fr33convict: I Hate Recording

fr33convict 05.05.11	not in any order.
ZilbelPing 05.05.11	Word. My band started recording one song, ONE, on sunday and we are just going to finish it today. Kinda not my fault, though. Seeing as I finished tracking the first day.
MetallicOpeth 05.05.11	My band was also charged per song. Saved us buttloads in studio costs.
fr33convict 05.05.11	Honestly I'm surprised we're not paying more. We're recording with a friend (his dad has a studio) in Pro Tools 9 HD or some shit like that with professional grade mics and gear for $15 a song. Also, that's every instrument, not just one. The un-EQ'd, un-mixed drums already sound almost perfect to me.
tkxxx7 05.05.11	that's really fucking good .
Itwasthatwas 05.05.11	sounds like you got hooked up big time, but a lot of the reason why it's worth paying for studio time is for the expertise the engineer brings the worst thing about recording though is doing a million takes to get something perfect do you guys have any demos
Hyperion1001 05.05.11	I'm recording at home, we tried to mic amps and shit but that didn't work out so we just ended up using amp sims. Surprisingly you can get some pretty sweet tones out of those (it is bm though so the production values don't really need to be set that high).
ZilbelPing 05.05.11	Dude I'm jealous. We're paying 200$ per song at a friend's professional studio. Compared to 500$ the other locals in my area have payed per song, which are only two out of 30.
fr33convict 05.05.11	"the worst thing about recording though is doing a million takes to get something perfect" yeah no kidding. "do you guys have any demos" yup. the guitar solos are lolbad because i recorded them when i was fourteen and had only been playing for two years but it's basically the songs recording (well, we're not recording ruiner and untitled, but we're recording a new track instead and are saving those tracks for a second release.)
MetallicOpeth 05.05.11	We did $100. But he moved permanently which sucks.
fr33convict 05.05.11	forgot the link http://www.sputnikmusic.com/soundoff.php?albumid=72567 "Surprisingly you can get some pretty sweet tones out of those (it is bm though so the production values don't really need to be set that high)." Yeah I used to record my guitar with one for our demos and once you figure out how to work them they're pretty good.
Itwasthatwas 05.05.11	yeah we did our old full length with amp sims and fully triggered drums. you can get really convincing high gain guitar tones with sims but you can't really get really responsive lead tones or mid gain sounds if you're going for a more organic sound. you can get convincing drum sounds with triggers and samples too but I wasn't a good enough engineer at the time and fucked it up. listening to your demo/EP now
Aids 05.05.11	hella props for including David Glimour, best guitarist ever
fr33convict 05.05.11	"but a lot of the reason why it's worth paying for studio time is for the expertise the engineer brings" yeah i know that. but we're also having our "band coach" (a friend who's been in the music scene for almost a decade as a producer, sound engineer, and musician) come with us to help.
Spec 05.05.11	Can't stand recording. Paying per song is a sweet deal though.
Itwasthatwas 05.05.11	on the 3rd trarck so far, your demos are pretty good for only playing for 2 years at the time, hook me up when you're done your new record. here are a couple tracks off our old full length. all ampsims/triggered drums, songs are from 2006 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2159465/04%20Blood%20Money.mp3 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2159465/01%20Twilight%20of%20the%20Idols.mp3 (album intro) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2159465/08%20The%20Fallen.mp3
fr33convict 05.05.11	That first track (in the order you posted the links) is really awesome. Definitely am going to download the other two.
Itwasthatwas 05.05.11	thanks man. let me know if you like them, i can link you the full album if you want
fr33convict 05.05.11	that would be cool.
kingjulian 05.05.11	Recording is so easily a hellish experience, and I just record by myself with garage band lol
Itwasthatwas 05.05.11	here it is man http://www.mediafire.com/?w627jw79cjeo0sr there's definitely a couple of shitty tracks but we were 16 when we wrote this
fr33convict 05.05.11	"and I just record by myself with garage band lol" dude at home when i'm writing shit i just open up garageband and crank up the ol' amp and drum sims and write it while i record it.
Itwasthatwas 05.05.11	yeah i'm thinking about getting the new apogee duet just for demoing purposes to use with logic or something since it's too much of a headache to always deal with a full rig
UnnamedOcean 05.05.11	Recording can be hell. It seems every time my band tries to record, everything goes wrong. The interface stops working, audio files get erased from the computer, a microphone won't record, and the list goes on. It must be those damned poltergeists.
newjunkaesthetic93 05.05.11	6, 8, and 15 are great guitarists.
R6Rider 05.05.11	Last time I recorded the whole band spent $1200...........for one song.
Ire 05.05.11	i always garage/hall record. of course this is vegas and all the producers are shit so doing a garage recording with two mics will sound better than the alternative
Ire 05.05.11	so you should really try out a live recording and see what happens
fr33convict 05.05.11	We'll see how that sounds at some point. For now though I think this will work. Today I recorded 4/5 of my guitar songs in two hours (excluding a mcdonalds run) m/
Chrisjon89 05.05.11	It is very expensive for quality studio time - band has to be on the ball and know their shit backwards. Also hopefully some of you are gear nerds - the other day I recorded vocals for a dude using a Neumann U87 into an Avalon 737. The result was amazing. Unbelieveable clarity and no real need to tweak EQ. That's thousands of dollars of gear and I can't compete at home with my SM58 and Pro Tools compressors.
FictitiousLandscape 05.06.11	I love recording. Well, from the production end anyway. You shouldn't be shocked at how long this is taking though. It's a difficult process, to ensure everything is proper.
fr33convict 05.06.11	I'm not shocked at all it's just is boring as fuck.
Itwasthatwas 05.06.11	freeconvict are you single, double, or quad tracking the rhythm guitars?
fr33convict 05.06.11	We're both doubling our guitars (so I guess overall we're quadtracking) with the exception of solos.
foreverendeared 05.06.11	WTF my bands always had to pay by the hour! this is bullshit, would have been so much cheaper by the song
fr33convict 05.06.11	I'll be shocked if the production actually sounds awesome though. Although the un-EQ'd drums are promising. Plus he asked if we wanted some crabcoar-esque bass booms.
foreverendeared 05.06.11	lol uhh fucking YES on EVERY bass hit please
foreverendeared 05.06.11	just one long huge bass boom through every song
fr33convict 05.06.11	even in the clean passages m/
Ire 05.06.11	omg compression n bass booms 6/5
fr33convict 05.07.11	don't forget the auto-tune!
Realm 05.07.11	srsly try recording a live demo in a warehouse er smthn dont be gay
fr33convict 05.07.11	but you can't overproduce that
Realm 05.07.11	silly me. record the drums with a cell phone and compress the shit out of them
fr33convict 05.07.11	A live recording is something I do want to try because I like the live feel of it, but for our first release we want half decent production. Not professional quality mind you (the guitars and drums where recorded "straight-shot" and we almost always used the first take), but the average music fan prefers Attack Attack production to lo-fi production. The goal of this release is really just to get our name out there, and if a better sounding (again, relatively good sounding since it's still going to sound worse than your average release) helps with that then I have no problem with it. Also, we're not compressing it to hell, autotuning it, and bass booms, and whatever else we COULD add. We don't play crabcore here.
Realm 05.07.11	2deep4me
fr33convict 05.07.11	ur mom wait wut