ThunderNeutral21
11.07.12 | hello |
menawati
11.07.12 | ye best rpg they did |
Lakes
11.07.12 | it's what i've been playing too dude, amazing
made a dunmer battlemage (custom class battlemage) and i've been takin it slow, doing telvanni/mage's guild |
ThunderNeutral21
11.07.12 | lakes i played more of your rpg cause i wanted to work with rpg maker and fool around with it |
ThunderNeutral21
11.07.12 | dunmer battlemage? the fuck.....my dark elf in skyrim was rogue/mage and my dark elf in oblivion was a straight up mage......prolly should try a battlemage in es one of these days. Right now im doing a medium armor wearing endurance oriented redguard warrior |
MusicIsMyFavorite
11.07.12 | morrowind is good
this list is also good |
Lakes
11.07.12 | "lakes i played more of your rpg cause i wanted to work with rpg maker and fool around with it"
ah. impressions? |
Lakes
11.07.12 | "dunmer battlemage? the fuck.....my dark elf in skyrim was rogue/mage and my dark elf in oblivion was a straight up mage......prolly should try a battlemage in es one of these days. Right now im doing a medium armor wearing endurance oriented redguard warrior"
yup. basically took the default battlemage class and swapped out heavy armor for light armor and axe for long blade. |
klap
11.07.12 | say what link me to this mod |
Lakes
11.07.12 | http://www.ornitocopter.net/morrowind-overhaul/ |
ThunderNeutral21
11.07.12 | no general impression really. i mean its obviously short and simply made from an rpg maker program. Im pretty impressed that its pretty long for what it is and has a story layed out though |
ThunderNeutral21
11.07.12 | lakes also how easy is it to get daggerfall running |
Lakes
11.07.12 | "lakes also how easy is it to get daggerfall running"
very easy
http://theelderscrolls.wiwiland.net/?title=Daggerfall_:_DaggerfallSetup_EN
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klap
11.07.12 | i haven't played morrowind in forever so i don't remember how those textures compare to the original but it looks good. forgot how cool telvanni cities were |
wabbit
11.07.12 | morag tong and the temple were my favourite guilds.
best game ever. |
Ovrot
11.07.12 | Hlaalu is the only correct choice |
Lakes
11.07.12 | "no general impression really. i mean its obviously short and simply made from an rpg maker program. Im pretty impressed that its pretty long for what it is and has a story layed out though"
thanks dude, took forever just to get it to this point and it's still nowhere near what i'd like it to be, but it's pretty much the best i can do with this dated/limited engine. i assume you completed the parts of the main quest that i've done so far? |
Lakes
11.07.12 | "Hlaalu is the only correct choice"
Hlaalu was my first playthrough, actually with a warrior character so i had to abuse training to go up the ranks. eventually made it to grandmaster though at like level 28, was a great feeling |
klap
11.07.12 | hlaalu was my first too. i have literally never ever been anything other than a dark elf in any elder scrolls game |
Lakes
11.07.12 | i always play khajiit for my first character, but i'm going dunmer this time |
demigod93
11.07.12 | dunmer rule
I've never played Morrowind proper, I have the xbox version but its so dated I get bored, fast. Gonna try and get this overhaul mod working though, as I've heard nothing but great things about the game |
Lakes
11.07.12 | overhaul takes a while to install but it's pretty simple and it works great. graphically you can take
it to insane levels. i had to set the draw distance down quite a bit because i was getting lag in
outdoor areas, and i have a pretty solid gaming rig. |
klap
11.07.12 | khajiit is probably the only other race i would consider |
wabbit
11.07.12 | "eventually made it to grandmaster though at like level 28"
off the boat, get the mushrooms, go to balmora, join mage's guild, hand in mushrooms, get second mission, steal all the soul gems, go to caldera, go to the creeper, go upstairs and take the orcish armour (they don't care/ no crime), sell everything to the creeper, profit.
power level to 15-20.
you are now powerful enough to do almost any guild/ go almost anywhere.
I thought everyone did that. |
Lakes
11.07.12 | the human races are kinda eh and the other elves are dumb, argonians are pretty retarded, so yeah. i don't mind bretons though if i play as a human race. |
Lakes
11.07.12 | "off the boat, get the mushrooms, go to balmora, join mage's guild, hand in mushrooms, get second mission, steal all the soul gems, go to caldera, go to the creeper, go upstairs and take the orcish armour (they don't care/ no crime), sell everything to the creeper, profit.
power level to 15-20.
you are now powerful enough to do almost any guild/ go almost anywhere.
