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Old 10-11-2013, 01:18 PM   #31
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I'm pretty sure being sober isn't a very effective defence against rape.
its a better one than not being sober

what are you even saying

there's no perfect defense so why bother at all? what?
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:19 PM   #32
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im pretty sure the girl who gets raped in a lonely spot at night wouldnt have got raped in a lonely spot at night if she didnt go to the lonely spot at night

what the fuck is imagined about that
"I'm pretty sure that girl who gets raped by her close male friend whom she trusted in her own home during the daytime wouldn't have got raped by her male friend if she hadn't had a male friend"

Same logic
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:21 PM   #33
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"I'm pretty sure that girl who gets raped by her close male friend whom she trusted in her own home during the daytime wouldn't have got raped by her male friend if she hadn't had a male friend"

Same logic
but that's true

don't hang around on your own with 'male friends' of unknown character to reduce your risk of being raped
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:21 PM   #34
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why are you inviting random dudes over to your house anyway, you damned slut
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:23 PM   #35
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its a better one than not being sober

what are you even saying

there's no perfect defense so why bother at all? what?
Exactly, there's no perfect defence, a woman can be raped by her own husband in her own home.

You have no idea who is a potential rapist so why are women supposed to be responsible for it?
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:24 PM   #36
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but that's true

don't hang around on your own with 'male friends' of unknown character to reduce your risk of being raped
Yeah and you shouldn't have lunch with anyone whom you don't know 100% because god forbid they might poison you.

If they do it's -clearly- your fault for giving them the opportunity
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Exactly, there's no perfect defence, a woman can be raped by her own husband in her own home.

You have no idea who is a potential rapist so why are women supposed to be responsible for it?
nads with your logic you have a perfectly equal chance of being raped in all situations by all men
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:25 PM   #38
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You have no idea who is a potential rapist so why are women supposed to be responsible for it?
cuz you're increasing your risk by engaging in certain behaviours

behaviours that are obviously risk increasing
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Also let's clear this up: anyone can be a rapist, however well you think you know them.
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:27 PM   #40
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nads with your logic you have a perfectly equal chance of being raped in all situations by all men
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cuz you're increasing your risk by engaging in certain behaviours

behaviours that are obviously risk increasing
Give me examples of such "risk increasing behaviours". I want statistics.
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This reads too much like pnwi...
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Give me examples of such "risk increasing behaviours". I want statistics.
back @ u tho
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:28 PM   #43
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Yeah and you shouldn't have lunch with anyone whom you don't know 100% because god forbid they might poison you.

If they do it's -clearly- your fault for giving them the opportunity
but this is orders of magnitude less likely, and you ought to be capable of assessing that

who the fuck wants to poison me? we're not even talking about the number of people who wanna kill me now, just those that want to specifically put some shit in my food. so yeah, if i suspected someone might reasonably have a motive for poisoning me, i wouldnt eat with them

but anyone sexually attracted to you has a motive for having sex with you.
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:31 PM   #44
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Also let's clear this up: anyone can be a rapist, however well you think you know them.
is this a quote from woman weekly or something

its dumb


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Give me examples of such "risk increasing behaviours". I want statistics.
being alone with some guy in your house

here are the stats

you have a 0% chance of getting raped in your house by some dude you invited over if you don't invite the dude over
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:32 PM   #45
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This reads too much like pnwi...
duuuuuuude

i dont make serious posts in pnwi

what have you done
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:33 PM   #46
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but this is orders of magnitude less likely, and you ought to be capable of assessing that

who the fuck wants to poison me? we're not even talking about the number of people who wanna kill me now, just those that want to specifically put some shit in my food. so yeah, if i suspected someone might reasonably have a motive for poisoning me, i wouldnt eat with them

but anyone sexually attracted to you has a motive for having sex with you.
We're not talking about motivation though we're talking about opportunity

Ie there is opportunity whatever you do for someone to do harm to you if they want to and there's no way of shielding yourself from it because you have no idea who is going to be a rapist and who's not.

And I repeat: show me evidence that certain behaviours are more conducive to being raped.
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We're not talking about motivation though we're talking about opportunity
whaaaaat

why are you telling me what i'm talking about
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:36 PM   #48
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i kill guy a's dog, and don't know guy b

who is more likely to punch me

EXCUSE ME, THEY BOTH HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY SO YOU CAN'T KNOW

motive is obviously important in figuring out how people are likely to behave
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i dont care any more, i dont wanna post in pnwi

and i dont like having to make completely unrelated analogies just so you people can understand the most simple of concepts
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is this a quote from woman weekly or something

its dumb




being alone with some guy in your house

here are the stats

you have a 0% chance of getting raped in your house by some dude you invited over if you don't invite the dude over
Give me evidence that of real rapes which occur, certain features are more prominent than others.
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:41 PM   #51
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Give me evidence that of real rapes which occur, certain features are more prominent than others.
im not gonna start linking you to studies cuz i refuse to be pnwi about it

but something like 80% of rape victims are under 30

why is that
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or to keep you on track, maybe its better to just say a disproportionately large number of victims are between 18 and 30 years old
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in case its not clear, im saying that its probably because sexual attractiveness and general accessibility play a role in how likely you are to be raped

and so increasing those things makes it more likely that you'll be raped

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Old 10-11-2013, 01:55 PM   #54
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Give me more stats

How do the majority of rape victims dress?
Whom are they raped by?
Where are they when they are raped?
How well have they known the perpetrator?

I guess by your logic rape incidents must be lower in countries where men and women are more segregated, and where women are required to wear the burkha right?
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no and stop using the phrase 'by your logic'
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:58 PM   #56
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though obviously rape is some kind of function of victim/perpetrator exposure by the very nature of the act
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all other things being equal, are you more or less at risk of sexual assault if you are blind drunk?
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:00 PM   #58
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all other things being equal, are you more or less at risk of sexual assault if you are blind drunk?
more at risk of any kind of crime that is helped along by you being defenceless
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I don't think that's what the question was

He was asking if you're more likely to be attacked in the first place
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therefore, being less drunk implies you are less at risk.

all other things being equal.
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