most difficult piano piece of all time

s_k_8or_die · 08-11-2003, 05:22 PM

I htink the most difficult piano piece of all time is prokofiev's piano concert number 1......its crazy

Maveryck · 08-12-2003, 04:18 AM

Rachmaninov had some pretty crazy stuff. As did Prokofiev.

I'm going with Chopin's Fantasie-Impromptu (op.66). That's insane.

Adare · 08-14-2003, 12:37 PM

Chopsticks. That is hard stuff!!

playmygreyguitar · 08-16-2003, 04:35 PM

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Originally posted by Adare
Chopsticks. That is hard stuff!!

hahahahaha. kudos my friend.

ok well i'd vote one of the hardest as beethoven's sonata pathetique (in c minor). i'm thinking first movement definitely, since EVERYONE plays the 2nd movement. and anything rachmaninoff is ridiculous.

s_k_8or_die · 08-16-2003, 05:31 PM

I played Fantasie Impromptu by Chopin when I was 12 and I won a competition with it.
I also played the sonata pathetique by Beethoven...It's difficult, but not challenging....once again prokofiev is definately the hardest piece yet....I dont htink anybody has listened to it yet...It's not a very common piece.

Maveryck · 08-17-2003, 03:03 AM

Hmm... I'll try and download it. The only Prokofiev I've heard is "Montagues and Capulets" from his Romeo and Juliet Suite

Spirit1040 · 08-17-2003, 06:55 AM

a pianist friend of mine told me (I know very little piano) Rachmaninov concert n 3.

s_k_8or_die · 08-17-2003, 10:58 PM

Yeah Rachmoninoff concertos are very hard

wing_of_jupiter · 08-22-2003, 03:21 AM

I'm a seventh grade piano student, and I think rachmaninoff os stupid to even go near, unless you like that crazy minor/chromatic stuff. Chopin's "Revolution-Etude" is very hard, Etude No. 12, Opus 10 in E Minor. Of course many of Chopin's etudes are hard. If you're thinking modern stuff, go and buy Manfred Schmitt's "Blues and Boogie-Woogie" book, and if you can play it front cover to back, you the man!

08-23-2003, 05:06 PM

Joel_JJ_Ison · 08-25-2003, 08:49 AM

rachmaninovs 2nd piano concerto is pretty crazy

Glyder · 08-25-2003, 01:43 PM

Rach's 3rd is the most fun to play

Glyder

09-03-2003, 03:47 PM

I like when the saints go marching in.

moyboy · 09-04-2003, 01:12 PM

Fantasie is pretty hard, I could probably pull off either hand separatly but its pretty fu.cked up together. 6tuplets(is that what they're called?) and sixteenths...
Another piece that's pretty hard is Serpent's Kiss by William Bolcom.

Lime · 09-04-2003, 04:03 PM

I can finally play fantasie impromptu, but learned it on my old non-weighted keyboard. Now I've moved to fully weighted I'm totally knackered by the closing 8 bars, which are the most manic fingering-wise.

I don't think it touches Chopin's etudes for difficulty. In particular, the 4th of the Opus 10 set. That is absolute rock. Can anyone here play it? (I can only manage the first 4 bars, right hand only)

***joshmay*** · 09-06-2003, 11:47 AM

ive written some pretty hard stuff. not that i can play it, but its rough.

PianoDan · 09-09-2003, 07:04 AM

According to the movie Shine, Rachmaninov's 3rd Piano Concerto would be it. It definitely looks like it. I have to admit I've never heard any Prokofiev stuff, must find some. The most difficult piece I've attempted to play is Grieg's Piano Concerto in A minor. I'm not good enough for that but I can some of the easier parts sounding pretty nice. I'm also having a serious shot at Chopin's Ballade in G minor, it might be within my reach.

Fantasie Impromptu is pretty hard, I haven't learned it yet. Seperate hands aren't too impossible, even the rhythm isn't that difficult, but I'm a long way off putting the two hands together.

The hardest piece I can actually play is the 3rd movement (the presto agitato movement) of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata.

09-09-2003, 09:31 PM

all of percofiev's stuff is really hard, and then Rachmoninoff's piano concerto number 3 is very hard.

Lime · 09-11-2003, 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by PianoDan
According to the movie Shine, Rachmaninov's 3rd Piano Concerto would be it. It definitely looks like it. I have to admit I've never heard any Prokofiev stuff, must find some. The most difficult piece I've attempted to play is Grieg's Piano Concerto in A minor. I'm not good enough for that but I can some of the easier parts sounding pretty nice. I'm also having a serious shot at Chopin's Ballade in G minor, it might be within my reach.

Fantasie Impromptu is pretty hard, I haven't learned it yet. Seperate hands aren't too impossible, even the rhythm isn't that difficult, but I'm a long way off putting the two hands together.

The hardest piece I can actually play is the 3rd movement (the presto agitato movement) of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata.

You sound like you are at about my level. I can play Fantasy Impromptu, but not the Beethoven (although I'll have another shot now!). Chopin's Ballade in G Min is also one I had a go at - I got as far as bar 53 but ran out of steam. I still regularly play bars 33-51 as I love that part so much, but actually I reckon I'll complete the 3rd Ballade before the first.

Respect due for playing for the Beethoven Sonata. Well played!

