hluch: Life Is Just Bad.

bakkermaarten007 05.11.12	You're still young. Things can change for the better. Don't do it man, depression basically is caused by a deficit in your brain because of being overexxposed to stress factors. Think about it that way.
someguest 05.11.12	if you're depressed now, wait until you get out into the real world and see that everyone around you is a piece of shit good luck kid
Storm In A Teacup 05.11.12	Life hasn't even started for you yet, things can work out. Right now what you're going through will make you stronger in the end just hold on to hope. It will all be okay!
bakkermaarten007 05.11.12	"everyone around you is a piece of shit" this is so true, you don't even need to be depressed to realize that.
ZilbelPing 05.11.12	I'm 17 and I'm fine. You're just being a pussy. lol but seriously, if your school is anything like mine (full of idiotic, ignorant people), then just forget about them and associate with others who don't annoy you because if the people you do hang out with are annoying you, your hanging out with the wrong people. Find something to do on your spare time to help get your mind off whatever's stressing you out. Learn to play an instrument (I'm probably really happy most of the time because of drumming. It helps to blow off steam sometimes), play some video games, read a book, or something. You (and me) are still young, so whatever is stressing you out is probably some little, insignificant thing that more than likely isn't such a big deal so just forget about it and you'll probably laugh about it in a couple weeks or so.
someguest 05.11.12	well i'm going to sit on the deck and listen to sublime, peace be with you
YoYoMancuso 05.11.12	i had a friend jump in front of a train about 6 months ago, and it still hurts, don't do this to your loved ones, there are people who CAN and WILL miss you. It's just for now, things will get better I promise.
hluch 05.11.12	High school is filled with materialistic, narcissistic, clueless people. And what the hell is so great after high school? I get a job and try to pay all my bills for the rest of my life. And woman suck. Seriously, not once have I met a semi-intellectual woman. I don't have the balls to kill myself either so I hope I become at least happier than I am now in the future. /Done bitching. (Maybe.)
pmmets07 05.11.12	i feel the same most of the time. today was a good day, however.
hluch 05.11.12	@ZilbelPing Believe me, I know I'm a pussy. My life is fine, but I can't see the point in anything really. On a lighter note, I play drums as well. I'm going to learn The Crunge by Led Zeppelin sometime this weekend. That groove is so good.
Hawks 05.11.12	This list is bullshit.
ffs 05.11.12	yeah well we all got problems man
Killerhit 05.11.12	This list is bullshit. [2]
bakkermaarten007 05.11.12	"Believe me, I know I'm a pussy. My life is fine, but I can't see the point in anything really. On a lighter note, I play drums as well. I'm going to learn The Crunge by Led Zeppelin sometime this weekend. That groove is so good." Proven not depressed, you're still enjoying things. You're probably just on the way of becoming a cynical anxious bastard like me, welcome!
hluch 05.12.12	Hehe.
Bloodhail 05.12.12	>kill yourself OR >get over it GO!
pizzamachine 05.12.12	Life is often difficult, that's a given, but you don't have to let it defeat you. It really is a choice. I once went through major depression, but I got out of it because I chose to. Life won't necessarily get easier, but it's your take on it that counts.
hluch 05.12.12	That's actually a good way to put it. I just don't feel real, lol.
Dev518 05.12.12	"But EVERYONE is a hypocritical, ignorant douche bag including myself" With that attitude, you are never going to be happy. You need to take people for what they are, not what you want them to people. Some people really are "douche bags" but most aren't. You might be surprised to find out that some even have good qualities. The bottom line is that you got yourself into depression, and only you can get yourself out of depression.
ZilbelPing 05.12.12	Yeah, basically what bakker said. You're just cynical which is understandable since most people are worthless and shitty.
ThroneOfAgony 05.12.12	I have depression too, but it come and goes. I'll typically just play some Current 93 or Nick Cave to cope. I know, i'm so pathetic
hluch 05.12.12	It probably doesn't help that I go to a school in Ohio that has a total of 80-100 kids in each grade. So gay.
PistolPete 05.12.12	Do you find you compare yourself to others a lot? Like in terms of where your life is headed, what you've accomplished, or stupid things like looks? I'm only asking cuz you mentioned how ppl you know are "hypocritical". I do this too much and here's what happens: A) If you think yourself better than someone --> you will tend to think of the negative things about them (what's wrong with them) and end up hating them for the way they are. B) If you think someone is better than you --> you will be consumed with feelings of both envy and self-loathing for how much of a failure you seem alongside them and hate them for being better than you. Case in point, I find that the people I meet who are depressed (including myself) have a tendency of comparing themselves to others when its more important to stay focused on yourself and your goals in life.
Storm In A Teacup 05.12.12	I went to a school with over 1,000 kids in each grade and 1,200 in my grade.
sniper 05.12.12	quit your bitchin and grow up
ThroneOfAgony 05.12.12	I'm currently in High School, and honestly, I love it so far. You know what is really sad with my depression, is that when I'm in school, i'm actually more happy being there as opposed to being at home.
Treboris17 05.12.12	Life is just rad
Storm In A Teacup 05.12.12	You'll feel better if you stop listening to Alesana, too.
