chambered89: No Country For Old Men

Voivod 08.29.11	haven't read the book or seen the movie yet... Bummer...
WeepingBanana 08.29.11	great movie but 1. not close to the best coen brothers 2. should not have won over There Will Be Blood for best picture
DocSportello 08.29.11	Tha Carter IV? Is it good?
coneren 08.29.11	Such a good movie
Gmork89 08.29.11	Ya it rules.
americanmusicmachine 08.29.11	i prefered zodiac to twbb and ncfom. but that was just an incredible year for movies
WeepingBanana 08.29.11	at least DD-L won best actor seriously there is no better actor than him. prove me wrong
taxidermist 08.29.11	I own that movie. So badass.
americanmusicmachine 08.29.11	robert mitchum, john wayne, james stewart, warren oates, harry dean stanton, robert duvall, timothy olyphant, etc. but yh ddl's real good specially in that movie. i find it funny that an actor as picky as him ends up in nine
foreverendeared 08.29.11	Exactly what WeepingBanana said.
WeepingBanana 08.29.11	in my opinion, not quite as good as fargo. probably about on par with o brother where art thou
taxidermist 08.29.11	I actually haven't seen There Wil Be Blood. I own the movie too, lol. Gonna put it on my watch list.
Cipieron 08.29.11	i'm always confused by people who own movies that they've never watched.
anarchistfish 08.29.11	love that film
Acanthus 08.29.11	Need to watch it still, also still digging the profile pic.
Mewcopa0 08.29.11	weird i just watched it two days ago.
paxman 08.29.11	"robert mitchum, john wayne, james stewart, warren oates, harry dean stanton, robert duvall, timothy olyphant, etc." Is this supposed to be actors better than Daniel Day-Lewis? If so, you're an idiot. The Big Lebowski is my favorite Coen Bros film, but No Country For Old Men and True Grit are just as brilliant.
WeepingBanana 08.29.11	but yeah sam you're spot on about the pacing. coen brothers are always great at pacing their movies. have you ever seen Miller's Crossing? that movie flows like a motherfucker
Trebor. 08.29.11	The Big Lebowski is my favorite, but No Country is second
Slum 08.29.11	I liked the movie but it doesn't come close to there will be blood tbh
renegadestrings 08.29.11	move was good, but they left out a couple of parts from the book that i really enjoyed. but that's true of most flicks i assume. the pacing was still excellent
vanderlyle 08.29.11	You don't have to do this People always say that What? They say "you don't have to do this." great movie, ending is excellent
americanmusicmachine 08.29.11	yeah paxman i'm an idot you fucking dickhead, for saying fucking Robert Duvall and James Stewart two of the most well respected and admired actors in American cinema might be better than DDL. Just watch Paris, TX and tell me that Harry Dean Stanton's acting in that isn't on the level of DDL in TWBB or any other film he's been in. just watch this motherfucker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pukrWvzCw44&feature=related
AngelofDeath 08.29.11	There Will Be Blood wasn't that good. At least not until the end where he beats that kid with a bowling pin. That was pretty funny.
foreverendeared 08.29.11	I absolutely love There Will Be Blood.
Kubrick 08.29.11	"should not have won over There Will Be Blood for best picture" Agreed... There Will Be Blood is incredible. No Country is still awesome though.
Trebor. 08.29.11	There Will Be Blood is amazing
WeepingBanana 08.29.11	sometimes i base a movie off of how many memorable scenes there are in it every fucking scene in there will be blood is memorable
foreverendeared 08.29.11	I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE
WeepingBanana 08.29.11	DRAAAAAAIIIIIIINNNNNAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEE
foreverendeared 08.29.11	True Grit was fantastic. "I do not entertain hypotheticals, the world as it is is vexing enough."
kirinphonetic 08.29.11	No Country for Old Men and There Will be Blood are two of my all time favorite movies. They are actually the only two posters I have in my room right now. Both are amazing, I could watch either one over and over and over again. If I had to pick one, I'd say There Will Be Blood, almost solely on Day Lewis's acting.
Trebor. 08.29.11	True Grit was anything but boring
WeepingBanana 08.29.11	yeah True Grit was great. i like it more than No Country i think when Rooster was carrying her to the house at the end, i swear to god i was about to cry
WeepingBanana 08.29.11	True Grit is the ultimate story of companionship
FrankRedHot 08.29.11	There Will Be Blood is one of the most boring, pretentious films I have seen to date. While Daniel Day Lewis won for Best Actor(much deserved), that's no reason to rate the film higher than No Country For Old Men.
