Ponton: Anti-seizure Meds For Depression

JustJoe 11.29.12	I don't know if this is like the least helpful comment ever, since I'm not completely aware of how this particular class of medication works. I sympathize, though. My father has had many a seizure, & has been on a group of meds--years and years--for treatment. It ain't fun stuff. Good luck, anyway, I hope the new pills help.
redskyformiles 11.29.12	The seizure meds act as anti-psychotics more than anti-depressants and are primarily used to stem the irregularities of Bipolar 1 and 2. I've had experience with both Depakote and Risperdal. Risperdal made me absolutely miserable.
Ponton 11.29.12	"Risperdal made me absolutely miserable." then i have taken something like this before then. risperdal brought me to tears everyday when i took it 6 years ago.
Xenophanes 11.29.12	My dog ate a bottle of Gabapentin once and I had to make him drink Hydrogen Peroxide to throw it all up. It's my mom's meds. I could ask her about it if you'd like.
Xenophanes 11.29.12	also, depression is the pits. While I've never had it myself, I've been around people that do and it's something else.
YoYoMancuso 11.29.12	found out my friend was diagnosed the other day. ^ I agree, it really is the pits.
redskyformiles 11.29.12	that's what it did to me. my prescription was for an every day low dose and if i peaked to take a complimentary low dose. it made me an over emotional wreck and then i'd pass out. it was far worse than being off of it. i haven't been on anything for a long, long while though.
Ponton 11.29.12	yeah it is. though in the 8 years ive had it, ive tried to fight back, even if it led to unhealthy behaviors. But now its like ive lost my will to push against it. isolating from everyone, sleeping all the time. idk whats happening
YoYoMancuso 11.29.12	My aunt is bipolar, one time she absolutely flipped shit during a manic episode, left her family and drove to Vegas. We've only seen her like 3 times since.
wabbit 11.29.12	the sleeping thing was my least favourite part. I was only depressed for around 8 months and only once though. 8 years must be brutal.
Ponton 11.29.12	if i had a choice, i wouldnt take anything because more often than not it makes it worse in the long run via a hopeless perception when they fail. but my parents are upping my rent if i dont seek any "help". i was living on my own this year but i almost did something really foolish so for the time being im unfit to go that route. individual and group therapy is interesting but im finding the tactics im given are useless to fend off my addiction and/or depression. Cue "Mad World".
redskyformiles 11.29.12	obviously, if you have the means to do group therapy/afford psych drugs you have insurance. have you ever thought about finding a medical professional that's a little less drug oriented in their treatments?
redskyformiles 11.29.12	if there's one thing if learned in dealing with psych doctors, you've gotta push back with what you think your best interests are just as hard as they're pushing whatever preferences they're biased towards.
Ponton 11.29.12	"obviously, if you have the means to do group therapy/afford psych drugs you have insurance." i work full time, be it minimum wage. But no insurance. All therapy i receive is state funded. the meds im prescribed are via a non profit/donations clinic and only if a generic is available, which is merely $3 walmart.
Xenophanes 11.29.12	Psych doctors as a whole don't get a lot of respect from me. That being said being diagnosed with schizoid personality disorder wasn't a lot of fun to go through.
Ponton 11.29.12	oh i can only imagine, sorry man
redskyformiles 11.29.12	oh, that fucking sucks. sorry dude. @xeno: my problem is that i don't trust the lot of them. I have been absolutely miserable for the last several years but I am so hesitant to do anything about it because of feeling more like a lab rat than a human being during my 7 years on medications. so i just let it get worse. i had a rather drunken suicide attempt a while back and instead of that being the last straw I just quit drinking instead to skirt the issue.
