fallenbird: Are There Any More Genres To Be Discovered Or Created

fallenbird 03.23.14	Nothing is completely original anymore is it?
NordicMindset 03.23.14	Space metal.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 03.23.14	'space metal' has been around for like 30 years
fallenbird 03.23.14	Crunkjazz
Lord(e)Po)))ts 03.23.14	all those swedish melodic dm bands all they friggin sing about is space, and then the wave of post-metal bands that only ever sing about space so yeah.
StrangerofSorts 03.23.14	edit: nahhh
fallenbird 03.23.14	SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCE
Lord(e)Po)))ts 03.23.14	in answer to this list genres aren't discovered they are created and yes there will always be new genres to create as we progress and new technology and instruments and theories are developed
tempest-- 03.23.14	of course there will be but we don't know what it is or what it will sound like because it hasn't been created yet "We as people of a society rhave been accustomed to change" incorrect, people are always frightened of change it is human nature
Hyperion1001 03.23.14	probably, but it hasnt been created yet so we dont know
NordicMindset 03.23.14	Crunk-jazz
Lord(e)Po)))ts 03.23.14	"incorrect, people are always frightened of change it is human nature" that is a more accurate generalization than the statement you corrected for sure but there are exceptions
Lord(e)Po)))ts 03.23.14	also as much as i agree from a general standpoint i definitely wouldn't go as far as to say that its human nature
fallenbird 03.23.14	It is human nature to fear change but if you look at how much shock value there was to the incarnation of Rock and Roll and compare it to anything new that comes out now... Lately the world changes around us so much at such a rapid rate that you cannot have the same feeling of "What the f*** is that?".
TwigTW 03.23.14	There will always be new genres, as long as there are kids who don’t want to listen to the same music their parents listened to.
tempest-- 03.23.14	yea, certainly there are exceptions, but as a generalisation
ChuckyTruant 03.23.14	trying to come up with a new genre is like trying to imagine a color that we don't already know. it just happens man, just like everything else music will always evolve.
fallenbird 03.23.14	I like the music my parents listen to so I'm pretty sure that I will not be one of those kids.
Greyvy 03.23.14	this website needs a power electronics tag
silentstar 03.23.14	music is dead
fallenbird 03.23.14	Death is music
StallionMang 03.23.14	I will not be satisfied until I have blackened trip-hop gaze
NordicMindset 03.23.14	Black pop
TwigTW 03.23.14	@fallenbird: I do too, but it is just the way things go.
fallenbird 03.23.14	Blackstep
KriegdemKriege 03.23.14	Of course.
Ryus 03.23.14	there's an infinite combination of fusion genres to be created, like dub-ragtime discocore or awful shit like that
Funeralopolis 03.23.14	With the trend of terrible instrumental music like Animals As Leaders smeared like a stain across the underwear of the music scene people will start to realize that jazz is the trve instrumental music and it will make a giant comeback.
fallenbird 03.23.14	I want a genre based around the harp and melotron!!
Judio! 03.23.14	The answer to this question: http://www.sputnikmusic.com/list.php?memberid=1027648&listid=131084
zakalwe 03.23.14	An amalgamation of styles will soon come round giving rise to a new movement/genre and it will all undoubtedly be total shite.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 03.23.14	"It is human nature to fear change but if you look at how much shock value there was to the incarnation of Rock and Roll and compare it to anything new that comes out now... Lately the world changes around us so much at such a rapid rate that you cannot have the same feeling of "What the f*** is that?"." nah dude. you can't know that. you can hypothesize that it is in human nature to fear change but thats just a theory that you can never prove. im not saying i disagree, id need to sit down and critically think about it for a while so im undecided im just saying there is no way to know that as a fact. i know im being nitpicky but i think its important to emphasize unknowns as "i believe ____" instead of "it is ____"
fallenbird 03.23.14	@LordPots I respect your well thought out words.
climactic 03.23.14	"With the trend of terrible instrumental music like Animals As Leaders" stop
Lord(e)Po)))ts 03.23.14	cheers dude. damn philosophy classes just make me think about things like that more than maybe i should lol, it may seem trivial to some, i get that
fallenbird 03.23.14	I still want that Harp-Melotrone genre, maybe it should also have some sitar work.
