PurpleBottle: Depression's A Bitch

PurpleBottle 04.11.14	ohandialsowriteallaboutitontheinternetandthendon'tspeaktopeoplelikeanormalhumanbeing
Tunaboy45 04.11.14	Depression is indeed a bitch
JS19 04.11.14	Dude, I am sort of there with you at the moment. Depression is a weird one, but you don't let it beat you. Are you seeing someone to talk about it atm? Cos that's like a super important thing for me
ti0n 04.11.14	just punch depression in its ugly face and fuck it
Relinquished 04.11.14	we prey for you
MO 04.11.14	"ohandialsowriteallaboutitontheinternetandthendon'tspeaktopeoplelikeanormalhumanbeing" nice at least you know your problem!
guitarded_chuck 04.11.14	mid-twenties is a hard fucking time
anarchistfish 04.11.14	chemicals in your brain, get help man
guitarded_chuck 04.11.14	do you exercise? i find myself slipping back into this if i don't consistently.
titanslayer 04.11.14	see a doctor
ti0n 04.11.14	"see a doctor" good joke pal
Dunwich 04.11.14	I stroke my cock a lot. You could say I'm depressed.
Mongi123 04.11.14	I've been there bro. I think I still am tbh, keep your head up high and get help. I got help and it's starting to work. Never be afraid to get help for it because there are people that are trained to help you with this sort of shit.
danielcardoso 04.11.14	"Depression's A Bitch" Yes, it is. Write a song about it. Really. It helps, if you're honest.
Avagantamos 04.11.14	I hate depression too. I got prescribed an antidepressant but I don't take them.
guitarded_chuck 04.11.14	talking to someone can totally help i was going through one of the worst depressive periods of my life around age 15, went to a psychologist for two sessions of less than 30 mins, completely changed my perspective and more or less enjoyed the rest of my public school days.
ferociouslettuce 04.11.14	i listen to people. i spend too much time listening to people. they're wrong a lot of the time (more often than i am), but i'm a sucker for well-meaning persons that believes in themselves. the ability to believe in myself is something i've lacked since age 14. things got Tricky -- i learned to use others' confidence by piggy backing and occasionally by pulling out the rug beneath them. i've spent the better part of the last 4 years convinced there was something wrong with me. i was egged on and pushed at til i broke -- and i did so as publicly as possible for attention even though that's not something i'm comfortable with. i'm in the dark all around me. weird shit keeps following me around (not paranoid -- paranoid would imply people are out to get me). and, now broken, there seems to be an understanding. 'oh, that makes sense, that's reasonable'. but then was it always? (re: thc, correlation != causation. a different frame of mind is sometimes a help, sometimes a hindrance)
Propose 04.11.14	Yea see a therapist but don't expect to see results quickly.
Mongi123 04.11.14	Honestly, just laying down your burdens and learning about yourself helps a lot. I learned stuff about myself I never would have even touched on without help. I'm still not perfect, but I think I'm finally ready to actually put myself out there and meet people. Like Propose said, you don't always see results quickly, it takes time.
steveaoki 04.11.14	"you're lonely that's your problem" "maybe you should change jobs" "leave new york, it's bad for you" "you should take pills" "do you have enough friends?" "stop going on the internet" "try new hobbies" "stop thinking about IT" (5 min later)"stop thinking about IT" (how when you keep reminding me?) "call your family" (fuck that they don't recognize the person I am)
Tunaboy45 04.11.14	I used to feel helpless and lonely. Exercise did the trick.
KILL 04.11.14	"I'm good looking, in my mid twenties, successful, have lots of friends, have a steady job, girls consistently flick their hair" delusion is ur prob most likely
Tunaboy45 04.11.14	"I stroke my cock a lot. You could say I'm depressed." I did that a lot when I was depressed and I do it now. It has nothing to do with depression, I'm pretty sure every guy does it.
PurpleBottle 04.11.14	i've been seeing a therapist -- she's helpful. more than anything, i'm burnt out. there's too much on my mind and i'm too paralyzed to do anything
Tunaboy45 04.11.14	^ I know exactly how you feel man.
