Ebola
06.09.15 | I call myself agnostic, although I'm pretty sure that Chuck Schuldiner is the one true God |
AtomicShane
06.09.15 | atheist breh |
MoosechriS
06.09.15 | Atheist and somewhat anti-religious |
SCREAM!
06.09.15 | pastafarian |
Ebola
06.09.15 | @SCREAM! lol, where do you want me to put that down? |
ButteryBiscuitBass
06.09.15 | Buddhist |
Supercoolguy64
06.09.15 | diest |
Friday13th
06.09.15 | I'm a Christian of Jewish decent. Bob Dylan is too btw :] |
KrazyKris
06.09.15 | Honestly, I think 2 is a bit too much put together. There's not too much that ties a deist and a humanist together, even if they both embrace the rational. I'd say I'm humanist and irreligious in a way. |
IronGiant
06.09.15 | born and raised jewish and I still value a lot of things about judaism but my personal views are more agnostic |
Ebola
06.09.15 | @KrazyKris: I agree, fixed accordingly |
Valkyrion
06.09.15 | agnostic |
wwf
06.09.15 | agnostic af
born catholic |
Friday13th
06.09.15 | Hey Ebola, I was being serious so you can write me down as a Christian. I do think Bob Dylan is too, but I could be wrong. I'm just clarifying the difference between being of Jewish decent and being Jewish religiously. |
pissbore
06.09.15 | I'm a sludgist, shroomist, dimensionist, propanist, funkist, cosmic voidist, necroist, nomadist, renegade rambler and timeghoul with a strong affinity for Hinduism and a passionate dispassion for the abrahamic religions. Hail cracklord Satan, call me what you will. |
KrazyKris
06.09.15 | I don't know, if one could describe Dylan's position to religion properly. Since his gospel phase around 1980 he's a bit strange, when it comes to that. |
Artuma
06.09.15 | agnostic |
Ebola
06.09.15 | @pissbore 2tumblr4me |
AmericanFlagAsh
06.09.15 | Agnostic
Born muslim |
AmericanFlagAsh
06.09.15 | Lol how do you not have Islam on here when it's one of the biggest |
emester
06.09.15 | not really a spiritual person but i guess if i had to classify myself as anything it would be a reform jew |
Friday13th
06.09.15 | @KrazyKris I'm reading up on him and yeah it's all a bit hazy. He says he's not a part of any organized religion, but then goes out and does both Jewish and Christian things. I just think it's unfair that my name has to be next to the Newsboys when we have as good a claim on Dylan as Jewish believers haha |
NLD
06.09.15 | I consider myself Christian but I believe that most Christians have distorted ideas about Jesus and the afterlife so tbf some Christians don't consider me a true Christian. Categorize that as you will |
Evreaia
06.09.15 | LaVeyan Satanism
And I'm being serious here. |
KrazyKris
06.09.15 | @Friday
Well, could be worse. Could be Creed |
SharkTooth
06.09.15 | Agnostic |
YakNips
06.09.15 | chumbawamba |
RogueNine
06.09.15 | Pop me next to that Newsboys album (ugh Newsboys). |
Royl123
06.09.15 | Irreligious |
guitarded_chuck
06.09.15 | I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I'm fucking retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful. I'm having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me "Apache" and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can't accept me you're a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding. |
TheCollectiveFacade
06.09.15 | the one true god, atheist |
Dunwich
06.09.15 | I believe in fuck all. |
Space Jester
06.09.15 | Christian.
You should change the Newsboys album to mewithoutYou or another actually good band. |
Feather
06.09.15 | I practice Classical Greek polytheism |
Space Jester
06.09.15 | And you should make a Catholic category with Slayer as the band/album. |
ElegantElephant
06.09.15 | muslim/Islamic |
guitarded_chuck
06.09.15 | honestly though - agnostic
the trained scientist in me can see no other logical conclusion |
betray
06.09.15 | atheist |
Space Jester
06.09.15 | "Maybe but who cares" is a pretty good scientific analysis |
MuhNamesTyler
06.09.15 | atheist |
SharkTooth
06.09.15 | @jesterhead that's the only one you can come to with a scientific perspective |
Space Jester
06.09.15 | Oh I don't disagree. It just shows how people on both sides really have no clue and its interesting. |
Feather
06.09.15 | @jesterhead thats simply not true. I know exactly what awaits me in the afterlife and I pity all of you who don't know. My religion is correct and yours is wrong. I know. |
Space Jester
06.09.15 | May the Greek gods show you favor |
SharkTooth
06.09.15 | @Feather my god has a bigger dick than your gods combined |
ElegantElephant
06.09.15 | my body is not ready to face the shitstorm this thread will dissolve in |
Feather
06.09.15 | @sharktooth Which one? |
Mort.
06.09.15 | Shikarian |
evilford
06.09.15 | agnostic |
SpiritCrusher2
06.09.15 | atheist
born catholic |
zakalwe
06.09.15 | Atheist |
Feather
06.09.15 | Mort. I like your charisma although I do not like the Gods you praise |
Avagantamos
06.09.15 | atheist |
guitarded_chuck
06.09.15 | "@jesterhead thats simply not true. I know exactly what awaits me in the afterlife and I pity all of you who don't know. My religion is correct and yours is wrong. I know."
this is why i love religious discussion (not)
i'm such a sympathetic agnostic too and absolutely 100% believe in the right to religion as well as disapprove of superiority in religious beliefs / forcing beliefs unto others |
wacknizzle
06.09.15 | humanist
I don't need to believe in a god to consider the possibilities(or lack of) after death. The process of dying is the only considerable fear |
Eggvander
06.09.15 | weak/negative atheism or agnostic so I'd go with agnostic here. |
rufinthefury
06.09.15 | Pantheist. |
SirArthur6
06.09.15 | Agnostic |
Mort.
