InfamousGrouse: Champions League Final

InfamousGrouse 05.25.13	5 hours until kick-off, let's do this sputnik.
InfamousGrouse 05.25.13	Gotze definitely ruled out through injury and Mats Hummels looking likely to start after shaking off a knock
InfamousGrouse 05.25.13	and it wouldn't be a CL final without some light fan violence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgWvCmBxfwQ&feature=player_embedded
Keyblade 05.25.13	cmon Dortmund!
InfamousGrouse 05.25.13	It seems like 80% of the footballing world is routing for Dortmund. Hell, I love an underdog story but not when it's against my team, haha
henryChinaski 05.25.13	This is gonna be great. Hoping for many goals.
henryChinaski 05.25.13	I think Bayern deserve the title a little more when you look at how they played in the league and against Juve and Barca. Also it's their 3rd final in four years.
InfamousGrouse 05.25.13	Any punters out there today there's some very tasty odds on Dortmund. £1 on a Borussia Dortmund 1-0 win gets you £17 back. If I wasn't a Bayern fan, I wouldn't hesitate to put that on.
InfamousGrouse 05.25.13	"I think Bayern deserve the title a little more when you look at how they played in the league and against Juve and Barca." Agreed. If they can replicate those two performances that you've mentioned, they've got a great chance of finally lifting that damn trophy
DominionMM1 05.25.13	bayern
MalleusMaleficarum 05.25.13	dortmund cuz their colors are better
PurpleDino 05.25.13	don't really mind who wins, I'm a complete germanophile so I'm just loving the all-German final, despite being a Brit
TheNotrap 05.25.13	Bayern 2 - Dortmund 1
reportingbird 05.25.13	"I think Bayern deserve the title a little more when you look at how they played in the league and against Juve and Barca." agreed on this so much
InfamousGrouse 05.25.13	I'm predicting a 1-0 or 1-1 going to extra-time or worse yet, penalties.
rockandmetaljunkie 05.25.13	Bayern will probably win, but Dortmund is a tough opponent.
InfamousGrouse 05.25.13	Sweet compilation of the best CL goals from this season: http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/arsenal/8729291/goals!-champions-league-special Surprised they didn't include Eliseu's against Anderlecht, which tops them all I think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N60wGbpRyY
thumbcrusher 05.25.13	Expect a Bayern win, don't have a huge preference, hoping really for a good game. Should be better than last year's where Chelsea's tactic was to kill the game haha
xenocide. 05.25.13	I've supported BVB since 90's, even if there weren't any of my compatriots. Now there's 3 of them: Lewandowski, Błaszczykowski, Piszczek. I don't have much of a dilemma tonight.
ButteryBiscuitBass 05.25.13	Munich to win.
apert 05.25.13	bayern win, £10 on 2-1 final score
acorncheese 05.25.13	wtf is the champions league
Sniff 05.25.13	^ dafuq
anarchistfish 05.25.13	I've said from the beginning that Bayern will win it, and I stick by that, but I think that out of all the teams in the competition, Dortmund are the most likely to give them a run for their money. Should be a good game.
InfamousGrouse 05.25.13	"Lewandowski, Błaszczykowski, Piszczek." The three best Polish players, probably. I hear Obraniak is supposed to be really good too but I haven't seen him play much.
jefflebowski 05.25.13	two amazing, exciting, highly likeable sides with cool managers. what's not to love?
jefflebowski 05.25.13	also, i'm not sure whether i have a bigger football-crush on schweinsteiger or reus
InfamousGrouse 05.25.13	I love both of them, incredible players. I hope Bayern can win so Jupp Heynckes can lift another Champions League before he retires.
jefflebowski 05.25.13	thing is, as much as bayern have had dreadful luck in finals and i definitely feel for them, you've gotta think that they'll be just as strong if not stronger next year, whereas this dortmund team is really a one-off who are gonna lose many of their best players, so it's really their only chance
xenocide. 05.25.13	@Infamous: there are also some good goalkeepers: Boruc, Szczęsny, Kuszczak.
InfamousGrouse 05.25.13	"you've gotta think that they'll be just as strong if not stronger next year" Maybe, maybe not. With the managerial merry-go-round that's occurring this summer I think Europe is going to become more competitive than ever, especially with the rise of PSG and now Monaco as major players on the international stage. Barcelona seem to be on the verge of acquiring Neymar, Real Madrid want Bale, Mourinho will definitely spend a fortune on new players at Chelsea, Juventus will be stronger, Man City will want to improve on their lacklustre two seasons in Europe... it'll be interesting, for sure. Besides, Dortmund have received 37 mil for Gotze and should they also lose Lewandowski (who I'd imagine will leave for around 20 mil), they'll have adequate sums of money to sign replacements, not even taking into consideration the revenues they'll have got from advancing this far in the CL.