BMDrummer 03.23.14	Blackgaze, it's been pointed to by Deafheaven and Alcest.
fallenbird 03.23.14	Philosophy and Psychology classes are trippy man
Lord(e)Po)))ts 03.23.14	"I still want that Harp-Melotrone genre, maybe it should also have some sitar work." i like the sound of that lol "Blackgaze, it's been pointed to by Deafheaven and Alcest." dude 'blackgaze' is just friggin shoegazy post-rock/metal stuff with black metal influences, its hardly new. mono was doin that in 2000. besides, influencing one subgenre with another subgenre is hardly the invention of a new genre, its just 'innovation' at best
Veldin 03.23.14	Post-future science pop
Lord(e)Po)))ts 03.23.14	"Philosophy and Psychology classes are trippy man" phil goes both ways for me, some classes are endlessly fascinating and some are awful but i just take those as electives, im in pre-social work so my course load is mostly the arts (as opposed to sciences) side of psychology which is goddamn fascinating
fallenbird 03.23.14	I came up with this question because I'm watching a Syd Barrett documentary since Syd's Pink Floyd sorta popularized if not created that psychedelic style of music.
Onirium 03.23.14	Jazz metal
Greyvy 03.23.14	is deafheaven black metal? y/n discuss.
Azn. 03.23.14	nu-crunk
fallenbird 03.23.14	My classes are mostly filled with fine arts and music or popular music history. also psychology and science.
fallenbird 03.23.14	"Nu-Crunk" sounds so bad it must be great.
Azn. 03.23.14	of course it could also just be really really bad
fallenbird 03.23.14	Be optimistic man
Lord(e)Po)))ts 03.23.14	@fallenbird nice, i took a year of visual arts then switched to pre-social work would like to take a 2 year sound engineering course at some point
Lord(e)Po)))ts 03.23.14	dont be an asshole ghostfriend
fallenbird 03.23.14	Yet Dubstep's popularity died within a year so yeah... Plus it's only a subgenre of Electronica.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 03.23.14	you are missing the point entirely anyway so stop being a douche
fallenbird 03.23.14	"don't be an asshole ghostfriend" [2]
fallenbird 03.23.14	LordPots you are a cool dude
AnimalsAsSummit 03.23.14	pretty much any experimental or avant-garde music is genre transcendent if done right
fallenbird 03.23.14	Music is music. I'm done.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 03.23.14	its not like you said "people go 'what the fuck' and then never warm up to it ever and hate change and never come to embrace it", it was pretty clear that you were just saying that people are at first unsure about change and unsettled by it and you are on point in that, contrary to spookynewghostfriends belief, before dubstep blew up people definitely went "what the bloody fuck???" for a minute.
Azn. 03.23.14	animals...as...summit....
oltnabrick 03.23.14	http://goropsy6.bandcamp.com/ check this out
SharkTooth 03.23.14	black polka post-house housecore postcore nu-house nu-polka black polka hair dubstep
Greyvy 03.23.14	real trill shit
Azn. 03.23.14	hair nu-crunkcore it just keeps getting worse
fallenbird 03.23.14	Black Polka must be the shit
Onirium 03.23.14	post-hair nu-crunkcore
Lord(e)Po)))ts 03.23.14	"pretty much any experimental or avant-garde music is genre transcendent if done right" haha the irony though is that these days people use 'avant-garde' and 'experimental' as genre descriptors or tags to label something unlabellable (that is definitely not a word...) which is kind of funny when you think about it.
Onirium 03.23.14	with a touch of black polka
fallenbird 03.23.14	LordPots just keeps getting deeper and deeper.
fallenbird 03.23.14	He's 2000 miles down is an ocean 2 feet deep.
fallenbird 03.23.14	Oh god I must be high...
Lord(e)Po)))ts 03.23.14	i cant help it!!!
SharkTooth 03.23.14	"the irony though is that these days people use 'avant-garde' and 'experimental' as genre descriptors or tags to label something unlabellable " That's kind of the point, avant garde is SUPPOSED to label something unusual
SharkTooth 03.23.14	also, I really want to listen to some black polka
fallenbird 03.23.14	If I'm going to make a band who plays the Harp, Melotron, Sitar, Triangle, and Tuba, will my music be labeled as Avant-garde?
Ryus 03.23.14	depends on the style, you could make some awesome prog shit with that
fallenbird 03.23.14	What style could it be though?
