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Old 01-25-2013, 02:27 AM   #61
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljcl8-rIKXs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I bet they can't even open a jar of pickles without a man's help
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Old 01-25-2013, 02:29 AM   #62
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no joke. dont u see how they can only lift about 100 pounds on incline bench press? in the beginning of the video
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Old 01-25-2013, 02:30 AM   #63
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that video actually did a lot to reconfirm my belief, even body builder women aren't strong enough to be in the army
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Old 01-25-2013, 02:50 AM   #64
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The harder you try the less I feel like even including you in the conversation anymore.
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Old 01-25-2013, 02:55 AM   #65
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I mean, I could cite female soldiers, generals, and wildly successful female armies all night but this alpha act of yours just makes it pointless to even try to discuss this legitimately.
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Old 01-25-2013, 02:58 AM   #66
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I don't know why he is saying all that stuff when it is already proven women can fight in tough conditions alongside men but whatever.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:08 AM   #67
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without suggesting it's an appropriate model for the modern military, it's pretty certain that the sacred band of thebes promoted homosexuality. so did sparta, to a degree nearly unprecedented in the other greek states.
I never said they didn't.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:11 AM   #68
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljcl8-rIKXs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I bet they can't even open a jar of pickles without a man's help
yeah because this is the average kind of woman that signs up for the military



what a silly thing to post jared


Now, I will never deny that women cannot lead men or even fight. However, they are extremely rare and mass integration of women into front line infantry roles will not be good.




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I mean, I could cite female soldiers, generals, and wildly successful female armies all night but this alpha act of yours just makes it pointless to even try to discuss this legitimately.
I mean, you could (even though they would be arguable)



or you can realize that 99.99999% of all warfare was fought by men since the dawn of time for real reasons. Men are stronger, faster and more war-like.



If I want to haul lots of wood, I'll get a pickup truck, not a hyundai elantra.

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Old 01-25-2013, 10:20 AM   #69
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men are more aggressive

that's really the main reason

which possibly makes them less fit for war
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:31 AM   #70
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@Ron

I suppose you could try to argue examples like the Trung Sisters who led an army composed primarily of women and spent three years reclaiming Vietnam from the Chinese, but you'd be an idiot to try.
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:09 PM   #71
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men are more aggressive

that's really the main reason

which possibly makes them less fit for war
depends on how that aggression is harnessed
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:10 PM   #72
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I think as long as they are held to the same standards it shouldn't be a problem. I think having a more lenient set of standards for women specifically or lowering the standards across the board is a huge mistake.
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:11 PM   #73
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I suppose you could try to argue examples like the Trung Sisters who led an army composed primarily of women and spent three years reclaiming Vietnam from the Chinese, but you'd be an idiot to try.
well despite conflicting accounts of what really happened historically and how they were utterly crushed yeah I never said women couldn't lead or fight in some situations
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has it occurred to you that what the Pentagon calls "enhanced human performance" can be applied to women as well?

to the extent that women are unfit for the infantry, this can be compensated for by cyborgifying them

hell even the men can't hump all the shit they have to carry in the thin mountain airs of Afghanistan, which is why exoskeletons and robomules capable of navigating difficult terrain are under such active development
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:11 PM   #75
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women aren't sufficiently energetic or bloodthirsty?

there's a cure for this that was widely used (albeit on men) in WWII

it's called "d-methamphetamine"
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:33 PM   #76
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borging all soldiers is not cost effective




also it may not even be legal in the future who knows





either way it would probably be better if we created an entire caste of genetically modified super soldiers who do nothing but train from day one. It isn't a crazy idea anymore.

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Old 01-25-2013, 05:39 PM   #77
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borging all soldiers is not cost effective
the idea behind this technology is to reduce the number of personnel fielded and save money in effect

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also it may not even be legal in the future who knows
if national interests are at stake it may become inevitable
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:42 PM   #78
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Seriously guys.

The military will determine if you are suitable to be on the frontlines if you are suitable, you going going, if you aren't, well you are not going to the frontlines.

Why is it so hard for people to get that??

What we should be arguing is whether they are going to lower the standards or have different tests based on sex to determine if you are suitable. And the military hasn't stated nothing along those lines yet.

I mean cmon Ron

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bAWoaFmYss
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:42 PM   #79
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see my edit @ chris
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:50 PM   #80
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I mean cmon Ron

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bAWoaFmYss
congratulations you found a statistical outlier



and we don't know if that guy was drunk/high or a combination of both

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Old 01-25-2013, 06:07 PM   #81
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it was a joke video.
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:10 PM   #82
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I mean, I could cite female soldiers, generals, and wildly successful female armies all night but this alpha act of yours just makes it pointless to even try to discuss this legitimately.
You seriously think the number of successful female soldiers, armies, generals etc. doesn't pale in comparison to men, today? throughout history? can you name a year in the history of the universe when there were more female soldiers than men?

You being able to cite rare cases/ narrow factoids doesn't amount to anything. You can see in everyday life and history women aren't meant for battle if you aren't walking around with your eyes closed to suck on feminist titty.
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:13 PM   #83
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Seriously guys.

The military will determine if you are suitable to be on the frontlines if you are suitable, you going going, if you aren't, well you are not going to the frontlines.

Why is it so hard for people to get that??

What we should be arguing is whether they are going to lower the standards or have different tests based on sex to determine if you are suitable. And the military hasn't stated nothing along those lines yet.
you clearly dont understand how the military currently operates, it is all political bullshit ordered by the President, it doesn't matter if gay people are going to upset the troops the President gets whatever he wants to look good and people die because of this kind of absurd crap.
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:35 PM   #84
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you clearly dont understand how the military currently operates
Oh, I'm sorry, I clearly know nothing and you know it all.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:03 PM   #85
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Boy oh boy! I can't wait for those 5'5'' 130-ish lb women serving on the front in the future!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW9Q1cm_Tnw





http://i.imgur.com/etZXr41.jpg


Not that Army physical fitness standards are high. They're a joke to begin with. However, how do you think she will perform with 80-100lbs of gear on her in 120 degree heat? Hope she has two strong buddies to carry her out of the battlespace. Most men are even having trouble with all the weight they have to haul around.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc5O6Y-Yeyw

Good luck.

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Old 01-25-2013, 10:14 PM   #86
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you clearly dont understand how the military currently operates, it is all political bullshit ordered by the President, it doesn't matter if gay people are going to upset the troops the President gets whatever he wants to look good and people die because of this kind of absurd crap.
if you get upset by gay people then you prob deserve it
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:30 PM   #87
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Who is that gimmick? I thought it was you at first, Nate, but those posts are definitely below your level of trolling and inflammatory bs.
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I've had lots of alts but never a gimmick one

whenever I troll it's just as little ol' me~
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lil ol trolly McTrollernate
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Boy oh boy! I can't wait for those 5'5'' 130-ish lb women serving on the front in the future!
porter women in India carry as much on their backs iirc
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