InfamousGrouse 05.25.13	oh yeah, I forgot about them, xeno! Boruc used to be great in the SPL.
DannyChrisnanto 05.25.13	Dortmund cos supporting the underdog is always more fun
DannyChrisnanto 05.25.13	Also considering how Bayern will most likely continue to do well in Europe for the next few seasons and how Dortmund might fall apart with Gotze leaving and possibly others leaving this summer, this could be their only CL final in a whileee
Fortheloveofmusic 05.25.13	No matter what happens, I'm interested to see Gotze's reaction. Will be refuse to celebrate no matter who wins? I'm still going for Dortmund winning 2-1. Lewandowski and Reus with the goals for Dortmund and Muller with Bayern's. And this is my pick for the best goal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-Qmd7K1Pp8
bakkermaarten007 05.25.13	Normally I support Bayern, but after they signed Götze (which was a pretty dick move), I wouldn't mind Dortmund to win either. Plus, Jürgen Klopp is such a charismatic figure. I don't think Dortmund is chanceless, they know Bayern through and through.
henryChinaski 05.25.13	Nah definitely not chanceless. I'd say the form on the day will be crucial in the end.
InfamousGrouse 05.25.13	I'd imagine Gotze would celebrate regardless of whether or not he made the final, like JT last year for Chelsea, he's been an integral part of their European run. Sure, he might get a chance to win it at Bayern but you never know.
bakkermaarten007 05.25.13	I wonder how these players get a good night rest before such a crucial event, I even have to take sleeping pills before an exam haha
InfamousGrouse 05.25.13	I'm sure the majority of the Bayern players will be less nervous, being accustomed to CL final appearances in recent years.
InfamousGrouse 05.25.13	But yeah, I had a knot in my stomach last night, and I'm not anywhere near Wembley!
DannyChrisnanto 05.25.13	Yeah dude, given the case it should hopefully be an intense final
DannyChrisnanto 05.25.13	Any thoughts on who would take it if it goes to pens?
anarchistfish 05.25.13	I would go on forever
InfamousGrouse 05.25.13	Who would take the game or who would step up to the spot? Penalties is 50/50, always has been. Hell, given what happened last year, I wouldn't be surprised if Bayern mentally caved in if it went all the way.
Sleaper 05.25.13	MUNICH win 2-0
InfamousGrouse 05.25.13	Going down to the pub, might post from my phone. If not, I fully expect 250+ comments when I return drunk as fuck/crying myself to sleep later on.
DannyChrisnanto 05.25.13	AN HOUR AND 45 MINUTES TO KICK OFF
DrHouseSchuldiner 05.25.13	Bayern Munich win 2-1
Incision 05.25.13	Dortmund 3-2, Lewandowski hat trick bitchs
DannyChrisnanto 05.25.13	^ THIS
henryChinaski 05.25.13	I have nothing against 5 goals :]
DannyChrisnanto 05.25.13	That 4 goal game against Madrid has to go down as one of the best striker performances in champions league history
anarchistfish 05.25.13	Dortmund should really be in the lead, they've had by far the better chances
DannyChrisnanto 05.25.13	DAT weidenfeller save
MalleusMaleficarum 05.25.13	wow still only 55 comments on here. just came on to say LOL @ Robben and how much he sux.
anarchistfish 05.25.13	agreed Dortmund's defence has been a bit shaky. Otherwise both sides are looking strong and it's surprising it's still 0-0
InfamousGrouse 05.25.13	The story of Robben's career is essentially a miss or two in every competitive final he plays in. Godfuckingdamnit.
anarchistfish 05.25.13	I can't wait to see the Netherlands get shown up by Belgium in the world cup
MalleusMaleficarum 05.25.13	a miss or two? he had at least four there in the first half as well as some crosses that werent capitalised on prolly because his teammates werent expecting the ball to be on their heads
Incision 05.25.13	Lol at Belgium in the world cup
MalleusMaleficarum 05.25.13	im lookin at you, muller
MalleusMaleficarum 05.25.13	vermaalen vertonghen verntrujl,chdfghenomaonlen
anarchistfish 05.25.13	"Lol at Belgium in the world cup" Have you even been paying attention to football for the past two years? Belgium have one of the best squads in Europe right now
Rail 05.25.13	Mignolet Kompany Vertonghen Vermaelen Witsel Fellaini Dembele Defour Hazard Mirallas Benteke Lukaku Damn. Nearly all in the Premier League as well.
