smaugman: rec me science fiction

smaugman 03.05.16	s'co
Deathconscious 03.05.16	the Hyperion Cantos by Dan Simmons.
Mort. 03.05.16	the sirens of titan i robot do androids dream of electric sheep? dune thats all the sci fi i can think of that i have enjoyed
altertide0 03.05.16	Stanislaw Lem - Solaris (or whatever tbh, most of his s-f stuff is great) just don't watch the movies Gene Wolfe - The Book of the New Sun (s-f/fantasy/psychological)
zakalwe 03.05.16	Flowers for Algernon The Demolished Man I am Legend Use of Weapons
Piglet 03.05.16	Dune - Frank Herbert
BookoftheFallen 03.05.16	Foundation- Isaac Asimov Dune- Frank Herbert 1984 Hyperion- Dan SImmons are all really good.
Cimnele 03.05.16	Roadside Picnic by the Strugatsky brothers Deathbird Stories by Harlan Ellison High-Rise by J.G. Ballard also everything Dick, Brunner and Aldiss tbh social sci-fi was really where it was at
smaugman 03.05.16	mort. i thought electric ship thing was blade runner?
smaugman 03.05.16	some of my fav science fiction movies so far have been alien(s), blade runner and the thing
smaugman 03.05.16	what do you mean
Deathconscious 03.05.16	Ubik by Philip K. Dick. also Valis. Valis is loosely sci fi, but its more just mindfuckery than anything else. one of the most interesting books ive ever read.
smaugman 03.05.16	also if i forgot to mention, im only looking for movies. i dont read
Deathconscious 03.05.16	you might have wanted to mention that awhile ago.
smaugman 03.05.16	oh well, i thought movies were first priority for most people
someguest 03.05.16	"also if i forgot to mention, im only looking for movies. i dont read" haha well played
BandNewbac 03.05.16	but books are better than movies in almost every way
smaugman 03.05.16	i dont really like reading
someguest 03.05.16	Don't worry smaugman, there will always be some 'intellectual' telling you books are superior at every turn.
Mort. 03.05.16	"mort. i thought electric ship thing was blade runner?" it is but as ovdeath said they are very different works and if you are looking for films then i suggest gattaca
adr 03.05.16	2001 A Space Odyssey, Brazil, Moon, 12 Monkeys, Children of Men, The Fly, Ghost in the Shell, Angel's Egg, Ex Machina
someguest 03.05.16	Man, every time you mention how much you love a film some cunt comes in and proclaims the book is better. Nobody gives a shit.
BandNewbac 03.05.16	i'm not being an "intellectual" there is nothing wrong with disliking reading and prefering films. personally i prefer reading, therefore i think books are better.
someguest 03.05.16	Then "I like the book more" is the correct response, not "the book is better". @ Band
smaugman 03.05.16	basically i've read a few books related to school and the hobbit + all three lotr books
BandNewbac 03.05.16	a lot of book to film adaptations haven't been great, but i'd argue that isnt because of how the story is translated to a different medium a lot of the time but just down to bad film making. its hard to state that the book is better when the two things are so different.
Cimnele 03.05.16	the book is better
BandNewbac 03.05.16	i would correct you here and say that lotr is actually one book, but that would make me an "intellectual". i hope you enjoyed the books you read.
someguest 03.05.16	Yeah. The reason films differ so much from their sources is because they have a multitude of people working on them. When you have many different inputs instead of one you're bound to make some adjustments whether it's conscious or not.
adr 03.05.16	2001 the movie > book The Shining the movie > book hard
smaugman 03.05.16	what's wrong with tolkien?
BandNewbac 03.05.16	i thought no country for old men was kinda meh tbh, had some great acting though.
BandNewbac 03.05.16	you can hardly compare the shining movie and book again because of how vastly different they are in story and mood. a lot of stephen kind adaptations are like that
adr 03.05.16	Stephen King is overrated as shit
smaugman 03.05.16	i think movies are more intense
BandNewbac 03.05.16	yeah i love the book and i read it before i saw the movie but idk the film left me feeling slightly underwhelmed.
someguest 03.05.16	LoTR is unbearable. Here's 500 characters and 10 different languages. It's more like a college course than a book. The worst reading experience ever.
BandNewbac 03.05.16	man i loved my experience with reading lotr its easily one of my favourites, a lot of tolkiens stuff post lotr is fantastic too imo
Mort. 03.05.16	so much discussion here yet the book thread on the community forums is nearly always dead :(
smaugman 03.05.16	you guys are nuts... lotr is really well written and an amazing experience
BandNewbac 03.05.16	^ YES
Yotimi 03.05.16	The shining movie is better than the book in every way
Deathconscious 03.05.16	King has his mediocre books like any other author with that many books under his belt, and since he writes for a living im sure there are plenty that are just cash ins. But salems lot, the dark tower series, and the talisman are among my favorite books.
smaugman 03.05.16	bandnewbac, ever read game of thrones?
adr 03.05.16	the book is like some fantasy like Alice in Wonderland compared to the movie lol, i haven't even finished it. It's not scary or dark at all
smaugman 03.05.16	but game of throne is way worse than lotr, it got like one billion names the first hundred pages
Deathconscious 03.05.16	LOTR is one of the worst books ive ever read. Theres no doubting its importance and Tolkien's ability to build a world is rivaled by few, but as far as writing an interesting story goes...
