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Old 11-07-2013, 08:50 AM   #1
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China

Thoughts, feelings, opinions.

I recently read an article and watched a Doc on current China. I remember being in Kindergarten talking about Libya, Russia, China with teachers. Not indepth of course but at least bringing these issues to the attention of the kids. Believe it or not (if you werent a child back then) Cold War stuff was still pretty active.

After the "Cold War" "Ended" most communist countries moved forward. But then there is China. For a minute in the late 90's early 00's it seemed they were finally moving ahead. It seems these days thats not the case.

They create every product known to man. US businesses have sold out and outsourced their business to China. The US economy is in the pits due partly to unfair business practices with China and there seems to be no end in sight. Politicians seem to not really care about the downfall of our country, and the weaker we get, the stronger China gets. Companies that produce parts for our Military have all but abandoned the US. What do we do if the time comes to seriously protect our country and we don't have the pieces for war? Our military is currently spread through the Middle East.

Basically China is a big cheater when it comes to "Fair Trade". They employ slave labor tactics, and they do not live up to the standards of a safe work environment, or the environment PERIOD. Their economy and Military is "booming". Will WWIV commence with red China?


What can be done? What should we do with "The Peoples Republic".
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Old 11-07-2013, 09:32 AM   #2
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fuck i must have missed ww3
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:04 AM   #3
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its been going on for the last 20 yrs.
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:33 AM   #4
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if china attacks, it is guaranteed that North Korea will also attack. Israel is busy fucking up the middle east, I doubt most countries in Europe would help us out. don't know if South Korea will help us out, they would get steamrolled by china and NK. Yeah we are fucked if we fight China.
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:34 AM   #5
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i believe this.

its like watching the slow death of N America.
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:40 AM   #6
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On one hand, if China does some embargo on US outsourcing, shit there are plenty of other 3rd world countries who would happily(dreadfully) work slave labors for us. Also China is actually trying to improve their relationship with Africa also, like big time, they are sending millions of families over there over the next few years.
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:40 AM   #7
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if china attacks, it is guaranteed that North Korea will also attack. Israel is busy fucking up the middle east, I doubt most countries in Europe would help us out. don't know if South Korea will help us out, they would get steamrolled by china and NK. Yeah we are fucked if we fight China.
Man you have vast knowledge of whose on what end of the fucking.
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:41 AM   #8
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Man you have vast knowledge of whose on what end of the fucking.
yeah man, the government should spy on these forums, we got all the answers apparently.
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:03 PM   #9
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Can you believe it? We have the premier minds in philosophy, economics, politics, mathematics and art all in one place. Shit I just read a post the other day that hit on macroeconomics and neuroscience all in one fell swoop. How the fuck...
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Old 11-07-2013, 01:59 PM   #10
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the war is going on in the rest of the world. american interests are governed by corporate greed and shareholder value. china's government don't care about these things. nigeria's oil is chinese. wouldn't be surprised if libya was going that way before the arab spring. they are buying up africa too. they are net food importers. they are eating us out of house and home. it really depends on whether china will be more generous than america in terms of what they offer as a world power.
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:18 PM   #11
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the war is going on in the rest of the world. american interests are governed by corporate greed and shareholder value. china's government don't care about these things. nigeria's oil is chinese. wouldn't be surprised if libya was going that way before the arab spring. they are buying up africa too. they are net food importers. they are eating us out of house and home. it really depends on whether china will be more generous than america in terms of what they offer as a world power.
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:47 PM   #12
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china's government don't care about these things
if there's one thing the chinese government isn't, it's greedy.
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:04 PM   #13
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not in a corporate sense anyway
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:07 PM   #14
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i'm not sure there's any real difference between being greedy in a corporate sense and being corrupt as fuck and abusing the position of the communist party to line one's own nest.

except that the latter is even less controlled than the former.
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are the chinese big investors in new zealand? or is that just in oz?
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:39 PM   #16
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somewhat but nowhere near as much as australia, us, britain, germany and a few others. there's a lot of pretty nasty racebaiting in the media re chinese investment, though. it's the same in oz.

edit: if you take china and hong kong as a unit, their total foreign investment in nz comes to $5,000 000,000. australia's is $102,409,000,000. the uk is 49,662,000,000. the us is 44,039,000,000. The ratios are about the same in australia.

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Old 11-07-2013, 03:53 PM   #17
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where did you get those figures? why about african countries? not the same value but proportionately where do they sit?

and when i was in nz i met a few locals, not many but they were vocal, that basically you can't turn a corner without bumping into chinese folk? is that true?
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:56 PM   #18
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statistics new zealand and the aussie buerau of stats.

i don't know what chinese investment in africa is.

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and when i was in nz i met a few locals, not many but they were vocal, that basically you can't turn a corner without bumping into chinese folk? is that true?
in auckland and wellington, maybe. who cares.
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says the master of irrelevancy
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read it again and let me know
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:39 PM   #22
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you asked me if there were lots of chinese people in new zealand. i said yes in some places, but as i'm not a racist fuck who cares.

so where's the irrelevancy?
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why about african countries?
Chinese involvement in Africa?

Because Africans been too busy killing each other than to take advantage of the shitload of resources that is available there and going to be relevant in the future.
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Old 11-07-2013, 05:32 PM   #24
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there's this chinese restaurant a few hundred metres away from the chinese embassy that always has tons of black sedans sitting outside of it

i really want to go
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there's this chinese restaurant a few hundred metres away from the chinese embassy that always has tons of black sedans sitting outside of it

i really want to go
Yelling "ai-yi-yi-yi-yi" with a rather bulky vest on?
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you asked me if there were lots of chinese people in new zealand. i said yes in some places, but as i'm not a racist fuck who cares.

so where's the irrelevancy?
irrelevant
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:21 AM   #27
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if you say so.

ps the people you were talking to were almost certainly racist fucks.
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well of course they are. its in their blood. they colonised someone else's land and destroyed an entire civilisation.
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god you're dumb.
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facts are not irrelevant smokey
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