Trebor17 11.29.12	Dr. Treb prescribes 500 CCs of Pixies - Doolittle
Satellite 11.29.12	paxil and weed keep me posi as fuck
Trebor17 11.29.12	I have depression and anger issues hard but I don't take anything yet because I'll probably wait until I snap and beat the shit out of somebody and then they'll drug me up real good
Xenophanes 11.29.12	Well that's not cool man. I mean, that's a good thing to give up because alcohol can only exacerbate that sort of thing. I mean, I'm only a guy on the internet but perhaps it is time to seek someone out that may help? What a sorry lot we are lol
redskyformiles 11.29.12	I find working 6 days a week with 2 double shifts a week and being on a schedule that affords me little contact with friends because of weird hours exacerbates things more than alcohol ever did, but hey, life...
redskyformiles 11.29.12	seriously, we all suck haha
Xenophanes 11.30.12	Wow that actually sounds pretty brutual, man.
Ponton 11.30.12	"paxil and weed keep me posi as fuck" before this one, i was on paxil and lithium. and there was a big change, but i became apathetic to all my problems and lost my social filter, becoming a senseless asshole. I almost had sex with a married woman and nearly got my ass beat by her husband, who i work with. Considering im shy and not prone to cross that kind of moral line, i knew something was wrong.
redskyformiles 11.30.12	It's terrible but not so bad. sorry for hijacking your thread Jared. I got to go to bed anyways. gotta be up at 3:30 am.
Ponton 11.30.12	its k. me too i have to be up at 4
Spec 11.30.12	Never heard of that. I myself take Cipralex, Wellbutrin and Dexedrine.
redskyformiles 11.30.12	if you ever have a question about medications or anything let me know. my aunt is a psychiatrist and my mom works as a pharmacy manager at a hospital. i probably wont know the answer but chances are one of them will.
Aids 11.30.12	damn it's nice to know i'm not the only fucked-up one here. no offense to any of you obviously. i sympathize with all that shit so hard. i wouldn't go so far as to say i'm "depressed" (though I definitely was from 09 til like, the beginning of this year), but i still get anxious about literally everything. i want to get off my meds and just start excersizing/eating right, all that jazz, but a nice side effect is that they help me sleep, and I literally cannot without them. anyway, im not of any specific help here, so sorry about that. but we're here for you if shit gets bad. you can always be yourself on the internet. be well dude.
auberginedreams 11.30.12	i've taken more pills than i can count over the years for depression and ocd. i've never taken any seizure meds though, i've never heard of them being used for depression, or at least i've never been recommended any.
auberginedreams 11.30.12	"a nice side effect is that they help me sleep, and I literally cannot without them." neither can i, it sucks.
Crysis 11.30.12	Can't comment on specific medications but I hope everything gets better for you Jared, you deserve it.
Ponton 11.30.12	thank you guys. this is weird. something is happening to my vision
bakkermaarten007 11.30.12	The amount of people that think they are depressed when they're not never ceases to amaze me. Not saying that you're not, cause you've been described meds. But it's true, a lot of people think they are depressed when they're just sad fuckers like me. Edit: althoug I should take antidepressants for my social anxiety, but that's not the same. Well, maybe I'm a little depressed but not enough to put these pills into my system, I refuse.
Hep Kat 11.30.12	didn't read the thread, but you're prolly taking trileptal. i've taken it as a mood stabilizer for years, it's fine
TheFonz123 12.02.12	Every person responds to medication differently in the case of psychotropic drugs but for what it's worth, I am taking zoloft at the moment and it works very well for me. It's the only one i've ever responded to, and the zyprexa (mood stabilizer) works fairly well, although my mood disorder is so intense that nothing can really keep it stable. Sometimes you just have to wade through "bad" medication to find the ones that work, becuase it really is a trial and error type thing for most patients. Anyway, hope this is some help!
FadeToBlack 12.02.12	ignore, not gonna talk about this on sputnik of all places
TheFonz123 12.02.12	^Can't tell if you are making fun of me
FadeToBlack 12.02.12	nvm
TheFonz123 12.02.12	Your post made a lot of the same points that I made so I wasn't sure if you were sarcastically repeating my post to make fun of it. my bad, i guess I was being oversensitive nvm!
Spec 12.26.12	anyway, im not of any specific help here, so sorry about that. but we're here for you if shit gets bad. you can always be yourself on the internet. be well dude. Aww Aids. So nice.