ZilbelPing 05.12.12	"A) If you think yourself better than someone --> you will tend to think of the negative things about them (what's wrong with them) and end up hating them for the way they are. B) If you think someone is better than you --> you will be consumed with feelings of both envy and self-loathing for how much of a failure you seem alongside them and hate them for being better than you." Man, sounds like being depressed sucks major ass. Sorry guys. Hope I never get depressed.
ThroneOfAgony 05.12.12	when you're depressed just listen to whitehouse and your troubles will vanish
hluch 05.12.12	I think I'm just an asshole. I could care less about fucking looks. But when I meet someone or talk to somebody I know that's into looks, I immediately dislike them. I just mean people are hypocriticial in general, including myself. Everybody is one.
ZilbelPing 05.12.12	"You'll feel better if you stop listening to Alesana, too." hahaha just tell him to get The Artist in the Ambulance and everything will be fine.
hluch 05.12.12	I don't listen to Alesana anymore. That was a terribly chosen phase...
sniper 05.12.12	dude your problem is that you're internalizing a lot of negativity by judging yourself and the people around you. and what's worse is you realize that you're doing it and you realize it's making you unhappy, yet you don't change your behavior. the way you think is a choice you're making every day. if you choose not to make better choices about your self image and your worldview then you will continue to live the same shitty life you are living now.
Scoot 05.12.12	if you think life sucks now... seriously, being 17 was awesome. no responsibilities, able to drive, worked like 3 nights a week instead of 5 days for 8 hours/day, on my parents' medical and dental plans, no signs of aging etc.
InFiction 05.12.12	I felt that way for quite a while when I was your age. I'm 19 now, turning 20 this year and things are already better for me. As cliche as it sounds, things do get better. I've been there before and I know how much it fucking sucks, but you just have to wait it out.
hluch 05.12.12	Republicans are gay though.
sniper 05.12.12	no you don't have to wait it out, you have to make a change.
ZilbelPing 05.12.12	"I think I'm just an asshole. I could care less about fucking looks. But when I meet someone or talk to somebody I know that's into looks, I immediately dislike them. I just mean people are hypocriticial in general, including myself. Everybody is one." From what you keep saying, it seems like me and you dislike the same kinds of people but your problem is that your school is too small so you can't really find many people you actually like. This will all change when you go to college, cause well, there's usually a shit ton of people in college.
hluch 05.12.12	@Hep Kat I hate you.
Storm In A Teacup 05.12.12	Get 'The Artist In The Ambulance' lol
Storm In A Teacup 05.12.12	@Hep Kat I minimally hate you, but that's cuz you let BoySetsFire break up. Fucking douche bag.
Steoandnoodles 05.12.12	Dude, you'll get through. I think every teen is obliged to have a stage in their life where they feel like life sucks but it doesn't, it's awesome, especially when you have your health, family and basically; if you wake up and tell yourself "I'm actually awesome." then you will be. Wake up tomorrow and be yourself times a thousand. Seriously, think positive thoughts about yourself and you'll actually start feeling better.
Scoot 05.12.12	no rent, no roommate, no post secondary expenses, cheaper phone bill, no taxes and the list goes on. enjoy it while you can my friend
PistolPete 05.12.12	fuuuuccckkkk roommates mine snored and it turned me into an insomniac
bakkermaarten007 05.12.12	I'm 23 and my faith in a better future keeps diminishing with every month, so no don't wait it out. Make a future for yourself, no one else is going to do it for you. And yeah I get what you said about the looks department, too many people nowadays live their lives and achieve their goals solely with or with one other's looks. It's a reflection of the shallow society we live in.
Storm In A Teacup 05.12.12	I had to work at sonic drive in 60 hours a week, paying over $1,200 in bills a month for 9 months. Now that shit was depressing.
hluch 05.12.12	Not going to lie, 60 fucking hours a week would be terrible.
ThroneOfAgony 05.12.12	I'm currently 16 and life is ehhhh. I can't fucking wait till i'm in College, even though I'll probably miss High School the day I graduate
ZilbelPing 05.12.12	Storm, that sounds horrible.
J0ckstrapsFTW 05.12.12	I'm in college. It rules
hluch 05.12.12	Dude, I'm going to post-secondary full time next year. I'm ecstatic.
Scoot 05.12.12	are your parents paying for it? @hluch
auberginedreams 05.12.12	anyone who calls this guy a pussy is a worthless piece of shit. it doesn't matter whether or not he has anything to be depressed about, it's a mental illness. obviously the feelings aren't going to be rational. i'm 22 and i've dealt with depression for about 7 years now. it takes an incredible toll on not only the individual, but all of those close to them. if you've never been depressed (as in clinically depressed, not just sad) then you have no idea what it feels like and you shouldn't ever tell somebody that they are weak or selfish for their feelings. "It's like I want to be alone, but I get depressed when I am alone." i know the exact feeling. just know that suicide is never the answer, you're stronger than most of these people talking shit on you for something they know nothing about. i'd be happy to talk to you if you ever need to get anything off of you're chest. sometimes it's easier to talk to someone over the internet about these kinds of things than with somebody in real life. just know that you should never feel ashamed about the way you feel, it's not your fault. just stay positive.
hluch 05.12.12	No, I somehow kept adequate grades and earned a decent score on my ACT, so I believe I'll get accepted.
