Jesuslaves: If I Do Good Deeds For Others Only To Make Myself Feel Better

Jesuslaves 08.04.11	List is stuff that has spent an abnormally large time gracing my ears lately.
Emim 08.04.11	If I try to lose the game Do I win? philosoraptor
pizzamachine 08.04.11	DAB IT I LOST THE GAME
foreverendeared 08.04.11	That's the definition of selfish, chief.
Jesuslaves 08.04.11	i didn't steal this from philosoraptor, but now that you mention it could work. this is a legit question btw
foreverendeared 08.04.11	You could have consulted with a dictionary and saved us all the time.
Jesuslaves 08.04.11	"That's the definition of selfish, chief." But I do good and generous things for other people to accomplish said feeling of self-fulfillment, which one would typically apply to a giving person, not a selfish one.
jayfatha 08.04.11	^ looks like you know the answer, why are you asking us?
Jesuslaves 08.04.11	"You could have consulted with a dictionary and saved us all the time." You could have consulted with a grizzly bear and saved me some internet anger. But here we are.
Jesuslaves 08.04.11	"looks like you know the answer, why are you asking us?" because this is a discussion, good sir
foreverendeared 08.04.11	"You could have consulted with a grizzly bear and saved me some internet anger." lol well I asked one of the members of Grizzly Bear and he said he didn't know.
acorncheese 08.04.11	doesn't make you cellfish at all. just means you're driven by gratification.
Emim 08.04.11	If you're doing it for self-gratification, then yes, it makes you selfish in that regard. That doesn't negate the fact you're still doing something good for someone else.
someguest 08.04.11	I don't usually ask people their opinions on things of which I know the answer.
foreverendeared 08.04.11	Do you care at all about how you achieve this self-gratification, or are the byproducts inconsequential to you? In other words, if there was a way that you could feel even better about yourself, and it didn't involve helping anyone, would you do it?
wabbit 08.04.11	It's selfish but that doesn't make it any worse or better. Even mother Theresa said she got pleasure out of helping the poor
foreverendeared 08.04.11	"Even mother Theresa said she got pleasure out of helping the poor" And yet the entire time, she was actually hurting the poor.
someguest 08.04.11	Yeah, she should have bathed more than once a year.
foreverendeared 08.04.11	and sucked more dick
YetAnotherBrick 08.04.11	Yeah, but that's partly the reason why anyone does anything for anybody else. No one DOESN'T like the feeling they get from helping somebody.
Jesuslaves 08.04.11	Their happiness makes me happy. Case in point, at work a few weeks ago (i work at a golf course), it was hot as hell out and there were two guys walking the course, i'd seen them around, they're good people. the water tank normally by the fifth hole was empty, so i took two cold waters out of the cooler, paid for both since the boss was around, and shipped them out to them. their happiness (which was enormous) made me happy. they gave me $5, which I didn't want, but one of the guys practically pried my fingers apart and stuffed the money in there. i don't know if i did it because i wanted to feel warm and fuzzy by doing something nice, or whether doing something nice was the real goal. weird shit, i need to go to bed i think.
ThirtySixChambers 08.04.11	"If I try to lose the game Do I win? philosoraptor" hahaha
foreverendeared 08.04.11	"Yeah, but that's partly the reason why anyone does anything for anybody else." That is not true at all. Altruism is a very real thing. "Their happiness makes me happy." Then you aren't doing it for entirely selfish reasons.