North0House2 12.26.12	I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum, I don't feel many emotions at all. I've never felt anger somehow, or really sadness either. It's not like my life's been easy or anything either. The crap I've dealt with lately has been really really heavy and hard. But I just can't feel those emotions no matter how hard I try. So... I can only imagine that'd suck hardcore. I recommend this stuff called Zeolite. It's just a mineral you mix in with your water and drink. It removes toxins from the body though, and it's virtually cured my brother of Crohn's Disease, and my sister of her horrible asthma. I don't know if it affects mental/cranial issues, but it's worth a shot and I don't think you can overdose at all... it's like taking iron.
Ponton 01.09.13	Interesting northouse, never heard of it. And thanks Spec, I didnt see your comment until now. Anyone have any exprience with prozac? its what im on now.
Aids 01.09.13	naw dog but good luck yeah? I'm just on mertazapine (sp) to regulate my anxiety levels, nothing too intense though. when did you start taking "anti-depression" meds?
Spec 01.09.13	Prozac is okay. Had little effect for me but everyone's different.
Crymsonblaze 01.09.13	i've only had experience with zoloft (been on it for about 3 months) and it's not doing too well so far.
Spec 01.10.13	Getting off of Zoloft was one of the worst experiences of my life.
Ponton 01.10.13	"when did you start taking 'anti-depression' meds?" eight years ago. I went off of them for a while until 2 years ago because a couple of them screwed with me in a bad way. So far I'm not feeling as manic as I was with the paxil, just more balanced and even. Which is nice. Didn't feel much of anything from lamictal (sp?)
Spare 01.10.13	errbody in the club gettin sad
Wolfhorde 01.10.13	Do you people even have proper therapists? Serious question 'cause all I'm reading here is meds and meds and more meds. (which often don't even achieve the "traditional therapy goal of resetting people to 0") Also, I've known quite a number of people who were far more succesful with psychological issues with more practical approaches than rolling with meds all the time. I had anger issues and insomnia and only took sleeping pills one time. Shit made me so groggy the next morning I couldn't even change my clothes.
YankeeDudel 01.10.13	start meditating and listen to alan watts
Ponton 01.10.13	i do have a therapist, yes. ive seen about 5
Spec 01.10.13	Mines pretty shitty. It's like they get commission from the drugs they prescribe.
YankeeDudel 01.10.13	they pretty much do. they're all professional drug dealers. which is why like 60% of america is on pills now.
Hep Kat 01.10.13	i've seen like...8-ish different therapists since i was 16, but i've been seeing the one i'm seeing now for almost 2 and a half years, and she's great. she doesn't like the fact that i smoke pot, but she's been giving me less shit about that since i might be moving to one of the states where it's legalized. therapy is great, i would have waaaay more gray hair were it not for it
Wolfhorde 01.10.13	I'm just surprised at how prevalent medication therapy seems to be in the U.S. - I mean it's not like meds aren't used here but usually docs don't throw meds at you because they know they can get into big trouble because of this - the least of which would be the equivalent to losing your license to practice. I've actually seen a therapist who's hitting a lot of lectures and stuff and he's pretty much only down for meds if it's really necessary or as a temporary help. Also met some pretty ace "sick people" that had a lot of vitality and did a lot themselves to get themselves as out of their mess as good as possible.
BallsToTheWall 01.10.13	Meds for depression? wat
Uranium 01.10.13	'Is it Me or My Meds? - David Karp. Read it.
Spec 01.10.13	I miss having an appetite!
BallsToTheWall 01.10.13	Depression is a great way for the corporations to make bank. I mean therapy, depression meds, come on man...Why the fuck waste money like that. Diet and exercise can clear a lot of that shit out and even then all you gotta do is develop a positive mindset, do what makes you happy.
Spec 01.10.13	I walk to and from work everyday! How's that?
BallsToTheWall 01.10.13	Getting fresh air and being outside instead of being cooped up help a lot as well.