06.09.15 | "Mort. I like your charisma although I do not like the Gods you praise"
Praise be to shikari brother
~~~~~~Take to the skies~~~~~~
|
evilford
06.09.15 | I can see this thread getting more hostile than the sexuality thread did |
Mythodea
06.09.15 | Shouldn't everyone be Humanist, apart from their religion? I mean, all religions are about love, thus... |
altertide0
06.09.15 | atheist/agnostic, no difference anyway so put me wherever you like |
altertide0
06.09.15 | Also (about 8): "no opinion" = agnostic |
Lakes.
06.09.15 | agnostic |
evilford
06.09.15 | this is a music website |
dbizzles
06.09.15 | I'm a definite atheist, not agnostic.
Evilford was correct in listing them separately. |
JWT155
06.09.15 | Christian.
come at me bros. |
altertide0
06.09.15 | "this is a music website"
lists:
05.12.15 depression?
anyone else suffer from depression? it's been real bad the last couple days. listening to ajfa right now
04.03.15 smokers
just curious who else smokes, what their brand is, etc. list is albums I smoke to
12.30.13 How I Met Your Mother
used to love this show, first 4 seasons were great. writing has gone downhill and now I've learned that the entire final 24-episode season will take place over a 3-day period during barney and robin's wedding weekend. maybe this is old news but that's ridiculous, horrible plot decision, I can't believe it wtf were they thinking list is digs discuss
etc |
pissbore
06.09.15 | I only worship at the metal church |
LepreCon
06.09.15 | I am in no way religious or spiritual. I believe this is the one shot we have we are nothing as we were before. I don't believe in an afterlife. No heaven. No hell. Definitely no god.
Still Catholic.
(But srsly, I'm atheist, brah) |
altertide0
06.09.15 | @dbizzles what's the real difference between atheists and agnostics?
both atheists and agnostics don't believe in god and act like he doesn't exist, the only difference is that when you ask atheist whether god exists or not he'll tell you "probably not/we can't know it anyway so we should assume he doesn't" and agnostic will tell you "don't know/don't care". Not really a big difference. |
Valkyrion
06.09.15 | Atheist = belief that there is no god
Agnostic = people who hold their judgement on the matter because there is no proof |
evilford
06.09.15 | "altertide0"
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sarcasm |
mindleviticus
06.09.15 | atheist |
altertide0
06.09.15 | "Atheist = belief that there is no god"
This is stupid. No atheist thinks there is 100% proof there's no god, and if he does, he's an idiot. |
altertide0
06.09.15 | @evilford yeeeah, because it's so easy to tell on the internet whether someone is hypocrite or just ironic. |
AmericanFlagAsh
06.09.15 | Wtf did I start with my LGBT thread haha
These lists |
Valkyrion
06.09.15 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism
"Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities." |
CalculatingInfinity
06.09.15 | Agnostic |
evilford
06.09.15 | how did belief and proof become the same thing |
altertide0
06.09.15 | Thank you, it's right there: "the rejection of belief in the existence of deities". Which proves my point. The other meaning is, as you said yourself, NARROWER, ie less common |
guitarded_chuck
06.09.15 | "This is stupid. No atheist thinks there is 100% proof there's no god, and if he does, he's an idiot.'
actually by definition 100% of atheists believe this
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evilford
06.09.15 | @altertide with my own lists that you so eloquently exampled, I hope you didn't actually think I was that stupid. sorry, I'll add "/sarcasm" at the end of every sarcastic comment henceforth |
Valkyrion
06.09.15 | got that mixed up a little yea ~ |
worthlessscab
06.09.15 | i believe in my desires and whims |
SonofSnow
06.09.15 | Atheist |
altertide0
06.09.15 | @evilford well i did and glad i was wrong
@guitarded_chuck lol
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guitarded_chuck
06.09.15 | lol yourself noob |
beefshoes
06.09.15 | I grew up as a Catholic, and I still love and look forward to Catholic holidays; however, my house was always extremely secular.
I've identified as an agnostic atheist (philosophically) since I was 11 years old.
|
Sevengill
06.09.15 | Irreligious |
dbizzles
06.09.15 | 'This is stupid. No atheist thinks there is 100% proof there's no god, and if he does, he's an idiot.'
I think there is enough proof for me to believe 100% there is no god. If I'm an idiot because of that, you can go fuck yourself. All I wanted to point out is that agnostic =/= atheist.
|
Sevengill
06.09.15 | if RabbitPal doesn't worship Frith then he's doing it wrong |
Feather
06.09.15 | @evilford Poe's Law |
DamnVanne
06.09.15 | Sikh |
TheHamburgerman
06.09.15 | Anti-Anti-theist |
evilford
06.09.15 | I don't think atheism has anything to do w/ "proof" that there are no deities, it's simply the belief that there are no deities. two completely different things. |
Feather
06.09.15 | How can you all be dumb enough to not believe in gods? No Poseidon? Explain the Oceans! No Apollo? Explain the sun! This thread is ridiculous. |
dbizzles
06.09.15 | 'I don't think atheism has anything to do w/ "proof" that there are no deities, it's simply the belief that there are no deities. two completely different things.'