WeepingBanana 08.29.11	nick, not only is Daniel Day-Lewis' acting flawless but the cinematography and tone are absolutely perfect. the story isn't as riviting as no country but it's better in pretty much all other aspects
Ovrot 08.29.11	i drink your milkshake i drink it up
FrankRedHot 08.29.11	"nick, not only is Daniel Day-Lewis' acting flawless but the cinematography and tone are absolutely perfect. the story isn't as riviting as no country but it's better in pretty much all other aspects" Cinematography and tone don't automatically equal an Oscar winner. You have to grab the viewer's attention first and foremost, and the story of There Will Be Blood was lacking. Day-Lewis is one of, maybe THE finest actor of our time, but he picked what I thought was a sub-par movie to make his comeback. I still enjoyed the movie, just not as much as No Country for Old Men.
WeepingBanana 08.29.11	understandable. No Country was probably more immediately gratifying for me but TWWB grew on me the more i watched it and thought about it. the image of Daniel Plainview carrying H.W. away from the fire accident is seared into my brain as one of the most memorable images in cinematic history
faux 08.29.11	twbb is good but too heavy handed and feels like it is self consciously intended to be a classic, Important Movie
FrankRedHot 08.29.11	^This is perfect. "the image of Daniel Plainview carrying H.W. away from the fire accident is seared into my brain as one of the most memorable images in cinematic history" I agree, but that's not the movie. That's Day-Lewis' acting that did that. There are plenty movies with a scene like that.
ziroth 08.29.11	it's an ok movie but the first 30 minutes are SOOO effing slow.
foreverendeared 08.29.11	There Will Be Blood was just one of those films that captured me from beginning to end.
americanmusicmachine 08.29.11	this best thing about twbb is the "i'm an oil man" speech in the beginning.
Slum 08.29.11	"and the story of There Will Be Blood was lacking" let's not be silly now
WeepingBanana 08.29.11	yeah i'm with foreverendeared here
FrankRedHot 08.29.11	I'm not being silly. I wasn't attracted to that movie because of the storytelling. I was attracted to that movie because of the incredible acting.
WeepingBanana 08.29.11	i also probably have a strong bias on everything DD-L is in he's the sole reason why The Crucible is at all watchable
FrankRedHot 08.29.11	^Agreed. Personally, his best movie is Gangs of New York.
Slum 08.29.11	you realize the movie was about a character and not boomboom explosions right
FrankRedHot 08.29.11	"you realize the movie was about a character and not boomboom explosions right" You realize that you're making a very incorrect assumption that I'm attracted to big, dumb, loud movies, correct?
Slum 08.29.11	well when you say one of the best screenplays in the past decade has poor storytelling i get concerned
FrankRedHot 08.29.11	Where did I say it was "poor?" Lacking=/=poor. It just means that it left something to be desired.
Slum 08.29.11	lol alright. what did you desire
FrankRedHot 08.29.11	More character development, more balance(first half was strong, second half was incredibly boring), no Paul Dano(he did not belong in this movie). Now, you can continue to be condescending.
foreverendeared 08.29.11	The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford There Will Be Blood Road to Perdition The Thin Red Line Citizen Kane 2001: A Space Odyssey Rumble Fish Amelie Chinatown Once Upon A Time In America all equally beautiful movies
WeepingBanana 08.29.11	man, i appreciate Citizen Kane for everything it did for cinema, but i was just bored to tears watching it. maybe cause someone ruined the ending for me, but still
FrankRedHot 08.29.11	Be careful, Weeping! Slum might think you're an idiot for finding it boring! I, however, find Citizen Kane to be the ultimate.
Slum 08.29.11	lol chill out dude, just talking about a movie. Paul Dano's portrayal was great, though not perfect, he did what he needed to do with the character. Daniel's character slowly evolves from the first scene where he's digging himself, to his lease in little boston, to him killing Henry and then comes to the perfect climax in the last 20 minutes. So, you saying it needed more character development is confusing, what more did you want
coneren 08.29.11	you now what a good fucking movie is? the jerk
Slum 08.29.11	i couldn't finish citizen kane when i first tried to watch it but a couple years later i gave it another try and loved it
FrankRedHot 08.29.11	Daneil's character slowly evolves? What do you mean? I knew exactly what he was going to be at the end of the movie right from the word "go." Dano's acting was horrible.
foreverendeared 08.29.11	I saw it for the first time when I was 12 and loved it.