Wolfhorde 01.10.13	Except that you probably don't or never had depression. Obviously there's a lot of shit going on, but that doesn't mean the sickness itself isn't a thing. And therapy in general isn't a bad thing. The way therapy has partially evolved to a cashing mashine is problematic. Also, there is no general solution to an individual problem, BITCH! Therapy 101, nigguh.
YankeeDudel 01.10.13	i got any prescription i ever wanted on 1st visit. it was like going to drug dealer. ambien, xanax, ssri's, etc. i havent taken anything in years as ive found meditation and exercise is really the best medicine. but as a dumb teenager I thought pills could solve everything. i only took ssri's for a couple days before I stopped cuz I read up on em and didnt like what I heard. ambien was making me trip and do weird shit in the night, and xanax felt great but it was only a matter of time before I got addicted to that shit. nah man big pharma wants everyone medicated and its making billions in the process.
omnipanzer 01.10.13	Blow jobs are the best medicine money can buy, and you're stimulating local small business activity.
BallsToTheWall 01.10.13	Charlie Bartlett was a great movie.
Wolfhorde 01.10.13	I don't even know any of these pills.
BallsToTheWall 01.10.13	OMNI FOR STAFF CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN
Wolfhorde 01.10.13	"low jobs are the best medicine money can buy, and you're stimulating local small business activity." You know I have bro-love for you my old man but I really want to bismarckslap you right now.
BallsToTheWall 01.10.13	Best cure for depression? Getting swoll. It's the single thing that has kept me stable and afloat this past decade.
YankeeDudel 01.10.13	i didnt even have any depression issues. i couldnt sleep so the doc prescribed me ssri's. didnt even know what they were really. like damn that is serious shit. docs just throw em around like m&ms.
Wolfhorde 01.10.13	@Wylie: What the fuck does that even mean. Also, I'm gonna bet my fucking heritage on the fact that you never had depression. You're just a crazy (possibly hormonally unstable) nigguh. @Yankee: As I said, took sleeping pills once - that shit was downright heavy. I was never this groggy before in my life. Not even when I got shitfaced out of my mind.
BallsToTheWall 01.10.13	Whos' talking to who here?
BallsToTheWall 01.10.13	I've had deep bouts since about the 7th grade and it's been uphill downhill since then although the last few years have been mostly uphill with a side serving of indifference. Shit started stabilizing around 20 and now it's not gone but I can work around it.
Wolfhorde 01.10.13	Doesn't mean you were depressive. Depression doesn't make your mood change like the weather. It drags you down like a motherfucker for no apparent reason from what I gather, it can also pretty much fuck with your perception and warp you into some kind of existing slab of human meat existing only to moan about how shitty things are.
BallsToTheWall 01.10.13	My problem today is that I care too little. About anything outside of working out my indifference takes over and I go on and chat on sputnik on hours end without caring that I just wasted a whole day on the fucking internet.
someguest 01.10.13	I don't do medications, no matter how shitty I feel.
BallsToTheWall 01.10.13	Dilaudid is pretty fun although I haven't had it in some time.
bakkermaarten007 01.10.13	"agreed, edge is the only way to stay decent" Though I think/hope you were not serious, I sometimes wonder if I would have turned out less fucked up if I didn't drink so much and take sleep pills and anti-anxiety pills.
BallsToTheWall 01.10.13	Shit man if you have sleeping problems just take Magnesium.
bakkermaarten007 01.10.13	I live a healthy life Balls, aside from the drinking and medication. It's just that I can't shut down my thoughts, magnesium doesn't help. I do take that in concentrated form during examinations.
Wolfhorde 01.10.13	"My problem today is that I care too little. About anything outside of working out my indifference takes over and I go on and chat on sputnik on hours end without caring that I just wasted a whole day on the fucking internet." Perspective, brosephski. Know the problem, make a plan, fight the problem. Shit ain't gonna change without change through routine aka discipline/change of habits.
bakkermaarten007 01.10.13	I'm clean for three weeks now, must say I had outburst after outburst of severe panic attacks when I quit. Only take meds when I'm not on vacation.
