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Old 07-10-2013, 02:28 PM   #121
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99% of people who say that to me regret it....
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Old 07-10-2013, 02:49 PM   #122
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:00 PM   #123
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if you wanna get to understand the analytic baseball community it's worth giving Moneyball a read

if you're interested in actual analysis, though, fangraphs.com is a really solid website for that
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winner thanks ando.

i have seen the film of moneyball, is the book more substantial?
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:19 PM   #125
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The first third or so of the book details early statistical cataloging/Bill James stuff. It's pretty dry, but the Beane/A's part of the book which is the next two thirds is really good. Def. worth reading.

I haven't seen the film so I can't comment on how they compare.
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:36 PM   #126
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sweet thanks it's on my amazon wishlist.
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Old 07-10-2013, 07:43 PM   #127
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99% of people who say that to me regret it....
oh yeah tell me what you're gonna do about it (;

Cleveland fans cheering "we want healthcare" vs the Blue Jays right now hahaha
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Old 07-10-2013, 07:51 PM   #128
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:17 AM   #129
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Old 07-11-2013, 08:16 AM   #130
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thanks obama
if dem repubs didnt shut shi down youd have healthcare ftr

but to keep things on track watch this interview of kawasaki after hitting a 3 rbi double top of the 9th to break a tie and win the game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIWRJnW0Yho

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Old 07-11-2013, 03:33 PM   #131
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winner thanks ando.

i have seen the film of moneyball, is the book more substantial?
missed this post, but yeah, basically what Zmev said. the book explains the inefficiencies that the A's were exploiting in player evaluation in much greater detail.

there's a lot in the book that doesn't pop up in the movie, also (the amateur draft takes a front seat, where in the movie they mention jeremy brown like once and nick swisher never).

it also bears noting that what gets referred to as a "classic moneyball team" doesn't bear much semblence to what smart small market teams look like today. a lot has changed in the 10 or so years since the A's were bucking the system in the early 2000's
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Old 07-11-2013, 03:34 PM   #132
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but to keep things on track watch this interview of kawasaki after hitting a 3 rbi double top of the 9th to break a tie and win the game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIWRJnW0Yho

c u tmrw
oh my god its like a baseball version of an evgeni malkin interview

i fuggin love this
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Old 07-11-2013, 04:05 PM   #133
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Old 07-11-2013, 05:50 PM   #134
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hmm, well to start:

mostly nothing happens

but its the most enthralling thing in the world
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Old 07-12-2013, 03:20 AM   #135
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yeah i watched giants vs rockies yesterday and there was no score for 4 frames and i still couldn't take my eyes off it.
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Old 07-12-2013, 06:40 AM   #136
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innings is the jargon (not frames), but yeah low scoring games rock if the pitchers are throwing well
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Old 07-12-2013, 06:47 AM   #137
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watching great pitchers work is my favorite aspect of the game

wish toronto would finally get one

we have good depth now tho

dickey was supposed to be the guy and some call him an ace but i dunno he's solid tho

knuckleballers are entertaining at least
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Old 07-12-2013, 08:57 AM   #138
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dude they said frames the other day!!!!!!!!
and i am gonna call it that anway. they said innings and frames.
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:03 AM   #139
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yeah i spose "perfect through 3 frames" is something they say sometimes

i thought maybe you were misapplying rounders words or something tho
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:04 AM   #140
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ahh no. they call it innings in rounders. but they only change when everyone is out.
they call it frames in snooker.
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:05 AM   #141
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Old 07-13-2013, 11:05 PM   #142
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Old 07-14-2013, 07:26 AM   #144
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doc ellis' still had the better of the two drug induced no hitters

edit: reminder of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vUhSYLRw14

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Old 07-22-2013, 08:58 PM   #145
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question - can both wild card teams be from the same division? ex - the o's and rays are the top two non-division leaders in the AL
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Old 07-23-2013, 06:46 AM   #146
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edit: reminder of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vUhSYLRw14
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Old 07-23-2013, 01:12 PM   #147
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Perhaps Ellis’ most startling act occurred on May 1, 1974, when he tied a major league record by hitting three batters in a row. In spring training that year, Ellis sensed the Pirates had lost the aggressiveness that drove them to three straight division titles from 1970 to 1972. Furthermore, the team now seemed intimidated by Cincinnati’s "Big Red Machine." "Cincinnati will bullshit with us and kick our ass and laugh at us," Ellis said. "They’re the only team that talk about us like a dog." Ellis single-handedly decided to break the Pirates out of their emotional slump, announcing that "We gonna get down. We gonna do the do. I’m going to hit these motherfuckers." True to his word, in the first inning of the first regular-season game he pitched against the Reds, Ellis hit leadoff batter Pete Rose in the ribs, then plunked Joe Morgan in the kidney, and loaded the bases by hitting Dan Driessen in the back. Tony Perez, batting cleanup, dodged a succession of Ellis’ pitches to walk and force in a run. The next hitter was Johnny Bench. "I tried to deck him twice," Ellis recalled. "I threw at his jaw, and he moved. I threw at the back of his head, and he moved." At this point, Pittsburgh manager Danny Murtaugh removed Ellis from the game. But his strategy worked: the Pirates snapped out of their lethargy to win a division title in 1974, while the Reds failed to win their division for the first time in three years.
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Old 07-23-2013, 01:13 PM   #148
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question - can both wild card teams be from the same division? ex - the o's and rays are the top two non-division leaders in the AL
yes

might work out that way in the NL this year too, what with the central being so strong

who saw that shit coming
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"We gonna get down. We gonna do the do. I’m going to hit these motherfuckers."

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Old 07-24-2013, 12:25 AM   #150
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