That's totally different. That's comparing an "eh" to a "HOLY SHIT."
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	But do you see what I am saying? It goes either way. Marijuana can cause the same symptoms(not health wise, but maybe mentally) that alcohol can, just not as often and most of the time not as severe.
eternium 07.04.10	Marijuana doesn't cause someone to beat their wife and kids.
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	Lol, because he's too lazy to beat his wife and kids, so he just ignores them and pretends they don't exist.
eternium 07.04.10	I'm pretty sure that physical abuse is a lot worse than neglect.
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	Lol, it depends on how bad the neglect is. Neglect can basically be physical abuse. Not feeding your children is physical abuse. Ignoring their cries for food is physical abuse. Letting your home become rat infested because you spent all your money on weed rather than preventative measures can be called abuse.
eternium 07.04.10	Still not as bad as beating someone possibly to death.
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	So letting them suffer over a period of time and feeling the pain over weeks and weeks isn't as bad as a beating? Listen, I'm not saying either one is worse, but they are about the same, just in different ways.
AnotherBrick 07.04.10	havent smoked in 2 weeks. buddy coming over with a nice bowl of kush, and gonna watch into the universe with stephen hawkin. sounds like a fucking perfect night
eternium 07.04.10	If you're comparing 24/7 neglect to 24/7 beating, yes beating is worse.
AnotherBrick 07.04.10	hmmmm i feel like i jumped into a much more serious thread then i was hoping for
eternium 07.04.10	Marijuana is serious business, at least when you're not high. I'm pretty sober now.
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	in the moment, yes, a serious beating is worse, but neglect can be just as bad over time.
eternium 07.04.10	I've known people with botch. The people who used to be/are still beat by their parents are a lot worse off than the ones whose parents ignore them and don't care about them.
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	I'm not talking about a parent's ignorance(considering the "families" I grew up with couldn't care what happened to me, even though they fed me, clothed me, and gave me a bed). I'm talking about serious neglect. Not just ignorance, but completely and utterly neglecting the fact that said person may have mouths to feed and people to clothe, and don't because they are too preoccupied with what drug/substance/habit they have.
eternium 07.04.10	This argument just got really boring.
TheBaneofSputnik 07.04.10	Well, if that's the case, then I guess I'm done. I do appreciate the conversation, though, dude. Do you even realize that I am IntothePit?
eternium 07.04.10	I did not.