THANK YOU! |
JJKeys
06.09.15 | Atheist |
evilford
06.09.15 | atheists have as much proof to their beliefs as christians do to theirs, etc |
Sevengill
06.09.15 | religion usually involves a set of beliefs and observances, so atheism is (in my experience) the absence of those. it's the "none of the above" box. |
guitarded_chuck
06.09.15 | no, atheism is the *belief* that there is no god |
SonofSnow
06.09.15 | Atheists aren't the ones claiming a deity exists. Different burden of proof. |
altertide0
06.09.15 | @dbizzles you can "believe" 100% there's no god all you want, but you can't know it 100%. Given what we know about the universe it's very reasonable to assume there's no god, but we can't prove it, it's impossible by definition. There certainly is no christian god, or jewish god, or muslim god or any *specific*, personalized god, but how do we know that god didn't create the universe and then went away? well, we don't, it's only very unlikely, but not definitely untrue. |
moshpotatoes
06.09.15 | "I don't think atheism has anything to do w/ "proof" that there are no deities, it's simply the belief that there are no deities. two completely different things."
yes it does. Atheist is when you go out of your way to prove your view if not then youre agnostic. |
Sevengill
06.09.15 | actually I take that back. there's a reason I stated "irreligious" instead of atheism. ignore my above comment. |
dbizzles
06.09.15 | I believe there is no god, therefore I'm an atheist.
If I didn't have a belief either way, I would be agnostic.
Happy? |
altertide0
06.09.15 | "atheists have as much proof to their beliefs as christians do to theirs, etc"
Nope. Religious people believe there definitely is god, which is totally unreasonable, and atheists only *assume* (meaning *think that most probably*) there is no god given the complete lack of evidence.
The same way you assume somebody not guilty until proven guilty but that doesn't mean you believe he certainly isn't guilty. Come on, it's simple stuff. :/ |
evilford
06.09.15 | this is gonna get into the same territory the sexuality thread did. Atheism IN ITSELF is not a religion, but it indicates a certain group's religious beliefs, or more specifically, their lack of religious beliefs. once again, for the purpose of indicating the differences of religious beliefs of the userbase, I think it's harmless to put extreme pickyness on hold and consider atheism a religion |
zakalwe
06.09.15 | Muslim fundamentalist |
Lakes.
06.09.15 | " actually by definition 100% of atheists believe this"
no they don't. atheism is the lack of a belief in a deity, not a belief in the absence of one. you're stupid, as usual. |
altertide0
06.09.15 | @evilford this is not what im talking about |
Sevengill
06.09.15 | but atheists often consider that insulting, evil. religions have extremists and cults and holy wars over something that cannot be proven to exist, so calling atheism a religion defeats the point to a lot of people. |
Aftertheascension
06.09.15 | Christian. |
beefshoes
06.09.15 | Faith is effectively the antithesis of empiricism, and it takes varying amounts of faith to hoist any ideological banner. All that most atheists that I've met claim (including myself) is that they do not have faith in god, and argue that there probably isn't a god due to the lack of evidence. Only a fool would argue that a lack of evidence is equivalent to non-existence. Evidence in this area of inquiry is also subjective for non-empiricists/non-positivists. Some people see rainbows as a sign of a deity. Science can explain phenomena like rainbows in terms of evidence via observation, data, and probability, but nothing can ever be proven (logically speaking) with 100% certainty. Gods are ways of giving people that sense of undeniable and concrete comfort, and I suppose there's nothing wrong with that so long as it's not used as a tool for violence, subjugation, and as a means of keeping people from getting a science-based education. |
RogueNine
06.09.15 | This actually went a different direction than I thought it would. |
evilford
06.09.15 | "yes it does. Atheist is when you go out of your way to prove your view if not then youre agnostic."
atheism has nothing to do with specifically trying to prove your POV. at least no moreso than any other religion. atheism is literally the belief that there are no deities. there is no construct specific to atheism that dictates how far out of their way atheists go to prove their point of view.
"Nope. Religious people believe there definitely is god, which is totally unreasonable, and atheists only *assume* (meaning *think that most probably*) there is no god given the complete lack of evidence."
this has nothing to do with my point. where in here are you addressing the supposedly differing burdens of PROOF of religions? hard belief vs assumption ALSO has nothing to do with proof. is this attack ford day? |
dbizzles
06.09.15 | altertide0 thinks being atheist or agnostic are the same thing even though he had to explain them separately. |
guitarded_chuck
06.09.15 | "Faith is effectively the antithesis of empiricism. All that most atheists that I've met claim (including myself) is that they do not have faith in god, and argue that there probably isn't a god due to the lack of evidence. Only a fool would argue that a lack of evidence is equivalent to non-existence. Evidence in this area of inquiry is also subjective for non-empiricists/non-positivists."
Then you (and they) are agnostic, by definition. |
guitarded_chuck
06.09.15 | "altertide0 thinks being atheist or agnostic are the same thing even though he had to explain them separately."
altertide missed the class on religion 101 and therefore is not useful for this conversation, pls ignore |
ArsMoriendi
06.09.15 | Atheist, I wish I was agnostic, but I can't even really consider there being a higher power, it just seems so incorrect.