Storm In A Teacup 05.12.12	Zilbel, it was. I was the co-manager, right under general manager. She didn't do anything really except take her drugs and spend time on the phone trying to sell the rest, but she was a good person so I didn't tell on her ever. And I was working from 5 am to 4pm 6 days a week and I was the one expected to come in when someone didn't. The straw that finally broke the camels back was when the night crew started doing meth and no one was going to do anything about it and because of what happened to me with the DEA and getting narc'd on I'm not the kind of person to snitch about that shit so one day when my shift was over I told the GM I'm done and that was my last day.
sniper 05.12.12	tl;dr but the important bit is where he said "stay positive"
ThroneOfAgony 05.12.12	Yeah dude, I mean, If you're young, then life will get better.
ZilbelPing 05.12.12	@Storm: Sounds like what I'm probably gonna have to go through when I'm in college. I'm not asking my parents for anything when I leave as they're low on money so I'm going to provide for myself which ever way I can.
Puzzles 05.12.12	I have one word to headline what I'm going to say: purpose. Reading what you've written, there's one thing that's screaming out to me: you don't feel like you have a purpose. You're stuck in a hopeless place full of narcissistic, materialistic people and everything seems pretty bleak looking out at the outside world. You're not getting any fulfilment out of anything and understandably so. I have absolutely no doubt that if I didn't have the outlook I have and the desire to be purposeful that I have, I would be in exactly the same position as you. All through high school, I've resented the people I've gone to high school with, I've resented the teachers and the school and all of the people around me, and I've despised the system and its philosophies. The idea that you go through 6 years of high school, get a job, make money, have a family etc has always sounded completely fucked to me. I'm different, I know that, and I know you're in the same boat. What I have done is taken this resentment, this negative energy, and filtered it into a perpetual desire to be BETTER than the people I so resent, and in doing this I've given myself purpose. I've absolutely given myself to the need to be the most well-read person in the room, to be a skilled multi-instrumentalist (I've taken up 6 instruments), a knowledgable producer and a highly politically-minded person.
auberginedreams 05.12.12	"tl;dr" perhaps, but this is obviously a sensitive subject for me. i don't think the people saying "kill yourself or get over it" understand how much words can affect someone who is depressed, even over the internet. you should NEVER say that kind of a thing to somebody who has admitted feeling suicidal. obviously i don't know this kid so i can't say if his case is as serious as i'm making it out to be, so excuse me if i'm overreacting, but until you know you should assume that he's telling the truth and be careful about what you say.
Puzzles 05.12.12	Instead of following the path that has been set out for everyone else, I've realised that we all have the power to actually divert from that path and carve out our own niche in life. If you have the desire and the drive to do it, it's easy, in the sense that you actually revel in the challenges that life gives you in pursuit of your goals. I gain fulfilment through writing and recording music, writing poetry, painting and doing as much community service as I can, and when I don't have the opportunity to do these things (I'm in a boarding house), I tend to get incredibly depressed and spiral into self-loathing. If you can find yourself a purpose in life, you will find yourself on top of the world. Your hatred for the robotic, ignorant, mindless and aimless people around you can be filtered into a drive to be someone great. I can assure you that all of the greatest people throughout history would have had the same feeling as you do - that they're "out of sync" with society and that they don't "fit in", and this has been filtered into a drive to do incredible things. Some examples: Albert Einstein, John Lennon, Steve Jobs, Muhammad Ali, Henry Rollins (my personal favourite). I'm 17 as well and I don't intend to follow the conservative, bullshit path that everyone else seems to follow. In the future I intend to justify my existence through creating the best music that I can and dive into making a difference in the world. I would like to bring awareness to the humanitarian crisis in China, for example, and I will be able to do this through reaching a larger audience who will listen to what I have to say. This is my purpose, and if I didn't have this outlook (which I did up until last year) I have no doubt I would be a worthless, cynical, pessimistic, angry, depressed piece of shit. You can be your own person, and once you realise that limits are wholly self-imposed (which I didn't believe for most of my life) then you'll be a much happier, more fulfilled person with an optimistic outlook on life and a desire to do great things. Peace and love, my friend.
Storm In A Teacup 05.12.12	We're trying to inspire and save.
hluch 05.12.12	Thanks Puzzles. I need a job though because I want to record music as well. I've been applying to places for months though. I applied to my local McDonald's a little while ago and my friend works there. I went there with my friend about two weeks after I applied and some fat, brainless woman got the job. Why? WHY?
Puzzles 05.12.12	Don't get me wrong, I'm not happy all the time. There are many times when I still get pissed off and lose sight of things. There are only three things I know never change in life - the sun rises and sets every day, you "become what you think about" and life is like a pendulum (when everything is terrible and shitty, just be ready because everything will inevitably get better). The last principle always applies so long as you are aware of it.
someguest 05.12.12	who cares anyway, we all die once you've been high, drunk, fucked, driven a car, and seen the ocean you've lived enough anyway
ZilbelPing 05.12.12	Damn, puzzles. Nice.
auberginedreams 05.12.12	so basically disregard what someguest just said.