WeepingBanana 08.29.11	i think what FrankRedHot meant was Daniel Plainview character didn't really change. his intentions and motivations remained the same throughout the whole movie. i personally thought character development wasn't very important for this movie cause there really wasn't a clear protagonist and antagonist, but that's just me
Slum 08.29.11	well it was pretty obvious he was going to be an asshole, but watching everything that contributed to that slowly dig into his character was brilliant. Dano played an over the top character as it should have been played, completely over the top.
jefflebowski 08.29.11	FrankRedHot is right up to a point, but TWBB is deliberately character-based rather than story driven - it takes a back seat to Day-Lewis, effectively. No Country is pretty much the exact opposite
FrankRedHot 08.29.11	"i personally thought character development wasn't very important for this movie cause there really wasn't a clear protagonist and antagonist, but that's just me" Ummm, you need character development in every movie. It's just so easy to get seduced by great acting that one can forgive other aspects. I just couldn't in this case. Slum, there's a difference between "over-the-top" and horrible, and I believe it was the latter in this case.
WeepingBanana 08.29.11	"Ummm, you need character development in every movie. It's just so easy to get seduced by great acting that one can forgive other aspects. I just couldn't in this case." i can think of plenty of awesome movies that didn't have much character development
Slum 08.29.11	people love the fuck out of 2001 a space odyssey and that barely had characters let alone development
foreverendeared 08.29.11	Yeah plenty of fantastic movies with zero character development.
FrankRedHot 08.29.11	"i can think of plenty of awesome movies that didn't have much character development" I'm not debating you on that. That wasn't my point. My point is every great movie needs great character development, but you can easily forgive the lack of it when the acting/story is great.
WeepingBanana 08.29.11	makes sense i guess. preference
jefflebowski 08.29.11	No country for old men hardly has ANY character development. You know virtually nothing about the protagonist or his motivations throughout the entire movie. Yet it's still awesome
FrankRedHot 08.29.11	You can always forgive certain movies for lacking certain aspects of cinema perfection when other aspects of the film are so great. Does that make sense? I highly doubt it. I'm a bit drunk.
CrisStyles 08.29.11	Agreed that Gangs of New York is Day Lewis' best movie.
foreverendeared 08.29.11	Daniel Day-Lewis' character didn't really develop or change, but his son did.
WeepingBanana 08.29.11	as far as D-L's performances go, GNY and TWWB are tied but as a movie overall TWWB is better. though the "WHOOPSY DAISY" part of GNY is so funny
paxman 08.29.11	Americanmusicmachine: actually, I was referring to the sore thumb in your list of actors better than Daniel Day-Lewis. Timothy Olyphant.
FrankRedHot 08.29.11	Except for Deadwood. But that was a TV show.
foreverendeared 08.29.11	lol Timothy Olyphant is not very good. He plays the same character in like every movie. Harry Dean Stanton, however, is pretty phenomenal.
CrisStyles 08.29.11	I really enjoy Olyphant in Justified.
jefflebowski 08.29.11	I was too busy worshipping Ian McShane in Deadwood to really notice Olyphant. I guess he was pretty good though
foreverendeared 08.29.11	Like I said, he's okay, he's just pretty much typecast at this point.
jefflebowski 08.29.11	Ryan Gosling looks pretty awesome in Drive
foreverendeared 08.29.11	I like him in Stay
FrankRedHot 08.29.11	I loved Ian McShane up until I saw him in that movie with Andy Samberg. I lost all respect for him after that.
jefflebowski 08.29.11	He'll always be Al Swearengen to me. In anything else he's just Ian McShane
paxman 08.30.11	Yeah, I don't want to hear the name Timothy Olyphant when we're discussing good actors. He's merely adequate. Ryan Gosling, on the other hand, is fantastic, and I can't wait to see Drive. Drive also has another of my favorite actors: Bryan Cranston.
Ire 08.30.11	ya cool movie even tho there werent many explosions
Josh D. 08.30.11	Movie rules.
talkshows 08.30.11	movie is excellent showed it for a class
Recspecs 08.30.11	Good ass movie
taxidermist 08.30.11	Watched There Will Be Blood just now. Fucking awesome movie.
clercqie 08.30.11	Absolutely loooooove the movie! Still have to read the book
FatChickIrl 08.30.11	lol @ 3
Ire 08.30.11	its no trivium - shogun
SmurkinGherkin 08.30.11	Book shits on the film
Vladimyr 08.30.11	Great movie.
FrankRedHot 08.30.11	I ma Pit, chamhered so shut up