DannyChrisnanto 05.25.13	Lukaku for golden boot
Fortheloveofmusic 05.25.13	As a goalkeeper, I'm loving this game. So open and back and forth. Impossible to predict who's going to win. As an American who has to listen to Warren Barton and Gus Johnson, this is making me very angry.
Rail 05.25.13	Warren Barton! That's brilliant.
anarchistfish 05.25.13	Courtois is better than Mignolet
Rail 05.25.13	Oooh, you're right. I had forgotten that he's Belgian. If they can manage to get all those players to coalesce, then they're a decent dark horse for next Summer.
Incision 05.25.13	My bad fish, i haven't been following international football recently.Seems they are doing good now but i still predict a weak world cup for them
MoosechriS 05.25.13	"Lol at Belgium in the world cup" Have you even been paying attention to football for the past two years? Belgium have one of the best squads in Europe right now ^^^^ this
anarchistfish 05.25.13	You don't even have to follow international football. Their players have been shining left right and centre. Also 1-0 Bayern. Shame.
MoosechriS 05.25.13	after last seasons final where they somehow managed to lose after destroying chelsea for the best part of the game i think bayern will be more than up for it. as i type 1 - 0 bayern!
MoosechriS 05.25.13	speaking of belgian players Lukaku needs to either play for chelsea or leave this summer. The lad is too good not to be playing every week, at the rate he's developing he's going to be one of the worlds best within the next couple of seasons. He's just got everything
DannyChrisnanto 05.25.13	Damn Rail that Belgium team will go places
anarchistfish 05.25.13	I think Belgium could get a Quarter Final finish next year. They're doing well in the qualifying, although Croatia (probably another of the most underrated teams in Europe) are breathing down their necks. Still think the eventual winner will either be Germany or Argentina though.
RadicalEd 05.25.13	Yeah so... munich is not going to loose this now.
DannyChrisnanto 05.25.13	Agree with moose, lukaku is a scary scary dude I mean he's like 200cm and not even 20
Guzzo10 05.25.13	This doesn't have anything to do with the NBA Playoffs, dafuq In all seriousness, this is much more compelling of a sport to watch.
anarchistfish 05.25.13	PENALTY FOR DORTMUND
RadicalEd 05.25.13	or they will give them a stupid penalty. Dante what was that?
anarchistfish 05.25.13	"Yeah so... munich is not going to loose this now." After what happened last year you think they can't? Germans have a history of choking.
MoosechriS 05.25.13	wtf was dante doing!?!?
RadicalEd 05.25.13	Noooooow it's going to get interesting. both teams will play pretty hard and probably unfair from now on.
RadicalEd 05.25.13	"Yeah so... munich is not going to loose this now." "After what happened last year you think they can't? Germans have a history of choking". Well usually they don't choke against other germans xD
RadicalEd 05.25.13	holy mother of god. Subotic is a beast
anarchistfish 05.25.13	What a clearance. Weidenfeller has been looking shaky for the past quarter of an hour. Lol Robben
MalleusMaleficarum 05.25.13	amazing play by subotic
RadicalEd 05.25.13	Robben is Cpt. Mega-Choke. he just has to pray that he does not get the chance to fail at a penalty.
anarchistfish 05.25.13	If that had counted..
RadicalEd 05.25.13	Neuer let it through because he knew it didn't.
MoosechriS 05.25.13	15 mins to go and it's beginning to get interesting, chances everywhere
RadicalEd 05.25.13	so much for being shaky....
MalleusMaleficarum 05.25.13	weidenfeller looked pretty good on that last shot
MoosechriS 05.25.13	good save from the lad
MalleusMaleficarum 05.25.13	im enjoying the lack of whistles and stoppages
RadicalEd 05.25.13	haha müller.
MalleusMaleficarum 05.25.13	good on the ref
RadicalEd 05.25.13	fuuuuck martinez is soooooo gooooood. Shame on you lewandowski
anarchistfish 05.25.13	Lewandowski should be off for that
RadicalEd 05.25.13	very hard to see for the ref though (who is doing a very good job overall imo)
MoosechriS 05.25.13	could see dortmund stealing this to be honest
MalleusMaleficarum 05.25.13	obviously its a coin flip at this stage
anarchistfish 05.25.13	Would be amazing if Dortmund won it Very possible as well. It's been as close as I thought it would be
RadicalEd 05.25.13	schweinsteiger is not keeping up at all with gündogan, which is suprising because he's way more experienced and i'd say a tad better than him usually.