MO 04.11.14	go out and breathe the air, soak up the sun and do shit outside. cures all
PurpleBottle 04.11.14	'delusion is ur prob most likely' just trying to psych myself out of depression. gorgeous, happy, friendly office girl got in my face the other day and told me i missed my chance. (sigh) i know you're trolling butstill
KILL 04.11.14	dude cmon i look like cris kirkwood but you dont see me moping about feeling sorry for myself i mean try listening to thrash or something, all that animal collective crap aint helpin ur ass
Tunaboy45 04.11.14	He's a troll fuck him. MO is right.
PurpleBottle 04.11.14	i honestly think i just need to cry for a while -- flush that shit out my system
deathschool 04.11.14	I don't think this is the best place to seek sympathy, friend, but everyone saying that you should just get out and do something can go fuck themselves because it's not always that simple.
KILL 04.11.14	yes Tunaboy45 has great advise on life listen to him
Tunaboy45 04.11.14	Crying can help but it's not the best thing to do.
deathschool 04.11.14	It is worth trying though.
EvoHavok 04.11.14	It's never that simple, but people tend to suggest stuff like that all the same. Better than harassing him, after all.
PurpleBottle 04.11.14	not seeking sympathy whatsoever. there's more things in my life to envy than to pity. nd this thread actually helped me, which is moderately shocking. i was just going to air out all my problems in writing (nd referenced so i could look back) shit's dark. i dunno. i swirled a tornado around myself then said 'oops'
PurpleBottle 04.11.14	kill's probly been the most helpful person itt . the absurdities are reassuring
Tunaboy45 04.11.14	Well that's good then.
guitarded_chuck 04.11.14	legit the only thing that keeps me sane is lifting weights until i feel like im gonna die 3-4 times a week then going home and eating a huge healthy meal good for the self esteem, good for energy levels, and most of all, it gives you time away from your thoughts and is an excellent stress release take all your emotions out on your lifts this is all v srs btw
RVAHC13 04.11.14	I agree with those who say exercise, it really does get your life on track and gives you more energy. Plus you're losing weight and building muscle mass which can build up your confidence.
PurpleBottle 04.11.14	'clinical depression' is a myth (unpopular opinion). seeing a doctor is sometimes the Worst thing you can do. the most traumatic 2 weeks of my life came about as a result of a bunch of medicate the fuck out of you Quacks. i haven't let myself get excited since 2011. also haven't exercised much at all cause rise of heart rate, which hasn't been a problem recently but ~worn out~
Nocturnal 04.11.14	Move to china. Become a monk.
PurpleBottle 04.11.14	time is the equalizer
MO 04.11.14	"but everyone saying that you should just get out and do something can go fuck themselves because it's not always that simple." fuck you too then asshole. I've seen friends who were depressed because they thought they were at a stand still in life and and that shit was going all wrong. one of the best things they did to overcome it was go out and discover new things. obviously it's not the absolute cure but it helps, dick.
Tunaboy45 04.11.14	Yeah I think regular depression and clinical depression are the same thing. Medication is often down to the placebo effect.
thepaintedalice 04.11.14	I too have depression dude, its a bitch. Top things I've heard: "You should work out." check "You should fall in love." check, doesn't help. "If its causing you to have insomnia you should take sleeping pills or melatonin, thatll help" check, doesn't. "talk to a shrink" no. Its like an endless cycle of shit that doesn't help. I feel for you man
Calc 04.11.14	I'm the opposite of most of these symptoms and I'm easily the happiest person I've seen...humans are weird.
PurpleBottle 04.11.14	i've been prescribed abilify (gave me akathesia), had haldol forced down my throat (had a seizure, almost died), depakote (very drowsy and lethargic), mirtazapine (kinda helpful for sleep but verry drowsy), klonopin (nice knock out punch) my sister's on lexapro i think. the trick may be simply to like yourself. and well, i unjustifiably consider myself to be worthless
MO 04.11.14	agreed Calc gotta make yourself happy with your life
DikkoZinner 04.11.14	Yoga
Tunaboy45 04.11.14	MO is right. For me it wasn't so much the depression but social anxiety constantly crippling me. That then caused depression. I then tried to do things to make myself feel better. Trying to do things was prevented by my social anxiety. It was a vicious cycle.