Puzzles 05.12.12	I don't have a job, man. All you need is a dynamic mic, a Digitech RP255 and Cubase SX2 and you can get a hell of a great quality sound.
someguest 05.12.12	puzzles I'ma throw that up on facebook and credit it to a philosophical young man
YouGotLucky 05.12.12	If you're that pissed off, you might as well live on just to spite everyone you know.
hluch 05.12.12	"shut the fuck up whiny fucking faggot. you're a bitch. lolololol" I lol'd. @Puzzles Is that good for a full band? Also, what about recording software? Is Audacity good enough?
ZilbelPing 05.12.12	Nevermind.
Puzzles 05.12.12	Audacity was great for recording a couple of demos and learning how the basics of recording works. I would just record the drum loops that were preset into my RP255 and chopped them up in Audacity's editor to make it what I wanted. Eventually I got Cubase and basically taught myself from the ground up how everything works. You tend to learn things much quicker and remember them when you have an inherent interest in the subject and a goal to reach. I'll shout box you a link.
hluch 05.12.12	Thanks, man.
Calicula 05.12.12	Cheer up, man. Things will get better, just you wait. 8)
AdamK 05.12.12	thats why we have music bro
auberginedreams 05.12.12	funny how puzzles is the most mature guy in this thread and he's 17. some of you guys are pretty pathetic.
hluch 05.12.12	Even music depresses me, lol. Yet I love it. If that makes sense...
AdamK 05.12.12	i don't think many people can take this kind of stuff seriously over the internet
AdamK 05.12.12	Yeah music can do that but for me it helps knowing that there is music that feels the same way i do in a situation. And then that in itself can bring happiness..if that makes sense
ThroneOfAgony 05.12.12	Music depresses me sometimes but really, it makes me happier. Once again, I don't know if that makes sense...but
hluch 05.12.12	The internet's just a way of contact. Either way, it can help.
AdamK 05.12.12	Yeah i was actually really surprised at the lack of trolling here
AdamK 05.12.12	But you are just going through a phase that a lot of people go through don't be irrational
hluch 05.12.12	I have a feeling there was a lot. LOL.
ConcubinaryCode 05.12.12	everythings not shitty.
AdamK 05.12.12	nah considering this is sputnik there wasn't too much
ConcubinaryCode 05.12.12	no, some things aren't so bad.
Calicula 05.12.12	"funny how puzzles is the most mature guy in this thread and he's 17. some of you guys are pretty pathetic." I'm 14 but what kind of idiot discloses their real age online?
hluch 05.12.12	It really doesn't matter. He could just say he's 17 and not be.
ConcubinaryCode 05.12.12	everyone on social sites do that.
someguest 05.12.12	i'm 16 ass hair out the jeans
auberginedreams 05.12.12	what kind of idiot makes up a fake age online for no reason?
someguest 05.12.12	WHAT KIND OF IDIOT
porch 05.12.12	can't believe aubergine is an angry firecrotch kid irl
mangasm 05.12.12	Keep your head up bro, there are a lot of assholes out there in the real world (myself included) but it's good to share your feelings with someone instead of keeping them bottled up.
YankeeDudel 05.12.12	Try meditating and all that present moment jazz. Look up some Buddhist teachings. Become aware of your negative thoughts and see them as just thoughts. They dont have any power unless you give them power and they arent real. Exercise too. That helps to release some tension.
ZilbelPing 05.12.12	Recs offering advice everywhere be goes.
IMZA1793 05.12.12	I only got really depressed when i was rejected by my crush (also one of my best friends) months ago. I still get depressed because of shit that happens to me, but usually music and talking with people helps me a lot. It feels like everything's bleak when you're depressed; horrible feeling. Hope you can get over it.
someguest 05.12.12	lol look up some buddhist teachings yeah dude, become a bigger flake than you already are lmfao
PistolPete 05.12.12	@IMZA1793: yeah silentpotato has a good point, at least in your case you were hung up on the girl, now that it's out and dealt with, you can accept the fact that it wasn't meant to be, and go on to bigger and better things. Getting dumped by a person you've been with for over a year is A LOT worse
someguest 05.12.12	spirituality is fine buddhism and new age shit is flakey
mangasm 05.12.12	"Recs offering advice everywhere be goes." Lol what can I say I know a thing or two about life.
YankeeDudel 05.12.12	Actually meditation, just living in the moment, and basically just not thinking so much has more profound effects for depressed people than antidepressants. So yea if thats flakey then cool.
IMZA1793 05.12.12	yeah i got over it after a while. I still think about it sometimes because i talk to her everyday, but i've tried to move on since its obviously the best thing to do.