RadicalEd 05.25.13	I hope munich wins it, because they deserve it for years, while dortmund should have been out against malaga
MoosechriS 05.25.13	fantastic save
anarchistfish 05.25.13	"I hope munich wins it, because they deserve it for years, while dortmund should have been out against malaga" No they shouldn't
RadicalEd 05.25.13	not that great of a shot to be honest. Good save though. Great game.
MalleusMaleficarum 05.25.13	yeah its over
anarchistfish 05.25.13	Fucksake
MalleusMaleficarum 05.25.13	quite honestly i went into this wanting dortmund but im not sure they deserved this one
RadicalEd 05.25.13	not robben. why robben. His story demands that he fucks it u and hits the bar.
RadicalEd 05.25.13	well they deserve it imo.
MoosechriS 05.25.13	game over
anarchistfish 05.25.13	We beat them 2-0 away, therefore we're the true European Champions!
anarchistfish 05.25.13	of course it's not game over
apert 05.25.13	Called it
RadicalEd 05.25.13	It's not over till it's over. Ask Solskjaer and Sherringham.
anarchistfish 05.25.13	Ask Malaga
anarchistfish 05.25.13	ok now it's game over
RadicalEd 05.25.13	irregular goals though^^
RadicalEd 05.25.13	fuck poor gomez.
DannyChrisnanto 05.25.13	That was heartbreaking but sorta poetic that robbed scored
anarchistfish 05.25.13	Malaga scored an offside goal themselves so they cancel each other out
RadicalEd 05.25.13	over.
RadicalEd 05.25.13	I really don't like robben. But even I am a bit happy for him xD
anarchistfish 05.25.13	I'd feel happy for them if I didn't dislike their general attitude
MoosechriS 05.25.13	fantastic game, bayern deserved it overall
ncguitar 05.25.13	Dortmund deserved the victory imo. Still, cool for Bayern after so many finals lost.
ncguitar 05.25.13	And yeah, fuck Robben.
anarchistfish 05.25.13	I don't think, based on this game alone, either team deserved it more than the other. Very close game.
ncguitar 05.25.13	Campaign-wise, both deserved it a lot (though Bayern had an outstanding one). But in the match, I didn't like the general attitude of Bayern.
RadicalEd 05.25.13	Not based on that game. It was even. But overall. I feel like guys like schweinsteiger and lahm who been to every major final in club and national football in the last 6-7 years and never won anything, deserve to get some gold at some point.
Thane 05.25.13	fuck robben and ribery ugh
ncguitar 05.25.13	@RadicalEd those guys do deserve the title; admirable team commitment. Some others were more of dickheads though.
H61 05.25.13	bayern deserved it, they responded really well after dortmund scored and were taking the initiative. dortmund just faded a bit and their defense was pretty porous
facupm 05.25.13	I wanted Dortmund to win it. But well, both deserved it, 2 great teams. If my team wins la Copa Libertadores, we'll have to face Bayern again...
Dreamflight 05.25.13	awsome game! next UEFA Supercup....Mourinho vs Guardiola? :D
oresttt 05.25.13	YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!! MÜNCHEN IST ROT!!! FC BAYERN STERN DES SÜDENS DU WIRST NIEMALS UNTERGEHEN!!!
anarchistfish 05.25.13	l'allemand s'excite là..
ncguitar 05.25.13	@facupm Boca Juniors?
facupm 05.25.13	@ncguitar of course! It's tough the Libertadores, you know, but who knows maybe we'll get our seventh
ncguitar 05.25.13	Well, you guys have a good chance. Atletico Mineiro is probably gonna be one of the finalists, and they're a challenge indeed.
facupm 05.25.13	yeah Mineiro is the strongest team, weface them on the semifinals unless Fluminense also gets there, so they are forced to face each other, and we should go with Independiente Santa Fe from Colombia. All this if we defeat Newell's which actually is the best team of Argentina at the moment, and it was 0-0 in la Bombonera so it's gonna be pretty hard. Vamos Bocaa!
rockandmetaljunkie 05.25.13	One of the best finals I have ever watched. Bayern are the rightful European champions.
jefflebowski 05.25.13	great final, the better team probably won in the end but jesus, bayern definitely have the least likeable pair of wingers in football history
InfamousGrouse 05.25.13	So much hating on Bayern ahaha. After that world cup final 1-on-1 situation against Casillas, and that penalty against Cech, it HAD to be Arjen Robben to pop up with the winner. Goddamn, I am one happy man.
jefflebowski 05.25.13	don't get me wrong, i love the rest of the team, and it's great to see schweini and lahm win something for once, but robben and ribery are, for all their talent, complete dickheads to the core
facupm 05.25.13	What jefflebowski said is true, they are like aparted from the group, especially Robben
BroFro 05.25.13	Robben is the worst finisher i've ever seen. he was in position to score about 5 goals today, and the one he did score was the weakest most pathetic little dink ever.