Spec 01.10.13	I'm the same. Night time my mind is racing.
bakkermaarten007 01.10.13	Sucks, doesn't it
BallsToTheWall 01.10.13	I have noticed that since taking Tribulus it has made me angrier and hornier. I don't feel rapey however, which is good.;
bakkermaarten007 01.10.13	If you use it for muscle build-up, it appears that stuff doesn't work.
someguest 01.10.13	"I don't feel rapey however, which is good." hahahahahaha
YankeeDudel 01.10.13	"mind is racing" start meditating man. seriously. or at least just learn some basic mind principles from meditation (cuz meditation isnt just something you do for 10 minutes and then forget, you take what you learn everywhere). a couple years ago I suddenly would go days without sleeping cuz my mind wouldnt shut up. the key is the more you struggle to shut it up the worse it gets. like quicksand. just become the silent observer of your thoughts, dont judge them, disassociate identity form them, and let them do what they want. after a little while they will shut up. bele dat.
BallsToTheWall 01.10.13	Yeah,I take it for and have notice quite a testosterone difference. Great for sex, jerking off and being aggressive in the gym/real life. I stack it with another herb called Maca. I feel doom smashing skulls.
bakkermaarten007 01.10.13	Well, being horny is never a bad thing. Always something to occupy yourself with if you're bored lol
BallsToTheWall 01.10.13	Im going to go to town with those herbs like Muari Pama, Tonghat Ali and fenugreekwhen I can afford it. I want to see the beast I can be. Fortunately they are all put together in something called T Bomb II.
BallsToTheWall 01.10.13	However there might be potential that I could start throwing people down stairwells and going apeshit in burger joints when there's not enough pickles on my burgers. I think..I shall tone it down for down. I'm fucking 24 in a couple months. I'm dumb for taking test boosters even if they are herbs.
bakkermaarten007 01.10.13	Be careful what you put in your body man, but it sure can be interesting to see the effect meds/supplements have on you. The meds I've been taking to control my anxiety block my emotions which is very handy in professional life to be more opportunistic and get people off your back and be in charge, but it makes me more of an asshole. I hate that.
Wolfhorde 01.10.13	Oh yeah, overstimulation can also fuck with your brain Wylie - meaning that can lead to to a "why bother?" attitude because it fucks with the chemistry in your brain and it becomes harder for your brain to react with hormones to all kinds of shit, for example stuff that'd make you happy and so forth.
BallsToTheWall 01.10.13	That's very good to know. To this point I feel that I've kept it pretty stable. If I take anything more than tribulus and maca I feel it could be problematic. Shouldn't take T Bomb II till I'm like 26-29 when the male body begins to slow down.
BallsToTheWall 01.10.13	I need to lay off the Monster Recovery man. Those and just caffeine in general will be my downfall.
Spec 01.10.13	I accidentally liked this list on Facebook. How embarrassing.
someguest 01.10.13	lol
Wolfhorde 01.10.13	I'm not talking about stuff you put into your body, I'm talking about the simple actions you perform. What you expose your brain to. (although your intake can also fuck with your bodily balance)
bakkermaarten007 01.10.13	Congratulations with the first sputnik like on facebook Spec. lol
Spec 01.10.13	So embarrassed. People will know I use sputnikmusic.
bakkermaarten007 01.10.13	You will be responsible for a new influx of users with average taste lol
MinusDrummer 01.10.13	My wife has really bad seizures and she takes Dilantin which works very well.
GiaNXGX 01.10.13	comorbid MDD/ HSP/ OCD. I tried Prozaco once but I started gaining a lot of weight and couldn't sleep for days, I was submerged in a painful paranoia & my insomnia didn't helped me either. Gave up shortly after, whenever I feel like offiing myself I smoke weed, it helps me calm down and recover my mind into a relatively rational state. These days are horrible, 2012 was horrible as well.
Ponton 01.10.13	oh wow gian, I feel for you man. Yeah, last year was the pits for me as well. I seem to sleep well and its shutting off my appetite, odd. The Dr. said i wouldnt have to worry about gain or insomnia. But yeah different people, different things.