PurpleBottle 04.11.14	hyperb -- spend a week and a half in a hospital and don't believe everything that you read (also i did that -- it seems most everything's a theory). behavioral modification is very hit and miss. each brain is different. meds may help some people, but i'm certainly not one of them not solving, just venting. was actually surprised anyone responded. plus kill telling me anco sucks has thrust anco in my earbuds. music therapy ++
PurpleBottle 04.11.14	over-diagnosed at best
YakNips 04.11.14	listen to iwrotehaikusaboutcannibalisminyouryearbook seriously
Tunaboy45 04.11.14	Asnidereturns- [2]
Riviere 04.11.14	Exercise helped me a lot but it's still a grind it's weird feeling like you want to off yourself and then sleep it off and feel fine. Sometimes I don't know if social anxiety is the cause of it, or if it's there in spite of it. I look at people in public and sometimes think they're not even real until I touch them like they're something abstract, think about the jobs they have and the lives they lead and wonder what the point of mine is.
Calc 04.11.14	I enjoy these threads.
chemicalmarriage 04.11.14	i didn't watch my buddies die face down in the mud for you to be depressed
Wafflez 04.11.14	Cut your hair and join Count Your Lucky Stars C:
DikkoZinner 04.11.14	100 pushups 100 situps
panagiotis 04.11.14	I did not experience one but my girlfriend had (for a good reason) and we went through it. She overcame it gradually via support from family and friends understanding and some phychotherapy. Gradually building a routine. No drugs for her case. Friend mate that's the most important thing and stop listening to Radiohead, they are great but they are not for the moment. Try some in your face death metal ;)
MO 04.11.14	"I enjoy these threads." cause it makes you feel great eh ;)
JS19 04.11.14	A bunch of entitled 17 year old white kids is for sure the best people to talk to when you need help dude /s. Seriously, get off Sput and go talk to a professional and you'll start seeing something like progress eventually. Shoutbox me if you want a chat or anything
Calc 04.11.14	"cause it makes you feel great eh ;)" no, I gain no pleasure from people being sad, I don't even really believe the guy is depressed I just like the complete flip-flop in the users' tone as they give their advice
BMDrummer 04.11.14	Don't worry about anything when it comes to depression, just remind yourself of why you're happy with yourself and your life.
someguest 04.11.14	Self doubt and insecurity are the marks of an intelligent man. Most likely you're good looking and able to get any woman you want if you throw a little confidence into the mix. Revel in your existence, my friend!
Trebor. 04.11.14	I'm trying to play music and exercise more
Uranium 04.11.14	i've been depressed off and on my whole life but ive always refused the idea of medication because i rather be depressed than pharmaceutically medicated
someguest 04.11.14	Art, music, learning about other cultures (seeing how easy you have it!), a little alcohol, women, and an appreciation of the things around you are some of the keys to holding onto your sanity.
Trebor. 04.11.14	girls idk man I cuddled with this chick two nights ago and it was great but it made me more lonely after you know, kind of like getting a small fix of a drug you're addicted to and then having it yanked from you versus just getting over it
someguest 04.11.14	But that's totally the joy of it.
Trebor. 04.11.14	I dig her but she has a boyfriend and I don't want to pull a someguest though
someguest 04.11.14	I don't have any regrets.
ScarlettPimpernail 04.11.14	Good thread.
ArsMoriendi 04.11.14	Amnesiac is an excellent album. Also, this might be a weird take, but try changing your diet. Often, the food you eat affects the chemicals in your brain. Fruits, vegetables, and chocolate are mood boosters. Basically anything healthy in general.
DikkoZinner 04.11.14	Watch some Eric Roberts movies. Proven remedy.
