Intothepit
07.23.15 | I'm in love |
InfamousGrouse
07.23.15 | You are aware Bela Lugosi's Dead is technically like a single, right?
Actually listening to 20 right now. |
Intothepit
07.23.15 | Boys is so good though. |
AmericanFlagAsh
07.23.15 | Mmm 10 |
InfamousGrouse
07.23.15 | Always preferred Heaven Up Here and Porcupine tbh |
Intothepit
07.23.15 | Understood |
adr
07.23.15 | good list, but it needs some Wipers |
AmericanFlagAsh
07.23.15 | The killing moon will come too soon
For you Grouse |
BMDrummer
07.23.15 | closer is better, but it's nice to see deceit at 1 and a different PIL album on here |
PappyMason
07.23.15 | Nice, very nice. |
AmericanFlagAsh
07.23.15 | I'm gonna add the ones I haven't heard to my queue |
Intothepit
07.23.15 | Love me some Deceit |
Ryus
07.23.15 | yep deceit is fantastic |
altertide0
07.23.15 | good list, lacks Nick Cave's debut and Pop Group's Y |
BigHans
07.23.15 | I see you are still elite Pit |
Intothepit
07.23.15 | I will always be elite. So much garbage is discussed on this site nowadays. It's all a bunch of metalcore pissants. Time for a change. ¡Viva la revolución! |
BigHans
07.23.15 | Ive pretty much only been engaging in classic and thrash metal threads. |
Cygnatti
07.23.15 | fairly entry level list but any post punk is better than none. sput needs moar post-punx |
Greem
07.23.15 | listen to Kino |
NeroCorleone80
07.23.15 | Cool list. I'd definitely have Youth of America on here. |
ShadowRemains
07.23.15 | "good list, but it needs some Wipers"
wipers is more punk than post imo |
Intothepit
07.23.15 | Entry level? Lol buddy |
NeroCorleone80
07.23.15 | Wipers are experimental enough to be considered post-punk, some bands are just on the more punk end of the genre. |
Intothepit
07.23.15 | Experimenting =/= post punk |
adr
07.23.15 | "Experimenting =/= post punk"
Define me post-punk then? Because that's what exactly post-punk is. First Wipers album is just a punk album i agree, but the next two are definitely post-punk/art punk. They just have that more typical punk sound. |
InfamousGrouse
07.23.15 | "Entry level? Lol buddy"
I wouldn't necessarily take that as a bad thing. Sure, about half of this list is pretty much entry level. Doesn't mean they're not quality records. |
Cygnatti
07.23.15 | ^exactly. most of post punk's best records happen to be entry level |
adr
07.23.15 | check Beastmilk |
Intothepit
07.23.15 | It's not about the proper definition of post punk. I've heard bands experiment with other genres in their music, but that doesn't necessarily mean that a post-metal band becomes, say, a death metal one. |
Cygnatti
07.23.15 | if you say so:
post-punk is a form of rock music - an offshoot/advancement of the punk rock genre, and a notable precursor to the alt rock and indie rock genres. post-punk rejects punk's simplicity, while embracing and advancing the radical/political ideas, coupling it with more radical and experimental music. post-punk took important influences from krautrock, dub, electronic, synth/electropop, experimental, and sometimes folk and jazz which are almost always absent from traditional punk rock.
post-punk was literally formed when former punks or those influenced by punks decided to experiment with the sound and idea of punk. (an example would be john lydon/johnny rotten of sex pistols fame playing straightforward rockin' "punk" to PiL's dreary, meandering, unsettling, kraut and dub-heavy 'metal box')
indeed that simply being post-punk is not experimental, however certain bands and waves of post-punk induced a very important wave of experimental rock bands (think no wave). and the first 5 years of post-punk can be considered highly influential to future genres of alternative rock, indie rock, post rock, jangle pop, twee pop, indie pop, and many many more. post-punk and it's countless derivative genres would then become the dominant musical force in the 80s along with new wave.
post-punk can also be considered a sister genre to new wave, which coincides with post-punk, but having particular r&b, disco, dance, electro and synthpop influences. many post-punk bands happen to also be new wave as well. |
Intothepit
07.23.15 | Thanks for the unnecessary enlightenment. |
adr
07.23.15 | i'm not sure i'm following you, that example was terrible. Post-Punk is just more experimental punk that still retaining its roots from punk. It's more about the atmosphere tho, also a lot of Electronic/Krautrock/Art Rock influences therefore experimental. |
Intothepit
07.23.15 | It kind of is, considering it doesn't support neither argument, and didnt tell us anything we already didn't know. |
adr
07.23.15 | lol Cyg beat me with that wiki post lol |
Intothepit
07.23.15 | How is that example terrible? So any punk band that experiments is automatically not just a punk band? I get that there are a lot of other aspects of post punk that set it apart from its origins, but experimenting doesn't automatically make it post punk. |
Intothepit
07.23.15 | Not really. Experimenting with different sounds doesn't automatically make a band "post punk." There's a lot more to it than that. |
Intothepit
07.23.15 | We weren't talking about the name of a genre. We were discussing a singular band that he said "experimented." |
Intothepit
07.23.15 | I can understand that, and I'm not disagreeing with you nor him on that, but a *insert genre here* band adding a little bit of another instrument or another genre to their music doesn't make them that genre. That's all I'm saying. |
jagride
07.24.15 | first 3 wipers records and the impulse behind them epitomize punk. i've never gone in for the tendency to treat it like some inherently creatively stunted 1-2-3-4 garage shit and then start throwing around the post-puink tag to describe more sophisticated music either. those restrictions and distinctions weren't there at the start and most punk bands worth a shit weren't/aren't content to play it safe
solid list man. been giving ubu another go recently, never really warmed to them despite loving a lot of that clevo scene in general |
widowslaugh123
02.25.20 | Good |