I thought everyone did that."
not in that order lol but i did abuse creeper quite a bit. had over 500k at one point just from waiting and selling stuff to him at full price. |
klap
11.07.12 | do people do shit like that rabbit? kind of defeats the whole purpose of gaming right. would also consider bretons forgot
about them, almost did one in skyrim |
Lakes
11.07.12 | i don't go out of my way to powergame, but playing an insanely overpowered character is so much fun in morrowind. it was so satisfying getting my first completed set of daedric armor when i finally killed divayth fyr. |
ThunderNeutral21
11.07.12 | best elder scrolls game for sure though, really starting to become one of my favorite games ever. and yeah dark elf best class |
Lakes
11.07.12 | definitely the best elder scrolls game, yeah. daggerfall and skyrim are both really fun in their own
ways too. oblivion kinda sucks, couldn't really get into arena. |
klap
11.07.12 | oblivion was disappointing in hindsight but it was very enjoyable playing with those graphics after waiting so long after morrowind |
wabbit
11.07.12 | No. You just turn the difficulty slider up it's still just as challenging. (even at level 150-something it's impossible at the hardest difficulty). You just skip the boring "get this flower, kill these rats, delivery this letter" missions that you have already done some many times/ and the point in the game where you only hit your target 1/4 of the time.
I guess it wrecks the first couple missions of the first guild you do in balmora. But even if you just do a single mission from each of those guilds at a time you will get to the point where you are "over-leveled" too so It's not really a big deal.
It's fun doing stuff like "being an imperial guard", "becoming an assassin" "being a priest" or "joining a great house" as your first guild instead just being stuck in Balmora. |
klap
11.07.12 | very true |
ThunderNeutral21
11.07.12 | for once lakes, i totally agree with everything you just said. Morrowind is a masterpiece in every way besides it's engine and lol combat. Skyrim lacks depth and feels even more dumbed down than Oblivion was (compared to the much more difficult and cryptic game before it) but is still a huge improvement over Oblivion and really great as a casual rpg. Most questlines were engaging though if you really sink in the game is still pretty shallow. The world was amazing too and even though it was really really easy and even unrewarding it was still really enjoyable and did iron out some small issues that had been in every es game before it. and yeah, oblivion is pretty lame. Weakest ES I've played in just about every category. Daggerfall is really fun too, never owned it myself but played it a bunch of times with a friend. World is too vast and random to immerse yourself in though |
wabbit
11.07.12 | about buying levels with gold. I guess I'm glad they limited it in the later games. But in morrowind getting to a point where you could fight the highest level stuff would take an eternity without it (I assume it would) since it takes so fucking long. |
ThunderNeutral21
11.07.12 | and even though Skyrim and Oblivion were way too simplistic, easy, and inconsistent in plots and writing (skyrim was more successful than Oblivion in that department though), I still love the ES lore once you really dive into it, and every ES game is so big and magical that I even enjoyed reading books and talking to people in a boring world like Cyrodil. Just goes to show that even with their flaws the most recent two ES games still present deep lore and vastness better than any other recent rpgs |
Lakes
11.07.12 | yeah, daggerfall is a lot more focused on dungeon delving than open world sandbox stuff. the dungeons in that game are pretty great though, by far the most challenging/non-linear of the series. |
klap
11.07.12 | yeah buying levels with gold was key i didnt really use my gold for anything else if i remember |
wabbit
11.07.12 | If you really invest in skyrim and play it like D&D (or how I assume you play D&D) it's really fun.
Putting limits on how much you can carry, no fast travel and pretending the "hardcore" mode from
Fallout: New Vegas is on (or just modding lol) makes it a much more indepth games, it actually feels
set up to be played that way. The amount of shit you find walking from place to place instead of fast
travelling is incredible. |
klap
11.07.12 | damn this is really making me want to get windows on this laptop stat |
KINGSTATICTHETHIRD
11.07.12 | morrowind > daggerfall >>>>>>>>>>>>>> skyrim > oblivion > arena |
ThunderNeutral21
11.07.12 | exactly. Same with Morrowind, except in Skyrim and Oblivion's case, I dont think you should have to pretend certain features arent there. They ruin the immersion. I never fast traveled in Skyrim for the most part because I found the world so beautiful and enchanting, but the world in Oblivion was bland and repetitive so I fast traveled a lot. In Morrowind if I had the option I still wouldn't. I love exploring Vvardenfell and one second being in a brown looking slum like Seyda Neen (still one of the best ES towns) to a masterpiece of a city like Vivec. The culture and cryptic feel of Morrowind make it so enchanting. Oblivion and Skyrim are both decent games, Skyrim perhaps being way above decent but they still don't fully feel like the adventures they should be because by appealing to console gamers and younger audiences, Bethesda has made their recent games way too simplistic and guided to be true adventures |
Lakes
11.07.12 | true neutral. mods can restore a lot of magic to skyrim, but it's still not going to have as deep or well-written quests and culture as morrowind did. the mod iHud does wonders for immersion, though. |
KINGSTATICTHETHIRD
11.07.12 | "they still don't fully feel like the adventures they should be because by appealing to console gamers and younger audiences, Bethesda has made their recent games way too simplistic and guided to be true adventures"
truth |
wabbit
11.07.12 | Yeah good point. Like Morrowind had towns that served no purpose other than to make the world seems more real.