Plus I'm like the least spiritual person I know... |
evilford
06.09.15 | "but atheists often consider that insulting, evil. religions have extremists and cults and holy wars over something that cannot be proven to exist, so calling atheism a religion defeats the point to a lot of people"
nobody is even really calling atheism a religion, unless I missed it. we're simply using the term to indicate peoples' religious beliefs or lack thereof. must be fuck w/ ford day |
zakalwe
06.09.15 | Spinozasist |
Lakes.
06.09.15 | guys i argue with chuck in PNWI all the time, his opinions can be safely ignored just FYI |
dbizzles
06.09.15 | @ArsMoriendi I'm right there with you. I was agnostic throughout high school and my lower-twenties, but now- and I mean no offense toward any users here and am not looking to argue- I can not even entertain the idea that there is a higher power or creator other than what science has explained, however incomplete or uncertain this explanation may be. |
zaruyache
06.09.15 | Atheism isgiving a less icky name to the "n/a" category of lists such as this, which is totally fine. My browser on my phone crashed the last two times I tried to post here so i'll just label myself a secular humanist atheist and reply more later (if it let's me post this at all). |
EvoHavok
06.09.15 | Agnostic.
Put Moonspell - Irreligious as the album for 8. |
Muppelope
06.09.15 | I'd consider myself humanist or atheist. |
LambsBread
06.09.15 | "altertide missed the class on religion 101 and therefore is not useful for this conversation, pls ignore "
why are all atheists so douchey?
|
JasonCarne
06.09.15 | Atheist. |
guitarded_chuck
06.09.15 | im not atheist
and hilary is still a dumbass |
dbizzles
06.09.15 | Not all atheists are douchey, Lambs. I'm open to all religions and will never tell you what's what or judge you on your religious views even though I whole-heartedly believe there are no deities.
I never even talk about it unless I'm asked, because I live in Utah and people here think you're a Satanist if you don't believe in God. |
SmileNerd
06.09.15 | Atheist. |
guitarded_chuck
06.09.15 | if he actually read the thread i clearly stated that i am agnostic, and if he read the context of that quote and where it came from he would have seen that i was downplaying the "douchey" comments altertide was making (not even douchey just ignorant)
but anyway like i said yeah guy is still a dumbass |
Lakes.
06.09.15 | i'm atheist now cause chuck is agnostic, change my vote |
Gwyn.
06.09.15 | Agnostic |
Sevengill
06.09.15 | I believe in the Church of Baseball. I've tried all the major religions, and most of the minor ones. I've worshipped Buddha, Allah, Brahma, Vishnu, Siva, trees, mushrooms, and Isadora Duncan. I know things. For instance, there are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. When I heard that, I gave Jesus a chance. But it just didn't work out between us. The Lord laid too much guilt on me. I prefer metaphysics to theology. You see, there's no guilt in baseball, and it's never boring... which makes it like sex. There's never been a ballplayer slept with me who didn't have the best year of his career. Making love is like hitting a baseball: you just gotta relax and concentrate. Besides, I'd never sleep with a player hitting under .250... not unless he had a lot of RBIs and was a great glove man up the middle. You see, there's a certain amount of life wisdom I give these boys. I can expand their minds. Sometimes when I've got a ballplayer alone, I'll just read Emily Dickinson or Walt Whitman to him, and the guys are so sweet, they always stay and listen. 'Course, a guy'll listen to anything if he thinks it's foreplay. I make them feel confident, and they make me feel safe, and pretty. 'Course, what I give them lasts a lifetime; what they give me lasts 142 games. Sometimes it seems like a bad trade. But bad trades are part of baseball - now who can forget Frank Robinson for Milt Pappas, for God's sake? It's a long season and you gotta trust it. I've tried 'em all, I really have, and the only church that truly feeds the soul, day in, day out, is the Church of Baseball. |
Judio!
06.09.15 | Idk, put me down for Atheist I guess |
Alastor
06.09.15 | I am god. Therefore I'm a theist/deist. |
guitarded_chuck
06.09.15 | kanye west username confirmed |
NorwichScene
06.09.15 | Atheist |
KrazyKris
06.09.15 | "Science can explain phenomena like rainbows in terms of evidence via observation, data, and probability, but nothing can ever be proven (logically speaking) with 100% certainty."
That's true to some point, but I guess not in the way you meant it. In fact there's no proof of anything except your very own existance. Everything and really everything else can not be definitively proven. But that is the strict version that harkens back to "I think, therefore I am" in some way.
While that is true, to be able to live our life we need to rely on knowledge that might not be proven to 100% by that definition, but that is based on evidence and therefore has a likelihood to be reality of figuratively speaking 99%.
Now religion is the reliance on hope above everything. It completely neglects the idea of empirism and dismisses observation and reason. And therefore I really can't agree with
"Gods are ways of giving people that sense of undeniable and concrete comfort, and I suppose there's nothing wrong with that"
The thing is, I'd say we as humans are to a certain extent defined by our ability to think in quite complex patterns and to process what we experience and witness in a way that actually gives us the chance to explain and describe that properly. The nature of religious belief contradicts that in a way, that just appear to be quite...dumb to me (sorry for that expression, but I really can't phrase it differently). |
altertide0
06.09.15 | thank you for personal attacks for no reason given |
evilford
06.09.15 | talking about religion isn't as fun as talking about fellatio or cunnilingus |
Lakes.
