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Old 07-08-2013, 12:29 PM   #61
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Just checkin in to say that the forums as they currently are cannot and will not become a 'place to be' for music fans, because the site itself isn't and it's run by a guy who doesn't particularly want it to be.

I spent my first five or so years here exclusively posting in the music forums about music, and there was a very clear change to the things the community talked about after the death of mxtabs. the instrument forums began to focus largely on gear and elementary pedagogical inquiries and were also used as an advertising space by small, nascent groups, as the established community dispersed to other sites. I can't speak as a veteran of the forums focussing on the consumption of music cause i didn't largely care about them, but they were the least affected by the change and I don't think blockhead's point about their being 'ruined' by the GD community really holds water - GD posters only really ever strayed to community threads elsewhere, not throughout the other forums in general. Perhaps those community threads within specific forums were seen as strongholds of pertinent thought or something but I can't see why people like myself ruined them (and to be honest I don't think I'm a good example of someone who isn't interested in music - it's how I make my living)

The review site has its own discussion functionality and I suggest that this should be nurtured enough to effectively absorb the 'community' section, which is presumably part of J-dogg's plans. However, the forums as a whole will never be what they were (which wouldn't be particularly desirable anyway) without stronger content on the main site, focussed as it once was on a constructive approach to the subject rather than a poorly-regulated critical one. Perhaps it could be made into a social bookmarking sort of thing for music lessons and so on; a place where I, as a teacher, could post youtube vids or whatever - but that's not going to happen. As far as keeping it about music news and criticism, I can't really comment because I hate most music criticism and those sites pretty much always have terrible communities without a specific focus or some sort of hipster cachet.

and Blockhead, just because you don't like people doesn't mean they've 'ruined the forums'. You can't blame people for posting miscellaneous things in the 'misc' section, it's just silly.
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Old 07-08-2013, 12:33 PM   #62
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Old 07-08-2013, 12:50 PM   #63
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The review site is where you can really get people and become known/better known as the place to go to read reviews on new releases without being that asscrack that reads, believes, and quotes Pitchfork. Add more ties to the review site and slowly phase out the forums (since it looks like they're getting more and more consolidated every year anyways) and add more vBulletin functionality to the review site.
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Old 07-08-2013, 02:33 PM   #64
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like ones where you can recognise the image
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Old 07-08-2013, 05:30 PM   #65
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It surprises me any user can be surprised by whatever changes are made and not made here. The forums are not a priority and never have been, really. We post here and that's about it. A post is a post.

Reviews site users here? Maybe. I try to promote the forums when I use the reviews site but meh.

And jeremy can you click a button over there and have my emeritus status reinstated? Are they done away with? I think some didn't like my news which is appropriate if off hand, but why do my occasional contributions need to be approved now.? I have been a solid contributor but who knows? Just want to be able to contribute freely again. Not like I spam up the place. Don't like my news articles, don't read 'em

If not that's fine. But that's the only change which concerns me

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Old 07-08-2013, 06:13 PM   #66
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mx you're scaring me bro, it seems like it's coming to an end - I hope that one day you can go back to hosting communal tabs written F.U.B.U like that brand of clothing no one wears these days.
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Old 07-08-2013, 07:40 PM   #67
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i don't know if thats what happened, btw. about the emeritus thing? just happened after some complained about some fairly tongue in cheek news stories i wrote. legit stories, however. and music related

anyway no big deal if nothing done about it or can't be done. just would be nice so i can post unrestrained again

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Old 07-08-2013, 08:25 PM   #68
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i'd love bigger avatars

like ones where you can recognise the image
we have 250x250 avatars, idk why anyone would be a jew about that the ones here are tiny
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Old 07-09-2013, 02:18 AM   #69
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sure, but you also have a shed load of smelly stinking hairy girlie hippies bahaahahahaahaahahahahahahahahahahaha.......lol
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Old 07-09-2013, 03:06 AM   #70
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sam who do you hate in here specifically?
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Old 07-09-2013, 03:18 AM   #71
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sam who do you hate in here specifically?
ando
sweboy
fingers
hsg
sanders
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all the people from the review site

pretty much everyone here other than you and chad are okay, against all authority is all right too

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Old 07-09-2013, 04:02 AM   #72
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:08 AM   #73
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:20 AM   #74
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remember that time blockhead insisted we were obsessed w/ his forum

seems to me there's a solid list of 25 posts suggesting it's kinda the other way around
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:25 AM   #75
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i'm giving my honest opinion to jeremy about my experience with this site the past 11 years

should have known that the pit cock sucking legion would show up soon enough though
oh my god

what a little girl

you are so weird
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Old 07-09-2013, 02:27 PM   #76
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le ad hominem face xDDD
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Old 07-09-2013, 03:07 PM   #77
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"ad hominem"

"i don't really care what you think because like i've said before you and your whole little crew are nothing but trash who like to suck each other off"

highly developed sense of self-awareness in this one
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Old 07-09-2013, 04:25 PM   #78
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lol at your cherry picking i made an entire argument where hsg just threw out his little ad hominem
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Old 07-09-2013, 04:31 PM   #79
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your "argument" is essentially that one "insular" group ruined a second insular group's good time, and also that the first group is a "circle jerk"or something

i'm sorry blockster, but im not buying the "i had an entire argument" trope
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Old 07-09-2013, 04:39 PM   #80
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that isn't a trope retard

and nice strawman btw
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Old 07-09-2013, 04:45 PM   #81
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in what way did i mischaracterize your "entire argument"

please be as clear as you can, what with my being a retard and all
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Old 07-09-2013, 04:59 PM   #82
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i have no time to waste on deficient refuse, peasant
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:07 PM   #83
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well that's frankly not believable

in fact im willing to believe you have plenty of time

blockhead why wont you play with me
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:47 PM   #84
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why do you even engage?
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:12 PM   #85
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smokey d smoking the d
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Old 07-10-2013, 02:22 AM   #86
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why do you even engage?
thats more participator than moderator there smokey d. you need to step back and keep convos on track and not derail them
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Old 07-10-2013, 03:59 AM   #87
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maybe this whole idea of people searching for content and being satisfied by reading age old posts instead of live interaction with people who have the answers

i know i posted questions in certain forums and was linked to an age old discussion and whilst this provided some answers i think i would have gotten a lot more if a conversation had started.

so maybe the current community needs to be a lot more open to noobs and be willing to embrace the questions and add a little more value than a link to an archive

so in effect that rationalisation of the boards is almost like a control, alt and delete but the objective has to be to allow it to develop along the lines of what was here previously

new, clean, well supported boards will bring new and experienced posters. just gotta make sure they know mx exists
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:07 AM   #88
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I agree with the whole being open to noobs thing

I weathered that initial storm of suspicion and abuse, but not having that storm in the first place is what would make this place more popular, even if it's the trickiest part
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blockhead gave me so much shit when i started. though i was a 13 year old girl and more of a whiner than i am now if you can believe that.

aaa has a good point with the whole quoting links instead of discussing scenario. people would always rather a discussion happening in real time.
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Old 07-10-2013, 05:50 AM   #90
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the noob thing is something we should collectively try to work on, but its also kind of inherent to the medium

like, i dont think anyone was aggressively unwelcoming to that influx of hc guys immediately after they started posting.
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