Suran was a really cool town but you almost never had a reason to go there plus it had a strip club but I think there is only one mission in the entire game that involves you going there. In Oblivion and Skyrim you would be there every 10th mission. Freeing slaves had no immediate reward other than your personal morals but if you freed enough slaves a really cool little side guide opened up. Then you even had stuff like building your own house (or building a town in the expansion).
I never really thought about how much better Morrowind was. |
ThunderNeutral21
11.07.12 | Yeah. I mean I really like Skyrim despite its simplicity, but Morrowind is just on another level. I dont really hate Oblivion either but it's mediocre as a game and a joke compared to the rest of the series. Still they did the lore of Cyrodil and the Imperials really well in it. Idk every ES game has it's flaws and I think Oblivion is hilariously overrated but I guess on some level im Still and ES fanboy....i love the lore |
ThunderNeutral21
11.07.12 | lol yea wonarabbit its not like skyrim is a bad game and oblivion isnt absolute garbage but it's kinda like they dumbed those games down so much from Morrowind that things didn't feel challenging, rewarding, or necessary for the most part. I was particularly pissed off by how bad the ending to Skyrim's main story was. Didn't make any sense and it didn't feel epic or glorious or rewarding. The main story itself was actually pretty cool for the most part but it ended so poorly. Kinda like how Oblivion's main story was really lame (amazing concept though) but it had a great ending |
Satellite
11.07.12 | i love morrowind but i can do without the mods. the game's just timeless. |
klap
11.07.12 | the drug estate in suran was the tits too. going there to off dren was legit |
ThunderNeutral21
11.07.12 | i need to play more. Funny thing is, Im actually considering doing the game with god mode toggled. Reason being is I simply don't have time to put 400 or 500 hours in, and what I'm really interested in in Morrowind at this time isn't the challenge that the game presents so well, but the questlines and environment. I feel like running through not struggling in dungeons and such though might a. ruin the experience and b. be a cop out though |
klap
11.07.12 | the best part about god mode is being able to cast levitate without running out of mana |
Lakes
11.07.12 | i dunno, morrowind isn't really a particularly difficult game once you know what you're doing. kinda challenging in the beginning, yeah, but that's part of what makes the game so great to me. you really feel like a loser in the beginning and it's cool to watch yourself gradually become a god. the progression to that point is a lot faster in skyrim. |
ThunderNeutral21
11.07.12 | in terms of difficulty of enemies, yes, if youre an intelligent gamer who understands how to make a good build, it gets to a point where its not so difficult. However, what always remains a challenging adventure in Morrowind is questing locations and decisions. Without the quest markers and the fact that the world is so weird and huge it really takes effort to get where you need to go, which makes it such a great adventure |
KINGSTATICTHETHIRD
11.07.12 | "i love morrowind but i can do without the mods. the game's just timeless."
no, not really. the graphics are retardedly dated. |
Lakes
11.08.12 | yeah, that's a huge part of the appeal to the game as well for me. i still get lost looking for stuff sometimes, and it really adds a lot to the gameplay experience and the feeling of a real open world.
morrowind's world design really is brilliant. it has a smaller map than oblivion or skyrim but it does so much more with that space, and it actually feels a lot bigger than it is. |
Winrar
11.08.12 | Although many elitists feel that Daggerfall is the best in terms of difficulty, quests and game mechanics for it's time, i think Morrowind is the best due to the immersion, the alien yet somewhat homely world of Vvardenfell, the memorable characters and events (who didn't remember Fargoth, Hainab or the Dremora who threatened to rape your body) and the amazing soundtrack. Sure, there were many flaws such as the combat system, exploitable game mechanics and dumb AI, but the game perfected what an open world RPG should be. |
Youtellme
11.08.12 | one of the best rpgs ever. |
Winrar
11.08.12 | I remember running a hand-to-hand character with fatigue drain spells, it was fucking boss. |
Lakes
11.08.12 | playing a mage in general is incredibly fun. |
FigNewtns
11.08.12 | been playing mario party 3 lately |
dammets
11.08.12 | still playing earthbound |
Parallels
11.08.12 | I think Morrowind is the best due to the immersion
This ++++++ |
wabbit
11.08.12 | as soon as I get good internet I'm dling Morrowind, modding it and destroying my social life. |
apert
11.08.12 | only play oblivion and skyrim but might get morrowind when i get a decent computer, everyone says its better than the other 2 but not sure if this is truth or elitist attitude |
Lakes
11.08.12 | truth hard dude |