06.09.15 | i think about dick way more than god tbh |
altertide0
06.09.15 | @evilford
"this has nothing to do with my point. where in here are you addressing the supposedly differing burdens of PROOF of religions? hard belief vs assumption ALSO has nothing to do with proof. is this attack ford day?"
firstly, i have no idea what an "attack ford day" is.
secondly, I was adressing this quote:
"atheists have as much proof to their beliefs as christians do to theirs, etc"
and essentially tried to point out that atheists don't have "beliefs", but reasonable assumptions. I didn't try to "address the supposedly differing burdens of PROOF of religions". Sorry for that.
@guitarded_chuck "Then you (and they) are agnostic, by definition."
Atheists are people who believe there is no god (not many of them though) BUT ALSO the ones who *don't* believe there *is* god. So beefshoes wasn't wrong in his post. Agnostics are people who don't know if there is a god and/or don't care. It's in the first sentences on the wikipedia pages.
So @dbizzles I didn't say agnosticism and atheism are the same, but that that the difference, WHILE EXISTING, is not really big. |
evilford
06.09.15 | atheists do have beliefs, just like christians have beliefs. that is objective. which set of beliefs is more reasonable is a subjective, personal POV. so in that sense, I really think yes, atheists do have as much proof to their BELIEFS as christians do to theirs. whichever one of them is more reasonable to you is your own interpretation and stance on their beliefs and has no affect on the amount of proof either set of people have. |
altertide0
06.09.15 | Ok. What are these beliefs? (the ones that atheists have) |
evilford
06.09.15 | which beliefs |
altertide0
06.09.15 | what are the atheists' beliefs? |
insanedrexl1
06.09.15 | Agnostic |
evilford
06.09.15 | in the most simple form, atheism is the belief that there are no deities |
JWT155
06.09.15 | "what are the atheists' beliefs?"
That's like asking what are Christian beliefs, it's not uniform. |
evilford
06.09.15 | I mean there are a lot of definitions but to me that's the definition for atheism |
Alastor
06.09.15 | @JWT155: All Christians simply believe that Jesus is the son of god. Else they are not Christians. |
altertide0
06.09.15 | I think you misuse the word "believe". Believing is thinking something is true despite lack of evidence. This is religion. Atheism is precisely not that. |
altertide0
06.09.15 | Atheists "believe" in non-existence of god as much as they "believe" in non-existence of fairies. It's different from religious belief. |
Tunaboy45
06.09.15 | Pastafarian |
altertide0
06.09.15 | @sillycaringrabbitpal this is adressed to whom, actually? |
evilford
06.09.15 | "Atheists "believe" in non-existence of god as much as they "believe" in non-existence of fairies. It's different from religious belief."
how??????? |
altertide0
06.09.15 | @SillyCaringRabbit my assumption is based on this http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/The_Dragon_in_My_Garage |
evilford
06.09.15 | who cares what religion or group it's tied to? atheists believe in the non-existence of deities, and in the non-existence of fairies, christians believe that jesus was the son of god, I believe that chinese food is the best kind of food on the planet. these are all beliefs and whether they believe in something or specifically believe in the non-existence of something, they are both beliefs. I don't see the distinction here. |
evilford
06.09.15 | all of these things are things that someone BELIEVES to be true. just like my mom believes in God, just like I believe in compassion, just like lebron james believes he's the best basketball player in history, etc etc. all beliefs. |
altertide0
06.09.15 | @evilford actually read it too |
JWT155
06.09.15 | @Alastor - "All Christians simply believe that Jesus is the son of god. Else they are not Christians."
That's not entirely true, there are many congregations and sects that have differing opinions on Christ and his relative stance in regards to God and as a Savior.
My main point is that each most people's beliefs are way too diverse, even within an overarching term, to pigeon hole specific beliefs. |
evilford
06.09.15 | just like atheists believe that deities do not exist. also a belief, something that a group of people believe to be true. really struggling to find a significant difference here to warrant this argument |
Funeralopolis
06.09.15 | agnostic |
altertide0
06.09.15 | So basically you're saying that believing something that there is no evidence for exists is the same as not believing it exists? |
altertide0
06.09.15 | What atheists are using is occam's razor. It means that if something is very unlikely to exist it's more reasonable to assume that it doesn't. |
wacknizzle
06.09.15 | "if RabbitPal doesn't worship Frith then he's doing it wrong"
YES, you win 100 points for clever watership down reference |
altertide0
06.09.15 | This is why we assume that a man is not guilty until proven guilty and fairies don't exist even though there is no proof for their non-existence. true, this kind of thinking comes from logic and reason, not evidence, but reason is important too. |
JWT155
06.09.15 | That's a very loose definition of Occam's Razor. Occam's Razor refers more to the fact that the most accurate theory is the one that relies the least on assumptions. |
evilford
06.09.15 | @alter - NO OMFG those are obviously DIFFERENT BELIEFS IN THEMSELVES but how does the fact that christians believe that a god exists mean that atheists cannot believe that deities do not exist?????? this is the dumbest argument I've ever been in I'm done lol |
altertide0
06.09.15 | Well we have to be at least a little reasonable. If we exclude reason, then we have no point in believing in reality, as there is no evidence at all that it doesn't just exist in my mind. Or yours, in your case. |
altertide0
06.09.15 | @jwt155 yeah that wasn't a definition but rather a consequence of it. |
evilford
06.09.15 | REASON IS SUBJECTIVE. I.E. BELIEF |
altertide0
06.09.15 | @evilford well they can why not but most of them don't because it's unreasonable and yeah, let's stop there because i agree about the last thing :D |
altertide0
06.09.15 | @evilford let's just agree to disagree |
Ignimbrite
06.09.15 | Christian.