Crysis 05.12.12	"It's like I want to be alone, but I get depressed when I am alone." I've constantly been this way for the past 4 or 5 years, so I know that feel.
someguest 05.12.12	"Actually meditation, just living in the moment, and basically just not thinking so much has more profound effects for depressed people than antidepressants. So yea if thats flakey then cool." you can chill out without thinking about a fat man
Tikicobra 05.12.12	I'm with you on that one, hluch. But at least there's always good music to get us through the day, right? Obviously I don't know you, but I'll be prayin'. (Not sure how much that means to you)
Crysis 05.12.12	and even though I'm not religious in any way I agree with silent about buddhist meditation - many, many, many people have been helped by it
YankeeDudel 05.12.12	You dont know anything about Buddhism if you think its all about worshipping Buddha. Buddhism is more about psychology than anything. About mastering your mind. Buddha is just a symbol and somebody to be learned from. Nothing more. Hes no God. Im not a Buddhist but it has some cool stuff in it. Either way you dont need to be into Buddhism to learn how to meditate and just generally live in the moment. It helps anybody not just depressed people.
Hyperion1001 05.12.12	buddhism never struck me as being religious as much as it is spiritual
PistolPete 05.12.12	how does it help you accept death? (just curious, that caught my attention)
auberginedreams 05.12.12	"can't believe aubergine is an angry firecrotch kid irl" who said i was angry?
AdamK 05.12.12	from my religious studies class i can say buddhism is all about self help and to achieve a "higher" state through meditation, etc. You don't worship gods. As far as i'm concerned it is the least destructive of the religions
Crysis 05.12.12	"buddhism never struck me as being religious as much as it is spiritual" I'm in the same boat but many people group it as a religion and for argument's sake I usually refer to it as such. I've tried the whole meditation thing but I'm just not a spiritual person whatsoever plus my state of mind was completely wrong so it didn't really work.
AdamK 05.12.12	@ Crysis it is definitely a religion
someguest 05.12.12	lol it's way too fucking easy to get you guys all pissy
Hyperion1001 05.12.12	yeah id like to try it but i dont believe it would do anything for me either ill just listen to camel
AdamK 05.12.12	meditation can be as simple as just blocking out all the noise and relaxing there aren't any rules
Maniac! 05.12.12	what did I just click on?
Hyperion1001 05.12.12	"lol it's way too fucking easy to get you guys all pissy" the classic someguest "LOL U GOT TROLLED LOSER" piss off cunt
Crysis 05.12.12	Yeah I'd say that too but to me personally it seems more of a personal, spiritual way of life than an organized religion as most think of it.
mangasm 05.12.12	Lol @ porch I see absolutely nothing wrong with using spirituality as a way to ease depression. It has helped dozens of people I know personally. If you ever feel threatened, be sure to hit the [Report this Post] button.
Crysis 05.12.12	"@crysis u dont need to be a spiritual person to meditate, just focus more on the physical components. its a tool for just that anyway, when you are in the wrong state of mind u can use it to ground yourself again" I'll try it again sometime and focus more on physical aspects (focusing on your breath, etc) and see how it goes. I always thought it helped to be a spiritual person.
YankeeDudel 05.12.12	All you have to do to meditate is focus on your breathing. Be present. Your breath is always there with you so its the best thing to meditate on. Its hard at first to not control your breath when you're focusing on it but after some practice you learn to just relax and witness it. If a thought comes up just let it come and go. Dont follow it. Return to your breath. After 10 minutes you're done. Easy peasy.
Hyperion1001 05.12.12	ive never understood the word spiritual really, because ive had experiences that i would count as spiritual but still completely irreligious and void of anything other than me and my surroundings, you know what i mean?
Crysis 05.12.12	"If a thought comes up just let it come and go. Dont follow it." This is the hardest part imo. People don't realize just how much they think.
Crysis 05.12.12	"ive had experiences that i would count as spiritual but still completely irreligious and void of anything other than me and my surroundings, you know what i mean?" yeah i think we've all had experiences like that
mangasm 05.12.12	Hmm to be honest silent that sounds pretty enticing, going through a bit of stress right now. Not looking to get into any heavy spiritual things though lol.
YankeeDudel 05.12.12	Yea the first time people meditate it can freak them out how much they think. Most dont realize that the vast majority of your thoughts are not even yours, which is why its so hard for people to meditate. If you were actually controlling your thoughts youd be able to stop them any time you want, and you cant. They just pop up with no warning. If you're not aware of it your mind will be racing all day. So yea meditation/just being more conscious helps that alot.
AdamK 05.12.12	spirituality comes from within and can be in touch with nature god, whatever religion is organized spirituality and consists of dogmas, rights, rituals, rules, etc
Calicula 05.12.12	"what kind of idiot makes up a fake age online for no reason?" I was making a point. Did you really not get the sarcasm? "who said i was angry?" So you're a firecrotch girl? Cool.
Hyperion1001 05.12.12	"to me science is what we understand of god and the metaphysical is what we don't yet understand of god." this sounds very pantheistic, which is my favorite of the "religions" (if you can even call pantheism religion)
Crysis 05.12.12	Since I've graduated college with a degree that isn't what most people would call valuable I've been trying to really find myself, and I've been considering trying meditation again because my head is absolutely spinning. I don't know what I want to do and it frustrates me that I can't really know what will happen in a week or a month or a year. I've been reading a lot of literature that calls for simplicity and living in the moment (like Thoreau's Walden) so this discussion of meditation makes me want to give it another shot.
auberginedreams 05.12.12	well i have red hair. i don't remember porch saying anything about me being a girl though.