Ryus 03.23.14	~~~commentedited
Lord(e)Po)))ts 03.23.14	"That's kind of the point, avant garde is SUPPOSED to label something unusual" no, you missed my point. of course its supposed to label something unusual. but the point is that in the context of this list its funny because instead of taking something inventive as a new genre we now clump what we dont know together under 'experimental' or 'avant-garde' as actual genres which aren't actually helpful at all other in that they indicate that you may or may not find the music strange depending on what you are used to.
fallenbird 03.23.14	I'm gonna go smoke some guitars to see if I can come up with a new genre.
MisterTornado 03.23.14	Internet Folk Music Singer/Blogwriter Smart Phone Western Nu-New Age, Drone Pop 64-bit Sepiawave Emoticon Soul Wi-Fi Opera
fallenbird 03.23.14	LOLOLOLOLOL
Lord(e)Po)))ts 03.23.14	"Singer/Blogwriter" "Nu-New Age" amazing
Ryus 03.23.14	technical blackened christian post progressive clownstep ragtime glitch psychobilly folktronica post- hardcore darkwave neoclassical blackgaze disco jazz fusion
Onirium 03.23.14	I don't like to label bands as "experimental". Experimental is not a genre, it's more a mindset and it's way too vague to really describe anything.
SharkTooth 03.23.14	"no, you missed my point. of course its supposed to label something unusual. but the point is that in the context of this list its funny because instead of taking something inventive as a new genre we now clump what we dont know together under 'experimental' or 'avant-garde' as actual genres which aren't actually helpful at all other in that they indicate that you may or may not find the music strange depending on what you are used to." I think In order for a new genre to be made, there has to be a decent number of acts performing with a distinctive sound in common, otherwise, calling it a new genre would be pointless, since there is only one act performing it, just my thoughts
fallenbird 03.23.14	Crunk-Classical
SatanicPeanuts 03.23.14	Thrash funk
Ryus 03.23.14	christian blackened technical nu-neo-post-crunk-classical
SharkTooth 03.23.14	"Thrash funk" basically Pantera
Onirium 03.23.14	the main instrument in black polka is harmonica.
Ryus 03.23.14	pantera is more groove thrash
Onirium 03.23.14	but dark harmonica
fallenbird 03.23.14	Post-Neo-Nu-New Age
fallenbird 03.23.14	Must be deep harmonica
SharkTooth 03.23.14	"pantera is more groove thrash" don't tell me they aren't funky, maybe they're not George Clinton funky, but they are funky
Ryus 03.23.14	melodic technical blackened crossover extreme post-proto-neo-nu-new age
Lord(e)Po)))ts 03.23.14	"I think In order for a new genre to be made, there has to be a decent number of acts performing with a distinctive sound in common, otherwise, calling it a new genre would be pointless, since there is only one act performing it, just my thoughts" I agree but there are shit tonnes of artists that get clumped under experimental or avant-garde that do in fact share a lot in common
Ryus 03.23.14	more groovy than funky
SharkTooth 03.23.14	"the main instrument in black polka is harmonica." "but dark harmonica" AND sung in german
MisterTornado 03.23.14	Neu-Age AKA True Krautrock technicalLive At Primavera Sound 2012core
fallenbird 03.23.14	I feel like some of the "post's" and "neo's" would cancel each other out
Onirium 03.23.14	yeah the deepest harmonica you've ever heard, crafted by the gods of darkness
Onirium 03.23.14	@SharkTooth: We've got something here!
fallenbird 03.23.14	m/
SatanicPeanuts 03.23.14	christian blackened technical nu-neo-post-crunk-classical That sound fucking amazing
fallenbird 03.23.14	That's so metal... I mean Polka.
SharkTooth 03.23.14	"I agree but there are shit tonnes of artists that get clumped under experimental or avant-garde that do in fact share a lot in common" I'm quite sure there have, but this is the internet, so we should come up with the label ourselves
SatanicPeanuts 03.23.14	christian blackened technical nu-neo-post-crunk-classical That sounds fucking amazing
Onirium 03.23.14	"the main instrument in black polka is harmonica." "but dark harmonica" "AND sung in german" by a gospel choir
Ryus 03.23.14	lol just goes to show you the ridiculousness of metal subgenres since almost all of those come from metal
SharkTooth 03.23.14	"We've got something here!" Yes we do, NOW LET'S GET SOMEONE TO PLAY IT!