InfamousGrouse 05.25.13	Nobody is good enough to score 100% of their chances, plus I dunno if you noticed but Weidenfeller had a solid game between the sticks. All that matters is he won the game, with a goal and an assist and a man of the match performance to boot. I really dunno what there is left to bitch about him. Redemption after his disappointments of last year in Dortmund and the Final.
BroFro 05.25.13	yeah but he usually misses 100% of his chances. and for somebody that gets as many chances as him, thats significant
jefflebowski 05.25.13	i just can't forget what a disgrace he was in the last world cup final, where if he wasn't attempting to kick the spain team off the pitch or diving he was constantly moaning about everything to anyone who'd listen. brilliant player though
BroFro 05.25.13	^this his attitude and theatrics are typically disgraceful, he can't finish, but other than that he's a terrific player. and you could tell how much this game meant to him, so props there as well
facupm 05.25.13	im starting to get alarmed by the german team for the next WC plus, they kicked us out last two WC, and on 2010 they destroyed us. Im argentinean btw
InfamousGrouse 05.25.13	Well that's just blatantly not true. Robben scored the goal to knock Dortmund out of the DFB cup, scored one goal per game against the greatest club side in history and played fantastically against a team that went unbeaten in Serie A and claimed successive titles. As I said, nobody in world football is even remotely close to 100% finishing. Even Lionel Messi is probably under 50% conversion rate. What matters is his overall performance. And, for the record, he has been simply sublime this season, improving on his weaknesses; for one, his predictability has decreased to devastating effect, and elsewhere his tracking-back has improved enormously. He is a far more complete player nowadays.
InfamousGrouse 05.25.13	@facupm, Yeah, I remember the pre-match pundits tagging Argentina as big favourites in that match. Schweinsteiger in that match was absolutely flawless against Messi, not to mention, if memory serves, he set up two goals.
facupm 05.25.13	well yeah, despite all his cons, i'd like to have him on my team
zakalwe 05.25.13	Congrats Bayern a strong team if ever there was one. I never thought I'd say it but two German teams showing the rest of Europe how a final should be played.
facupm 05.25.13	true
jefflebowski 05.25.13	bayern have got to be one of the most complete teams i've ever seen, even more so than barcelona circa 2010 (though lacking in as much star quality), and they're just a machine when on top form. From the quarter finals onward they haven't conceded in open play - that's 5 games against the top club sides in the world. incredible
BroFro 05.25.13	goals/shots percentage from the past year robben: 12% messi: 30% in case anyone was wondering. look, robben is a good player and always has been. he's just a weak finisher
jefflebowski 05.25.13	to be fair pretty much anyone looks like a bad finisher compared to messi, he's a machine
facupm 05.25.13	yeah but lets face it he's a forward or a winger at least he would be messi if he finished like him, but well he just doesnt, and he fails also at the time of assisting, he takes wrong decisions usually but he is an excellent player for what he is
zakalwe 05.25.13	No matter what form the German teams are nothing but machines, the international team had a rocky patch for about 10mins then came back stronger, more workmanlike and exemplary then ever. Superb footballing nation and to top it all one of the best places in the world for a beer.
facupm 05.25.13	i swear i will go to germany at least once
zakalwe 05.25.13	Highly recommended facup. Went to Munich last year and was overwhelmed by the friendliness of the people. Fucking great night out aswell.
henryChinaski 05.26.13	Great match, very exciting. Either side could have won. I think Bayern deserve the trophy based on their overall performance this year, but Dortmund were very strong.
bakkermaarten007 05.26.13	The best final in seven years. The last exciting one before that was Milan-Liverpool
Voivod 05.26.13	I was supporting Borussia yesterday, but Bayern hid the ball in the second half.
Keyblade 05.26.13	finally watched it. Dortmund didn't deserve to win on that second half performance sadly. how cruel was it to lose in the 88th minute jeez. congrats to Bayern though, about time they won a final.
henryChinaski 05.26.13	"The last exciting one before that was Milan-Liverpool" Damn that was an insane match :]
jefflebowski 05.26.13	milan-liverpool is the best game of football i've ever seen by a country mile