Calicula 05.12.12	guy in real life, bro
mangasm 05.12.12	AMAZING GRACE HOW SWEET THE SOUND
AdamK 05.12.12	yeah and you can be religious and not spiritual which usually means you do it because your parents make you lol. But a lot of people in society don't understand that spirituality doesn't have to go with religion so when you say you aren't religious they think you are totally void of all thoughts about deeper reality or anything like that
Hyperion1001 05.12.12	my philosophy is firmly grounded in reality, and our perception of reality. i could never accept the existence of a deity and could never submit to a religion. but i am absolutely fascinated by religion for some reason, and moreso ancient religions, especially the polytheistic ones
Crysis 05.12.12	well that settles it, then
Crysis 05.12.12	"my philosophy is firmly grounded in reality, and our perception of reality. i could never accept the existence of a deity and could never submit to a religion. but i am absolutely fascinated by religion for some reason, and moreso ancient religions, especially the polytheistic ones" 123
auberginedreams 05.12.12	"guy in real life, bro" i'm not sure what you're talking about or if this was even directed at me, but i am a young male. with red hair. that part was accurate. i'm just confused about the angry part. not that hard to understand.
AdamK 05.12.12	hyperion sums up my thoughts as well
YouGotLucky 05.12.12	somegest is such a fucking fag
mangasm 05.12.12	Oh shit is about to get real fellas sits down, hand in pants
Hyperion1001 05.12.12	sumerian mythologies are really cool and the native americans
YankeeDudel 05.12.12	To me God is just everything, but God is a dirty word to most now. I mean we really dont know why anything is the way it is. What the fuck this reality we are in is about. We give names and act like we know stuff but really what the fuck is this place? Science tries to explain how stuff happens but it doesnt explain WHY it happens. Why anything happens. It just does. We're all here for god knows what. In the end there really isnt any clear reason to our existence besides just existing and being a good person, so just take it step by step and enjoy it I guess. All you have to do is watch Animal Planet to see what the point of life is though: To survive.
AdamK 05.12.12	silentpotato you lost me bro
AdamK 05.12.12	i thought we were talking about spirituality as in being in touch with yourself when did god come into this
Hyperion1001 05.12.12	"I mean we really dont know why anything is the way it is. What the fuck this reality we are in is about." this is the thing that utterly baffles me about religion in general. why do we need a reason for being here? why cant we just simply exist, why cant we accept what we are nothing more than a product of our environment and nothing more? its such a simple concept for me to grasp that i just cant understand how someone doesnt get it.
AdamK 05.12.12	because it's human nature to want to know the answer to everything so people use religion to fill in the answers. Which is ridiculous. I personally am fine with saying "i don't know" it makes much more sense to me than making shit up.
Hyperion1001 05.12.12	but it doesnt even boil down to i dont know. you DO know. you are a product of the physical world surrounding you. there was no reason for your existence, it just happened that way and could have just as easily not happened.
YankeeDudel 05.12.12	Because thats a troubling thought to many people Hype. They want to feel like they are special. Like they are more important than all the other life on this planet and get to go to Human Heaven. That all of this shit we do here isnt just for nothing because we're all 6 feet under in no time. I mean it does kind of suck when you think about it lol. Religions helps some people cope with that reality. But hey Im not going to act like I know for sure there isnt an afterlife. My guess is there isnt but if there is Im sure its nothing like the way the Bible describes.
AdamK 05.12.12	well the truth is science can only tell us so much we don't know a lot of what has got us here but as science progresses we learn more and more.
ZilbelPing 05.12.12	Dammit I'm trying to watch this awesome discussion on spirituality and meditating and aubergine and that other kid keep fighting about who has the biggest firecrotch or some shit. fuck
MudIdol 05.12.12	My solution to life feeling like shit was dropping out and getting a job. I'm pretty happy right now. My diploma would be nice but I don't have the drive to get it. School never gave me any sense of fulfillment. I imagine imma work really hard for the rest of my life tho..
EscapetheMundanePlane 05.12.12	the lowest lows give way to the highest highs. just the duality of it all. when it turns around, the contrast makes it unreal
ZilbelPing 05.12.12	"To me God is just everything, but God is a dirty word to most now. I mean we really dont know why anything is the way it is. What the fuck this reality we are in is about. We give names and act like we know stuff but really what the fuck is this place? Science tries to explain how stuff happens but it doesnt explain WHY it happens. Why anything happens. It just does. We're all here for god knows what. In the end there really isnt any clear reason to our existence besides just existing and being a good person, so just take it step by step and enjoy it I guess." I kinda have an idea of what you're saying and I agree if it is what I think you're saying. Like I believe in god but I also believe in science if that makes sense. For example, the religious buffs who discredit all science piss me off because they think everything just popped out of nowhere instead of going through transformations and evolutions. I think whoever this great diety is (god or whatever) is what made this world so complex. It purposely has everything go through transformations. This was my pitiful attempt to explain what I believe in. Again this is what I think and I, along with everyone in the world, can be completely wrong about what I (we) believe.