Wolfhorde 04.11.14	The issue with things such as depression is that things aren't as simple as "THE depression". Depression can stem from a number of different origins - each of which require different treatment. Then you have the issue that medication usually only takes effect after ~6 weeks and that some/a lot of trial and error might be required in order to find something that works for a specific individual - variance in this area is gargantuan. (in part because of the aforementioned variability in origin and in part because we're still not entirely down on how these medications work specifically) I also don't think because someone has a "mental health issue" that we need to patronize them - in fact, I think that just makes the situation worse. If there is some possibly valuable takeaway from something somebody said - take it. Where it came from isn't necessarily that relevant. Then there's the case that no type of "assistance" - which is what therapy basically is - will go all the way. At the end of the day, it's up to how in how one handles the situation. There is such a thing as (perceived) locus of control which can have vast influences on your beliefs, mood and behavior. I would recommend the constructive route - of course, there are also the options of suicide and wrecking your life but these don't seem so dandy if you ask me. In that sense, trial and error - nobody said this kind of stuff is easy (or if someone does, he's an idiot) - some may have to work through a lot of stuff to find something that ultimately works for them. Although there have been some valuable points here. Physical exercise/activity certainly has its benefits - which can also help with energy levels (unless you have some other kind of issue in that area), hormone regulation and all that shazam. If you've tried it already but didn't like I'd recommend revisiting it and trying to find something that works for you. (of course under the condition that you don't go in creating a self-fulfilling prophecy) Not all types are created equal. Much like booze. I also wouldn't necessarily dismiss the notion that all of this "hey, my life is super awesome" may, in one way or another - be related to the issue. Be it as rationalization, as compensation mechanism or something else. Who knows. Doesn't have to be, doesn't mean it's not possible though.
EvoHavok 04.11.14	^Nice post and wow this thread is having some success.
Uranium 04.11.14	lol flutta :>
Phlegm 04.11.14	loving my life atm wbu guys
PurpleBottle 04.11.14	"learning about other cultures" -- lived in northern ghana (like Off grid) for 6 months butyea i'm a huge hypocrite. and honestly some of this stems from that. it's frightening when i eat meat off of a bone and throw it away and several ravenous 8 year old boys attack it. yet they're generally happier than many overprivileged beverly hills mansionited who kick and scream til they're given everything they demand. "and girls" -- haven't had one in 2014 against the most retardedly stacked deck against that happening lol yea wolf there is no 1 size fits all. my life's been pretty incredible but i'm stuck in negative feedback loops that have been completely paralyzing me of late
twlight 04.11.14	you're a bitch
PurpleBottle 04.11.14	yessir and you're depth connection
Wolfhorde 04.12.14	"yea wolf there is no 1 size fits all. my life's been pretty incredible but i'm stuck in negative feedback loops that have been completely paralyzing me of late" That is all nice and dandy but what do you plan to do about it? When do you plan to start? I would also urge you not trying to rationalize things away - e.g. given the circumstances this "shouldn't be" a problem or something of the like. That's failing to realize the the scope of the issue. I can also tell you right now, the more you spend time "being paralyzed" the harder it's gonna get getting something and most likely the longer it's gonna take.
skeames1214 04.12.14	try helping people, it'll help you. be a part of positive communities. volunteer instead of crying on a couch. you can do that too sometimes, but it's not all that productive of an activity.
JS19 04.12.14	God you people are stupid
Sleaper 04.12.14	you sound unbelievably arrogant and thats probably why ur depressed. come back down to earth with everyone else and you will be fine.
Sleaper 04.12.14	anyway, the way i deal with it is by setting goals for myself. when you reach it, set another. its better mentally to be delusional than realistic.
JS19 04.12.14	Like I said, OP asked a bunch of entitled 20 year olds to help, how can be surprised he's getting people telling him it's his fault he's depressed and shit like that. God you people are stupid [234567678]
Wolfhorde 04.12.14	And you think you're better by pointing out how everybody else is at fault? (and overgeneralizing in the process) Yep, makes perfect sense. It must be fun being a hypocrite.
JS19 04.12.14	lol
Keyblade 04.12.14	Good response
StrangerofSorts 04.12.14	I don't remember who wrote it (kind of embarrassing), but there's a continental philosopher who wrote a really influential pamphlet about why we shouldn't be so recklessly ambitious. It starts off by saying that unhappiness comes from the disconnect between who we are or where we are and who/where we want to be. I've always liked to link this with Kiekegaard's view of the very same separation being what makes us human in the first place (contemporary analytic philosophers like Franklin and to some extent Strawson would agree). I don't agree with the sadness=being human thing entirely, but it's a nice thought when depression looks like a life-long companion. I mean, I feel isolated (irrationally, my situation's similar to yours but I'm still at university) from other people and even my own emotions: I kind of shut my consciousness away. This all breaks down when I'm utterly miserable because in those moments I'm absolutely immersed in the human condition. Being sad isn't in itself a bad thing, though being sad all the time is pretty shit. My therapist once asked me where I want to be on a happiness scale from 1 to 10 and I said 6, which is apparently the most common response. Don't really have any advice to give, but sticking with Kierkegaard I associated myself a lot with the more reflective form of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_Soren_Kierkegaard#Stage_One:_Aesthetic
anarchistfish 04.12.14	"It starts off by saying that unhappiness comes from the disconnect between who we are or where we are and who/where we want to be." As in perfectionism? Surely not the only possible cause of depression, though a common one
StrangerofSorts 04.12.14	not exactly- you don't necessarily want to be perfect. You can read it as just being uncomfortable with your lot. Didn't want that to be the focus though, people have been arguing over it for time.