Lomion · 02-09-2005, 05:29 PM

The hardest piano piece isn't going to be a solo, it will be a concerto. Things like (the order they're in designates the order of difficulty I believe to exist):
Liszt's 2nd
Prokofiev's 3rd
Rachmoninov's 3rd
Brahm's 1st
etc.

However, if you're looking at the hardest solo, it would probably be a Liszt. His b flat sonata most likely, however, some of his transcendental etudes (not to be confused with the concert etudes) are also possible candidates.

Most difficult beethoven sonats are the later ones. Appasionata even is harder than the 3rd mvmt of Sonata No. 14 (Moonlight).

Fantasie Impromptu? The only thing that's difficult there is the three against four. If you can play three against four you wont have a problem with it.

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Lomion Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2	The hardest piano piece isn't going to be a solo, it will be a concerto. Things like (the order they're in designates the order of difficulty I believe to exist): Liszt's 2nd Prokofiev's 3rd Rachmoninov's 3rd Brahm's 1st etc. However, if you're looking at the hardest solo, it would probably be a Liszt. His b flat sonata most likely, however, some of his transcendental etudes (not to be confused with the concert etudes) are also possible candidates. Most difficult beethoven sonats are the later ones. Appasionata even is harder than the 3rd mvmt of Sonata No. 14 (Moonlight). Fantasie Impromptu? The only thing that's difficult there is the three against four. If you can play three against four you wont have a problem with it. Last edited by Lomion; 02-09-2005 at 05:34 PM.

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08-12-2003, 04:18 AM	#2
Maveryck Sith happens. Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,929	Rachmaninov had some pretty crazy stuff. As did Prokofiev. I'm going with Chopin's Fantasie-Impromptu (op.66). That's insane.

08-14-2003, 12:37 PM	#3
Adare Bleed Blue Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: United States Posts: 1,169	Chopsticks. That is hard stuff!!

08-16-2003, 05:31 PM	#5
s_k_8or_die Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 20	I played Fantasie Impromptu by Chopin when I was 12 and I won a competition with it. I also played the sonata pathetique by Beethoven...It's difficult, but not challenging....once again prokofiev is definately the hardest piece yet....I dont htink anybody has listened to it yet...It's not a very common piece.

08-17-2003, 03:03 AM	#6
Maveryck Sith happens. Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,929	Hmm... I'll try and download it. The only Prokofiev I've heard is "Montagues and Capulets" from his Romeo and Juliet Suite

08-17-2003, 06:55 AM	#7
Spirit1040 rings and keys Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: under water, where thoughts can breathe easily Posts: 38	a pianist friend of mine told me (I know very little piano) Rachmaninov concert n 3.

08-17-2003, 10:58 PM	#8
s_k_8or_die Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 20	Yeah Rachmoninoff concertos are very hard

08-22-2003, 03:21 AM	#9
wing_of_jupiter Banned Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 168	I'm a seventh grade piano student, and I think rachmaninoff os stupid to even go near, unless you like that crazy minor/chromatic stuff. Chopin's "Revolution-Etude" is very hard, Etude No. 12, Opus 10 in E Minor. Of course many of Chopin's etudes are hard. If you're thinking modern stuff, go and buy Manfred Schmitt's "Blues and Boogie-Woogie" book, and if you can play it front cover to back, you the man!

08-25-2003, 08:49 AM	#11
Joel_JJ_Ison Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: london, uk Posts: 36	rachmaninovs 2nd piano concerto is pretty crazy

08-25-2003, 01:43 PM	#12
Glyder Professional Tramp Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Isle of Wight Posts: 86	Rach's 3rd is the most fun to play Glyder

09-03-2003, 03:47 PM	#13
BassGod.com Guest Posts: n/a	I like when the saints go marching in.

09-04-2003, 01:12 PM	#14
moyboy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 386	Fantasie is pretty hard, I could probably pull off either hand separatly but its pretty fu.cked up together. 6tuplets(is that what they're called?) and sixteenths... Another piece that's pretty hard is Serpent's Kiss by William Bolcom.

09-04-2003, 04:03 PM	#15
Lime Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 13	I can finally play fantasie impromptu, but learned it on my old non-weighted keyboard. Now I've moved to fully weighted I'm totally knackered by the closing 8 bars, which are the most manic fingering-wise. I don't think it touches Chopin's etudes for difficulty. In particular, the 4th of the Opus 10 set. That is absolute rock. Can anyone here play it? (I can only manage the first 4 bars, right hand only)

09-09-2003, 07:04 AM	#17
PianoDan Soli Deo Gloria Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,605	According to the movie Shine, Rachmaninov's 3rd Piano Concerto would be it. It definitely looks like it. I have to admit I've never heard any Prokofiev stuff, must find some. The most difficult piece I've attempted to play is Grieg's Piano Concerto in A minor. I'm not good enough for that but I can some of the easier parts sounding pretty nice. I'm also having a serious shot at Chopin's Ballade in G minor, it might be within my reach. Fantasie Impromptu is pretty hard, I haven't learned it yet. Seperate hands aren't too impossible, even the rhythm isn't that difficult, but I'm a long way off putting the two hands together. The hardest piece I can actually play is the 3rd movement (the presto agitato movement) of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata.

09-09-2003, 09:31 PM	#18
duderoi Guest Posts: n/a	all of percofiev's stuff is really hard, and then Rachmoninoff's piano concerto number 3 is very hard.