r/atheism circlejerk up in here |
guitarded_chuck
06.09.15 | burn your computer, dont let listen to the circlejerk |
altertide0
06.09.15 | Yeah, we're arguing, but it's a circle jerk anyway (y) |
Totengott
06.09.15 | Atheist. |
someguest
06.09.15 | Atheist/Taoist |
Ryus
06.09.15 | i am atheist |
evilford
06.09.15 | just for shits and giggles, Ryus, you say you are an atheist. does that mean you have a belief of some kind, and if so, what is it? :D |
MuhNamesTyler
06.09.15 | update this shit wtf |
Ryus
06.09.15 | it does mean i have a belief, just not in the same way as if i were religious. i believe in no deities, but it's not like atheism fits into my daily life like if i were christian or jewish or any other religion. it's a different type of belief than religion. |
Snake.
06.09.15 | atheist but born catholic |
evilford
06.09.15 | so they're different belief systems in nature but you still HAVE A BELIEF ok that's what I needed to know thank you have a nice evening |
rufinthefury
06.09.15 | so this blew up |
Sevengill
06.09.15 | Atheists "believe" in non-existence of god as much as they "believe" in non-existence of fairies. It's different from religious belief. [2] |
bach
06.09.15 | http://www.sputnikmusic.com/list.php?listid=159155
need your support guys |
evilford
06.09.15 | goodbye |
someguest
06.09.15 | It's not a belief. There is no god. The place god(s) lived is in books.
Taoism is reality. Everything is balance. The reason life moves forward is the opposing forces. |
evilford
06.09.15 | years ago two parents went out to dinner a few hours later the babysitter called and asked if she could cover up the clown statue in the kids room. The dad said "get the kids out of the house and we'll call the police. We don't have a... clown statue." the clown was actually a killer that escaped from prison 10 years ago. If u don't post this on ten photos, the clown will be in your bed with a chainsaw in his hand at 3:00 am
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altertide0
06.09.15 | I am the Sun. I'm a burning ball of fire. I'm very big indeed.
Life on earth depends on me. I am the Sun. |
NeroCorleone80
06.09.15 | I guess I'm an atheist, I just dont think about it. |
Psynuts
06.09.15 | im not religious but I respect mildly religious people, what they believe in is not my problem as long as they dont bother me with it. |
BlueSwan
06.09.15 | Catholic |
Strider
06.09.15 | What does that make you if you accept that the Olympian gods may exist? |
BlueSwan
06.09.15 | Stupid |
Lakes.
06.09.15 | i like evilford but he was retarded itt |
BlueSwan
06.09.15 | Father o'mally must have peed yogurt down Living's back at Jesus camp |
adr
06.09.15 | i'm satanist |
evilford
06.09.15 | Thanks |
BlueSwan
06.09.15 | No problem |
ElegantElephant
06.09.15 | bro how come you have jewish up there but not muslim |
ArsMoriendi
06.09.15 | It is kind of weird that Islam isn't on here when it's the 2nd most popular religion worldwide. |
erizen826
06.09.15 | atheist |
zaruyache
06.09.15 | "degree in religion from a private Baptist institution"
Well, that'd do it.
"The problem is ..nobody does that."
Pretty much. Jebus said that it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man enter heaven, and yet Christians now adays are all about their Gospels of Wealth and their megachurches and sending anti-gay propaganda to poor African countries. |
impoppy
06.09.15 | Eh, I believe in the Christian God, but think that humans have fucked up the bible beyond recognition, so I basically just believe in God and try to be a good human. I don't buy into all the anti-gay, guilt based bullshit Christian traditionalists push. |
alwaysright
06.09.15 | I believe in Panendeism |
rockandmetaljunkie
06.09.15 | grow tired of these threads tbh
atheist btw |
BlueSwan
06.09.15 | I believe in reading |
zakalwe
06.09.15 | Those who are 'religious' would you act any differently to how you do now if you were given 100% certifiable evidence that God doesn't and never did exist? |
evilford
06.09.15 | I believe that beliefs aren't really beliefs. How is that possible, you may ask? I don't know. |
zakalwe
06.09.15 | Stoner drivel |
KrazyKris
06.09.15 | zak, I don't see how that question is really important. |
zaruyache
06.09.15 | we're all stardust, man. Woah. |
zakalwe
06.09.15 | @NutterKris. Just to determine if people's actions are fundamentally governed by what they believe as opposed to what they honestly 'feel' |
EyesWideShut
06.09.15 | christian scientist |
Flugmorph
06.09.15 | agnostic |
KrazyKris
06.09.15 | If we're talking about really religious people then their actions are bound to be affected by their beliefs though. Religion gives you certain "guidelines" to live life in a proper way, so...
But we all do that actually. The big difference is that religious people follow some external rules (probably not only those), while other people draw their lines and define their own actions themselves. And even that isn't really true, unless you're a die-hard humanist. Because the way people judge certain behaviour and of course also their own stems mostly from their upbringing, social acceptance or laws.