SatanicPeanuts 03.23.14	Black grind
SharkTooth 03.23.14	"by a gospel choir" a SHOEGAZING gospel choir
Onirium 03.23.14	"NOW LET'S GET SOMEONE TO PLAY IT!" I can play harmonica in a somehow very experimental way...
SharkTooth 03.23.14	we need someone with an accordion, just to confirm that it's polka
fallenbird 03.23.14	Any sort of genuine discussion is now gone
SharkTooth 03.23.14	because we have come to a logical conclusion, now time to celebrate
Onirium 03.23.14	accordion with distortion
Ryus 03.23.14	@fallenbird satanicpeanuts's suggestions have been pretty realistic, black grind and thrash funk sound cool
SharkTooth 03.23.14	"accordion with distortion" first find the accordion,
Onirium 03.23.14	Keyboards with an accordion sound?
fallenbird 03.23.14	Nah we go raw man
SharkTooth 03.23.14	the thread genuine discussion has gone becaues an answer has been reached, as long as there will be new technologies and instruments, there WILL be new genres, and people will always be surprised, because WHILE we have grown desensitized to things like '2 girls 1 cup' we will never become hardened to new and innovative music genres, there's too much waiting to be discovered
SharkTooth 03.23.14	so we got the accordion? now TO THE GERMAN TRANSLATOR
Onirium 03.23.14	Someday someone will release a inventive album like Sgt. Peppers that will revolution the music world.
Onirium 03.23.14	"TO THE GERMAN TRANSLATOR" schwarze Polka ist der beste verdammte genre jemals
SharkTooth 03.23.14	es ist wirklich das beste Genre jemals
SatanicPeanuts 03.23.14	Guys check out babymetal Its Japanese pop death metal
SharkTooth 03.23.14	kann nichts falsch mit Satan anbeten Polka gehen
fallenbird 03.23.14	What
Onirium 03.23.14	was wird der name des bleiband sein?
SharkTooth 03.23.14	Guys check out babymetal Its Japanese pop death metal saw it, lol'd cause it's from Japan
Onirium 03.23.14	Everything feels darker in German.
SatanicPeanuts 03.23.14	Japs are fucked
SharkTooth 03.23.14	Laudatio der Verdammten (eulogy of the damned) @fallenbird, use a german translator
SharkTooth 03.23.14	"Japs are fucked" naah, they just love everything(and I mean everything)
fallenbird 03.23.14	@Sharktooth I was saying what to the Babymetal thing but okay, now I know what you were saying.
Onirium 03.23.14	What about Satan ist ein emo Teenager?
fallenbird 03.23.14	THAT'S NOT THE DAMN GAIN
SharkTooth 03.23.14	"post-ambient drone" nicht eine sehr kreative Auswahl an Genres zu mischen
SharkTooth 03.23.14	I swear one of these days I'm gonna have my name changed to Black Polka, the best thing I ever came up with
Thunderkat 03.23.14	Old-Timey Ska Metal
Onirium 03.23.14	I was thinking of doing the same thing, but go for it, you're the one who invented the name.
fallenbird 03.23.14	Crunk-Ska
SharkTooth 03.23.14	thanks
SatanicPeanuts 03.23.14	Surf Sludge
Onirium 03.23.14	dream funk
SatanicPeanuts 03.23.14	K-Metal (korean metal)
NordicMindset 03.23.14	Acid trip-gaze blackcore
SatanicPeanuts 03.23.14	African Rappers (FROM AFRICA)
Onirium 03.23.14	Manly J-Rock
SatanicPeanuts 03.23.14	Lol ^
fallenbird 03.23.14	Lol ^ [2]
SatanicPeanuts 03.23.14	trip pop
StallionMang 03.23.14	Grindgaze
Onirium 03.23.14	Pornoprog
SatanicPeanuts 03.23.14	Spanish Black Metal
Onirium 03.23.14	avant-garde symphonic surf rock
SatanicPeanuts 03.23.14	classical hardcore punk
NordicMindset 03.23.14	Black Stoner Gaze
SatanicPeanuts 03.23.14	Doom hip hop
Onirium 03.23.14	Softcore
NordicMindset 03.23.14	Sleazecore
Brabiz 03.23.14	Kaiju Metal. No joke, the world needs to make this a thing