AdamK 05.12.12	@ZibelPing what makes you think any kind of deity made the world?
Blackbelt54 05.12.12	I can kinda relate to what it seems like you're going through I try to do something fun to take my mind off things, or I realize that people aren't perfect and I should stop overanalyzing things
YankeeDudel 05.12.12	Yea thats what Im saying. I believe in evolution but I also believe in the forces that just make evolution possible in the first place. So in a way its believing in science but also believing in whatever the fuck allows us to even ponder what science is. This universe is just insane and we really dont know shit.
YankeeDudel 05.12.12	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2xzIgdD_XA Pretty much this pothead rambling by Joe Rogan sums up my thoughts on reality.
Hyperion1001 05.12.12	"Again this is what I think and I, along with everyone in the world, can be completely wrong about what I (we) believe." this i think is a powerful statement for BOTH sides of the argument. i understand my philosophies very well and am comfortable with them, but i cant say for 100% sure i know that i am right, because i dont. people who cannot change or deal with their beliefs being disproven are the kind of people that breed religious hatred and war, and i honestly cant stand people who are so stuck in their ways that they will not accept change no matter how strong the evidence there is to support it, whether they are religious or not
ZilbelPing 05.12.12	"@ZibelPing what makes you think any kind of deity made the world?" Well that's just how I was raised. But the older I grow, the less things I agree with about my religion (Catholicism). Despite that, I still believe in a diety.
ZilbelPing 05.12.12	"this i think is a powerful statement for BOTH sides of the argument. i understand my philosophies very well and am comfortable with them, but i cant say for 100% sure i know that i am right, because i dont. people who cannot change or deal with their beliefs being disproven are the kind of people that breed religious hatred and war, and i honestly cant stand people who are so stuck in their ways that they will not accept change no matter how strong the evidence there is to support it, whether they are religious or not" Yeah basically how l live every day, willing to accept any opinions about anything.
hluch 05.12.12	Just read all of this discussion on spirituality. For the past year now, I've wanted to get into spiritual practices such as meditating, etc. and was wondering if chakras are good to get into. Yes or no?
paxman 05.12.12	I'm a solipsist, so no one is as depressed or lonely as me.
YankeeDudel 05.12.12	I never really got into chakras. First I would just learn basic breathing meditation though, and then go from there if you even want to go any further. You dont need to complicate things IMO. Some people can get too caught up and get stressed with the whole spiritual thing too, which totally takes away the point of it.
AdamK 05.12.12	get into the kama sutra
DocSportello 05.12.12	OK, buddy, I don't have the time to like read hundreds of comments so pardon me if I'm just playing a scratched record here, but "annoying?" The girl in my Chaucer class who sits way forward and lets her blubbery boobs sag on the table is annoying; the frozen center of a molten hot pocket is annoying; my friend's Franzia-drunk girlfriend who puts on The Magnetic Fields at a party and then vomits on the stairs is annoying. But depression, in its darkest stages, isn't annoying. I've battled depression for most of my life, and it's fucking abysmal, man, but to want to die - like, to really want to die - is serious business. Rip your face off and swallow it along with your ignorant, whiny words and tell me it feels great. Then I'll fucking believe you.
Satellite 05.12.12	listen to btmi
AdamK 05.12.12	Drsmith4 you meditate bro?
ZilbelPing 05.12.12	What satty said
DocSportello 05.12.12	A little bit. Does self-hypnosis constitute as meditation in your book?
AdamK 05.12.12	i have no idea what to classify that as but sounds interesting
BallsToTheWall 05.12.12	www.sputniksuicideprevention.com
StrangerofSorts 05.12.12	"Seriously, not once have I met a semi-intellectual woman." Umm... I don't think I even want to help you with this one. The problem here is with your attitude - stop thinking you're special/ above anyone else and accept life. Don't romanticise death either, suicide is for lonely men in their 50's; not people who haven't even experienced life yet.
hluch 05.12.12	I would love to meet a woman who isn't obsessed with looks. I don't think I'm better than anyone else. I even said I'M a hypocritical, ignorant douche bag. And yes, depression is annoying. The definition of the word "annoy" according to dictionary.com: to disturb or bother (a person) in a way that displeases, troubles, or slightly irritates. Last time I checked, depression causes displeasure and troubles and irritation. Fuckface.
StrangerofSorts 05.12.12	"I would love to meet a woman who isn't obsessed with looks." People find attractive people attractive? Oh no!... chances are you've met plenty; people can't help being human but do feel free to go fuck a morbidly obese girl if you personally don't care about looks. She'd appreciate it. "Last time I checked, depression causes displeasure and troubles and irritation." No it doesn't; it promotes apathy (I can explain to you the neurological and practical reasons if you want, but it shouldn't be necessary). Anger causes displeasure, troubles and irritation, and that anger is most likely caused by a perspective of life that jars with reality. All you need to do is relax and not take things so seriously. You're saying you don't think you're better than anyone else but you speak in the kind of snark, snappy manner as someone who thinks the people they're dealing with are impossibly stupid. So just chill, dude. dgaf like the rest of us.