At least that's how I'd look at it. The "source" of those guidelines that define good and bad might differ and one might be more questionable than the other, but the process is quite similar. |
zakalwe
06.10.15 | I agree, setting out the moral compass is what it's all about. I started to question God as an omnipresent, interventionist being when I was about 9 and started to realise it was bollocks but there was still an overriding sense of 'something' untill I was in me early 20s when I thought realistically if there was a god he's long since kicked the bucket. Leading on to where I find my self now thinking there never has been a God. However that initial upbringing of being told God was real, good and evil, an afterlife and so on planted something in me. I wonder if I'd act differently if straight off the bat I'd unquestionably never believed.
I probably would have in all honesty. |
Skoj
06.10.15 | Attack helicopter |
hikingmetalpunk
06.10.15 | poisonous taoist |
KrazyKris
06.10.15 | Safe bet. We all do.
For instance I woulnd't have the chuzpe to call myself a humanist, if there wouldn't be the concept of god (it doesn't get more arrogant on that matter, really). No matter, if one still believes or when he started to be critical about the whole stuff, the very existance of the idea of an almighty power has an impact. Simply cause one has to choose a way to react to it, deal with it and live with it.
There are definitely questions in my life I would have never asked myself, if there wouldn't be the idea of god everywhere. Even if my family wasn't all that religious, it's still something that comes up sooner or later.
Not to mention that ones parents being religious can have quite an effect on their way to raise their children too. |
zakalwe
06.10.15 | I see on the sexuality census you've put yourself down as bi-curious/questioning. Fancy a shag? |
KrazyKris
06.10.15 | That's a really interesting question you asked there, but I'm afraid I have an important meeting starting in 2 mins and can't answer that properly..... |
Mutantsnowstorm
06.10.15 | Christian, fairly liberal in my beliefs though |
DamnVanne
06.10.15 | anyone ever had any experience with someone of the baha'i faith? |
someguest
06.10.15 | baha'i blast |
DamnVanne
06.10.15 | tastes like pocket sand and rolling tobacco |
someguest
06.10.15 | smoked salmon |
WilhelmBlack
06.10.15 | Humanist |
BlueSwan
06.10.15 | Yes zak if there was no point to life/no god I would become a tree-cutter |
Ebola
06.10.15 | soooo I spend the afternoon with my girlfriend and I come back to 250 FUCKING COMMENTS
Gonna go take a shower, then will get to work compiling all the responses. Thank you so much for your interest! |
evilford
06.10.15 | read the comments I'm retarded |
Ebola
06.10.15 | Also added Islam because I totally forgot to put it on in the first place, my bad. |
Dis_Con_Nec_Ted
06.10.15 | Anti-religious and agnostic are conflicting with me. I think all religion is bullshit (some more than others. /looks east) but at the same time I'd like to think there might be a higher spiritual power. |
evilford
06.10.15 | I'd suck a dick |
evilford
06.10.15 | if it's someone I liked for sure |
evilford
06.10.15 | oh wrong thread oh well |
zaruyache
06.10.15 | all hail the mighty fellatio |
Ryus
06.10.15 | lol |
evilford
06.10.15 | my religion is fellatio I go to Weiner Blowjob church |
Ebola
06.10.15 | evilford for worst sputnik user 2k15 |
Ebola
06.10.15 | Time to start compiling this shit.
Fml |
evilford
06.10.15 | no I'm a good user cries |
hal1ax
06.10.15 | agnostic |
hal1ax
06.10.15 | somedays pantheistic. rarely |
YakNips
06.10.15 | if you wont put me down for chumbawamba at least put me down for cream soda |
Mister Twister
06.10.15 | Secular humanism |
ArsMoriendi
06.10.15 | Ebola, you forgot to put me under atheist... |
mandan
06.10.15 | Throw me in with the Agnostics. |
Evreaia
06.10.15 | Pretty surprised to see so little LaVeyan Satanists here, many could agree on its vision to be honest (and no, it has jack-shit to do with "the devil"). |
RadicalEd
06.10.15 | Agnostic. |
emester
06.10.15 | To just expand on my beliefs, i do not believe in a higher power or god but i do hold jewish values. |
SCREAM!
06.10.15 | "Pretty surprised to see so little LaVeyan Satanists here, many could agree on its vision to be honest (and no, it has jack-shit to do with "the devil")."
1. It's hardly a religion as it's basically just a form of atheism
2. Its whole "alpha" ideology isn't a particularly viable way of life
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Friday13th
06.10.15 | Ebola my man, there's still every non-atheist you need to count up. |
SharkTooth
06.10.15 | ^^like wtf Ebola? |
Lowder91bird
06.10.15 | I'm a Secular Humanist. |
Ovrot
06.10.15 | I worship the riff and nothing else. |
chemicalmarriage
06.10.15 | Active member of the church of the flying spaghetti monster |
deathschool
06.10.15 | Oh, Satanist is an option now. I'll take that one |
hal1ax
06.10.15 | wait i want to change to attack helicopter |
Ebola
06.10.15 | Good morning, everybody! Gonna finish everything right now. |
Ebola
06.10.15 | FINISHED! Hit me up if I messed something up |
Alastor
06.10.15 | haha, why'd you choose Camel for Islam |
evilford
06.10.15 | lol |
ElegantElephant
06.10.15 | bc best religion needs best album
the above statement is not meant to be interpreted as a serious remark |
Feather
06.10.15 | Can you change the album art on #6 (polytheist) to boys Like Girls self titled album. I am the only one in that category and that CD embodies who I am as a person tbh. |
DikkoZinner
06.10.15 | Satan m/ |
InFlamesWeThrash666
06.10.15 | Atheist,if God exists he is an asshole. |
Ebola
06.10.15 | @Alastor Because I'm an asshole
@ElegantElephant Actually a really damn good album
@Feather Sure |
ElegantElephant
06.10.15 | i couldnt be more pleased with Mirage being representative of islam here |
zaruyache
06.10.15 | LaVeyanism is also kind of chauvenistic, isn't it? It's a pretty pointless 'religion' now adays. Satanic Temple (secular humanism) >>>>> LaVey |
DamnVanne
06.10.15 | Feather, can you be more specific? What about the album relates to you? |
YourDarkAffected
06.10.15 | christian |
Calc
06.10.15 | scientologist. |
zaruyache
06.11.15 | are you really |
bungy
06.11.15 | Mormon bitches |
deathschool
06.11.15 | are you really |
melnadaiid
06.11.15 | does kanye west count as a religion be,a use if so then that |
Minushuman24
06.11.15 | agnostic leaning a liiiiiiiiiiiil catholic
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erizen826
06.11.15 | Should've put The Satanist as the album for the Satanist column. |
Calc
06.11.15 | yeh really put me down fuker |
Relinquished
06.11.15 | put me down for Odin worshipper |
EyesWideShut
06.11.15 | nice to see Calc is a fellow Scientologist.