Faraudo 04.12.14	Go on a trip all by yourself, and far away from home, to another fucking continent or something. I'm from México, and I was really, really fucked up with depression issues so what I did is I bought a plane ticket to Europe, and I traveled for 2 months all by myself, across several european countries. I kinda needed to get away from everything, I needed to be all by myself, to know other cultures, to fucking walk entire cities in a day, and to clear my head by being alone in a completely unknown place. And you know what? It worked like a motherfucker, I came back to my hometown with a completely new mindset, and with a sudden joy of living. I can't really explain what happened to me there, but it worked.
Faraudo 04.12.14	I know it's not that easy to travel like that, because you spend a lot of money. But if you can affort it, go ahead and do it. If you can't, then save some cash and do it at some point, it really helps out a lot.
aok 04.12.14	cute thread guys. i think there's more grownup problems at bay here that aren't exactly 'solvable' by teenage optimism (though it's still good to hear) -- time is the equalizer and op is clearly burnt out. op owns a house, can't just leave and run away for a few months at a time, though he has in the past as he says in the thread so there's plenty of perspective that has been gained there (ironically time not money is the limiting factor with regards to doing so again). op didn't ask for advice, though shockingly ASnideReturns and a few others had some really compelling and uplifting comments to make. Wolf and some of the others kindof missed the point but they mean well so (much love). also think it's funny how many people called tyler out for 'asking advice' in a music forum when he actually was pretty clearly just venting. lolilovesputnikthoforreal
JS19 04.12.14	This thread is hilarious
ffs 04.12.14	kill as many other humans as possible and then yourself
LambsBread 04.12.14	Double post. Omg im so depressed now
LambsBread 04.12.14	'Im good looking, young, rich, and have not mentioned any tragedies in my life that I should be upset about.' WHY ME??? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Dude get a fucking grip. If you wan't my honest advice you have been chasing a delusion your entire life thinking money (and what follows from money IE shallow yet good looking women throwing themselves at you) would make you happy not realizing the means you took to achieve these ends made you a backstabbing cunt and you can't live with the guilt of supporting an ecomomic system that causes mass suicide in the third world. First thing you need to do is stop feeling sorry for yourself because its absolutely pathetic. Second thing you need to do is download KRS-One's and/or MF Grimm's discography and start manning up. KRS-One will show you how pathetic you are being and MF Grimm will show you what you have to be thankful for. Also go outside and get some sun (you need vitamin D badly to avoid dementia), do yoga (questionably smoke weed if you don't have an addictive personality), read and spend time around kids. Gaurantee you will feel better if you do everything I said, but I doubt you will. Heres a KRS and MF Grimm song I think will help you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrcxzmoZGQk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdc0X4FA05g
LambsBread 04.12.14	Sorry if that came across as harsh but sometimes thats what it takes you know
Snake. 04.12.14	hillary either doesn't know how depression works or doesn't believe in it
LambsBread 04.12.14	or he has overcome it.
JS19 04.12.14	This thread is hilarious [2]
ArsMoriendi 04.12.14	I don't know about KRS-One part, but the sunlight/yoga/be around kids thing sounds good.
YoYoMancuso 04.12.14	This skips generations in my family, me and my sister both have it, and I agree with Tyler medications do nothing for me so it's a really loaded issue
aok 04.13.14	When you're in a situation like the tuition protests at the COOPER UNION that has such a blisteringly obvious first step towards progress (30-70% of board of trustees members should be forcibly retired for negligence), and when you point that out you're called a rambling mad man, yea dude shit gets depressing after a while