Adabelle 05.12.12	'Sup 17yearold crew
hluch 05.12.12	I understand attractive people are attractive, but there's a limit. It's not just looks anyway. And yes, apathy is the word to describe it, yet depression is not pleasurable at all obviously.
Wolfhorde 05.12.12	how did this get 200 comments in one day? Anyway, Stranger has a BIG point.
anarchistfish 05.12.12	can't be bothered to read through these kinds of lists
rockandmetaljunkie 05.12.12	"if you're depressed now, wait until you get out into the real world and see that everyone around you is a piece of shit" Unfortunately, this is so true.
TheNotrap 05.12.12	"I'm almost seventeen and I really just want to die". trust me it only gets worse, be a man and get used to it.
Dolving999 05.12.12	Dude, how can you be depressed when 1 & 2 show that you have excelent music taste? lol Seriously, dude, you're 17, everyone goes through that. Only everyone has an exit of the sorts. Mine was good music, playing guitar and singing... and also meeting people with the same interests as me ( just go to an hardcore concert or sumthin, you'll earn lots of friends). If I look back now, the thing I did that helped me the most with that "depression" was joining a band. Everyone will earn some respect for you, and you feel like you're doing something with your life! Cheers!
LegendofPittman 05.12.12	To be honest, High School was the worst time of my life. Hopefully it will be the same for you.
anarchistfish 05.12.12	There's a massive difference between feeling shit and actual, proper, prolonged depression
stabbler 05.12.12	life doesn't get worse, it gets better, fuck the lot of ya
LegendofPittman 05.12.12	^ Very true Anarchist Fish. I had a minor depression phase in high school where I hated my life etc., but my mom had legit depression for 20 years. I can't even fathom that.
Aids 05.12.12	this thread would have over 200 comments suck it up, everybody is depressed. pack your life into a backpack and fuck off for a year, that's what I did. or just be a bitch and either a. kill yourself or b. make another long-winded dipshit post and end it with "/bitching"
Wolfhorde 05.12.12	"There's a massive difference between feeling shit and actual, proper, prolonged depression" Yeah, for some people "I feel depressed = depression" which is pretty dumb so "having a depression" has become pretty inflationary.
stabbler 05.12.12	actually the diagnosis of major depression just requires that you be in a depressed mood and/or experience a lack of pleasure in daily activities for at least 2 weeks.....but I digress...
Aids 05.12.12	"actually the diagnosis of major depression just requires that you be in a depressed mood and/or experience a lack of pleasure in daily activities" that's 100% false... actual depression is a chemical imbalance, not just "I don't like things I used to boo hoo I need attention" aka 90% of the population of North American males under 20.
Wolfhorde 05.12.12	Not where I come from, a qualified therapist doesn't easily make such hasty diagnoses.
Apollo 05.12.12	Aids speaking truth I ain't no teenager but my life is pretty shit right now. Can't find a decent job to save my ass and sinking deeper into debt. Wife and I may have to move in with the in-laws if this keeps up
stabbler 05.12.12	the diagnosis doesn't account for the cause of the depression, real or perceived. google the internet for 30 seconds trust me i'm the last person to placate someone who's just feeling sorry for themselves
Wolfhorde 05.12.12	The internet does not (necessarily) account for specific and actual real life situations so that's not really an argument. Furthermore it doesn't account for the professional opinion of a qualified clinicians/docs.
Aids 05.12.12	"google the internet for 30 seconds" firstly: quote of the year secondly: I'm going to go ahead and trust my psychiatrist, therapist and psychologist on what they've told me on this subject, although trusting a 30 second internet search does sound tempting....
Kellerdeck 05.12.12	I'm a teenager too man, same age. Chin up.
hluch 05.12.12	I've been diagnosed with depression and my counselor wanted me on antidepressants but my parents think they fuck you up so no antidepressants for me. The shit I've said aren't the only things that have caused my depression. The shit I've said was just on my mind at the time.
stabbler 05.12.12	never suggested management was straightforward...but the diagnostic definition is simple if not outdated the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders hasn't been update properly for 20 years i think on a side note - good luck with your therapists!
anarchistfish 05.12.12	as far as I can tell from the NHS, it has to be relatively prolonged for you to get a diagnosis
stabbler 05.12.12	NHS is British? I think DSM-IV is american
bakkermaarten007 05.12.12	"I've been diagnosed with depression and my counselor wanted me on antidepressants but my parents think they fuck you up so no antidepressants for me. The shit I've said aren't the only things that have caused my depression. The shit I've said was just on my mind at the time." I wouldn't say they fuck you up, but they change you that's for sure Read this: http://health.usnews.com/health-news/family-health/brain-and-behavior/articles/2009/12/07/antidepressants-may-change-your--personality
Wolfhorde 05.12.12	"never suggested management was straightforward...but the diagnostic definition is simple if not outdated" True, but it's way more important what the actual therapist/psychologist knows about it, and I'm inclined to say that a qualified one at least SHOULD be up to date on such things. Of course that doesn't always hold true.