Maybe he can confirm the rumor that Travolta took groups of Scientologists on a field trip to see Battlefield Earth to fill up the theaters. |
EyesWideShut
06.11.15 | Yeezus |
mandan
06.11.15 | I'm specifically an Agnostic Pantheist atm. I believe there may be a force of sorts out there, but I wouldn't claim I know it's there. I just think it might be there.
Quite a fair share of Agnostics around btw. |
Ebola
06.11.15 | scientology is not a religion fam
@bungy Sorry if this sounds offensive (it's not meant to be), but was that sarcastic or do you actually identify with the Mormon faith?
also removing the Boys Like Girls album because I'm an asshole |
Aftertheascension
06.11.15 | at least you changed the christian album to something that is actually good. |
bungy
06.11.15 | I actually am |
someguest
06.11.15 | utah? don't look that tall to me |
rufinthefury
06.11.15 | I'm with you dannyboy89 pretty similar beliefs. |
someguest
06.11.15 | "I'm the big, stupid idiot? You're the big, stupid idiot!" |
bungy
06.11.15 | not utah.
we are not all the same i promise |
someguest
06.11.15 | they've even brainwashed the rabbits |
bungy
06.11.15 | we will rule the world |
Crymsonblaze
06.11.15 | I'm a strong atheist. Anti-theist, actually, but atheist is fine for the purposes of the census |
Feather
06.11.15 | @DamnVanne Its lyrics speak to me. |
YoYoMancuso
06.11.15 | Christian |
Calc
06.11.15 | "scientology is not a religion fam"
fuk off with your fam you aint kendrik and I'm offended. |
Feather
06.11.15 | pastafarian |
Crymsonblaze
06.11.15 | Also people don't seem to understand the atheism vs. agnosticism thing.
"Agnostic" is not a belief, it's a state of knowledge. All it means when you say you're agnostic is that you don't know if there's a higher power or not.
Every single person on the planet is agnostic. If you say you're gnostic, you're a psycho. No exceptions.
Everyone is either an agnostic atheist or an agnostic theist. Either you believe in something or you don't. You can't really "kinda" believe in something.
But either way, there is pretty much no evidence whatsoever for a higher power which is why I am an atheist. There's no real need to specify the "agnostic" part of that because it kind of goes without saying that nobody would be stupid enough to be gnostic and say "I know this for a fact without having seen all the evidence". And that goes for both sides of the argument. |
AmericanFlagAsh
06.11.15 | Yeah I'm totally agnostic atheist
But then again saying I'm atheist seems limiting just like religion is. My big problem is closed mindedness with beliefs. If a god presents himself/herself, then I'm down. However, I am for sure not following some damn book. |
SCREAM!
06.11.15 | "it kind of goes without saying that nobody would be stupid enough to be gnostic and say "I know this for a fact without having seen all the evidence". "
Plenty of people do exactly that though |
Crymsonblaze
06.11.15 | "Plenty of people do exactly that though"
" If you say you're gnostic, you're a psycho. No exceptions." |
Crymsonblaze
06.11.15 | "But then again saying I'm atheist seems limiting just like religion is."
Atheism allows for a flexibility that fundamentalism does not. You can change your beliefs as needed as new evidence appears. Whether or not that includes a god is yet to be seen, but it's a freedom that evangelicals are not privy to. |
LoLifant
06.11.15 | Church of Diarrhoe
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zaruyache
06.11.15 | atheism isn't a position so much as it is the state of *lacking* a position. I don't ride horses so I'm an a-equestrian--the fact that I've designated my non-horse-riding-ness doesn't actually define anything positive about my existence other than my not doing some thing for some reason(s), and the fact that I've had to designate myself an a-equestrian is itself a bit ridiculous, but ultimately necessary in a largely equestrian-populated society. |
FirstStrikeIsDeadly
06.11.15 | agnostic reporting in
kinda wish i was still a deist just so i could identify with 9 though, that album rules m/ |
Crymsonblaze
06.11.15 | "the fact that I've had to designate myself an a-equestrian is itself a bit ridiculous, but ultimately necessary in a largely equestrian-populated society."
Nailed it with this bit. |
Pheromone
05.12.22 | bump |