Piglet 03.05.16	LOTR is great for the beginning reader, i never had any trouble as a kid, always thought it was beautiful and a wonderful addition to my childhood. will always cherish the books and feel sorry for anyone that doesn't
Piglet 03.05.16	but jack nicholson's performance was great still can't get over that scene where it's just him frozen in the maze with that ridiculous expression - i mean what was kubrick going for there but for comedic effect hahahah in fact the whole film is just a comedy
smaugman 03.05.16	never like the whole arwen thing in lotr movie, she's basically non existent in the film
adr 03.05.16	i don't know why anyone would want to read the lotr books if he's seen the movies honestly, too.fucking.long with a lot boring and dull moments to justify the length i bet the books have even more of that
Mort. 03.05.16	this is depressing me as ive been looking forward to reading LOTR for some time now
adr 03.05.16	Also the ending of 2001 is one of the best endings of any movie ever, Kubrick not being ambitious is a joke of a comment. The ending of The Shining fits perfectly for the movie.
smaugman 03.05.16	mort dont be scared by these stupid lotr hating comments
someguest 03.05.16	"The ending of 2001 ruined the film. It was a good film with a brilliant premise up until the 30 minutes of psychedelic colours and then -the end- part. Dear god what a pile of fucking trash that ending was." It was the SPOILER birth of a universe, man.
someguest 03.05.16	The big crime is how Akira ripped off 2001: A Space Odyssey. I don't mind tho, love both films.
adr 03.05.16	ugh
Mort. 03.05.16	the final part of 2001 a space odyssey is awful, the scenes within the room with the older versions of himself are fine but the final shot of the floating foetus or whatever is pretty fucking bad
Piglet 03.05.16	yeah mort these guys are just a bunch of greasy beard hairs lotr is a genuinely engaging read, with immense depth and wonderful lore. Tolkien's love for the natural world and linguistics bleeds through regularly in his descriptions, his prose isn't dry and sparse like most in the genre, his inspiration clearly taking from the example of Ariosto. It takes a sorry sausage to deny the qualities which has made it so timeless
Mort. 03.05.16	the colours scene lasts around 10 mins i think but honestly i didnt mind it too much because at that point i got up and rolled a joint because fuck it i knew it would probably be unbearably boring otherwise yeah i havent seen it sober tho so it is probably worse than i experienced it
adr 03.05.16	the Jupiter and Beyond the Infinite sequence is beautiful u guys suck
someguest 03.05.16	People really don't like that ending? Damn.
adr 03.05.16	someguest watch Angel's Egg it's closer to 2001 than Akira tbh and it's really good.
smaugman 03.05.16	i have considered watching it, but it gives me the impression of being a super slow movie
Mort. 03.05.16	literally love everything about that film up to the last shot of the floating foetus its a shame. still a great film
Mort. 03.05.16	and yeah Smaugman its a slow as fuck movie
Cimnele 03.05.16	i love the 2001 movie, thank god someone decided to release a high-budget film which wasn't just 100% exposition for a change
zakalwe 03.05.16	Full Metal Jacket
smaugman 03.05.16	lol
Greem 03.05.16	Stanislaw Lem - Solaris, His Master's Voice, Memoirs Found in a Bathtub, Fiasco Strugatsky Brothers - The Doomed City, Kammerer trilogy, Roadside Picnic Daniel Keyes - Flowers for Algernon Mikhail Bulgakov - Heart of a Dog George Orwell - 1984 Evgeny Zamyatin - We Philip Dick - The Man in the High Castle, Ubik, A Maze of Death, VALIS Robert Silverberg - Dying Inside Brian Aldiss - Non-Stop
Cryptkeeper 03.05.16	Warhammer 40K is pretty great
smaugman 03.05.16	still a movie rec thread
Deathconscious 03.05.16	saving private ryan
Deathconscious 03.05.16	left behind with nicholas cage
smaugman 03.05.16	aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa science fiction
Deathconscious 03.05.16	those are definitive sci fi movies.
someguest 03.05.16	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrQwlgNXvfQ
Yotimi 03.06.16	If u think a movie based on a book needs to follow the story closely then you don't understand movies. Whats the point of even making the movie if its the same shit? If anything the more different it is from the book the better. A director should have his own vision, not trying to recreate someone else's. (Regarding the shining)
Deathconscious 03.06.16	Agreed, not only that but theyre different mediums, something that works for a book isnt always going to work for a movie. But people are usually biased towards the book if they liked it and read it before they saw the movie.
Deathconscious 03.06.16	Nah, a lot of great movies have come from books.